From dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 15:45:39 2020 From: dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com (Diana1) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:45:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] ABA Convention, Disability Rights Meeting In-Reply-To: <131401d66773$b3cd3b40$1b67b1c0$@gmail.com> References: <003101d66772$b97036c0$2c50a440$@nyc.rr.com>, <131401d66773$b3cd3b40$1b67b1c0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7524467B-7DA4-4FEC-965A-FA3819BDA4FE@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sun Aug 2 15:52:22 2020 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:52:22 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, I worked at DOD office of the general counsel, international affairs division my 1L summer. I was welcomed with open arms and had an awesome experience. But, and despite my bosses wanted it to be possible, I was not able to do JAG. But there are plenty of opportunities to otherwise be a lawyer in the national security space. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > > FYI If you are interested in serving with the JAG Corps, they do have civilian attorneys who augment the uniform component of the organization. Also, a myriad of defense department agencies have their own legal staff that handle mission-specific matters like contracting or compliance. > While I believe diversity and representation dramatically strengthen organizations that make them core values, I think it is important to note that essential job functions of a commissioned officer in the armed forces, even those who are not line officers, involve tasks that would be difficult to accommodate. As to the likelihood of serving in deployed units, JAGs are expected to deploy just like everyone else. I have a friend who is a USAF JAG. As part of a previous assignment, she was responsible for ensuring that work was being done in accordance with contract requirements. This involved visiting remote locations in Afghanistan, accessible only via helicopter. There was a great deal of humor had when the DoD formally announced women could serve in combat: they’d been serving in combat, just not in combat positions. In a world of asymmetric warfare and green on blue incidents, I don’t think downplaying the risks to personnel is a good idea. Opening up the combat arms has sparked some serious debates about what is and is not essential about qualification standards. It’s an ongoing dialogue, but I think practically speaking, there are reasons to temper expectations here. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 27, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Badillo via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> That’s true, but first, they never actually gave them the chance to see if >> they could. Second, how many army lawyers actually serve in combat? How >> many army lawyers have in the past served in combat? Also, in the future, >> are they really going to put army lawyers in combat? Third, these days with >> all of the push for equality, the one thing that people need to realize is >> that equality is not there when it suits a person and eliminated when it >> doesn’t. Equality is a quality for everyone whether or not someone agrees >> with it. I think that as I said, there’s a whole opportunity that both the >> prospective lawyer and the military misses out on. >> >>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:40 AM Cody Davis wrote: >>> >>> I considered this career path when I was in law school. I reached out to a >>> recruiter explaining my situation and could not get a response. From what I >>> have read online, even though you’re not in a combat position, all officers >>> must be able to serve in a combat position if needed. >>> >>> I would have love to serve as a JAG officer if it were possible. Maybe >>> permit it is a better word to use than possible. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Cody >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:28 AM, ---------- via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this but I have a >>> question slash comment that in a way pertains to attorneys. Over the past >>> few years and months, many changes have taken place that forced society to >>> re-examine its beliefs and actions regarding diversity and inclusion. I >>> believe the blind must also be equally included. While not all blind >>> attorneys choose to take this path, some may wish, like there sighted >>> colleagues, to join the jag core. or in other words, become an army >>> lawyer. While I'm not trying to glamorize this position, it may carry with >>> it a range of benefits. The vast majority of what army lawyers do is >>> lawyering like any other attorney. Since a lot of positions in the military >>> are non combat positions, and the vast majority of army lawyers complete >>> there 20 years of duty without major incidents, in this modern age of the >>> year 2020, it shouldn't be unreasonable what with both accommodations and >>> inclusion to expect and accept that many blind lawyers are just as capable >>> of being army lawyers rather then civilian if they choose to. I I >>> commented on this in this list because this concerns attorneys which is >>> the topic of this list. All legal careers should be open to those who are >>> blind or visually impaired. I have read that there is at least 1 in Israel. >>> Finally, there is a wealth of attorneys who's knowledge and skill is being >>> unused and who if they even wish to become this kind of attorney are being >>> kept out. ∫ are simply my thoughts. The views are my own and do not reflect >>> those of others. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From gerard.sadlier at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 15:56:26 2020 From: gerard.sadlier at gmail.com (Gerard Sadlier) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 16:56:26 +0100 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What were the issues Derek? -- null From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sun Aug 2 16:03:14 2020 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 11:03:14 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Meaning why I was not able to do JAG? For the reasons that were explained on the list earlier. Officers in the active military have to be able to serve in a combat role if needed, even if they are in a non-combat position. I thought it was dumb and discriminatory before I got there, but I agree with the policy now. Being in the military comes with a lifetime of benefits, and JAGs, for example, do go to combat zones even if they aren’t in active combat positions. I’m sure I could survive in an army base in Iraq for example, but I get why the military would be hesitant to have a blind lawyer serve in that role. JAGs aren’t just desk jockeys in DC, they are often adjacent to the battlefield, and our enemies abroad won’t give us reasonable accommodations to do our job. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw wrote: > > What were the issues Derek? > -- > null > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu From blindstein at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 17:26:43 2020 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 10:26:43 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys Message-ID: <93C8DEF5-1CEC-4B68-A69F-DECACE1F98DA@gmail.com> I was under the impression that in World War II, the military had women serving in noncombat positions, and the assumption at the time was that women would never go into combat. How is it that now an attorney might end up having to pick up an AR 15 and go to fight? How is it that there is no space for noncombatants anymore in the military? And the other question that comes to mind is why can’t blind people be allowed to assume those kinds of risks like their colleagues. Regards > On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Derek Manners via BlindLaw wrote: > From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu Sun Aug 2 18:54:43 2020 From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:54:43 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <93C8DEF5-1CEC-4B68-A69F-DECACE1F98DA@gmail.com> References: <93C8DEF5-1CEC-4B68-A69F-DECACE1F98DA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A7F6D29-768D-43E9-8FF0-D52D04AFBDED@jd16.law.harvard.edu> I’m not speaking for all non-combat roles, but JAGs do carry guns when oversees from time to time and some of the ones I’ve met served in active war zones. I believe the military can and should be integrated, to a degree, but JAGs are a special case in my opinion after having worked alongside side them at DOD. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Justin Harford wrote: > > I was under the impression that in World War II, the military had women serving in noncombat positions, and the assumption at the time was that women would never go into combat. How is it that now an attorney might end up having to pick up an AR 15 and go to fight? How is it that there is no space for noncombatants anymore in the military? > > And the other question that comes to mind is why can’t blind people be allowed to assume those kinds of risks like their colleagues. > > Regards > >> On Aug 2, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Derek Manners via BlindLaw wrote: >> From tim at timeldermusic.com Mon Aug 3 20:54:17 2020 From: tim at timeldermusic.com (tim at timeldermusic.com) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:54:17 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <021501d669d8$40cf7b00$c26e7100$@timeldermusic.com> I am for a partial integration tailored to other factors. It seems like environments in which civilian contractors are permitted should also be opened for other classes of enlisted people. We have varying degrees of national security clearance. Perhaps degrees of enlistment are appropriate. -----Original Message----- From: Derek Manners Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:52 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys Hi all, I worked at DOD office of the general counsel, international affairs division my 1L summer. I was welcomed with open arms and had an awesome experience. But, and despite my bosses wanted it to be possible, I was not able to do JAG. But there are plenty of opportunities to otherwise be a lawyer in the national security space. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > > FYI If you are interested in serving with the JAG Corps, they do have civilian attorneys who augment the uniform component of the organization. Also, a myriad of defense department agencies have their own legal staff that handle mission-specific matters like contracting or compliance. > While I believe diversity and representation dramatically strengthen organizations that make them core values, I think it is important to note that essential job functions of a commissioned officer in the armed forces, even those who are not line officers, involve tasks that would be difficult to accommodate. As to the likelihood of serving in deployed units, JAGs are expected to deploy just like everyone else. I have a friend who is a USAF JAG. As part of a previous assignment, she was responsible for ensuring that work was being done in accordance with contract requirements. This involved visiting remote locations in Afghanistan, accessible only via helicopter. There was a great deal of humor had when the DoD formally announced women could serve in combat: they’d been serving in combat, just not in combat positions. In a world of asymmetric warfare and green on blue incidents, I don’t think downplaying the risks to personnel is a good idea. Opening up the combat arms has sparked some serious debates about what is and is not essential about qualification standards. It’s an ongoing dialogue, but I think practically speaking, there are reasons to temper expectations here. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 27, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Badillo via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> That’s true, but first, they never actually gave them the chance to >> see if they could. Second, how many army lawyers actually serve in >> combat? How many army lawyers have in the past served in combat? >> Also, in the future, are they really going to put army lawyers in >> combat? Third, these days with all of the push for equality, the one >> thing that people need to realize is that equality is not there when >> it suits a person and eliminated when it doesn’t. Equality is a >> quality for everyone whether or not someone agrees with it. I think >> that as I said, there’s a whole opportunity that both the prospective lawyer and the military misses out on. >> >>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:40 AM Cody Davis wrote: >>> >>> I considered this career path when I was in law school. I reached >>> out to a recruiter explaining my situation and could not get a >>> response. From what I have read online, even though you’re not in a >>> combat position, all officers must be able to serve in a combat position if needed. >>> >>> I would have love to serve as a JAG officer if it were possible. >>> Maybe permit it is a better word to use than possible. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Cody >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:28 AM, ---------- via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this but I >>>> have a >>> question slash comment that in a way pertains to attorneys. Over >>> the past few years and months, many changes have taken place that >>> forced society to re-examine its beliefs and actions regarding >>> diversity and inclusion. I believe the blind must also be equally >>> included. While not all blind attorneys choose to take this path, >>> some may wish, like there sighted colleagues, to join the jag core. >>> or in other words, become an army lawyer. While I'm not trying to >>> glamorize this position, it may carry with it a range of benefits. >>> The vast majority of what army lawyers do is lawyering like any >>> other attorney. Since a lot of positions in the military are non >>> combat positions, and the vast majority of army lawyers complete >>> there 20 years of duty without major incidents, in this modern age >>> of the year 2020, it shouldn't be unreasonable what with both >>> accommodations and inclusion to expect and accept that many blind >>> lawyers are just as capable of being army lawyers rather then >>> civilian if they choose to. I I commented on this in this list >>> because this concerns attorneys which is the topic of this list. All legal careers should be open to those who are blind or visually impaired. I have read that there is at least 1 in Israel. >>> Finally, there is a wealth of attorneys who's knowledge and skill is >>> being unused and who if they even wish to become this kind of >>> attorney are being kept out. ∫ are simply my thoughts. The views are >>> my own and do not reflect those of others. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16. > law.harvard.edu From rothmanjd at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 21:42:51 2020 From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:42:51 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys In-Reply-To: <021501d669d8$40cf7b00$c26e7100$@timeldermusic.com> References: <021501d669d8$40cf7b00$c26e7100$@timeldermusic.com> Message-ID: <01d301d669df$0a8bdcd0$1fa39670$@gmail.com> Hi, I serve as the Chair of the Blind Federal Employment Committee, and someone asked us to look into your question a few years ago. Essentially, as others have said on this list, JAG Corps attorneys are required to be combat and deployment ready at any time. They are sometimes assigned duties that have physical requirements that relate to combat. I'm familiar with dozens of such attorneys personally who have to do everything from munitions to driving tanks to repelling into dangerous areas. That is not to say that blind people couldn't do those things, but as the laws are currently written, blind people are not permitted to do those things and the argument made is that accommodations would so fundamentally change the nature of the work so as to render this an undue hardship on the agencies. Because attorneys can serve in the defense fields and agencies without being JAG officers, including prosecuting cases before military tribunals, the argument is that people with disabilities are not in fact shut out of this sort of work. The argument the Government makes is that there are two parallel tracks - one as a JAG Corps member and one as a civilian, both with significantly similar duties distinguished only by the combat readiness component. There are a number of blind attorneys throughout DOD. So I suppose the question I would want to know is: What specific areas to you believe blind people are being shut out of in the defense lawyering arena? If we had a better idea of where those areas are, perhaps we could work to make sure that blind people are able to get those jobs. Or is it the nature of JAG work itself that you think should be opened up to the blind? If so, that's going to need to be a legislative and regulatory fix, not simply an education and advocacy one. Ronza Othman, President National Federation of the Blind of Maryland 443-426-4110 Pronouns: she, her, hers -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tim Elder via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:54 PM To: 'Derek Manners' ; 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: tim at timeldermusic.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys I am for a partial integration tailored to other factors. It seems like environments in which civilian contractors are permitted should also be opened for other classes of enlisted people. We have varying degrees of national security clearance. Perhaps degrees of enlistment are appropriate. -----Original Message----- From: Derek Manners Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:52 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindLaw] limitation on blind attorneys Hi all, I worked at DOD office of the general counsel, international affairs division my 1L summer. I was welcomed with open arms and had an awesome experience. But, and despite my bosses wanted it to be possible, I was not able to do JAG. But there are plenty of opportunities to otherwise be a lawyer in the national security space. Best regards Derek Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw wrote: > > FYI If you are interested in serving with the JAG Corps, they do have civilian attorneys who augment the uniform component of the organization. Also, a myriad of defense department agencies have their own legal staff that handle mission-specific matters like contracting or compliance. > While I believe diversity and representation dramatically strengthen organizations that make them core values, I think it is important to note that essential job functions of a commissioned officer in the armed forces, even those who are not line officers, involve tasks that would be difficult to accommodate. As to the likelihood of serving in deployed units, JAGs are expected to deploy just like everyone else. I have a friend who is a USAF JAG. As part of a previous assignment, she was responsible for ensuring that work was being done in accordance with contract requirements. This involved visiting remote locations in Afghanistan, accessible only via helicopter. There was a great deal of humor had when the DoD formally announced women could serve in combat: they’d been serving in combat, just not in combat positions. In a world of asymmetric warfare and green on blue incidents, I don’t think downplaying the risks to personnel is a good idea. Opening up the combat arms has sparked some serious debates about what is and is not essential about qualification standards. It’s an ongoing dialogue, but I think practically speaking, there are reasons to temper expectations here. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 27, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Sarah Badillo via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> That’s true, but first, they never actually gave them the chance to >> see if they could. Second, how many army lawyers actually serve in >> combat? How many army lawyers have in the past served in combat? >> Also, in the future, are they really going to put army lawyers in >> combat? Third, these days with all of the push for equality, the one >> thing that people need to realize is that equality is not there when >> it suits a person and eliminated when it doesn’t. Equality is a >> quality for everyone whether or not someone agrees with it. I think >> that as I said, there’s a whole opportunity that both the prospective lawyer and the military misses out on. >> >>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:40 AM Cody Davis wrote: >>> >>> I considered this career path when I was in law school. I reached >>> out to a recruiter explaining my situation and could not get a >>> response. From what I have read online, even though you’re not in a >>> combat position, all officers must be able to serve in a combat position if needed. >>> >>> I would have love to serve as a JAG officer if it were possible. >>> Maybe permit it is a better word to use than possible. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Cody >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 8:28 AM, ---------- via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this but I >>>> have a >>> question slash comment that in a way pertains to attorneys. Over >>> the past few years and months, many changes have taken place that >>> forced society to re-examine its beliefs and actions regarding >>> diversity and inclusion. I believe the blind must also be equally >>> included. While not all blind attorneys choose to take this path, >>> some may wish, like there sighted colleagues, to join the jag core. >>> or in other words, become an army lawyer. While I'm not trying to >>> glamorize this position, it may carry with it a range of benefits. >>> The vast majority of what army lawyers do is lawyering like any >>> other attorney. Since a lot of positions in the military are non >>> combat positions, and the vast majority of army lawyers complete >>> there 20 years of duty without major incidents, in this modern age >>> of the year 2020, it shouldn't be unreasonable what with both >>> accommodations and inclusion to expect and accept that many blind >>> lawyers are just as capable of being army lawyers rather then >>> civilian if they choose to. I I commented on this in this list >>> because this concerns attorneys which is the topic of this list. All legal careers should be open to those who are blind or visually impaired. I have read that there is at least 1 in Israel. >>> Finally, there is a wealth of attorneys who's knowledge and skill is >>> being unused and who if they even wish to become this kind of >>> attorney are being kept out. ∫ are simply my thoughts. The views are >>> my own and do not reflect those of others. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cjdavis9193%40 >>> gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/agtolentino%40g >> mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16. > law.harvard.edu _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rothmanjd%40gmail.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 10:08:01 2020 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:08:01 +0100 Subject: [blindLaw] Some questions about the modalities of making legal filings accessible Message-ID: Hi, Everyone, I recently started clerking on the Indian Supreme Court. One accessibility issue that I am struggling with is this. My understanding is that lawyers prepare their PDF filings by printing out their work product and then scanning it. As opposed to simply converting their filings from word to PDF. As a result, a lot of text is difficult to decipher. Illustratively, one counter affidavit, in pertinent part, reads as follows: "starkly perceptible signs of influence with regard to allocation of cases to dffirent benches selectively, lo select judges who were perceived to be politically biased." . Such a disclosure creates an obligation ror every citizen to defend the independence of the Supreme Court. A copy of the Times of India report, "We felt then CJI was being remote controlled; Justice Kttrian Joseph", dated 3'd December 2018 is annexed as Annexu ,, C+ (lll't?7)." As you can see, some words are muffed up. The annexure number containing the Times of India report is also unclear. My sense is because they did not convert this document from word to PDF while filing and instead printed and scanned it. Is that right? Second, some scans are also in pixelated form, making their quality poor. Illustratively, part of an annexure reads as follows: "AND WHEREAS the Govemmc~nl of India has daclded to provide certain rela>:atlons for industnal ar.\’.! commercial acl1\·if1es from 20th Aprfl. 2020." Would asking for the filing of a typed copy of annexures of this nature be the best solution? Finally, I am wondering how accessible you find consolidated PDFs. By consolidated PDFs, I mean a PDF that is a compilation of multiple PDFs. One PDF containing the impugned judgment, one cotaining the appeal and so on. As opposed to a single PDF containing everything. Happy to discuss this off-list if that would be more helpful. I am going to talk to the Justice I am working for later this week and propose some solutions. And want to do my homework before I do this. Thank you. Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Candidate for the MPhil in Law Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford From davant1958 at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:49:39 2020 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 11:49:39 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] COVID-19 Webinar, Friday, August 7 Message-ID: <004701d66b48$695ae430$3c10ac90$@gmail.com> In order to serve and provide resources to our Section members, the greater ABA, and the general public, the ABA Section of Civil Rights and Social Justice has developed a multi-part webinar series exploring how the COVID-19 pandemic highlights critical legal issues of criminal justice, civil rights, human rights, and economic concerns, to name only a few. In these free non-CLE and (two CLE) webinars, panelists will address the deepening crisis in our collective pursuit of advancing law and justice. 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From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 15:13:25 2020 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:13:25 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books Message-ID: Hello blind law knowledge fount: I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. 716-563-9882 From NSingh at cov.com Tue Aug 11 15:25:21 2020 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:25:21 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <298b7b59e70b4c1db2544996cc39357f@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com> Hi Maura, I am not sure if Learning Ally has law books, but you could try there. Can your law library scan in the chapters you need until you get the entire book scanned? I did this a few times in law school. Barring that, Westlaw should have most, if not all, the cases you need. Your school's Westlaw rep is a good person to get you set-up and provide some initial training. Regards, Nikki -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:13 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Maura Kutnyak Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books [EXTERNAL] Hello blind law knowledge fount: I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. 716-563-9882 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Tue Aug 11 16:05:33 2020 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:05:33 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200811.160533.342.8@[192.168.1.130]> There is also centgage? I think that's how you spell it. They have a lot of textbooks online. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Maura Kutnyak Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:13:25 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books > Hello blind law knowledge fount: > > I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. > > If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > 716-563-9882 > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net > From philosopher25 at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 16:24:04 2020 From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (philosopher25 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:24:04 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EF52ED8-0098-41D1-9D16-4FA91EE21BF5@gmail.com> My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? BruceSexton, JD Dictated on an accessible device. > On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello blind law knowledge fount: > > I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. > > If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > 716-563-9882 > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 17:10:07 2020 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <3EF52ED8-0098-41D1-9D16-4FA91EE21BF5@gmail.com> References: <3EF52ED8-0098-41D1-9D16-4FA91EE21BF5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <06A77A73-3C2C-499B-8F26-7F13334DF6DC@gmail.com> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. 716-563-9882 > On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: > > My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? > > BruceSexton, JD > > Dictated on an accessible device. > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hello blind law knowledge fount: >> >> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >> >> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> 716-563-9882 >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Tue Aug 11 18:04:42 2020 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:04:42 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <06A77A73-3C2C-499B-8F26-7F13334DF6DC@gmail.com> References: <3EF52ED8-0098-41D1-9D16-4FA91EE21BF5@gmail.com> <06A77A73-3C2C-499B-8F26-7F13334DF6DC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20200811.180442.509.10@[192.168.1.130]> You want reply all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Maura Kutnyak Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books > Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to = because that=92s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate = degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I = purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. = I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to = get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see = above mistake. So, I=92m just wondering if I can take matters into my own = hands. I don=92t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is = always preferable. I just don=92t want to have to grapple with these = folks if I don=92t have to. One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. 716-563-9882 > On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw = wrote: > > ?My Law School=91s disability services was able to get most books = directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that = not what they are doing? > > BruceSexton, JD > > Dictated on an accessible device. > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw = wrote: >> >> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >> >> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a = digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain = access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon = to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I = will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get = what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal = books on book share. >> >> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will = be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days = through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much = for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied = perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to = Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> 716-563-9882 >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for = BlindLaw: >> = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for = BlindLaw: > = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for = BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net From lmendez716 at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 19:25:05 2020 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (luis Mendez) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:25:05 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <20200811.180442.509.10@[192.168.1.130]> References: <20200811.180442.509.10@[192.168.1.130]> Message-ID: Good afternoon, If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. Luis, Attorney Emeritus Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > > You want reply all. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Maura Kutnyak > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books > >> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. > > One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > 716-563-9882 > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >> >> BruceSexton, JD >> >> Dictated on an accessible device. >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>> >>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>> >>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>> 716-563-9882 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From kyra.sweeney94 at gmail.com Tue Aug 11 22:11:52 2020 From: kyra.sweeney94 at gmail.com (Kyra Sweeney) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:11:52 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B04FD36-5D34-4FEF-AF2C-F1B51EADDCF3@gmail.com> I have found westacademic.com and vitalsource.com to be good resources for accessible textbooks. I was able to find all of my 1L textbooks on these sites, and their online ebook format worked pretty well for me. I think you can download the books in epub format as well. Good luck with the start of law school! Kyra > On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. > > I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. > > Luis, > Attorney Emeritus > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> You want reply all. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Maura Kutnyak >> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >> >>> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. >> >> One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> 716-563-9882 >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >>> >>> BruceSexton, JD >>> >>> Dictated on an accessible device. >>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>>> >>>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>>> >>>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>> 716-563-9882 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kyra.sweeney94%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at iCloud.com Wed Aug 12 00:08:30 2020 From: mnowicki4 at iCloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:08:30 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <1B04FD36-5D34-4FEF-AF2C-F1B51EADDCF3@gmail.com> References: <1B04FD36-5D34-4FEF-AF2C-F1B51EADDCF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Maura, I strongly recommend you take advantage of all available resources to try to get the books. While you can access the cases through Westlaw and other legal databases, the casebooks have condensed versions focusing on the most important aspects of the opinions. If you end up reading the full cases, it will take you a lot more time. The books also have annotations and other useful material you won’t find elsewhere. Good luck. Michal Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kyra Sweeney via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:13 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Kyra Sweeney Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books I have found westacademic.com and vitalsource.com to be good resources for accessible textbooks. I was able to find all of my 1L textbooks on these sites, and their online ebook format worked pretty well for me. I think you can download the books in epub format as well. Good luck with the start of law school! Kyra > On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. > > I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. > > Luis, > Attorney Emeritus > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> You want reply all. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Maura Kutnyak >> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >> >>> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. >> >> One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> 716-563-9882 >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >>> >>> BruceSexton, JD >>> >>> Dictated on an accessible device. >>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>>> >>>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>>> >>>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>> 716-563-9882 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kyra.sweeney94%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Wed Aug 12 02:47:42 2020 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (luis Mendez) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 22:47:42 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <5f333368.1c69fb81.2fb02.995fSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <5f333368.1c69fb81.2fb02.995fSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <86CE8045-D9A3-440F-83A7-6BE665F3DDD7@gmail.com> Also, be sure to obtain access to the recommended horn books for your courses. Hopefully you can get them through the disability services, but if not, the resources mentioned on this thread for your course books are also excellent sources for horn books and other helpful legal studies. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Maura, > > I strongly recommend you take advantage of all available resources to try to get the books. While you can access the cases through Westlaw and other legal databases, the casebooks have condensed versions focusing on the most important aspects of the opinions. If you end up reading the full cases, it will take you a lot more time. The books also have annotations and other useful material you won’t find elsewhere. > > Good luck. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Kyra Sweeney via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:13 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Kyra Sweeney > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books > > > > I have found westacademic.com and vitalsource.com to be good resources for accessible textbooks. I was able to find all of my 1L textbooks on these sites, and their online ebook format worked pretty well for me. I think you can download the books in epub format as well. Good luck with the start of law school! > > Kyra > > > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Good afternoon, >> >> If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. >> >> I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. >> >> Luis, >> Attorney Emeritus >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> You want reply all. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak >>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >>> >>>> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. >>> >>> One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>> 716-563-9882 >>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >>>> >>>> BruceSexton, JD >>>> >>>> Dictated on an accessible device. >>>> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>>>> >>>>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>>>> >>>>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>>> 716-563-9882 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kyra.sweeney94%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From seifs at umich.edu Wed Aug 12 13:28:47 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:28:47 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. Message-ID: Hello all, Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that one cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the same time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with an accessible svreenreader. I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. Any ideas? Sincerely, Seif ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Dear Seif, There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass along as feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We do not have a accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - If you have questions for navigating or would like to set up a training please reach out to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. Kind Regards, Stephanie · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney Thomson Reuters the answer company Phone: 1-800-328-4880 stephanie.rust-small at tr.com tr.com -----Original Message----- From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? Thank you; I appreciate your response. That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote and the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that quote is found. Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? Sincerely, Seif On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) wrote: > Dear Seif, > > Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > > On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to clipboard > button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can paste this in your document. > > Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your accessibility software. > We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific content > on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am – 6:30 > pm CST time Monday – Friday. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > > General email for Accessibility Team: > > WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com > > > Reference Attorneys: > > Stephanie Rust-Small > Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > Email: Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > > > Jennifer Ibanez > Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > > > > Kind regards, > Stephanie > > > · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · > · · · · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > Thomson Reuters > the answer company > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > tr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > To: Eshare, Support ; > WestAccessibility > Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > Dear Westlaw, > > I hope you are well. > > I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > > DO you know if > (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as JAWS; > > (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > were fixed; and > > (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > rpeorted years ago. > > I hoped this issue > would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed and > I just do not yet know? > > I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > > As always, thank you for your assistance. > > Sincerely, > Seif > > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | > 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 > seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > Michigan Law School > 3120 Jeffries Hall > 701 South State Street > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.l > aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonre > uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397 > dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrrC > uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information. 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If you are not the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). -- Seif Saqallah (Pronouns: he/him/his.) University of Michigan Juris Doctor/ Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021 International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 248-325-7091 seifs at umich.edu Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of Michigan Law School 3120 Jeffries Hall 701 South State Street Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 www.law.umich.edu/ITC The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). From NSingh at cov.com Wed Aug 12 13:50:54 2020 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:50:54 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433f923d5ec74b5b8849af39166ac2d0@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com> Hi Seif, On copying language with reference, this does not work with JAWS. I understand that someone on this list found a way by using JAWS' multiple cursors, but the method remains cumbersome and likely unintuitive. I know a number of us have repeatedly asked Westlaw to fix this aspect of the platform. It would be such a great feature to have work with screen readers. I am not sure what is the roadblock, whether a technological shortcoming or bandwidth of the Westlaw developers. Ideally, JAWS coders and Westlaw developers would work on this aspect together to find a solution. I do use the “copy citation” button located on any page of a legal reference to do exactly that, and I find that this does save me some time. On the lack of an accessibility guide, that may be correct, though understandably annoying. I am not aware of a JAWS guide to Westlaw. I learned how to use Westlaw like my sighted peers. After an initial training, I played around on the platform. For things I could not quite figure out, I contacted the reference attorneys, including the ones who are knowledgeable about the operation of JAWS. Aside for the litigation analytics tool, which is something I have never had to use, Westlaw is pretty accessible. Regards, Nikki -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:29 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. [EXTERNAL] Hello all, Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that one cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the same time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with an accessible svreenreader. I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. Any ideas? Sincerely, Seif ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Dear Seif, There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass along as feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We do not have a accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - If you have questions for navigating or would like to set up a training please reach out to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. Kind Regards, Stephanie · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney Thomson Reuters the answer company Phone: 1-800-328-4880 stephanie.rust-small at tr.com tr.com -----Original Message----- From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? Thank you; I appreciate your response. That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote and the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that quote is found. Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? Sincerely, Seif On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > wrote: > Dear Seif, > > Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > > On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to clipboard > button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can paste this in your document. > > Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your accessibility software. > We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific content > on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am – 6:30 > pm CST time Monday – Friday. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > > General email for Accessibility Team: > > WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com > > > Reference Attorneys: > > Stephanie Rust-Small > Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > Email: Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > > > Jennifer Ibanez > Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > > > > Kind regards, > Stephanie > > > · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · > · · · · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > Thomson Reuters > the answer company > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > tr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > To: Eshare, Support >; > WestAccessibility > > Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > Dear Westlaw, > > I hope you are well. > > I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > > DO you know if > (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as JAWS; > > (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > were fixed; and > > (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > rpeorted years ago. > > I hoped this issue > would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed and > I just do not yet know? > > I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > > As always, thank you for your assistance. > > Sincerely, > Seif > > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | > 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 > seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > Michigan Law School > 3120 Jeffries Hall > 701 South State Street > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.l > aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonre > uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397 > dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrrC > uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information. 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If you are not the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From seifs at umich.edu Wed Aug 12 13:56:25 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:56:25 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. In-Reply-To: <433f923d5ec74b5b8849af39166ac2d0@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com> References: <433f923d5ec74b5b8849af39166ac2d0@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com> Message-ID: Thank you, Nikki; this is helpful and encouraging. Sincerely, Seif On 8/12/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Seif, > > On copying language with reference, this does not work with JAWS. I > understand that someone on this list found a way by using JAWS' multiple > cursors, but the method remains cumbersome and likely unintuitive. I know a > number of us have repeatedly asked Westlaw to fix this aspect of the > platform. It would be such a great feature to have work with screen readers. > I am not sure what is the roadblock, whether a technological shortcoming or > bandwidth of the Westlaw developers. Ideally, JAWS coders and Westlaw > developers would work on this aspect together to find a solution. I do use > the “copy citation” button located on any page of a legal reference to do > exactly that, and I find that this does save me some time. > > On the lack of an accessibility guide, that may be correct, though > understandably annoying. I am not aware of a JAWS guide to Westlaw. I > learned how to use Westlaw like my sighted peers. After an initial training, > I played around on the platform. For things I could not quite figure out, I > contacted the reference attorneys, including the ones who are knowledgeable > about the operation of JAWS. Aside for the litigation analytics tool, which > is something I have never had to use, Westlaw is pretty accessible. > > Regards, > Nikki > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen > Saqallah via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:29 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. > > > > [EXTERNAL] > > > > Hello all, > > > > Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that one > cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the same > time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with an > accessible svreenreader. > > > > I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" > > > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 > > Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > > > > Dear Seif, > > > > There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the > language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. > > The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass along as > feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We do not have a > accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - If you have > questions for navigating or would like to set up a training please reach out > to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Stephanie > > > > · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · > · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > > > Thomson Reuters > > the answer company > > > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > > > tr.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM > > To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > > > > Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > > > Thank you; I appreciate your response. > > That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote and > the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that quote is > found. > > > > Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > > > wrote: > >> Dear Seif, > >> > >> Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > >> > >> On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > >> will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > >> can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to clipboard > >> button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > >> Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > >> the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can paste >> this in your document. > >> > >> Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > >> questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your >> accessibility software. > >> We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific content > >> on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > >> schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am – 6:30 > >> pm CST time Monday – Friday. > >> > >> Please let me know if you have any further questions. > >> > >> > >> General email for Accessibility Team: > >> > >> WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com > >> > >> > >> Reference Attorneys: > >> > >> Stephanie Rust-Small > >> Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > >> Email: Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > >> > >> > >> Jennifer Ibanez > >> Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > >> Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Stephanie > >> > >> > >> · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · > >> · · · · Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > >> > >> Thomson Reuters > >> the answer company > >> > >> Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > >> > >> stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > >> > >> tr.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > >> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > >> To: Eshare, Support >> >; > >> WestAccessibility >> > > >> Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > >> case quote and citation? > >> > >> Dear Westlaw, > >> > >> I hope you are well. > >> > >> I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > >> > >> DO you know if > >> (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as JAWS; > >> > >> (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > >> were fixed; and > >> > >> (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > >> as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > >> rpeorted years ago. > >> > >> I hoped this issue > >> would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed and > >> I just do not yet know? > >> > >> I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > >> Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > >> > >> As always, thank you for your assistance. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Seif > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Seif Saqallah > >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > >> University of Michigan > >> Juris Doctor/ > >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > >> | > >> 2021 > >> > >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > >> > >> 248-325-7091 > >> seifs at umich.edu > >> > >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > >> Michigan Law School > >> 3120 Jeffries Hall > >> 701 South State Street > >> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.l > >> aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonre > >> uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397 > >> dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrrC > >> uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > >> confidential and may contain privileged information. 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First of all, we recently released a button on both Westlaw and Westlaw Edge that allows people to copy the full citation for a case to their clipboard. The accessible name of the button in Edge is "Copy document citation to Clipboard." If you haven't used the button yet, it might be in a different technical state, and have the accessible name "Copy menu." I'm not sure because I've changed my default. The button also contains a dropdown that gives you the option of copying either the case citation or the URL for the document. Upon selecting one of the options, it becomes your default. Second, I want you to know that everyone who has communicated with us regarding the Copy with Reference frustration was heard. I'd like to tell you what we've done so far. A while ago we spent months researching how to resolve this. How Copy with Reference works is that when someone using a mouse selects text, a popup is automatically generated when a user stops highlighting text with their mouse and releases the left mouse button. As you probably know, when JAWS is used, most actions like this have taken place only inside the JAWS buffer, and that action doesn't get communicated out past the JAWS buffer. So while you can highlight text with JAWS using the keyboard, that selection doesn't move out from the JAWS buffer and get communicated to the browser. This matters because without the message moving to the browser, the popup is never triggered. We worked through many possible solutions, but ultimately could not get past the security issue that we created by opening the clipboard to the browser. We reported this issue to the Clipboard spec team with the World Wide Web Consortium ("W3C") and logged a bug with them because we felt the clipboard spec should address this security breach. We also reported this to Freedom Scientific. Ultimately, and to our frustration, the technology did not support a solution. Recently JAWS released some new functionality that may be a game-changer for us and may allow us to resolve the Copy with Reference issue. We are again investigating to see whether technology will support delivering the popup without using a mouse. Please continue reaching out to us with questions, comments, complaints, or anything on your mind about accessibility. We are committed to being inclusive and accessible. You can use westaccessibility at thomsonreuters.com to email us any time. I'm in that email group as well as the Reference Attorneys mentioned in the chain below. We love hearing from customers and value your insights and input enormously. Thank you for reading through this long post! 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Today's Topics: 1. WestLaw's unhelpful response. (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) 2. Re: WestLaw's unhelpful response. (Singh, Nandini) 3. Re: WestLaw's unhelpful response. (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:28:47 -0400 From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello all, Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that one cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the same time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with an accessible svreenreader. I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. Any ideas? Sincerely, Seif ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Dear Seif, There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass along as feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We do not have a accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - If you have questions for navigating or would like to set up a training please reach out to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. Kind Regards, Stephanie ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney Thomson Reuters the answer company Phone: 1-800-328-4880 stephanie.rust-small at tr.com tr.com -----Original Message----- From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? Thank you; I appreciate your response. That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote and the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that quote is found. Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? Sincerely, Seif On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) wrote: > Dear Seif, > > Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > > On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to clipboard > button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can paste this in your document. > > Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your accessibility software. > We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific content > on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am ? 6:30 > pm CST time Monday ? Friday. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > > General email for Accessibility Team: > > WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com > > > Reference Attorneys: > > Stephanie Rust-Small > Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > Email: Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > > > Jennifer Ibanez > Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > > > > Kind regards, > Stephanie > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > Thomson Reuters > the answer company > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > tr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > To: Eshare, Support ; > WestAccessibility > Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > Dear Westlaw, > > I hope you are well. > > I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > > DO you know if > (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as JAWS; > > (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > were fixed; and > > (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > rpeorted years ago. > > I hoped this issue > would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed and > I just do not yet know? > > I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > > As always, thank you for your assistance. > > Sincerely, > Seif > > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | > 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 > seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > Michigan Law School > 3120 Jeffries Hall > 701 South State Street > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.l > aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonre > uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397 > dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrrC > uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not > the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, > please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this > communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). > -- Seif Saqallah (Pronouns: he/him/his.) 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If you are not the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:50:54 +0000 From: "Singh, Nandini" To: Blind Law Mailing List Subject: Re: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. Message-ID: <433f923d5ec74b5b8849af39166ac2d0 at CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Seif, On copying language with reference, this does not work with JAWS. I understand that someone on this list found a way by using JAWS' multiple cursors, but the method remains cumbersome and likely unintuitive. I know a number of us have repeatedly asked Westlaw to fix this aspect of the platform. It would be such a great feature to have work with screen readers. I am not sure what is the roadblock, whether a technological shortcoming or bandwidth of the Westlaw developers. Ideally, JAWS coders and Westlaw developers would work on this aspect together to find a solution. I do use the ?copy citation? button located on any page of a legal reference to do exactly that, and I find that this does save me some time. On the lack of an accessibility guide, that may be correct, though understandably annoying. I am not aware of a JAWS guide to Westlaw. I learned how to use Westlaw like my sighted peers. After an initial training, I played around on the platform. For things I could not quite figure out, I contacted the reference attorneys, including the ones who are knowledgeable about the operation of JAWS. Aside for the litigation analytics tool, which is something I have never had to use, Westlaw is pretty accessible. Regards, Nikki -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:29 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. [EXTERNAL] Hello all, Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that one cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the same time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with an accessible svreenreader. I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. Any ideas? Sincerely, Seif ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Dear Seif, There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass along as feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We do not have a accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - If you have questions for navigating or would like to set up a training please reach out to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. Kind Regards, Stephanie ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney Thomson Reuters the answer company Phone: 1-800-328-4880 stephanie.rust-small at tr.com tr.com -----Original Message----- From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a case quote and citation? Thank you; I appreciate your response. That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote and the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that quote is found. Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? Sincerely, Seif On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > wrote: > Dear Seif, > > Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > > On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to clipboard > button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can paste this in your document. > > Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your accessibility software. > We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific content > on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am ? 6:30 > pm CST time Monday ? Friday. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions. > > > General email for Accessibility Team: > > WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com euters.com> > > > Reference Attorneys: > > Stephanie Rust-Small > Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > Email: Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > > > Jennifer Ibanez > Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > > > > Kind regards, > Stephanie > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > Thomson Reuters > the answer company > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > tr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > To: Eshare, Support > > >; > WestAccessibility > ty at thomsonreuters.com>> > Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > case quote and citation? > > Dear Westlaw, > > I hope you are well. > > I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > > DO you know if > (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as JAWS; > > (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > were fixed; and > > (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > rpeorted years ago. > > I hoped this issue > would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed and > I just do not yet know? > > I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > > As always, thank you for your assistance. > > Sincerely, > Seif > > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | > 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 > seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > Michigan Law School > 3120 Jeffries Hall > 701 South State Street > Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.l > aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonre > uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397 > dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrrC > uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not > the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, > please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this > communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal (including attachments, if any). > -- Seif Saqallah (Pronouns: he/him/his.) University of Michigan Juris Doctor/ Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021 International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 248-325-7091 seifs at umich.edu Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of Michigan Law School 3120 Jeffries Hall 701 South State Street Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.law.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Ckimberlee.dirks%40thomsonreuters.com%7C8ad83881134b41bb13fd08d83f80b6a0%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c397dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637329169349350600&sdata=10vN4S4itbYAkI69ghgCdQzaz9rBtWm4bef4%2FJBmDag%3D&reserved=0 The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is confidential and may contain privileged information. 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Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you, Nikki; this is helpful and encouraging. Sincerely, Seif On 8/12/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi Seif, > > On copying language with reference, this does not work with JAWS. I > understand that someone on this list found a way by using JAWS' > multiple cursors, but the method remains cumbersome and likely > unintuitive. I know a number of us have repeatedly asked Westlaw to > fix this aspect of the platform. It would be such a great feature to have work with screen readers. > I am not sure what is the roadblock, whether a technological > shortcoming or bandwidth of the Westlaw developers. Ideally, JAWS > coders and Westlaw developers would work on this aspect together to > find a solution. I do use the ?copy citation? button located on any > page of a legal reference to do exactly that, and I find that this does save me some time. > > On the lack of an accessibility guide, that may be correct, though > understandably annoying. I am not aware of a JAWS guide to Westlaw. I > learned how to use Westlaw like my sighted peers. After an initial > training, I played around on the platform. For things I could not > quite figure out, I contacted the reference attorneys, including the > ones who are knowledgeable about the operation of JAWS. Aside for the > litigation analytics tool, which is something I have never had to use, Westlaw is pretty accessible. > > Regards, > Nikki > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen > Saqallah via BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:29 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > Subject: [blindLaw] WestLaw's unhelpful response. > > > > [EXTERNAL] > > > > Hello all, > > > > Below is an unhelpful response I received from Westlaw stating that > one cannot copy both the quote and citation--including the pin--at the > same time. It also states that there is no guide on how to use it with > an accessible svreenreader. > > > > I have heard otherwise, that options for these exist. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: "Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal)" > homsonreuters.com>> > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:07:32 +0000 > > Subject: RE: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to > copy a case quote and citation? > > To: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > > > > Dear Seif, > > > > There is not an option to for JAWS to Copy with Reference - copy the > language and then get the citation with the pin cite unfortunately. > > The Copy Cite option is what is available with JAWS - I will pass > along as feedback the request for Copy with Reference with JAWS. We > do not have a accessibility guide for JAWS and Westlaw unfortunately - > If you have questions for navigating or would like to set up a > training please reach out to myself or Jennifer Ibanez. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Stephanie > > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > > > > Thomson Reuters > > the answer company > > > > Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > > > > stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > > > > tr.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 1:06 PM > > To: Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > homsonreuters.com>> > > Subject: Re: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to > copy a case quote and citation? > > > > Thank you; I appreciate your response. > > That is good to know. However, my question is on how to copy the quote > and the citation for that case including the pin cite at which that > quote is found. > > > > Is there an accessibility guide outlining these and other topics? > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > On 8/11/20, Rust-Small, Stephanie (Legal) > homsonreuters.com>> > wrote: > >> Dear Seif, > >> > >> Thank you for contacting the Accessibility group of Thomson Reuters. > >> > >> On Westlaw Edge the JAWS commands of Insert F5, F6, F7 for example > >> will work to navigate on the page. If you are in a case document you > >> can do "insert F5" and then go to "Copy document citation to >> clipboard > >> button" press enter and then press enter again. You will then have a > >> Copy Citation for this document option if you Tab you can then set to > >> the Citation format and then tab to Copy button and then you can >> paste this in your document. > >> > >> Jennifer and I provide training on Westlaw, or we can answer any > >> questions that you may have regarding using Westlaw with your >> accessibility software. > >> We go over basic navigating and in-depth training for specific >> content > >> on Westlaw and using JAWS or other accessibility software. We can > >> schedule phone training and we are generally available from 7am ? >> 6:30 > >> pm CST time Monday ? Friday. > >> > >> Please let me know if you have any further questions. > >> > >> > >> General email for Accessibility Team: > >> > >> WestAccessibility at thomsonreuters.com> reuters.com> > >> > >> > >> Reference Attorneys: > >> > >> Stephanie Rust-Small > >> Phone Number: 952-214-5410 > >> Email: >> Stephanie.Rust-Small at tr.com > >> > >> > >> Jennifer Ibanez > >> Phone Number: 952-214-5436 > >> Email: Jennifer.Ibanez at tr.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Stephanie > >> > >> > >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > >> ? ? ? ? Stephanie Rust-Small Reference Attorney > >> > >> Thomson Reuters > >> the answer company > >> > >> Phone: 1-800-328-4880 > >> > >> stephanie.rust-small at tr.com > >> > >> tr.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > >> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2020 1:03 AM > >> To: Eshare, Support >> > >>; > >> WestAccessibility >> > ity at thomsonreuters.com>> > >> Subject: Does the Update TO WestLaw Enable Blind JAWS Users to copy a > >> case quote and citation? > >> > >> Dear Westlaw, > >> > >> I hope you are well. > >> > >> I am glad to see that a new update to Westlaw is now available. > >> > >> DO you know if > >> (1) there is a guide on how to use it with screenreaders such as >> JAWS; > >> > >> (2) if the accessibility issues I mentioned over the past few years > >> were fixed; and > >> > >> (3) specifically, how to copy a quote with its case and pin citation, > >> as I still do not know how to do so with JAWS on WestLaw, an issue I > >> rpeorted years ago. > >> > >> I hoped this issue > >> would at least be addressed in the new update. Perhaps it is fixed >> and > >> I just do not yet know? > >> > >> I tried to do so, but could not find a way. > >> Again, it would be helpful to have a screenreader guide to using Westlaw. > >> > >> As always, thank you for your assistance. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Seif > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Seif Saqallah > >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > >> University of Michigan > >> Juris Doctor/ > >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > >> | > >> 2021 > >> > >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > >> > >> 248-325-7091 > >> seifs at umich.edu > >> > >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of > >> Michigan Law School > >> 3120 Jeffries Hall > >> 701 South State Street > >> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109 > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. >> l > >> aw.umich.edu%2FITC&data=02%7C01%7Cstephanie.rust-small%40thomsonr >> e > >> uters.com%7Ce8eb272bcb7648e2def608d83e212b89%7C62ccb8646a1a4b5d8e1c39 >> 7 > >> dec1a8258%7C0%7C0%7C637327659468040729&sdata=Zjwg0AEuEwBiSb66rmrr >> C > >> uvTo%2BTuvL8TlUvD8PfiFkc%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) >> is > >> confidential and may contain privileged information. 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I have been using the copy with citation button for a couple of weeks now, and I can attest that it is already saving me time. Keeping my fingers crossed for success with additional features. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Dirks, Kim \(TR Product\) via BlindLaw" Subject: Re: [blindLaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 195, Issue 10 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:28:31 -0500 Size: 43622 URL: From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Aug 14 14:50:28 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 08:50:28 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: [DRBA] CREEC looking to sponsor a fellowship attorney In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101d6724a$40dba090$c292e1b0$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: Disability Rights Bar Association On Behalf Of Pilar Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:05 PM To: DRBA at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [DRBA] CREEC looking to sponsor a fellowship attorney Hi everyone, CREEC’s Immigration Detention Accountability Project is hoping to sponsor someone seeking fellowship funding and we’ve put together the below page to share with interested law students/judicial clerks/lawyers who might want to apply this cycle. 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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Aug 14 18:11:13 2020 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:11:13 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] TeamChild is hiring a Staff Attorney! Yakima Washington Message-ID: From: Heidi Sadri Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 10:14 AM To: ATJ Community Subject: [atj-community] TeamChild is hiring a Staff Attorney! Greetings all, TeamChild is hiring a Staff Attorney in our Yakima office! The job description is attached and on our website. Please share with your networks. 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The Center's mission is to promote access to justice for children and families. As part of the preeminent national association of nearly 400,000 lawyers, judges, legal educators, and law students, the American Bar Association provides the Center a unique platform to accomplish this mission. JOB SUMMARY: The Associate Director will possess a vision for, and demonstrated career commitment to, promoting access to justice for children and families. The position will partner with the Director to lead and manage the Center. This includes identifying, establishing and implementing Center priorities, managing a diverse portfolio of grant projects, supervising a 16-person team, helping to conceptualize new projects and seek external funding for continued growth, collaborating with national child welfare organizations and government entities, supporting ABA-wide initiatives and leadership, and speaking and writing on substantive legal matters involving children and the law to expand a national understanding of the child welfare legal field and how it interfaces with other access to justice initiatives. RESPONSIBILITIES: * Represent the Center at meetings and conferences, and collaborate with other national, state and local organizations in the child welfare field, both governmental and non-governmental * Supervise grant funded personnel to ensure all projects achieve objectives, match staffing resources, and advance the Center's mission * Support program directors in continuing to create new project concepts and cultivate funding opportunities within key substantive areas * Partner in budget planning and visioning with annual and multi-year projections and goals * Publish articles, deliver substantive presentations, and leverage social media communication tools to raise awareness of emerging child law topics across the country * Help lead strategic planning for our national access to justice conferences * Work with ABA members to develop law-related policies and practice standards, many for consideration by the ABA House of Delegates to become ABA supported policies * Collaborate with ABA Human Resources, Financial Services, and General Counsel departments as well as substantive entities in ABA sections, divisions, and commissions QUALIFICATIONS: * A JD degree from an accredited law school and admission to the bar in at least one jurisdiction * Minimum 8 years experience in the children's law field * Significant prior background in a supervisory role * Resource development, budgeting, grant, contracting and financial management experience * Excellent communication skills, through public speaking, writing, and social media * Prior and ongoing commitment to promoting racial justice and cultural sensitivity in projects, training, and policies. * Ability to exercise independent judgment and work well with a variety of constituencies All applications must be submitted online. To apply for this position please click here. When applying please include a cover letter and resume in one document when uploading on the ABA site. This position is located in Washington DC. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 11:56:31 2020 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (K. Scott Carlson) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:56:31 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <5f33336d.1c69fb81.fba77.a8daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> References: <5f33336d.1c69fb81.fba77.a8daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <50608ADB-A6A5-4DBB-8DE2-2B1F28997F24@gmail.com> One thing to note with EPUB files: if the syllabus refers to page numbers of the textbooks, you won't be able to find them as EPUB books typically do not contain page numbers. I had a lot of luck with my library obtaining hornbooks and exam practice books directly from West; I encourage you to take advantage of this if at all possible. > On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > Maura, > > I strongly recommend you take advantage of all available resources to try to get the books. While you can access the cases through Westlaw and other legal databases, the casebooks have condensed versions focusing on the most important aspects of the opinions. If you end up reading the full cases, it will take you a lot more time. The books also have annotations and other useful material you won’t find elsewhere. > > Good luck. > > Michal > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Kyra Sweeney via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:13 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Kyra Sweeney > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books > > > > I have found westacademic.com and vitalsource.com to be good resources for accessible textbooks. I was able to find all of my 1L textbooks on these sites, and their online ebook format worked pretty well for me. I think you can download the books in epub format as well. Good luck with the start of law school! > > Kyra > > > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Good afternoon, >> >> If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. >> >> I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. >> >> Luis, >> Attorney Emeritus >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> You want reply all. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak >>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >>> >>>> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. >>> >>> One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>> 716-563-9882 >>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >>>> >>>> BruceSexton, JD >>>> >>>> Dictated on an accessible device. >>>> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>>>> >>>>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>>>> >>>>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>>> 716-563-9882 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kyra.sweeney94%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Mon Aug 17 12:07:59 2020 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:07:59 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 1 L text books In-Reply-To: <50608ADB-A6A5-4DBB-8DE2-2B1F28997F24@gmail.com> References: <50608ADB-A6A5-4DBB-8DE2-2B1F28997F24@gmail.com> Message-ID: <108F84E0-BCE8-4F20-803A-5D06C734639D@gmail.com> Hi everyone: Just a quick and possibly redundant, thank you!!! I sent a similar message, or thought I did, last week. I saw it in my drafts folder a couple days ago so I’m not sure if it ultimately came through. these messages have provided lots of ideas and supplied me with a very useful list of options. Thanks again! Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. 716-563-9882 > On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:57 AM, K. Scott Carlson via BlindLaw wrote: > > One thing to note with EPUB files: if the syllabus refers to page numbers of the textbooks, you won't be able to find them as EPUB books typically do not contain page numbers. > > I had a lot of luck with my library obtaining hornbooks and exam practice books directly from West; I encourage you to take advantage of this if at all possible. > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:10 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Maura, >> >> I strongly recommend you take advantage of all available resources to try to get the books. While you can access the cases through Westlaw and other legal databases, the casebooks have condensed versions focusing on the most important aspects of the opinions. If you end up reading the full cases, it will take you a lot more time. The books also have annotations and other useful material you won’t find elsewhere. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Michal >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Kyra Sweeney via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:13 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Kyra Sweeney >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >> >> >> >> I have found westacademic.com and vitalsource.com to be good resources for accessible textbooks. I was able to find all of my 1L textbooks on these sites, and their online ebook format worked pretty well for me. I think you can download the books in epub format as well. Good luck with the start of law school! >> >> Kyra >> >> >> >>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, luis Mendez via BlindLaw wrote: >>> >>> Good afternoon, >>> >>> If you have to purchase the books, you can check to see if the required edition is available in an accessible format through the Kindle store. >>> >>> I had less success dealing with West, but that was several years ago. >>> >>> Luis, >>> Attorney Emeritus >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> >>>> You want reply all. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:10:07 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 1 L text books >>>> >>>>> Bruce, that is the process. It is a process that I am accustomed to because that’s how it was done during my undergraduate and graduate degrees. The problem is, they gave me the wrong list two months ago. I purchased a book which I now know will not be used in my contracts class. I do not have a lot of faith in the person whose responsibility it is to get the books. She has been unreliable about responding to emails and see above mistake. So, I’m just wondering if I can take matters into my own hands. I don’t really care if I have to spend money, of course free is always preferable. I just don’t want to have to grapple with these folks if I don’t have to. >>>> >>>> One question, should I do reply, or reply all? On this list that is. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>> 716-563-9882 >>>> >>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 12:25 PM, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?My Law School‘s disability services was able to get most books directly from the publisher. This made the process a lot simpler. Is that not what they are doing? >>>>> >>>>> BruceSexton, JD >>>>> >>>>> Dictated on an accessible device. >>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello blind law knowledge fount: >>>>>> >>>>>> I will do my best to keep this brief. my central question is, is there a digital textbook resource, other than book share, to which I can gain access? not surprisingly, the accessibility resources office on my soon to be law school campus has mucked up the process of gathering books. I will spare the details but I feel compelled to figure out if I can get what I need myself. They only have one of the three assigned doctrinal books on book share. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I do not have the books that I need in time, can I assume that I will be able to look up the cases that we are reading in the early days through either lexis or Westlaw? Perhaps Google scholar? Thanks very much for any help you all may have to offer! The kind words and varied perspectives to which I am exposed through this list have done so much to Bolster my confidence as i make my way into this brave New World. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>>>> 716-563-9882 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kyra.sweeney94%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Aug 20 15:13:11 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. 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Many schools have already resumed in-person learning and are working to keep students and staff healthy and socially-distant. But, concerns about the return to school this year are not just about students and staff members' physical safety. States and districts are also considering questions raised regarding civil rights, including free speech, access to quality instruction, and school discipline policies, among many others. Policymakers, families, and district leaders are grappling with how to best approach the return to school. Proposals have ranged from "pandemic pods" to hybrid learning approaches. But, there are potential consequences for various approaches, including: a shift to focus on remediation or deepening segregation as students who have other alternatives to in-person learning exercise them. As students return, it is imperative to examine these issues. 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Avant, President National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois Live the life you wantSent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division > Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT > To: Denise R Avant > Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 > Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org > >  > > The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ > Trouble Viewing? View online. > > > > > > > The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis > Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern > Sponsored by the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division > Co-Sponsored by the Commission on Disability Rights > > During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. 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Meeting Code: GD2109ADA > > > Update profile > E-mail preferences > Unsubscribe > Privacy Policy > Contact Us > > > > This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. > Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. > We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. > > American Bar Association > 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 > 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 > > MORE ABA RESOURCES > AMBAR.ORG > CAREER CENTER > MEMBERSHIP > CALENDAR > CLE > PUBLISHING > > From asandapav at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 21:09:57 2020 From: asandapav at gmail.com (Asanda Pavlacka) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:09:57 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71DD0B7C-94C4-4568-8675-4506FA4E88C4@gmail.com> Thanks for sending this, however the registration button is not a working link, although more importantly the cut off for this registration mentions it was yesterday. Is there a recorded version folks can get after the fact, do you know? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > >  > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > > Live the life you wantSent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT >> To: Denise R Avant >> Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 >> Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org >> >>  >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ >> Trouble Viewing? View online. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis >> Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern >> Sponsored by the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> Co-Sponsored by the Commission on Disability Rights >> >> During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. Screening job applicants for COVID symptoms, asking questions about whether an employee is at a higher risk due to an underlying medical condition, and addressing reasonable accommodation and undue hardship, are examples. The pandemic and its associated business challenges raise numerous questions under the ADA and other EEO laws. >> >> Referring to guidance issued by the EEOC and current caselaw, attendees of this program will be able to: >> Identify the basic legal concepts of the ADA >> Understand what disability-related inquiries and medical exams are permissible >> Recognize the circumstances where an employer can exclude an employee who poses a "direct threat" >> Identify the legal requirement of providing "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities in this pandemic era. >> >> >> REGISTER NOW! >> >> >> Connect with us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuition discounts for ABA members and members of the GPSLD and Commission on Disability Rights. >> >> First time attendee? Not sure if you have an ABA account? Not seeing all the rates, or unsure which is best for you? We can help! Just click "Register Now," and you will be directed to a page that will check if you have a profile already set up; if you don't, you will need to make an account, but our website will take you through all the steps. Once you are in our system, you can sign up at the rate that best applies to you. If you have any trouble or need help, please contact Alison Hill at 202-662-1024 or alison.hill at americanbar.org. >> >> Registration closes at 5pm Eastern on September 23, 2020. All participants must register for the program. Meeting Code: GD2109ADA >> >> >> Update profile >> E-mail preferences >> Unsubscribe >> Privacy Policy >> Contact Us >> >> >> >> This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. >> Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. >> We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. >> >> American Bar Association >> 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 >> 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 >> >> MORE ABA RESOURCES >> AMBAR.ORG >> CAREER CENTER >> MEMBERSHIP >> CALENDAR >> CLE >> PUBLISHING >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/asandapav%40gmail.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 12:00:39 2020 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:00:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course Message-ID: All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura From amatney at loeb.com Tue Aug 25 12:11:46 2020 From: amatney at loeb.com (Angela Matney) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:11:46 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Laura, I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. While this process was disconcerting and not particularly well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about this. Best, Angie SUHANA RAI Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education District of Columbia Bar 901 4th Street, NW Washington, DC 20001 •: 202.737.4700 x2789 •: srai at dcbar.org www.dcbar.org Angela Matney, CIPP/US Attorney at Law [Loeb & Loeb LLP] Loeb and Loeb LLP 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. ________________________________ From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Asanda Pavlacka via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 4:10 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Asanda Pavlacka Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Thanks for sending this, however the registration button is not a working link, although more importantly the cut off for this registration mentions it was yesterday. Is there a recorded version folks can get after the fact, do you know? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > >  > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > > Live the life you wantSent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> >> Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT >> To: Denise R Avant >> Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know >> Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 >> Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org >> >>  >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ Trouble Viewing? View online. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern Sponsored by >> the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division Co-Sponsored by >> the Commission on Disability Rights >> >> During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. Screening job applicants for COVID symptoms, asking questions about whether an employee is at a higher risk due to an underlying medical condition, and addressing reasonable accommodation and undue hardship, are examples. The pandemic and its associated business challenges raise numerous questions under the ADA and other EEO laws. >> >> Referring to guidance issued by the EEOC and current caselaw, attendees of this program will be able to: >> Identify the basic legal concepts of the ADA Understand what >> disability-related inquiries and medical exams are permissible >> Recognize the circumstances where an employer can exclude an employee who poses a "direct threat" >> Identify the legal requirement of providing "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities in this pandemic era. >> >> >> REGISTER NOW! >> >> >> Connect with us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuition discounts for ABA members and members of the GPSLD and Commission on Disability Rights. >> >> First time attendee? Not sure if you have an ABA account? Not seeing all the rates, or unsure which is best for you? We can help! Just click "Register Now," and you will be directed to a page that will check if you have a profile already set up; if you don't, you will need to make an account, but our website will take you through all the steps. Once you are in our system, you can sign up at the rate that best applies to you. If you have any trouble or need help, please contact Alison Hill at 202-662-1024 or alison.hill at americanbar.org. >> >> Registration closes at 5pm Eastern on September 23, 2020. All >> participants must register for the program. Meeting Code: GD2109ADA >> >> >> Update profile >> E-mail preferences >> Unsubscribe >> Privacy Policy >> Contact Us >> >> >> >> This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. >> Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. >> We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. >> >> American Bar Association >> 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 >> 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 >> >> MORE ABA RESOURCES >> AMBAR.ORG >> CAREER CENTER >> MEMBERSHIP >> CALENDAR >> CLE >> PUBLISHING >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/asandapav%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 12:27:04 2020 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:27:04 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. This is just so disheartening and a classic example of what happens when universal design is not implemented from the ground up. I still have a month before starting my new job, so I just may make this my new hill to die on. Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Angela Matney wrote: > >  > Hi Laura, > > I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. > > While this process was disconcerting and not particularly well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about this. > > Best, > > Angie > > SUHANA RAI > Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education > District of Columbia Bar > 901 4th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20001 > (: 202.737.4700 x2789 > 8: srai at dcbar.org > www.dcbar.org > > > > Angela Matney, CIPP/US > Attorney at Law > > > Loeb and Loeb LLP > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com > Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Laura Wolk > Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course > > > > All, > > I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. > I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken > the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, > only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that > display on the screen during the course. How have people handled > this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to > the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond > given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course > before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any > assistance is gratefully appreciatted. > > Best, > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Tue Aug 25 13:28:46 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 07:28:46 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] blind lawyer either in or licensed in PA Message-ID: <003501d67ae3$a921d560$fb658020$@labarrelaw.com> Hello Blind Law friends: I have been contacted by a Canadian company which sells blindness products and services who needs a lawyer in or licenses in Pennsylvania to handle a small business matter involving failure to pay and other matters. They would really like to hire a blind lawyer. So, if you are such an attorney or know such an attorney, please contact me off list and I will make the connection. slabarre at labarrelaw.com Best, Scott From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Aug 25 18:15:07 2020 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:15:07 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course Message-ID: Last week, I had a similar thing happen with an ABA CLE. Apparently, there were things that came up on the screen during the webinar, but I had dialed into the webinar and was accessing the content using a telephone so I did not know. Afterward, I was told I could not get CLE because I had not responded to the prompts. However, when I contacted the ABA, they fixed the issue. This may be a new accessibility issue that we should all start paying attention to. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed.gov From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Tue Aug 25 18:25:36 2020 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:25:36 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d67b0d$215331e0$63f995a0$@nyc.rr.com> I agree. The same thing happened to me on a New York City CLE. I heard these dinging sounds, but it didn't occur to me that I needed to do anything. I probably did not get credit for the course. The whole thing is ridiculous! They used to have verbal announcements of CLE codes. I doubt many sighted people stare at their computer screens for two hours or more. Ray -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course Last week, I had a similar thing happen with an ABA CLE. Apparently, there were things that came up on the screen during the webinar, but I had dialed into the webinar and was accessing the content using a telephone so I did not know. Afterward, I was told I could not get CLE because I had not responded to the prompts. However, when I contacted the ABA, they fixed the issue. This may be a new accessibility issue that we should all start paying attention to. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed. gov _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 19:52:05 2020 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:52:05 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009601d67b19$36684410$a338cc30$@gmail.com> I took this course a while ago now and I had the same issue. But I was able to get a hold of someone who emailed me the codes. I will say that the DC Bar was pretty quick and responsive. Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Angela Matney via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:12 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Angela Matney Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course Hi Laura, I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. While this process was disconcerting and not particularly well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about this. Best, Angie SUHANA RAI Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education District of Columbia Bar 901 4th Street, NW Washington, DC 20001 •: 202.737.4700 x2789 •: srai at dcbar.org www.dcbar.org Angela Matney, CIPP/US Attorney at Law [Loeb & Loeb LLP] Loeb and Loeb LLP 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. ________________________________ From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 19:57:19 2020 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 12:57:19 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 In-Reply-To: <0e1001d67ada$bb1e6980$315b3c80$@gmail.com> References: <71DD0B7C-94C4-4568-8675-4506FA4E88C4@gmail.com> <0e1001d67ada$bb1e6980$315b3c80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009f01d67b19$f10d0710$d3271530$@gmail.com> Hi Denise, Can we still register for this? I didn't see a link to register. Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Denise Avant via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:25 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 The program will be on demand for CLE Credit. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Asanda Pavlacka via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 4:10 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Asanda Pavlacka Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Thanks for sending this, however the registration button is not a working link, although more importantly the cut off for this registration mentions it was yesterday. Is there a recorded version folks can get after the fact, do you know? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > >  > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > > Live the life you wantSent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> >> Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT >> To: Denise R Avant >> Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know >> Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 >> Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org >> >>  >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ Trouble Viewing? View online. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern Sponsored by >> the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division Co-Sponsored by >> the Commission on Disability Rights >> >> During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. Screening job applicants for COVID symptoms, asking questions about whether an employee is at a higher risk due to an underlying medical condition, and addressing reasonable accommodation and undue hardship, are examples. The pandemic and its associated business challenges raise numerous questions under the ADA and other EEO laws. >> >> Referring to guidance issued by the EEOC and current caselaw, attendees of this program will be able to: >> Identify the basic legal concepts of the ADA Understand what >> disability-related inquiries and medical exams are permissible >> Recognize the circumstances where an employer can exclude an employee who poses a "direct threat" >> Identify the legal requirement of providing "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities in this pandemic era. >> >> >> REGISTER NOW! >> >> >> Connect with us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuition discounts for ABA members and members of the GPSLD and Commission on Disability Rights. >> >> First time attendee? Not sure if you have an ABA account? Not seeing all the rates, or unsure which is best for you? We can help! Just click "Register Now," and you will be directed to a page that will check if you have a profile already set up; if you don't, you will need to make an account, but our website will take you through all the steps. Once you are in our system, you can sign up at the rate that best applies to you. If you have any trouble or need help, please contact Alison Hill at 202-662-1024 or alison.hill at americanbar.org. >> >> Registration closes at 5pm Eastern on September 23, 2020. All >> participants must register for the program. Meeting Code: GD2109ADA >> >> >> Update profile >> E-mail preferences >> Unsubscribe >> Privacy Policy >> Contact Us >> >> >> >> This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. >> Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. >> We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. >> >> American Bar Association >> 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 >> 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 >> >> MORE ABA RESOURCES >> AMBAR.ORG >> CAREER CENTER >> MEMBERSHIP >> CALENDAR >> CLE >> PUBLISHING >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/asandapav%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Tue Aug 25 20:30:58 2020 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:30:58 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 In-Reply-To: <009f01d67b19$f10d0710$d3271530$@gmail.com> References: <71DD0B7C-94C4-4568-8675-4506FA4E88C4@gmail.com> <0e1001d67ada$bb1e6980$315b3c80$@gmail.com> <009f01d67b19$f10d0710$d3271530$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201d67b1e$a4b41930$ee1c4b90$@sbgaal.com> I have run in to this with CLE's as well. I used Aira and they e-mailed the codes them to me Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1212 Texas Avenue Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Hi Denise, Can we still register for this? I didn't see a link to register. Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Denise Avant via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:25 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 The program will be on demand for CLE Credit. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Asanda Pavlacka via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 4:10 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Asanda Pavlacka Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Thanks for sending this, however the registration button is not a working link, although more importantly the cut off for this registration mentions it was yesterday. Is there a recorded version folks can get after the fact, do you know? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > >  > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > > Live the life you wantSent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> >> Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT >> To: Denise R Avant >> Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know >> Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 >> Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org >> >>  >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ Trouble Viewing? View online. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern Sponsored by >> the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division Co-Sponsored by >> the Commission on Disability Rights >> >> During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. Screening job applicants for COVID symptoms, asking questions about whether an employee is at a higher risk due to an underlying medical condition, and addressing reasonable accommodation and undue hardship, are examples. The pandemic and its associated business challenges raise numerous questions under the ADA and other EEO laws. >> >> Referring to guidance issued by the EEOC and current caselaw, attendees of this program will be able to: >> Identify the basic legal concepts of the ADA Understand what >> disability-related inquiries and medical exams are permissible >> Recognize the circumstances where an employer can exclude an employee who poses a "direct threat" >> Identify the legal requirement of providing "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities in this pandemic era. >> >> >> REGISTER NOW! >> >> >> Connect with us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuition discounts for ABA members and members of the GPSLD and Commission on Disability Rights. >> >> First time attendee? Not sure if you have an ABA account? Not seeing all the rates, or unsure which is best for you? We can help! Just click "Register Now," and you will be directed to a page that will check if you have a profile already set up; if you don't, you will need to make an account, but our website will take you through all the steps. Once you are in our system, you can sign up at the rate that best applies to you. If you have any trouble or need help, please contact Alison Hill at 202-662-1024 or alison.hill at americanbar.org. >> >> Registration closes at 5pm Eastern on September 23, 2020. All >> participants must register for the program. Meeting Code: GD2109ADA >> >> >> Update profile >> E-mail preferences >> Unsubscribe >> Privacy Policy >> Contact Us >> >> >> >> This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. >> Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. >> We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. >> >> American Bar Association >> 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 >> 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 >> >> MORE ABA RESOURCES >> AMBAR.ORG >> CAREER CENTER >> MEMBERSHIP >> CALENDAR >> CLE >> PUBLISHING >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/asandapav%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From sbg at sbgaal.com Tue Aug 25 20:34:22 2020 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:34:22 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 In-Reply-To: <009f01d67b19$f10d0710$d3271530$@gmail.com> References: <71DD0B7C-94C4-4568-8675-4506FA4E88C4@gmail.com> <0e1001d67ada$bb1e6980$315b3c80$@gmail.com> <009f01d67b19$f10d0710$d3271530$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000301d67b1f$1dfcfcd0$59f6f670$@sbgaal.com> I should probably add that the AIRA agent used Team viewer to do it and just fastforwarded to where he saw the codes. I understand that this inaccessibility shouldn't exist and whole heartedly support getting this changed, but I just wanted to reference AIR's ability to help to navigate the problem in the meantime Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1212 Texas Avenue Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Hi Denise, Can we still register for this? I didn't see a link to register. Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Denise Avant via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:25 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 The program will be on demand for CLE Credit. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Asanda Pavlacka via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 4:10 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Asanda Pavlacka Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Thanks for sending this, however the registration button is not a working link, although more importantly the cut off for this registration mentions it was yesterday. Is there a recorded version folks can get after the fact, do you know? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Denise Avant via BlindLaw wrote: > >  > > Denise R. Avant, President > National Federation Of The Blind Of Illinois > > Live the life you wantSent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division >> >> Date: August 24, 2020 at 3:05:04 PM CDT >> To: Denise R Avant >> Subject: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know >> Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 >> Reply-To: GPSLD at americanbar.org >> >>  >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ Trouble Viewing? View online. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the >> COVID-19 Crisis Thursday, September 24 @ 1:00 PM Eastern Sponsored by >> the ABA Government and Public Sector Lawyers Division Co-Sponsored by >> the Commission on Disability Rights >> >> During this pandemic, a host of issues can arise that implicate the ADA. Screening job applicants for COVID symptoms, asking questions about whether an employee is at a higher risk due to an underlying medical condition, and addressing reasonable accommodation and undue hardship, are examples. The pandemic and its associated business challenges raise numerous questions under the ADA and other EEO laws. >> >> Referring to guidance issued by the EEOC and current caselaw, attendees of this program will be able to: >> Identify the basic legal concepts of the ADA Understand what >> disability-related inquiries and medical exams are permissible >> Recognize the circumstances where an employer can exclude an employee who poses a "direct threat" >> Identify the legal requirement of providing "reasonable accommodations" to employees with disabilities in this pandemic era. >> >> >> REGISTER NOW! >> >> >> Connect with us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tuition discounts for ABA members and members of the GPSLD and Commission on Disability Rights. >> >> First time attendee? Not sure if you have an ABA account? Not seeing all the rates, or unsure which is best for you? We can help! Just click "Register Now," and you will be directed to a page that will check if you have a profile already set up; if you don't, you will need to make an account, but our website will take you through all the steps. Once you are in our system, you can sign up at the rate that best applies to you. If you have any trouble or need help, please contact Alison Hill at 202-662-1024 or alison.hill at americanbar.org. >> >> Registration closes at 5pm Eastern on September 23, 2020. All >> participants must register for the program. Meeting Code: GD2109ADA >> >> >> Update profile >> E-mail preferences >> Unsubscribe >> Privacy Policy >> Contact Us >> >> >> >> This message was sent to davant1958 at gmail.com. >> Your e-mail address will only be used within the ABA. >> We do not sell or rent e-mail addresses. >> >> American Bar Association >> 1050 Connecticut Ave NW #400, Washington, DC 20036 >> 800-285-2221 | 312-988-5522 >> >> MORE ABA RESOURCES >> AMBAR.ORG >> CAREER CENTER >> MEMBERSHIP >> CALENDAR >> CLE >> PUBLISHING >> >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/asandapav%40gmai > l.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/davant1958%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 01:32:12 2020 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (Luis Mendez) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:32:12 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course In-Reply-To: <002701d67b0d$215331e0$63f995a0$@nyc.rr.com> References: <002701d67b0d$215331e0$63f995a0$@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <00d401d67b48$b9b70750$2d2515f0$@gmail.com> Good evening Ray, I agree with you. I ran into this problem with an ABA CLE course because I switched screens so that I could take notes. Once I pointed out the issue I did received credit for the course. Lessoned learned though, now I use my braille display note taking features, and hope that the prompt is audible and the information is spoken. That should be the standard approach. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Ray Wayne via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:26 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course I agree. The same thing happened to me on a New York City CLE. I heard these dinging sounds, but it didn't occur to me that I needed to do anything. I probably did not get credit for the course. The whole thing is ridiculous! They used to have verbal announcements of CLE codes. I doubt many sighted people stare at their computer screens for two hours or more. Ray -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nightingale, Noel via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:15 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Nightingale, Noel Subject: [blindLaw] CLEs that have prompts on the screen to document that the participant took the course Last week, I had a similar thing happen with an ABA CLE. Apparently, there were things that came up on the screen during the webinar, but I had dialed into the webinar and was accessing the content using a telephone so I did not know. Afterward, I was told I could not get CLE because I had not responded to the prompts. However, when I contacted the ABA, they fixed the issue. This may be a new accessibility issue that we should all start paying attention to. Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:01 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Laura Wolk Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. Best, Laura _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/noel.nightingale%40ed. gov _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rwayne1%40nyc.rr.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From davant1958 at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 02:21:06 2020 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:21:06 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Next Week's Civil Rights and Social Justice Programming In-Reply-To: <1134698492925.1134152316292.2039982102.0.681635JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> References: <1134698492925.1134152316292.2039982102.0.681635JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com> Message-ID: <015501d67b4f$8e5e35e0$ab1aa1a0$@gmail.com> Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org From: ABA Section of Civil Rights and Social Justice Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:36 PM To: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Next Week's Civil Rights and Social Justice Programming The ABA Standing Committee on Election Law Presents "How to Run An Election – the ABA Way" The Latest Civil Rights Programming! How to Run An Election – the ABA Way Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:00 p.m. - 3:30 p.m. EDT Register Here In August 2020, the American Bar Association passed updated Election Administration Guidelines that we encourage election officials to adopt. The panelists will discuss several of the Guidelines, including voting during emergencies, absentee ballots, and voter purging. 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For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: Allbright, Amy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:11 AM To: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: RE: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Denise, Here is the link for the program; there is an issue: The html email may have been corrupted at some point. LISTSERV is notorious for converting html to plaintext, and the hyperlinks it contained must have been wiped out. Registration for this program will be open until September 23, 2020. Here is the registration link: https://www.americanbar.org/events-cle/mtg/web/402536631/ -----Original Message----- From: davant1958 at gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 10:25 PM To: Allbright, Amy Subject: FW: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Also, there might be an accessibility problem. I don't know if it was because the registration link is no longer valid or there was a problem in the first place. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 3:34 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Shannon Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 I should probably add that the AIRA agent used Team viewer to do it and just fastforwarded to where he saw the codes. I understand that this inaccessibility shouldn't exist and whole heartedly support getting this changed, but I just wanted to reference AIR's ability to help to navigate the problem in the meantime Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1212 Texas Avenue Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Deepa Goraya Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 Hi Denise, Can we still register for this? I didn't see a link to register. Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Denise Avant via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:25 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Fwd: The Americans with Disabilities Act: What You Need to Know Amid the COVID-19 Crisis - 9/24 The program will be on demand for CLE Credit. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. 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URL: From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 09:57:15 2020 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:57:15 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DA55EE1-95D1-49BE-960D-147F0490CDA8@gmail.com> Hi Diana, Are you saying that the codes were spoken out loud during the video? You did not need to use your vision to read them? Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Bianca Moreiras wrote: > > Nice > > Bianca Moreiras > Bianca Moreiras & Associates > 305-986-0905 > www.biancamoreiras.com > > “Simple solutions for complex issues. That will propel you to great leadership. Don’t overthink, overwork, or over create things. Use your energy to motivate, stimulate and elevate others.” — Bianca Moreiras > > Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos > >>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Diana1 wrote: >>> >>  >> Hello Laura and greetings to all! >> >> Motivated by all email messages, I decided to register for this ethics class and am very happy I did. >> I am partial, have some useable sight, but use JAWSL. >> >> Just for information purposes, the codes were spoken by the facilitator of the DCBar. I just submitted my questions and codes. >> >> It was very interesting, well paced and we had active feedback from the attendees, including myself. Informative, enjoyable and gave me a new positive perspective on ethics. >> >> I am glad, even proud to share with you that most of my answers to the quizzes were right on. This entices me to keep pursuing my legal education in this country and persevere against all odds. >> >> In time, I’d like to observe that the ABA website feels more difficult to navigate for me than the DCBar. Because I’m in the Greater DC area, I will be looking forward to other webinars. >> >> Laura, if you need help with the codes, I have them. >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Diana Oliveira >> NFBV Potomac Chapter, member >> NFBF Legislative Committee, member >> NABS, member >> NFB Employment Committee, member >> (305) 988-2713 >> dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com >> >> From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:43 AM >> To: Angela Matney >> Cc: Laura Wolk; Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> >> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. This is just so disheartening and a classic example of what happens when universal design is not implemented from the ground up. I still have a month before starting my new job, so I just may make this my new hill to die on. >> >> Laura >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Angela Matney wrote: >> > >> >  >> > Hi Laura, >> > >> > I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. >> > >> > While this process was disconcerting and not particularly well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about this. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Angie >> > >> > SUHANA RAI >> > Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education >> > District of Columbia Bar >> > 901 4th Street, NW >> > Washington, DC 20001 >> > (: 202.737.4700 x2789 >> > 8: srai at dcbar.org >> > www.dcbar.org >> > >> > >> > >> > Angela Matney, CIPP/US >> > Attorney at Law >> > >> > >> > Loeb and Loeb LLP >> > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 >> > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com >> > Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com >> > >> > >> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. >> > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Laura Wolk >> > Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> > >> > >> > >> > All, >> > >> > I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. >> > I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken >> > the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, >> > only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that >> > display on the screen during the course. How have people handled >> > this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to >> > the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond >> > given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course >> > before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any >> > assistance is gratefully appreciatted. >> > >> > Best, >> > Laura >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dianaoliveira58%40gmail.com >> From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu Aug 27 18:11:43 2020 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:11:43 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Diana, We are talking about two different courses. The mandatory ethics course for new admittees is not generally available. I just took it this morning and can confirm that no codes are spoken out loud. I am in the process of communicating with the bar though, so hopefully it will be fixed soon. Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 27, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Diana1 wrote: > >  > Hi Laura, > > Yes, that’s correct. > Each code was spelled out loud by the facilitator, twice, and he even said M as in Mary, B as in boy. The numbers were also repeated along with the letters. > > Let me know if I can be of help. > > Best, > > > Diana Oliveira > NFBV Potomac Chapter, member > NFBF Legislative Committee, member > NABS, member > NFB Employment Committee, member > (305) 988-2713 > dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com > > From: Laura Wolk > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:57 AM > To: Bianca Moreiras > Cc: Diana1; Blind Law Mailing List; Angela Matney > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course > > Hi Diana, > > Are you saying that the codes were spoken out loud during the video? You did not need to use your vision to read them? > > Laura > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Bianca Moreiras wrote: > > Nice > > Bianca Moreiras > Bianca Moreiras & Associates > 305-986-0905 > www.biancamoreiras.com > > “Simple solutions for complex issues. That will propel you to great leadership. Don’t overthink, overwork, or over create things. Use your energy to motivate, stimulate and elevate others.” — Bianca Moreiras > > > Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos > > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Diana1 wrote: > >  > Hello Laura and greetings to all! > > Motivated by all email messages, I decided to register for this ethics class and am very happy I did. > I am partial, have some useable sight, but use JAWSL. > > Just for information purposes, the codes were spoken by the facilitator of the DCBar. I just submitted my questions and codes. > > It was very interesting, well paced and we had active feedback from the attendees, including myself. Informative, enjoyable and gave me a new positive perspective on ethics. > > I am glad, even proud to share with you that most of my answers to the quizzes were right on. This entices me to keep pursuing my legal education in this country and persevere against all odds. > > In time, I’d like to observe that the ABA website feels more difficult to navigate for me than the DCBar. Because I’m in the Greater DC area, I will be looking forward to other webinars. > > Laura, if you need help with the codes, I have them. > > Best regards, > > > Diana Oliveira > NFBV Potomac Chapter, member > NFBF Legislative Committee, member > NABS, member > NFB Employment Committee, member > (305) 988-2713 > dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com > > From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:43 AM > To: Angela Matney > Cc: Laura Wolk; Blind Law Mailing List > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course > > Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. This is just so disheartening and a classic example of what happens when universal design is not implemented from the ground up. I still have a month before starting my new job, so I just may make this my new hill to die on. > > Laura > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Angela Matney wrote: > > > >  > > Hi Laura, > > > > I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. > > > > While this process was disconcerting and not particularly well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about this. > > > > Best, > > > > Angie > > > > SUHANA RAI > > Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education > > District of Columbia Bar > > 901 4th Street, NW > > Washington, DC 20001 > > (: 202.737.4700 x2789 > > 8: srai at dcbar.org > > www.dcbar.org > > > > > > > > Angela Matney, CIPP/US > > Attorney at Law > > > > > > Loeb and Loeb LLP > > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 > > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com > > Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. > > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Laura Wolk > > Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course > > > > > > > > All, > > > > I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. > > I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken > > the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, > > only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that > > display on the screen during the course. How have people handled > > this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to > > the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond > > given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course > > before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any > > assistance is gratefully appreciatted. > > > > Best, > > Laura > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dianaoliveira58%40gmail.com > > From sanho817 at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 15:37:16 2020 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:37:16 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Scans of Documents Message-ID: <21B53941-9ABD-4251-AF91-6B1C15D08A65@gmail.com> All, Good morning. Both the place where I work as well as the court's database both use graphical scans of documents. I have K1000, but many scans, presumably handwriting, are still a mess. What are your preferred solutions to the "bad scan" problem? Sanho From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Mon Aug 31 16:02:20 2020 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:02:20 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Scans of Documents In-Reply-To: <21B53941-9ABD-4251-AF91-6B1C15D08A65@gmail.com> References: <21B53941-9ABD-4251-AF91-6B1C15D08A65@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20200831.160220.804.3@[192.168.1.130]> You might try Google Tesseract. There are supposed to be algorithms in that package designed to OCR handwriting. I can not vouch for its effectiveness, however; I'm only repeating something i've heard. For what it's worth. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:37:16 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Scans of Documents > All, > > Good morning. Both the place where I work as well as the court's database both use graphical scans of documents. I have K1000, but many scans, presumably handwriting, are still a mess. What are your preferred solutions to the "bad scan" problem? > > Sanho > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net > From laura.wolk at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 21:32:29 2020 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:32:29 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All, I have been in touch with some folks at the DC bar. They have promised to, within the week, update the course description page, welcome emails, and accommodations descriptions to make it apparent that visual codes are embedded within the video so that blind course takers are not caught off guard. They will also standardize their method for handling such accommodation requests. Not surprisingly, the most difficult part will be to actually fix the issue, because, as we all know, it's harder to retrofit accessibility than to just implement it from the ground up. But they have expressed a commitment to fixing it. I, of course, will make sure to follow up, but it's a very encouraging message. If anyone is planning on or is in the process of waiving in, though, please be in touch, as your experience will be the only way to verify that the issue has been fixed. Thanks, Laura On 8/27/20, Laura Wolk wrote: > Hi Diana, > We are talking about two different courses. The mandatory ethics course for > new admittees is not generally available. I just took it this morning and > can confirm that no codes are spoken out loud. I am in the process of > communicating with the bar though, so hopefully it will be fixed soon. > > Laura > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 27, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Diana1 wrote: >> >>  >> Hi Laura, >> >> Yes, that’s correct. >> Each code was spelled out loud by the facilitator, twice, and he even said >> M as in Mary, B as in boy. The numbers were also repeated along with the >> letters. >> >> Let me know if I can be of help. >> >> Best, >> >> >> Diana Oliveira >> NFBV Potomac Chapter, member >> NFBF Legislative Committee, member >> NABS, member >> NFB Employment Committee, member >> (305) 988-2713 >> dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com >> >> From: Laura Wolk >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:57 AM >> To: Bianca Moreiras >> Cc: Diana1; Blind Law Mailing List; Angela Matney >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> >> Hi Diana, >> >> Are you saying that the codes were spoken out loud during the video? You >> did not need to use your vision to read them? >> >> Laura >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Bianca Moreiras >> wrote: >> >> Nice >> >> Bianca Moreiras >> Bianca Moreiras & Associates >> 305-986-0905 >> www.biancamoreiras.com >> >> “Simple solutions for complex issues. That will propel you to great >> leadership. Don’t overthink, overwork, or over create things. Use your >> energy to motivate, stimulate and elevate others.” — Bianca Moreiras >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Diana1 wrote: >> >>  >> Hello Laura and greetings to all! >> >> Motivated by all email messages, I decided to register for this ethics >> class and am very happy I did. >> I am partial, have some useable sight, but use JAWSL. >> >> Just for information purposes, the codes were spoken by the facilitator of >> the DCBar. I just submitted my questions and codes. >> >> It was very interesting, well paced and we had active feedback from the >> attendees, including myself. Informative, enjoyable and gave me a new >> positive perspective on ethics. >> >> I am glad, even proud to share with you that most of my answers to the >> quizzes were right on. This entices me to keep pursuing my legal education >> in this country and persevere against all odds. >> >> In time, I’d like to observe that the ABA website feels more difficult to >> navigate for me than the DCBar. Because I’m in the Greater DC area, I will >> be looking forward to other webinars. >> >> Laura, if you need help with the codes, I have them. >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Diana Oliveira >> NFBV Potomac Chapter, member >> NFBF Legislative Committee, member >> NABS, member >> NFB Employment Committee, member >> (305) 988-2713 >> dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com >> >> From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:43 AM >> To: Angela Matney >> Cc: Laura Wolk; Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> >> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. This is just so disheartening >> and a classic example of what happens when universal design is not >> implemented from the ground up. I still have a month before starting my >> new job, so I just may make this my new hill to die on. >> >> Laura >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Angela Matney wrote: >> > >> >  >> > Hi Laura, >> > >> > I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one of >> > the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its current >> > format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are imbedded in the >> > video and are therefore completely inaccessible to screen readers. I was >> > instructed to write short sentences summarizing each section of the >> > course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. >> > >> > While this process was disconcerting and not particularly >> > well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive and >> > quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, feel >> > free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions about >> > this. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Angie >> > >> > SUHANA RAI >> > Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education >> > District of Columbia Bar >> > 901 4th Street, NW >> > Washington, DC 20001 >> > (: 202.737.4700 x2789 >> > 8: srai at dcbar.org >> > www.dcbar.org >> > >> > >> > >> > Angela Matney, CIPP/US >> > Attorney at Law >> > >> > >> > Loeb and Loeb LLP >> > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 >> > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | E-mail:amatney at loeb.com >> > Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | Nashville | Washington, DC | San >> > Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | www.loeb.com >> > >> > >> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, >> > files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain >> > confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the >> > intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the >> > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> > copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or >> > attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have >> > received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the >> > sender. Please destroy the original transmission and its attachments >> > without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. >> > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via >> > BlindLaw >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Laura Wolk >> > Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> > >> > >> > >> > All, >> > >> > I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. >> > I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has taken >> > the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I learned, >> > only after registering, that I am to write down five random codes that >> > display on the screen during the course. How have people handled >> > this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to reach out to >> > the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are slow to respond >> > given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to complete the course >> > before incurring outrageous additional boondoggle fees. any >> > assistance is gratefully appreciatted. >> > >> > Best, >> > Laura >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> > BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loeb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dianaoliveira58%40gmail.com >> >> > From deepa.goraya at gmail.com Mon Aug 31 21:37:11 2020 From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:37:11 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011601d67fde$e3d67bc0$ab837340$@gmail.com> That's great news! It should have been done from the beginning but thanks for advocating for this now. Deepa Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:32 PM To: Diana1 Cc: Laura Wolk ; blindlaw at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course All, I have been in touch with some folks at the DC bar. They have promised to, within the week, update the course description page, welcome emails, and accommodations descriptions to make it apparent that visual codes are embedded within the video so that blind course takers are not caught off guard. They will also standardize their method for handling such accommodation requests. Not surprisingly, the most difficult part will be to actually fix the issue, because, as we all know, it's harder to retrofit accessibility than to just implement it from the ground up. But they have expressed a commitment to fixing it. I, of course, will make sure to follow up, but it's a very encouraging message. If anyone is planning on or is in the process of waiving in, though, please be in touch, as your experience will be the only way to verify that the issue has been fixed. Thanks, Laura On 8/27/20, Laura Wolk wrote: > Hi Diana, > We are talking about two different courses. The mandatory ethics > course for new admittees is not generally available. I just took it > this morning and can confirm that no codes are spoken out loud. I am > in the process of communicating with the bar though, so hopefully it will be fixed soon. > > Laura > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 27, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Diana1 wrote: >> >>  >> Hi Laura, >> >> Yes, that’s correct. >> Each code was spelled out loud by the facilitator, twice, and he even >> said M as in Mary, B as in boy. The numbers were also repeated along >> with the letters. >> >> Let me know if I can be of help. >> >> Best, >> >> >> Diana Oliveira >> NFBV Potomac Chapter, member >> NFBF Legislative Committee, member >> NABS, member >> NFB Employment Committee, member >> (305) 988-2713 >> dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com >> >> From: Laura Wolk >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:57 AM >> To: Bianca Moreiras >> Cc: Diana1; Blind Law Mailing List; Angela Matney >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> >> Hi Diana, >> >> Are you saying that the codes were spoken out loud during the video? >> You did not need to use your vision to read them? >> >> Laura >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Bianca Moreiras >> >> wrote: >> >> Nice >> >> Bianca Moreiras >> Bianca Moreiras & Associates >> 305-986-0905 >> www.biancamoreiras.com >> >> “Simple solutions for complex issues. That will propel you to great >> leadership. Don’t overthink, overwork, or over create things. Use >> your energy to motivate, stimulate and elevate others.” — Bianca >> Moreiras >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Diana1 wrote: >> >>  >> Hello Laura and greetings to all! >> >> Motivated by all email messages, I decided to register for this >> ethics class and am very happy I did. >> I am partial, have some useable sight, but use JAWSL. >> >> Just for information purposes, the codes were spoken by the >> facilitator of the DCBar. I just submitted my questions and codes. >> >> It was very interesting, well paced and we had active feedback from >> the attendees, including myself. Informative, enjoyable and gave me a >> new positive perspective on ethics. >> >> I am glad, even proud to share with you that most of my answers to >> the quizzes were right on. This entices me to keep pursuing my legal >> education in this country and persevere against all odds. >> >> In time, I’d like to observe that the ABA website feels more >> difficult to navigate for me than the DCBar. Because I’m in the >> Greater DC area, I will be looking forward to other webinars. >> >> Laura, if you need help with the codes, I have them. >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Diana Oliveira >> NFBV Potomac Chapter, member >> NFBF Legislative Committee, member >> NABS, member >> NFB Employment Committee, member >> (305) 988-2713 >> dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com >> >> From: Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:43 AM >> To: Angela Matney >> Cc: Laura Wolk; Blind Law Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> >> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. This is just so >> disheartening and a classic example of what happens when universal >> design is not implemented from the ground up. I still have a month >> before starting my new job, so I just may make this my new hill to die on. >> >> Laura >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Aug 25, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Angela Matney wrote: >> > >> >  >> > Hi Laura, >> > >> > I took this course in September/October of last year, and I was one >> > of the first (if not the very first) to take the course in its >> > current format with a screen reader. The codes you mention are >> > imbedded in the video and are therefore completely inaccessible to >> > screen readers. I was instructed to write short sentences >> > summarizing each section of the course and email them to the appropriate person at the DC Bar. >> > >> > While this process was disconcerting and not particularly >> > well-documented, the individual I worked with was very responsive >> > and quite helpful. I’m pasting her contact information below. Also, >> > feel free to get in touch privately if you have any other questions >> > about this. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Angie >> > >> > SUHANA RAI >> > Sr. Programs Attorney, Continuing Legal Education District of >> > Columbia Bar >> > 901 4th Street, NW >> > Washington, DC 20001 >> > (: 202.737.4700 x2789 >> > 8: srai at dcbar.org >> > www.dcbar.org >> > >> > >> > >> > Angela Matney, CIPP/US >> > Attorney at Law >> > >> > >> > Loeb and Loeb LLP >> > 901 New York Avenue NW, Suite 300 East | Washington, DC 20001 >> > Direct Dial: 202.618.5038 | Fax:202.403.3407 | >> > E-mail:amatney at loeb.com Los Angeles | New York | Chicago | >> > Nashville | Washington, DC | San Francisco | Beijing | Hong Kong | >> > www.loeb.com >> > >> > >> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any >> > documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may >> > contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you >> > are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for >> > delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified >> > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the >> > information contained in or attached to this transmission is >> > STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in >> > error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the >> > original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, Loeb & Loeb LLP. >> > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Laura >> > Wolk via BlindLaw >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:01 AM >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Laura Wolk >> > Subject: [blindLaw] accessibility of DC's mandatory ethics course >> > >> > >> > >> > All, >> > >> > I just registered for DC's mandatory ethics course for new admittees. >> > I would love to speak with someone with no usable vision who has >> > taken the course recently and can speak to its accessibility. I >> > learned, only after registering, that I am to write down five >> > random codes that display on the screen during the course. How have >> > people handled this? And is hte ocurse itself accessible? I plan to >> > reach out to the DC bar, but my experience has been that people are >> > slow to respond given the pandemic, and I only have 14 days to >> > complete the course before incurring outrageous additional >> > boondoggle fees. any assistance is gratefully appreciatted. >> > >> > Best, >> > Laura >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> > for >> > BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amatney%40loe >> > b.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dianaoliveira58 >> %40gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/deepa.goraya%40gmail.com