[blindLaw] OCR Question

Shannon Dillon shannonldillon at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 17:56:39 UTC 2020


Is Kurzweil better at scanning tables than OpenBook? I'm having to go
through a lot of tabular data right now and my OpenBook keeps
crashing.
Thanks.



On 1/22/20, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Thank you, I recently purchased voice dream reader and scanner based on
> discussion from this group. I haven’t had a reason to spend a lot of time
> using either app yet. That said, it was not immediately apparent to me how
> voice dream reader was different from the Books app which is native to my
> iPhone. Maybe it’s just because I haven’t really put it through its paces.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Maura Kutnyak  MPA.
> 716-563-9882
>
>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> K1000 and OpenBook both have document markup capabilities that make them
>> good study tools. I always thought K1000 seemed a little more polished,
>> but OpenBook is snappier when working with a document camera, which I
>> think was why vocational rehabilitation agencies fell in love with it.
>>
>> If you want mobile access to your textbooks, I’d use VoiceDream Reader. If
>> the PDF has text, the app can extract it with heading structure intact. If
>> it’s an imaged-based PDF you could use an OCR app to convert it.
>> Theoretically, I think you could use VoiceDream Scanner to process it, but
>> but don’t hold me to that. K1000 can produce any number of formats that
>> VoiceDream can read, including ePub.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:05 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am anticipating a similar bout of a valuation and subsequent tech
>>> purchase as I prepare for law school.  does anyone know if K 1000 has a
>>> companion app which can be used on tablets or smart phones? I’m thinking
>>> it would be nice to be able to have textbooks loaded and portable.
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Maura Kutnyak  MPA.
>>> 716-563-9882
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 9:53 AM, James via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In K1000, you can hit a single key to scan a page or a key sequence for
>>>> repeated scanning. You can also do tons of markup, create outlines, add
>>>> marginal notes, etc. I frequently opened my PDF textbooks in K1000 as
>>>> soon as I got them. It is not as easy to perform all of these functions
>>>> in Word, not to mention that Word has a tendency to crash or freeze up
>>>> when handling large files with an abundance of extraneous formatting. I
>>>> can't speak to OpenBook, since I have never used it. I would strongly
>>>> suggest trying both programs before being pushed into choosing one. But
>>>> if that is not possible, consider using whichever program you end up
>>>> getting to read textbooks you receive in electronic format and not just
>>>> for scanning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/22/2020 9:29 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. What is the benefit of OpenBook or K1000 above something
>>>>> like FineReader or Omnipage? My plan, such as there is one, is to
>>>>> simply drop the text into a Word document, anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/21/20, Aser Tolentino via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I prefer working with K1000 myself, and yes, OpenBook hasn’t been
>>>>>> updated in
>>>>>> something like a decade. TO be fair, K1000 hasn’t seen an update in
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> half a decade. FineReader and OmniPage are both perfectly serviceable
>>>>>> options that cost half as much if that and give you equally usable OCR
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you plan on using the finished product in a different application
>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>> One advantage OpenBook has is that you can disable editing and just
>>>>>> arrow
>>>>>> around the document without fear of adding or modifying the scanned
>>>>>> text.
>>>>>> Once OCR has completed, K1000 drops you in something like a word
>>>>>> processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:54 AM, rjaquiss via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Sanho:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Unless it has been recently updated, OpenBook is an older program.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would look at Kurzweil K1000 or Abby FineReader. The K1000 software
>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>> nice user interface designed for the blind. It is also more
>>>>>>> expensive. I
>>>>>>> haven't tried FineReader, but understand it is accessible. It is
>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>> less expensive than K1000. Kurzweil uses the FineReader and I think
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Omnipage scanning engine. You can download OpenBook from Freedom
>>>>>>> Scientific
>>>>>>> and give it a try for free. The last I knew, you could also get a CD
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Kurzweil which will run for 30 days. Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>> Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:17 AM
>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List
>>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart
>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] OCR Question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VocRehab is purchasing me an OCR program. They recommend OpenBook.
>>>>>>> Can
>>>>>>> someone tell me the pros and cons of different OCR technologies, and
>>>>>>> which you'd recommend for legal work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>
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