[blindLaw] reading comments in JAWS

Tue Jul 14 19:31:18 UTC 2020

The keystroke control+shift+apostrophe was the one that presented the problem of comments being abridged. Windows key + semicolon was offered as the work around.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:26 PM
To: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Cc: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>; tim at timeldermusic.com
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] reading comments in JAWS

[EXTERNAL]

I thought Shannon said that wasn't working for her and they were being cut off.

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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com> wrote:
>
> Windows key + ;. This brings up the virtual viewer for Word, allowing you to select comments, footnotes, endnotes, and revisions to be displayed as a simple linked text format in a separate JAWS pane. I do not recommend it for revisions, but it is helpful for comments and footnotes.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk 
> via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:04 PM
> To: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>; Blind Law Mailing List 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>; tim at timeldermusic.com
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] reading comments in JAWS
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Hi Shannon,
>
> What was the keystroke?  Sorry if I missed it somewhere in the thread.
>
> Laura
>
>> On 7/13/20, Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I wasn't aware how much Microsoft is really the issue. In the 
>> instance Tai helped me with, there was a keystroke that resolved my problem.
>> Tai knew it, but the tech support person at Freedom Scientific did 
>> not. I am using Office 365, lucky for me.
>>
>> But having just spent an hour figuring out how I can use Skype to 
>> participate in meetings next week for work, I am all on board with 
>> calling out Microsoft for failing to make their products more 
>> accessible. Neither my IT person nor I could get keystrokes provided 
>> in the JAWS help system to work. MY IT person gave me keystrokes that 
>> do work and I will use those.
>>
>> And don't even get me started on SharePoint. It makes me feel like I 
>> never learned to use a computer.
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>> On 7/10/20, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> if there is a resolution, it should be directed toward Microsoft, 
>>> not freedom scientific. I have a lot of words for Microsoft not fit 
>>> for a public list serve. But suffice to say that freedom scientific 
>>> is a lot more hamstrung than I originally understood by whether 
>>> Microsoft is willing to cooperate with them or not. And it seems 
>>> that Microsoft is often not willing to cooperate. I will also ask 
>>> the age old question… Are you using Microsoft 365? Because if the 
>>> answer is no, Microsoft couldn’t care less.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Tim Elder via BlindLaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It makes me wonder if an NFB resolution calling out Freedom 
>>>> Scientific for these shenanigans is in order.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com <rodalcidonis at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 3:40 PM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] reading comments in JAWS
>>>>
>>>> SF would do better if it actually focuses on improvements that 
>>>> would improve accessibility for individuals on the job, and not the 
>>>> nonsensical features that are being released year after year in 
>>>> most cases.
>>>>
>>>> I am not surprised the way you were treated; i have been there, too.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I could not be more helpful.
>>>>
>>>> rod,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 1:33 PM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Shannon Dillon
>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] reading comments in JAWS
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else had issues reading the full text of a long comment 
>>>> in a document?
>>>>
>>>> This morning I used control+shift+apostrophe to bring up my list of 
>>>> comments. The first comment was really long and it would not read 
>>>> the whole thing. When you press enter on the comment, of course it 
>>>> just takes you back into the document. You can see where the 
>>>> comment is in the document but you can't read it there.
>>>>
>>>> I called Freedom Scientific for help and they told me I needed to 
>>>> call Microsoft and tell them. Then they told me to use narrator. I 
>>>> tried using narrator with FS but it didn't work. Then FS tandemed 
>>>> into my computer to try reading the comment and had the same result 
>>>> as I did; he couldn't read the full comment.
>>>>
>>>> I later was able to hear the full comment with 
>>>> alt+shift+apostrophe, but I can't read the text of the comment. I 
>>>> press the keystroke and it's read aloud, but it is a long and 
>>>> complicated comment so I want to be able to read it with the Braille display.
>>>>
>>>> FS said that it's because my computer is set to update 
>>>> semi-annually rather than monthly, and that microsoft makes so many 
>>>> changes that my computer has to be set to update monthly. I put in 
>>>> a ticket with my local IT, but I can tell you they run updates all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else had this issue?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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