From davant1958 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 03:05:08 2020
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:05:08 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: ABA Annual Meeting Developments
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Hello all,

If you have never had an opportunity to learn about the ABA and all that it
offers, here is a wonderful opportunity to attend the annual meeting
virtually.

Please see below.

 

 

Denise R. Avant, Esq.

President,

National Federation of the Blind of Illinois

773-991-8050

Live the life you want.

 

For more information about NFBI,

Go to www.nfbofillinois.org

 

From: ABA President Judy Perry Martinez <abapresident at americanbar.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 5:55 PM
To: davant1958 at GMAIL.COM
Subject: ABA Annual Meeting Developments

 






  

 


Dear colleague, I hope you are healthy and well. The ABA Annual Meeting is
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Dear colleague,

I hope you are healthy and well.

The ABA Annual Meeting is an event I look forward to attending every year.
This will be my 36th. The Annual Meeting enables us to reconnect with
friends, meet new ones, and continue our efforts to improve our profession
and strive for equal justice for all under the rule of law.

Yet this year is different for all of us. Due to evolving pandemic-related
developments, the ABA Board of Governors voted today to transition the 2020
Annual Meeting to an online virtual meeting. While we will not meet in
person this summer in Chicago, I am pleased that we will nonetheless gather
together to continue our important work.

We identified, analyzed, and considered the impact of various factors that
would influence the decision to hold an in-person meeting in Chicago,
starting with the current State of Illinois shelter-in-place order through
May 30. Other factors include air travel limitations and self-quarantine
orders for travelers along with social distancing guidelines that are
expected to remain in place throughout the summer.

Of course, safety of members, ABA staff, and their families and colleagues
were paramount as we analyzed the ability to meet in person. You can find
more information about the Board of Governors decision on the
<https://www.americanbar.org/groups/departments_offices/meetings_travel_dept
/annual-meeting> Annual Meeting website, under Q&A.

The challenges to our traditional Annual Meeting brought on by the pandemic
also have triggered creative and innovative ideas from members and staff. We
invite all of you to join us for the
<https://www.americanbar.org/groups/departments_offices/meetings_travel_dept
/annual-meeting> 2020 ABA Virtual Annual Meeting. For the first time in ABA
history, we are offering this entire capstone event as a complimentary
member benefit, which will enable even more lawyers to participate, perhaps
some for the first time.

The virtual Annual Meeting will offer the highest quality programming with a
revised schedule to accommodate members’ home locations and time. Events
will include governance and business meetings, CLE Showcase programs,
virtual networking opportunities, the General Assembly with the presentation
of the ABA Medal, and the House of Delegates. Please check our
<https://www.americanbar.org/groups/departments_offices/meetings_travel_dept
/annual-meeting> Annual Meeting website for the latest information.

Stay well. And know that your ABA is here for you with a fresh, new approach
to our always informative and inspiring Annual Meeting that so many of us
and our families look forward to each summer.


 
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri May  1 15:41:51 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 09:41:51 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] NABL Happy Hour Tomorrow, Saturday, May 2nd,
 at 7:00 pm Eastern
Message-ID: <009b01d61fcf$0940c7a0$1bc256e0$@labarrelaw.com>

Greetings everyone, we will be holding our second NABL virtual happy hour
tomorrow at 7:00  pm Eastern.  Please bring  your virtual presence and
beverage of choice and join your fellow NABL colleagues.  We can take
advantage of this opportunity to discuss what you would like to see out of
NABL during this pandemic and what you would like to see from our division
during our virtual 2020 Annual Meeting which will be held on July 16th in
conjunction with the NFB Convention.  I also welcome your input online and
off line, regardless of the happy hour.  Hope to speak with many of you
tomorrow, and I want to thank Tai for once again handling the logistics of
the Zoom conference!!

 

Cheers!!

 

Scott

 

303 520-3584, Mobile

slabarre at labarrelaw.com 

 

Tai Tomasi is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: NABL Happy Hour

Time: May 2, 2020 06:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada)

 

Join Zoom Meeting

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From davant1958 at gmail.com  Fri May  1 20:12:05 2020
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 15:12:05 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Help Bar Associations Get Federal Emergency Funds in
 Next Aid Package
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Hello,

FYI.

The below message not only applies to the ABA, but also to your local and
state bars. 

 

 

Denise R. Avant, Esq.

President,

National Federation of the Blind of Illinois

773-991-8050

Live the life you want.

 

For more information about NFBI,

Go to www.nfbofillinois.org

 

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Behalf Of ABA President
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 1:33 PM
To: HOD at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG
Subject: Help Bar Associations Get Federal Emergency Funds in Next Aid
Package

 

To: ABA House of Delegates and Entity Chairs 

 

Dear ABA Leader,

 

We need your help. Congress is continuing to work on economic relief
packages to help ease the burdens on businesses and individuals affected by
the pandemic. In recent bills, Congress has included only limited assistance
for 501(c)(6) organizations, including bar associations, and the relief
offered has high eligibility thresholds that make it unhelpful to us. As
nonprofit organizations with no profit margins to cushion the impact of
recent revenue losses, bar associations need relief too so that we have the
resources and staffing necessary to continue our public service activities
when they are needed most throughout this emergency.

 

Please join us in urging Congress to add more meaningful relief for
501(c)(6) organizations like the American Bar Association in its next bill.
We need your help to educate Congress on all the critical services and
programs bar associations are doing now to serve the public-providing Free
Legal Answers, managing pro bono services, increasing training to help
advise businesses and individual clients facing unprecedented legal issues,
and many more.

 

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Please forward this message to your colleagues who you know will stand for
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Fri May  1 20:47:16 2020
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 20:47:16 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] : SSA Job Opening Seattle
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Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:24 AM
To: 'fangseattle at googlegroups.com' <fangseattle at googlegroups.com>
Subject: [fangs] SSA Job Opening

FANGS Members –

The Social Security Administration Office of the General Counsel is hiring! We have an opening for a fraud prosecutor in Seattle, Washington (see attached). The position opened today and will close on May 22.

We also may soon have ability to hire civil attorneys, per the second attachment, and welcome you to send us your materials if you are interested.

Thanks, and I hope you are all well.

Nicole Jabaily
Supervisory Attorney
Office of the General Counsel, Region X
Social Security Administration
206-615-3702
nicole.jabaily at ssa.gov<mailto:nicole.jabaily at ssa.gov>

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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Sat May  2 22:51:06 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 16:51:06 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW:  NABL Happy Hour Tomorrow, Saturday, May 2nd,
 at 7:00 pm Eastern
In-Reply-To: <009b01d61fcf$0940c7a0$1bc256e0$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <009b01d61fcf$0940c7a0$1bc256e0$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <000e01d620d4$2ab68a90$80239fb0$@labarrelaw.com>

Our happy hour starts in about ten minutes.

Cheers!!
Scott

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Subject: [blindLaw] NABL Happy Hour Tomorrow, Saturday, May 2nd, at 7:00 pm
Eastern

Greetings everyone, we will be holding our second NABL virtual happy hour
tomorrow at 7:00  pm Eastern.  Please bring  your virtual presence and
beverage of choice and join your fellow NABL colleagues.  We can take
advantage of this opportunity to discuss what you would like to see out of
NABL during this pandemic and what you would like to see from our division
during our virtual 2020 Annual Meeting which will be held on July 16th in
conjunction with the NFB Convention.  I also welcome your input online and
off line, regardless of the happy hour.  Hope to speak with many of you
tomorrow, and I want to thank Tai for once again handling the logistics of
the Zoom conference!!

 

Cheers!!

 

Scott

 

303 520-3584, Mobile

slabarre at labarrelaw.com 

 

Tai Tomasi is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: NABL Happy Hour

Time: May 2, 2020 06:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada)

 

Join Zoom Meeting

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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 00:42:31 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:42:31 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] NABL Happy Hour, June 6
Message-ID: <046901d620e3$babea690$303bf3b0$@gmail.com>

Good evening, all! Our second virtual National Association of Blind Lawyers
happy hour was a success! It was so nice catching up with several of you
this evening!

 

Information for our next NABL happy hour is pasted below. We look forward to
talking with many of you on June 6! For those of you who don't use the Zoom
apps on your computer or smartphone, please note that you can dial in using
the numbers listed below.

 

Tai Tomasi is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: NABL Happy Hour

Time: Jun 6, 2020 06:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada)

 

Join Zoom Meeting

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From rmarrowood12 at me.com  Sun May  3 19:20:22 2020
From: rmarrowood12 at me.com (Rebecca Arrowood)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 14:20:22 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Informational interviews
Message-ID: <52CDBBF4-32A0-47BB-8DB3-AEF8B81F49A1@me.com>

Good afternoon,

As I continue to research and consider law school, I am interested in interviewing individuals who are currently practicing. Please let me know if you would be willing to have a conversation to discuss your current position and practice area.

Thanks,
Rebecca Arrowood
Sent from my iPhone



From rfarber at jw.com  Sun May  3 21:05:50 2020
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 21:05:50 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Informational interviews
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You can contact me off-list at 832-588-3207.

Randy Farber

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As I continue to research and consider law school, I am interested in interviewing individuals who are currently practicing. Please let me know if you would be willing to have a conversation to discuss your current position and practice area.

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From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Tue May  5 16:48:16 2020
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:48:16 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
Message-ID: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of
files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all
run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my
assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot
read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS
won't read it.

Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and
because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color,
etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I
just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through
each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how
she should make it accessible.

Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have
NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just
to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.

Shannon

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From howardadelsberg at gmail.com  Tue May  5 16:52:42 2020
From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 12:52:42 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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I have both



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On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 12:49 PM Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS
> won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color,
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they
> want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
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From rmarrowood12 at me.com  Tue May  5 16:53:54 2020
From: rmarrowood12 at me.com (rmarrowood12 at me.com)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:53:54 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Informational interviews
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Hi Randy,

Can I call you this evening?


Thank you, 
Rebecca Arrowood
E: rmarrowood12 at me.com

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You can contact me off-list at 832-588-3207.

Randy Farber

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Good afternoon,

As I continue to research and consider law school, I am interested in
interviewing individuals who are currently practicing. Please let me know if
you would be willing to have a conversation to discuss your current position
and practice area.

Thanks,
Rebecca Arrowood
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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 16:56:06 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:56:06 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.

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Hi,

Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.

Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how she should make it accessible.

Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.

Shannon

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From shannonldillon at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:07:14 2020
From: shannonldillon at gmail.com (Shannon Dillon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 10:07:14 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a
documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one
that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how
that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on
your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you
have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me
specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical
assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it for
> you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of files
> to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all run
> together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my assistant if
> she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot read, she says NVDA
> reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and because
> I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, etc. But for
> this particular project, I don't need track changes. I just need to read a
> ton of files and I don't have time to go through each one to tell my
> assistant why it is or is not accessible and how she should make it
> accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have NVDA
> and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just to read
> these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends
> who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
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friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they
want.
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From howardadelsberg at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:11:46 2020
From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:11:46 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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I have both, and i have NVDA free. I do not know if there is a technical
person to call. did you check their website?



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On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:08 PM Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a
> documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one
> that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how
> that goes with investigations.
>
> I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on
> your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you
> have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me
> specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical
> assistance.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Shannon
>
> On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not
> > confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it for
> > you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon
> Dillon via
> > BlindLaw
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> > To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of
> files
> > to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all run
> > together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my assistant if
> > she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot read, she says
> NVDA
> > reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
> >
> > Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and
> because
> > I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, etc. But
> for
> > this particular project, I don't need track changes. I just need to read
> a
> > ton of files and I don't have time to go through each one to tell my
> > assistant why it is or is not accessible and how she should make it
> > accessible.
> >
> > Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have
> NVDA
> > and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just to read
> > these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > --
> > SHANNON L. DILLON
> > Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > of California
> > The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and
> friends
> > who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> > Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> > www.nfbcal.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BlindLaw mailing list
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>
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they
> want.
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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:17:55 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 12:17:55 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>
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I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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of California
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Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue May  5 17:24:55 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 11:24:55 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] Happy Giving Tuesday
Message-ID: <000a01d62302$186fb890$494f29b0$@labarrelaw.com>

Hey everyone!

 

I suspect that everyone's email inbox is getting bombarded like mine with
requests to donate because it is giving Tuesday.  Regardless, I am asking
all of our great lawyers, law students, paralegals, and fans of NABL to
consider giving a gift to the NFB on this Giving Tuesday.  Any amount is
appreciated, especially today.  The Gibney Foundation is matching all gifts.
This is obviously a great force multiplier.  Please go to:

www.nfb.org/donate <http://www.nfb.org/donate> 

 

When I made my contribution this morning, it was easy, accessible, and
quick.  I thank you in advance for anything you can do to support the
Federation which makes this division and list serve possible.

 

Cheers!!

 

Scott 


From ainekc at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:26:15 2020
From: ainekc at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?=C3=81ine_Kelly-Costello?=)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 19:26:15 +0200
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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I'm not in the law field but, I only use NVDA and just wanted to add that for most text-based PDFs that aren't heavy on tables or other formatting, if you just need a general overview I definitely recommend reading them in Chrome. Table formatting dies and probably other formatting too, but there's no lag, finding text works nicely and page breaks are announced. 

> On 5 May 2020, at 19:19, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.
> 
> I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Shannon
> 
>> On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
>> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
>> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
>> Dillon via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
>> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
>> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
>> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
>> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>> 
>> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
>> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
>> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
>> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
>> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
>> she should make it accessible.
>> 
>> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
>> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
>> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>> --
>> SHANNON L. DILLON
>> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> of California
>> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
>> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>> www.nfbcal.org
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> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
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From davant1958 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:26:56 2020
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 12:26:56 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: New COVID-19 Civil Rights Rapid Response Programs!
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Denise R. Avant, Esq.

President,

National Federation of the Blind of Illinois

773-991-8050

Live the life you want.

 

For more information about NFBI,

Go to www.nfbofillinois.org

 

From: ABA Section of Civil Rights and Social Justice <crsj at americanbar.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:54 AM
To: davant1958 at gmail.com
Subject: New COVID-19 Civil Rights Rapid Response Programs!

 


Check out the latest free CRSJ webinars. 

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In response to unprecedented, deep and broad financial devastation from COVID-19 Congress has passed record-breaking economic relief. But enacted aid to state and local governments falls far short of offsetting the intense fiscal pressure governments are facing from collapsing revenues, increased demands on safety net programs, and the direct costs of the COVID-19 response. With an apparent partisan divide, Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has suggested that state governments consider bankruptcy rather than request critical economic resources. Our expert panelists will present data on the state and local fiscal landscape now and projections for the coming years. They will also discuss effective tools federal policymakers can use to address the tremendous financial challenges for state and local governments. Participants will be able to pose questions and panelists will respond to a selected sampling in real time.

 

CART services will be available.

 

PLEASE NOTE: THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR CLE CREDIT.

 

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Wednesday, May 13, 2020

2:00 p.m. - 3:30 p.m. EDT 

 



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The current pandemic has raised numerous questions about the stability of the election process in the immediate future and beyond. The panel will discuss the impact of the COVID-19 crisis on elections, including a description of the extant vote-by-mail states and the recent experiences in Wisconsin and Maryland. The panelists will also discuss possible approaches that might be adapted to the November elections, specifically the feasibility of a mail-only ballot system and/or extensive use of absentee balloting, as well as potential barriers to or downsides of implementing those approaches. 

 

CART services will be available.

 

PLEASE NOTE: THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR CLE CREDIT.

 

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Tue May  5 18:30:28 2020
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:30:28 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

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I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
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Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
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National Federation of the Blind
of California
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Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
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From rfarber at jw.com  Tue May  5 18:48:01 2020
From: rfarber at jw.com (Farber, Randy)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 18:48:01 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Informational interviews
In-Reply-To: <010c01d622fd$c3bb7180$4b325480$@me.com>
References: <52CDBBF4-32A0-47BB-8DB3-AEF8B81F49A1@me.com>
	<cf15ee7b146a41acb20b7fb98d758614@jw.com>
	<010c01d622fd$c3bb7180$4b325480$@me.com>
Message-ID: <c59844f34dc84be5bd36f2ada8719e0b@jw.com>

Yes.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Rebecca Arrowood via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:54 AM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: rmarrowood12 at me.com
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Informational interviews

**RECEIVED FROM EXTERNAL SENDER - USE CAUTION**

Hi Randy,

Can I call you this evening?


Thank you,
Rebecca Arrowood
E: rmarrowood12 at me.com

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Farber, Randy via BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 4:06 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Farber, Randy <rfarber at jw.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Informational interviews

You can contact me off-list at 832-588-3207.

Randy Farber

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 2:20 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Rebecca Arrowood <rmarrowood12 at me.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Informational interviews

**RECEIVED FROM EXTERNAL SENDER - USE CAUTION**

Good afternoon,

As I continue to research and consider law school, I am interested in interviewing individuals who are currently practicing. Please let me know if you would be willing to have a conversation to discuss your current position and practice area.

Thanks,
Rebecca Arrowood
Sent from my iPhone


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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 18:50:24 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:50:24 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>	<01b201d62301$1e59f640$5b0de2c0$@gmail.com>
	<00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>
Message-ID: <020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>

You can download it for free at this link:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
A free users guide is here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

And some paid training modules are here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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National Federation of the Blind
of California
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Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
www.nfbcal.org

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From ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com  Tue May  5 19:33:59 2020
From: ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:33:59 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <CA+VLjcDW4kUwA1=kJZdO_PEHMUTK28iDaHorQ5jA=1L6q0QAPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+VLjcDW4kUwA1=kJZdO_PEHMUTK28iDaHorQ5jA=1L6q0QAPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <038801d62314$20169fc0$6043df40$@com>

Shannon, you can have as many screen readers as you wish on your computer.
It shouldn't be the business of Freedom Scientific or Vispero with regards
to the number of screen readers you have installed.  They didn't pay for any
of them, so there should be no snooping!  

This is why I like Android and Windows; the number of screen readers
available for both are greater than one, and lots of TTS Engines can be
installed on both platforms as well.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



From cjdavis9193 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:53:17 2020
From: cjdavis9193 at gmail.com (Cody Davis)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:53:17 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Recognizing highlighted text in PDF's
Message-ID: <E984B3EC-1E8B-446E-8672-A2E15E8D7377@gmail.com>

Good afternoon, everyone:

I am writing to see if anyone has experience using JAWS to recognize highlighted text in a PDF document. I am able to use certain sound and speech schemes to recognize highlighted text in Word documents and elsewhere, but have not found a way to do so when reading PDF’s in Adobe. Regardless of whether the text in the PDF was highlighted in Adobe or the text was highlighted in a word document that was later converted to a PDF document, JAWS will not recognize highlighted text in PDF’s. The person I contacted at JAWS tech support was unable to figure it out and was not sure if JAWS should be able to recognize highlighted text in Adobe PDF’s. 

If anyone here has experience with reading documents with highlighted text, please let me know. 

Respectfully,
Cody 

From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 20:01:11 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:01:11 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Recognizing highlighted text in PDF's
In-Reply-To: <E984B3EC-1E8B-446E-8672-A2E15E8D7377@gmail.com>
References: <E984B3EC-1E8B-446E-8672-A2E15E8D7377@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <027c01d62317$ed119220$c734b660$@gmail.com>

I am interested to know if there is a way to do this as well. Please let us know what you learn.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cody Davis via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:53 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Cody Davis <cjdavis9193 at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Recognizing highlighted text in PDF's

Good afternoon, everyone:

I am writing to see if anyone has experience using JAWS to recognize highlighted text in a PDF document. I am able to use certain sound and speech schemes to recognize highlighted text in Word documents and elsewhere, but have not found a way to do so when reading PDF’s in Adobe. Regardless of whether the text in the PDF was highlighted in Adobe or the text was highlighted in a word document that was later converted to a PDF document, JAWS will not recognize highlighted text in PDF’s. The person I contacted at JAWS tech support was unable to figure it out and was not sure if JAWS should be able to recognize highlighted text in Adobe PDF’s. 

If anyone here has experience with reading documents with highlighted text, please let me know. 

Respectfully,
Cody 
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Tue May  5 21:06:44 2020
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 16:06:44 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>	<01b201d62301$1e59f640$5b0de2c0$@gmail.com>	<00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>
	<020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01d62321$15397bb0$3fac7310$@sbgaal.com>

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

You can download it for free at this link:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
A free users guide is here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

And some paid training modules are here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
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--
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Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Tue May  5 21:07:06 2020
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 16:07:06 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>	<01b201d62301$1e59f640$5b0de2c0$@gmail.com>	<00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>
	<020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01d62321$227193d0$6754bb70$@sbgaal.com>

What do you use NVDA for primarily?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

You can download it for free at this link:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
A free users guide is here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

And some paid training modules are here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
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>


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National Federation of the Blind
of California
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Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Tue May  5 21:15:49 2020
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:15:49 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <000f01d62321$227193d0$6754bb70$@sbgaal.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>	<01b201d62301$1e59f640$5b0de2c0$@gmail.com>	<00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>	<020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
	<000f01d62321$227193d0$6754bb70$@sbgaal.com>
Message-ID: <03de01d62322$5caf2250$160d66f0$@comcast.net>

To play eurofly


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:07 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

What do you use NVDA for primarily?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

You can download it for free at this link:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
A free users guide is here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

And some paid training modules are here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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> BlindLaw:
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>
>
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> 0gmail.com
>


--
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Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
National Federation of the Blind
of California
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
www.nfbcal.org

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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 21:47:20 2020
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 14:47:20 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
In-Reply-To: <000e01d62321$15397bb0$3fac7310$@sbgaal.com>
References: <CA+JLRL-8GFHvxgSTH31bJQiFQYSgsKuFGzvydFo6kH4jkahPpg@mail.gmail.com>	<019f01d622fe$11d35b30$357a1190$@gmail.com>	<CA+JLRL9NPvZtGgS7JfnmKm4Qhe26bm3f20CGA7SJONUPkhch5w@mail.gmail.com>	<01b201d62301$1e59f640$5b0de2c0$@gmail.com>	<00ab01d6230b$4137b2b0$c3a71810$@sbgaal.com>	<020801d6230e$097316a0$1c5943e0$@gmail.com>
	<000e01d62321$15397bb0$3fac7310$@sbgaal.com>
Message-ID: <006e01d62326$c18003d0$44800b70$@gmail.com>

Yes I have multiple screenreaders on my pc's as well o my mobile devices .i  have  old window eyes  which is no longer developed , JAWS 2019, NVDA latest RC andidate, Supernova 2019 beta as I am a private beta tester. My primary work is in consulting and in accessibility trusted testing and assurance.  

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:07 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

You can download it for free at this link:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
A free users guide is here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

And some paid training modules are here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon <sbg at sbgaal.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
Cc: Tai Tomasi
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer

Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.

I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.

Thanks again.

Shannon

On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
> Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>
> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
> she should make it accessible.
>
> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>
> Shannon
>
> --
> SHANNON L. DILLON
> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> of California
> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
> www.nfbcal.org
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From NSingh at cov.com  Tue May  5 22:02:27 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 22:02:27 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
Message-ID: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

Covington & Burling LLP
One CityCenter, 850 Tenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
www.cov.com



From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:13:51 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:13:51 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
In-Reply-To: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <031401d6232a$754800e0$5fd802a0$@gmail.com>

Tina Ament is a blind assistant U.S. attorney in Alexandria, Virginia.

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Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

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One CityCenter, 850 Tenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:40:26 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:40:26 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
In-Reply-To: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <035701d6232e$2c397880$84ac6980$@gmail.com>

At one time, Mazen Basrawi, a blind attorney, served as Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice. I am not sure if he is still there.


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Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

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Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
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From agtolentino at gmail.com  Tue May  5 22:57:09 2020
From: agtolentino at gmail.com (Aser Tolentino)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 15:57:09 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
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I default to using NVDA when working with the web, Outlook or drafting documents. I switch over to JAWS when reviewing client documents, proofreading or working with some websites. Having multiple screen readers is helpful because for various reasons, some combinations of web browser or application and screen reader work better than others, but not universally so. Often, troubleshooting by opening the same page or document using a different browser or screen reader can mean the difference between night and day as far as usability and accessibility.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2020, at 2:48 PM, gary-melconian via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes I have multiple screenreaders on my pc's as well o my mobile devices .i  have  old window eyes  which is no longer developed , JAWS 2019, NVDA latest RC andidate, Supernova 2019 beta as I am a private beta tester. My primary work is in consulting and in accessibility trusted testing and assurance.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Shannon Brady Geihsler
> 
> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> 1212 Texas Avenue
> Lubbock, Texas 79401
> Office:  (806) 763-3999
> Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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> This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:50 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Cc: Tai Tomasi
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> You can download it for free at this link:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
> A free users guide is here:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?
> 
> And some paid training modules are here:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> 
> Feel free to contact me off list at tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> How does one obtain NVDA and are there any training resources for it you recommend?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Shannon Brady Geihsler
> 
> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> 1212 Texas Avenue
> Lubbock, Texas 79401
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:18 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List'
> Cc: Tai Tomasi
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> I have not had any problems having both on my computer. I am not sure why it would matter to Freedom Scientific whether you have NVDA on your computer. As a practical matter, NVDA does not interfere in any way with the functioning of JAWS. I like having both, as each handles certain materials better than the other. I hope that makes sense.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon Dillon via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:07 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
> 
> Thank you both for responding. And thanks for offering to check out a documents for me, too. I may take you up on that if I can find one that is not confidential. It is an enforcement issues so you know how that goes with investigations.
> 
> I have a follow-up question. Do you have problems with having both on your computer and do you just avoid telling Freedom Scientific you have both on your computer? In the past they have asked me specifically if I have NVDA on my computer when I call for technical assistance.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Shannon
> 
>> On 5/5/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I have both JAWS and NVDA on my computer. If you have one that is not 
>> confidential that does not read well with JAWS, I am happy to test it 
>> for you with NVDA to see if that would resolve your issue.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shannon 
>> Dillon via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:48 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Shannon Dillon <shannonldillon at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Does anyone have NVDA and JAWS on their computer
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone have both NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I have a ton of 
>> files to review that are pdfs. They are not very accessible. Words all 
>> run together without any spaces, for example.  And when I ask my 
>> assistant if she can tell what is accessible, or what I can or cannot 
>> read, she says NVDA reads all the stuff to her but I tell her JAWS won't read it.
>> 
>> Generally, I need JAWS because I need it to manage track changes and 
>> because I know all the editing keystrokes to check for font and color, 
>> etc. But for this particular project, I don't need track changes. I 
>> just need to read a ton of files and I don't have time to go through 
>> each one to tell my assistant why it is or is not accessible and how 
>> she should make it accessible.
>> 
>> Does anyone else have these kinds of issues? And does anyone else have 
>> NVDA and JAWS on their computer? I'm thinking of putting NVDA on just 
>> to read these files and see if they really are accessible with NVDA.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>> --
>> SHANNON L. DILLON
>> Secretary and Legislative Coordinator
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> of California
>> The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and 
>> friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind.
>> Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
>> www.nfbcal.org
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> 
> 
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> of California
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Tue May  5 23:10:37 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:10:37 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
In-Reply-To: <035701d6232e$2c397880$84ac6980$@gmail.com>
References: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
	<035701d6232e$2c397880$84ac6980$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b101d62332$639f4e90$2addebb0$@labarrelaw.com>

Yes, Mazen is still at Justice, but I am not sure which division.  He may in
fact be subscribed to this list.

Best,
Scott 

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via
BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:40 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tai Tomasi <tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

At one time, Mazen Basrawi, a blind attorney, served as Counsel to the
Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice. I
am not sure if he is still there.


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BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:02 PM
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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I
would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the
Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint
at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

Covington & Burling LLP
One CityCenter, 850 Tenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
www.cov.com


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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 04:40:08 2020
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 00:40:08 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
Message-ID: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>

Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac? Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam. However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.  I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac. Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.     

Helga Schreiber 
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 

 

From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 13:15:45 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:15:45 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>
References: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003c01d623a8$74350d00$5c9f2700$@gmail.com>

Helga:

I took a Kaplan course several years ago and it was not very accessible. I hope this has changed. I highly recommend Powerscore and the Powerscore books which you can download from Bookshare.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:40 PM
To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course

Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac? Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam. However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.  I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac. Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.     

Helga Schreiber
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 

 
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From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Wed May  6 13:26:18 2020
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 09:26:18 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <003c01d623a8$74350d00$5c9f2700$@gmail.com>
References: <003c01d623a8$74350d00$5c9f2700$@gmail.com>
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Hi Helga,

I recommend looking into, Khan Academy.  are used it quite a lot during the summer of 2019 preparing for the test in September. It was accessible on my PC using jaws and using my iPhone.  it is completely free and endorsed by the LSAC. It has practice tests and other exercises for learning the rhythm and patterns of the LSAT. I wish you well.

Sincerely,

Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A.
716-563-9882

> On May 6, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Helga:
> 
> I took a Kaplan course several years ago and it was not very accessible. I hope this has changed. I highly recommend Powerscore and the Powerscore books which you can download from Bookshare.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:40 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
> 
> Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac? Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam. However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.  I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac. Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.     
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 
> 
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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May  6 13:36:02 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 13:36:02 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>
References: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9e0b42f4c6754413bfd69bd4f85342c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

My responses are below and designated by the word "response."

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:40 AM
To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course

[EXTERNAL]

Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac?
Response: I did not use Kaplan. I second the recommendation to use the Power Score books. Get all three and complete them. After that, try to complete as many full length exams that LSAC has released under timed conditions.
 


Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam.
Response: Kaplan is not worth using. It is best to work from previously released exams. Most prep courses tend to make up LSAT questions. Previously released exams are the real thing. The Power Score books equip you with the theory and how the LSAT was developed.
 


However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.
Response: I used Power Score, previous exams, and met with a private tutor a few times.
  


I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.
Response: I think I took about a year of serious prep. But I also took it twice, which is fairly common if you want to max your score for law school applications.


    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac.
Response: I prefer using JAWS to review the exam (formatted in Word as a doc or html file), using a reader/scribe to mark the scantron, and then using a Braille note-taker for the logic games.
 


Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.

Helga Schreiber
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max


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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 13:54:32 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 08:54:32 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <9e0b42f4c6754413bfd69bd4f85342c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <ADA3707F-0F45-41DD-93BB-F523D0E8B3BF@gmail.com>
	<9e0b42f4c6754413bfd69bd4f85342c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
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I took a Kaplan course to prepare for my first LSAT, then had to retake it. I do not believe Kaplan is worth it. The best thing I did was get the Powerscore books and hire a tutor. Like Nandini, this is what I recommend.


 -----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course

My responses are below and designated by the word "response."

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:40 AM
To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course

[EXTERNAL]

Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac?
Response: I did not use Kaplan. I second the recommendation to use the Power Score books. Get all three and complete them. After that, try to complete as many full length exams that LSAC has released under timed conditions.
 


Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam.
Response: Kaplan is not worth using. It is best to work from previously released exams. Most prep courses tend to make up LSAT questions. Previously released exams are the real thing. The Power Score books equip you with the theory and how the LSAT was developed.
 


However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.
Response: I used Power Score, previous exams, and met with a private tutor a few times.
  


I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.
Response: I think I took about a year of serious prep. But I also took it twice, which is fairly common if you want to max your score for law school applications.


    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac.
Response: I prefer using JAWS to review the exam (formatted in Word as a doc or html file), using a reader/scribe to mark the scantron, and then using a Braille note-taker for the logic games.
 


Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.

Helga Schreiber
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max


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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May  6 14:08:01 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 14:08:01 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
In-Reply-To: <00b101d62332$639f4e90$2addebb0$@labarrelaw.com>
References: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
	<035701d6232e$2c397880$84ac6980$@gmail.com>
	<00b101d62332$639f4e90$2addebb0$@labarrelaw.com>
Message-ID: <7de7a28e0532406cbcdbc8f756571eb6@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

Thanks, Scott. Do you happen to have direct contact information for Mazen, assuming that he would feel comfortable with your sharing it with me?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 7:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

[EXTERNAL]

Yes, Mazen is still at Justice, but I am not sure which division.  He may in fact be subscribed to this list.

Best,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

At one time, Mazen Basrawi, a blind attorney, served as Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice. I am not sure if he is still there.


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Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

Covington & Burling LLP
One CityCenter, 850 Tenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
www.cov.com


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From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Wed May  6 14:16:39 2020
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:16:39 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <003c01d623a8$74350d00$5c9f2700$@gmail.com>
References: <003c01d623a8$74350d00$5c9f2700$@gmail.com>
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Good morning all,
I was considering using Caplan  for LSAT prep; however, their online content is not accessible in anyway shape or form. I did a lot of trial and error, but I have found that power score is awesome! I have enjoyed using the Bible trio. In addition, their books are on Bookshire, so you will be able to easily get your hands on them.
Good luck!
Lauren

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Helga:
> 
> I took a Kaplan course several years ago and it was not very accessible. I hope this has changed. I highly recommend Powerscore and the Powerscore books which you can download from Bookshare.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:40 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
> 
> Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac? Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam. However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.  I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac. Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.     
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 
> 
> 
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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:19:52 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:52 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice
In-Reply-To: <7de7a28e0532406cbcdbc8f756571eb6@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <8ed9f0f438964866bfebc6898bfca497@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>	<035701d6232e$2c397880$84ac6980$@gmail.com>	<00b101d62332$639f4e90$2addebb0$@labarrelaw.com>
	<7de7a28e0532406cbcdbc8f756571eb6@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <00bc01d623b1$6926c3a0$3b744ae0$@gmail.com>

His email address with DOJ is mazen.basrawi at usdoj.gov

              

-----Original Message-----
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BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:08 AM
To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com; Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

Thanks, Scott. Do you happen to have direct contact information for Mazen,
assuming that he would feel comfortable with your sharing it with me?

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Scott C. LaBarre
via BlindLaw
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

[EXTERNAL]

Yes, Mazen is still at Justice, but I am not sure which division.  He may in
fact be subscribed to this list.

Best,
Scott

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To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Tai Tomasi <tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

At one time, Mazen Basrawi, a blind attorney, served as Counsel to the
Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the Department of Justice. I
am not sure if he is still there.


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Subject: [blindLaw] Department of Justice

All,

If anyone or knows someone who has worked at the Department of Justice, I
would appreciate hearing from you. Bonus if it was Main Justice, like the
Criminal Division, Appellate Division, or Office of Legal Counsel. A stint
at a USAO or even FBI headquarters would also be fair game.

Thanks,
Nikki


Nandini Singh

Covington & Burling LLP
One CityCenter, 850 Tenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20001-4956
T +1 202 662 5113 | nsingh at cov.com
www.cov.com


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From rjmorrissey26 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:45:21 2020
From: rjmorrissey26 at gmail.com (bob morrissey)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:45:21 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] [blind Law] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <EA3A92E6-57FB-4D86-AD8A-7C7FF42E7A59@icloud.com>
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	<EA3A92E6-57FB-4D86-AD8A-7C7FF42E7A59@icloud.com>
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Hello All,

I used Kaplan last year to prepare for a state insurance exam for Producer Life & Health.  I found it very workable using Zoom Text 2018.  I took the test from Prometrics and passed it on the first attempt.

I also found the Kaplan support staff and help desk very accommodating.

good luck.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Lauren Bishop
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course

Good morning all,
I was considering using Caplan  for LSAT prep; however, their online content is not accessible in anyway shape or form. I did a lot of trial and error, but I have found that power score is awesome! I have enjoyed using the Bible trio. In addition, their books are on Bookshire, so you will be able to easily get your hands on them.
Good luck!
Lauren

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Helga:
> 
> I took a Kaplan course several years ago and it was not very accessible. I hope this has changed. I highly recommend Powerscore and the Powerscore books which you can download from Bookshare.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:40 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
> 
> Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac? Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam. However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.  I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac. Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.     
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 
> 
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From seifs at umich.edu  Wed May  6 14:45:29 2020
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:45:29 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
Message-ID: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one
UBE and another Michigan state bar.)
I will be using Barbri. Any recommendations for additional resources;
study methods;
accessibility/accommodations things for which to ask/of which to be aware;
ETC?

Peace and thank you,
Seif


-- 
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(Pronouns: he/him/his.)
University of Michigan
Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies
J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies;
Law, Justice, and Social Change
B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
seifs at umich.edu

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University of Michigan Law School
3120 Jeffries Hall
701 South State Street
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
www.law.umich.edu/ITC

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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May  6 15:26:34 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 15:26:34 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b11d4d6476594c87b60a33cb2812c26d@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

I used Barbri for the July 2015 administration of the NY exam and had a good experience with them. I think to start things off, I let my Barbri rep know that I wanted to speak to the accommodations team at or after 3L finals, set up a phone call, and described how I studied in order to craft the best kind of acommodations for me. Most things I could access fine. The biggest concern I initially had was getting the actual legal topic summaries and the workbooks with exercises/drills. Barbri made them all available to me either as PDF or Word documents--really cannot recall which now--and uploaded them onto Drop Box. It was no problem downloading them and using them throughout the course. The accommodations team I thought was very responsive and helpful for the couple of follow-up questions I had following our introductory phone call, e.g. an essay exercise was not accessible, but Barbri provided a Barbri tutor, who worked with me for that discrete aspect.

As for studying for the bar, treat it like a full time job. You should spend about 7-9 hours studying. In the evening, make sure you do something totally unrelated to law and preferably physical. I think I ended up watching a lot of wildlife documentaries, and often a family member took me on a moderately long drive around our suburb to relax. I scaled back studying on the weekends, maybe four hours or less. Barbri is good in giving you a schedule that will put the fear of god into you but that will actually allow you to pass. You just have to be disciplined and stick to the plan.

One other thing that I found super helpful was completing, sometimes multiple times, the online review modules for various legal topics. These were quick and had concise explanations that really cemented the major concepts--kind of like dynamic, virtual flash cards. I do not think the modules are a standard part of the curriculum, but they are worth trying out once or twice.

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Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?

[EXTERNAL]

Hello all,

I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one UBE and another Michigan state bar.) I will be using Barbri. Any recommendations for additional resources; study methods; accessibility/accommodations things for which to ask/of which to be aware; ETC?

Peace and thank you,
Seif


--
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(Pronouns: he/him/his.)
University of Michigan
Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
seifs at umich.edu

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3120 Jeffries Hall
701 South State Street
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
www.law.umich.edu/ITC

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From seifs at umich.edu  Wed May  6 15:32:26 2020
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 11:32:26 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
In-Reply-To: <b11d4d6476594c87b60a33cb2812c26d@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<b11d4d6476594c87b60a33cb2812c26d@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3kOQf+Zvkjj85+w6bcY7MEOmVPuhrNtPMyB6X6_-W8sbp+1w@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you; that is very helpful. I will make sure to checkout the
review modules once I start.

Around how much time did you give yourself to study; more or less than
the recommended? 10 weeks?


On 5/6/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I used Barbri for the July 2015 administration of the NY exam and had a good
> experience with them. I think to start things off, I let my Barbri rep know
> that I wanted to speak to the accommodations team at or after 3L finals, set
> up a phone call, and described how I studied in order to craft the best kind
> of acommodations for me. Most things I could access fine. The biggest
> concern I initially had was getting the actual legal topic summaries and the
> workbooks with exercises/drills. Barbri made them all available to me either
> as PDF or Word documents--really cannot recall which now--and uploaded them
> onto Drop Box. It was no problem downloading them and using them throughout
> the course. The accommodations team I thought was very responsive and
> helpful for the couple of follow-up questions I had following our
> introductory phone call, e.g. an essay exercise was not accessible, but
> Barbri provided a Barbri tutor, who worked with me for that discrete
> aspect.
>
> As for studying for the bar, treat it like a full time job. You should spend
> about 7-9 hours studying. In the evening, make sure you do something totally
> unrelated to law and preferably physical. I think I ended up watching a lot
> of wildlife documentaries, and often a family member took me on a moderately
> long drive around our suburb to relax. I scaled back studying on the
> weekends, maybe four hours or less. Barbri is good in giving you a schedule
> that will put the fear of god into you but that will actually allow you to
> pass. You just have to be disciplined and stick to the plan.
>
> One other thing that I found super helpful was completing, sometimes
> multiple times, the online review modules for various legal topics. These
> were quick and had concise explanations that really cemented the major
> concepts--kind of like dynamic, virtual flash cards. I do not think the
> modules are a standard part of the curriculum, but they are worth trying out
> once or twice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
> Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:45 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Hello all,
>
> I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one UBE
> and another Michigan state bar.) I will be using Barbri. Any recommendations
> for additional resources; study methods; accessibility/accommodations things
> for which to ask/of which to be aware; ETC?
>
> Peace and thank you,
> Seif
>
>
> --
> Seif Saqallah
> (Pronouns: he/him/his.)
> University of Michigan
> Juris Doctor/
> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate |
> 2021
>
> International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and
> Social Change B.A | 2017
>
> 248-325-7091
> seifs at umich.edu
>
> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of Michigan
> Law School
> 3120 Jeffries Hall
> 701 South State Street
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
> www.law.umich.edu/ITC
>
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University of Michigan
Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies
J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies;
Law, Justice, and Social Change
B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
seifs at umich.edu

Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic
University of Michigan Law School
3120 Jeffries Hall
701 South State Street
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
www.law.umich.edu/ITC

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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 15:44:28 2020
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:44:28 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3kOQf+Zvkjj85+w6bcY7MEOmVPuhrNtPMyB6X6_-W8sbp+1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>	<b11d4d6476594c87b60a33cb2812c26d@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
	<CA+3kOQf+Zvkjj85+w6bcY7MEOmVPuhrNtPMyB6X6_-W8sbp+1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011301d623bd$3ab3eeb0$b01bcc10$@gmail.com>

I started Barbri early because I was concerned there might be accessibility
barriers and I didn't want to run out of time to cover the material. This
proved a wise decision, as the course was not completely accessible and I
spent significant time communicating with the BARBRI accommodations team to
resolve accessibility issues. I hope they have made improvements in this
regard. I was pleased to receive Braille study materials in a timely manner.


-----Original Message-----
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Saqallah via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:32 AM
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Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Bar Study?

Thank you; that is very helpful. I will make sure to checkout the review
modules once I start.

Around how much time did you give yourself to study; more or less than the
recommended? 10 weeks?


On 5/6/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I used Barbri for the July 2015 administration of the NY exam and had 
> a good experience with them. I think to start things off, I let my 
> Barbri rep know that I wanted to speak to the accommodations team at 
> or after 3L finals, set up a phone call, and described how I studied 
> in order to craft the best kind of acommodations for me. Most things I 
> could access fine. The biggest concern I initially had was getting the 
> actual legal topic summaries and the workbooks with exercises/drills. 
> Barbri made them all available to me either as PDF or Word 
> documents--really cannot recall which now--and uploaded them onto Drop 
> Box. It was no problem downloading them and using them throughout the 
> course. The accommodations team I thought was very responsive and 
> helpful for the couple of follow-up questions I had following our 
> introductory phone call, e.g. an essay exercise was not accessible, 
> but Barbri provided a Barbri tutor, who worked with me for that discrete
aspect.
>
> As for studying for the bar, treat it like a full time job. You should 
> spend about 7-9 hours studying. In the evening, make sure you do 
> something totally unrelated to law and preferably physical. I think I 
> ended up watching a lot of wildlife documentaries, and often a family 
> member took me on a moderately long drive around our suburb to relax. 
> I scaled back studying on the weekends, maybe four hours or less. 
> Barbri is good in giving you a schedule that will put the fear of god 
> into you but that will actually allow you to pass. You just have to be
disciplined and stick to the plan.
>
> One other thing that I found super helpful was completing, sometimes 
> multiple times, the online review modules for various legal topics. 
> These were quick and had concise explanations that really cemented the 
> major concepts--kind of like dynamic, virtual flash cards. I do not 
> think the modules are a standard part of the curriculum, but they are 
> worth trying out once or twice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen 
> Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:45 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Hello all,
>
> I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one 
> UBE and another Michigan state bar.) I will be using Barbri. Any 
> recommendations for additional resources; study methods; 
> accessibility/accommodations things for which to ask/of which to be aware;
ETC?
>
> Peace and thank you,
> Seif
>
>
> --
> Seif Saqallah
> (Pronouns: he/him/his.)
> University of Michigan
> Juris Doctor/
> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate 
> |
> 2021
>
> International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, 
> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017
>
> 248-325-7091
> seifs at umich.edu
>
> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of 
> Michigan Law School
> 3120 Jeffries Hall
> 701 South State Street
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
> www.law.umich.edu/ITC
>
> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is 
> confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not 
> the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, 
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International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and
Social Change B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
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Law School
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701 South State Street
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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May  6 15:57:04 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 15:57:04 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3kOQf+Zvkjj85+w6bcY7MEOmVPuhrNtPMyB6X6_-W8sbp+1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3kOQd81SLU5cz6V4qQomBnwGOfhTjyUdV8efitV_B++OqWxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<b11d4d6476594c87b60a33cb2812c26d@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
	<CA+3kOQf+Zvkjj85+w6bcY7MEOmVPuhrNtPMyB6X6_-W8sbp+1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15dd8e17c8864f18bf83e23df658ca42@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

Maybe 10- weeks exactly. I seem to remember starting shortly after 3L finals and kept going till a couple of days before the exam. I will admit you may want to give yourself 12-14 weeks. I know I did not get to do any essay practice for the multi-state, but I had enough confidence that I could imitate the style based on the sample essays that I had read. Literature major here, so I felt I could handle it. As it turned out, my task was to compose a client letter, which is one of the simpler styles to dash off during an exam.

 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:32 AM
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Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Bar Study?

[EXTERNAL]

Thank you; that is very helpful. I will make sure to checkout the review modules once I start.

Around how much time did you give yourself to study; more or less than the recommended? 10 weeks?


On 5/6/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I used Barbri for the July 2015 administration of the NY exam and had 
> a good experience with them. I think to start things off, I let my 
> Barbri rep know that I wanted to speak to the accommodations team at 
> or after 3L finals, set up a phone call, and described how I studied 
> in order to craft the best kind of acommodations for me. Most things I 
> could access fine. The biggest concern I initially had was getting the 
> actual legal topic summaries and the workbooks with exercises/drills. 
> Barbri made them all available to me either as PDF or Word 
> documents--really cannot recall which now--and uploaded them onto Drop 
> Box. It was no problem downloading them and using them throughout the 
> course. The accommodations team I thought was very responsive and 
> helpful for the couple of follow-up questions I had following our 
> introductory phone call, e.g. an essay exercise was not accessible, 
> but Barbri provided a Barbri tutor, who worked with me for that discrete aspect.
>
> As for studying for the bar, treat it like a full time job. You should 
> spend about 7-9 hours studying. In the evening, make sure you do 
> something totally unrelated to law and preferably physical. I think I 
> ended up watching a lot of wildlife documentaries, and often a family 
> member took me on a moderately long drive around our suburb to relax. 
> I scaled back studying on the weekends, maybe four hours or less. 
> Barbri is good in giving you a schedule that will put the fear of god 
> into you but that will actually allow you to pass. You just have to be disciplined and stick to the plan.
>
> One other thing that I found super helpful was completing, sometimes 
> multiple times, the online review modules for various legal topics. 
> These were quick and had concise explanations that really cemented the 
> major concepts--kind of like dynamic, virtual flash cards. I do not 
> think the modules are a standard part of the curriculum, but they are 
> worth trying out once or twice.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen 
> Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:45 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Hello all,
>
> I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one 
> UBE and another Michigan state bar.) I will be using Barbri. Any 
> recommendations for additional resources; study methods; 
> accessibility/accommodations things for which to ask/of which to be aware; ETC?
>
> Peace and thank you,
> Seif
>
>
> --
> Seif Saqallah
> (Pronouns: he/him/his.)
> University of Michigan
> Juris Doctor/
> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate 
> |
> 2021
>
> International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, 
> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017
>
> 248-325-7091
> seifs at umich.edu
>
> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of 
> Michigan Law School
> 3120 Jeffries Hall
> 701 South State Street
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
> www.law.umich.edu/ITC
>
> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is 
> confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not 
> the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, 
> please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this 
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Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
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From seifs at umich.edu  Wed May  6 16:05:24 2020
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:05:24 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
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Thank you.

On 5/6/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Maybe 10- weeks exactly. I seem to remember starting shortly after 3L finals
> and kept going till a couple of days before the exam. I will admit you may
> want to give yourself 12-14 weeks. I know I did not get to do any essay
> practice for the multi-state, but I had enough confidence that I could
> imitate the style based on the sample essays that I had read. Literature
> major here, so I felt I could handle it. As it turned out, my task was to
> compose a client letter, which is one of the simpler styles to dash off
> during an exam.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
> Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:32 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Thank you; that is very helpful. I will make sure to checkout the review
> modules once I start.
>
> Around how much time did you give yourself to study; more or less than the
> recommended? 10 weeks?
>
>
> On 5/6/20, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I used Barbri for the July 2015 administration of the NY exam and had
>> a good experience with them. I think to start things off, I let my
>> Barbri rep know that I wanted to speak to the accommodations team at
>> or after 3L finals, set up a phone call, and described how I studied
>> in order to craft the best kind of acommodations for me. Most things I
>> could access fine. The biggest concern I initially had was getting the
>> actual legal topic summaries and the workbooks with exercises/drills.
>> Barbri made them all available to me either as PDF or Word
>> documents--really cannot recall which now--and uploaded them onto Drop
>> Box. It was no problem downloading them and using them throughout the
>> course. The accommodations team I thought was very responsive and
>> helpful for the couple of follow-up questions I had following our
>> introductory phone call, e.g. an essay exercise was not accessible,
>> but Barbri provided a Barbri tutor, who worked with me for that discrete
>> aspect.
>>
>> As for studying for the bar, treat it like a full time job. You should
>> spend about 7-9 hours studying. In the evening, make sure you do
>> something totally unrelated to law and preferably physical. I think I
>> ended up watching a lot of wildlife documentaries, and often a family
>> member took me on a moderately long drive around our suburb to relax.
>> I scaled back studying on the weekends, maybe four hours or less.
>> Barbri is good in giving you a schedule that will put the fear of god
>> into you but that will actually allow you to pass. You just have to be
>> disciplined and stick to the plan.
>>
>> One other thing that I found super helpful was completing, sometimes
>> multiple times, the online review modules for various legal topics.
>> These were quick and had concise explanations that really cemented the
>> major concepts--kind of like dynamic, virtual flash cards. I do not
>> think the modules are a standard part of the curriculum, but they are
>> worth trying out once or twice.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 10:45 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Bar Study?
>>
>> [EXTERNAL]
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I might begin studying for the bar this summer. (I might take two: one
>> UBE and another Michigan state bar.) I will be using Barbri. Any
>> recommendations for additional resources; study methods;
>> accessibility/accommodations things for which to ask/of which to be aware;
>> ETC?
>>
>> Peace and thank you,
>> Seif
>>
>>
>> --
>> Seif Saqallah
>> (Pronouns: he/him/his.)
>> University of Michigan
>> Juris Doctor/
>> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate
>> |
>> 2021
>>
>> International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law,
>> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017
>>
>> 248-325-7091
>> seifs at umich.edu
>>
>> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of
>> Michigan Law School
>> 3120 Jeffries Hall
>> 701 South State Street
>> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
>> www.law.umich.edu/ITC
>>
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> Seif Saqallah
> (Pronouns: he/him/his.)
> University of Michigan
> Juris Doctor/
> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate |
> 2021
>
> International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and
> Social Change B.A | 2017
>
> 248-325-7091
> seifs at umich.edu
>
> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic University of Michigan
> Law School
> 3120 Jeffries Hall
> 701 South State Street
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
> www.law.umich.edu/ITC
>
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(Pronouns: he/him/his.)
University of Michigan
Juris Doctor/
Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies
J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021

International studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies;
Law, Justice, and Social Change
B.A | 2017

248-325-7091
seifs at umich.edu

Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic
University of Michigan Law School
3120 Jeffries Hall
701 South State Street
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109
www.law.umich.edu/ITC

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From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Wed May  6 17:01:11 2020
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 13:01:11 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <9e0b42f4c6754413bfd69bd4f85342c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <9e0b42f4c6754413bfd69bd4f85342c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <FFBB9B38-DB86-45FD-946E-3E42F7032FEC@gmail.com>

Hi Helga,
I took my LSAT this past October and did pretty well on it.
Please email me directly, text me or call me so that I can help you come up with a game plan.
If anyone else wants LSAT guidance, please just reach out. I will be more than happy to help.
My number is 4132503523 and my email is SyedRizviNFB at gmail.com 

> On May 6, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My responses are below and designated by the word "response."
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:40 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
> 
> [EXTERNAL]
> 
> Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac?
> Response: I did not use Kaplan. I second the recommendation to use the Power Score books. Get all three and complete them. After that, try to complete as many full length exams that LSAC has released under timed conditions.
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam.
> Response: Kaplan is not worth using. It is best to work from previously released exams. Most prep courses tend to make up LSAT questions. Previously released exams are the real thing. The Power Score books equip you with the theory and how the LSAT was developed.
> 
> 
> 
> However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.
> Response: I used Power Score, previous exams, and met with a private tutor a few times.
> 
> 
> 
> I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.
> Response: I think I took about a year of serious prep. But I also took it twice, which is fairly common if you want to max your score for law school applications.
> 
> 
>    I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac.
> Response: I prefer using JAWS to review the exam (formatted in Word as a doc or html file), using a reader/scribe to mark the scantron, and then using a Braille note-taker for the logic games.
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
> 
> 
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 20:05:20 2020
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 16:05:20 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
In-Reply-To: <FFBB9B38-DB86-45FD-946E-3E42F7032FEC@gmail.com>
References: <FFBB9B38-DB86-45FD-946E-3E42F7032FEC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54904109-3FF5-4C4B-A342-F787D11319F6@gmail.com>

Hello everyone. Thanks so much for the suggestions of using Power Score books. I will try to get those in bookshare. Also, I was reading about the Princeton review Prep course, which is obviously different from the Kaplan one. Did any of you try Princeton review for the LsAT prep, is the content  accessible  with screen readers? Just wondering. Thanks so much for reading. 

Helga Schreiber 
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 

 

>> On May 6, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Helga,
> I took my LSAT this past October and did pretty well on it.
> Please email me directly, text me or call me so that I can help you come up with a game plan.
> If anyone else wants LSAT guidance, please just reach out. I will be more than happy to help.
> My number is 4132503523 and my email is SyedRizviNFB at gmail.com 
> 
>> On May 6, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> My responses are below and designated by the word "response."
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:40 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Lawyers <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Kaplan LSAT Prep Course
>> 
>> [EXTERNAL]
>> 
>> Hello everyone. Hope all of  you  are doing well. My name is Helga and Iam a blind university student. I live in United States Florida.   I’m in my senior year, and I will be graduating from my Bachelor degree this upcoming december. I’m planning to betaking a Kaplan LsAT prep course next year to prepare myself for taking the exam  next year on September or perhaps on June.  How many here are using   the Kaplan prep courses to prepare for the LSAT, and is  it accessible with JAWS or Voiceover with the Mac?
>> Response: I did not use Kaplan. I second the recommendation to use the Power Score books. Get all three and complete them. After that, try to complete as many full length exams that LSAC has released under timed conditions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just wondering. I heard from others   that in prior years Kaplan  prep courses of the LsAT was not really accessible with screen readers.  This will be my first time taking the exam,  so I heard the kaplan was a good tool  for  preparing for the exam.
>> Response: Kaplan is not worth using. It is best to work from previously released exams. Most prep courses tend to make up LSAT questions. Previously released exams are the real thing. The Power Score books equip you with the theory and how the LSAT was developed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, if you are  not using  Kaplan, I will also be interested  to know what you are using or used  to prepare yourself for the exam.
>> Response: I used Power Score, previous exams, and met with a private tutor a few times.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I will really appreciate any suggestion you guys can provide me.  Also, those of you who are thinking of taking the LSAT exam either  this year or next year,  I will be glad  to hear from you in regards of how  to prepare  for the LSAT     when it comes  to study and so forth. I read that many recommend to prepare for the exam at least six months  or 3 months in advance.
>> Response: I think I took about a year of serious prep. But I also took it twice, which is fairly common if you want to max your score for law school applications.
>> 
>> 
>>   I understand there is as well  many  methods to take the exam, how did you guys take or planning to take the exam? I’m referring  taking the exam with a  reader, or braille, or taking it with JaWS or Voiceover with Mac.
>> Response: I prefer using JAWS to review the exam (formatted in Word as a doc or html file), using a reader/scribe to mark the scantron, and then using a Braille note-taker for the logic games.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Personally, I am still debating which method I should use to take the exam. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. I apologize for this long email message.
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber
>> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
>> 
>> 
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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Thu May  7 16:54:47 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 10:54:47 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S.
 Department of Justice
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Greetings everyone, here’s the latest from DOJ.

 

From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) <DOJlawjobs at usdoj.gov> 
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:37 AM
To: Undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of
Justice

 

Good Afternoon,

Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the
U.S. Department of Justice. Please post on your internal sites and
distribute to any interested audience, including law student organizations
and other affinity groups. 

The Department of Justice places a high value on diversity of experiences
and perspectives and encourages applications from all qualified individuals
from all ethnic and racial backgrounds, veterans
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/veteran-recruitment> , LGBT individuals,
and persons with disabilities
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/disability-hiring> .  We welcome
applications from candidates who are interested in positively contributing
to Justice and hope that you will consider joining the dedicated public
servants at the Department of Justice.  To learn more about Justice and our
legal careers, please visit our website at
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Supervisory Attorney
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Civil Assistant United States Attorney
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Assistant United States Attorney
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ATTORNEY <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/attorney-125>  

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USAO Northern District of Texas 

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ATTORNEY <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/attorney-126>  

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Assistant US Attorney (Criminal)
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State
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Assistant US Attorney (Appellate)
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>  

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Assistant United States Attorney (Civil Division)
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civil-division-17>  

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Assistant United States Attorney - Criminal Division
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criminal-division-19>  

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Attorney Advisor
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State
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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
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Civil Rights Division (CRT) 

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Trial Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/trial-attorney-439>  

State
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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  District of Columbia 

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Environment and Natural Resources Division (ENRD) 

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Law Clerk <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-clerk-4>  

State
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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
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National Security Division (NSD) 

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Law Student Volunteer, Spring 2021/ Summer 2021/ Fall 2021 -
Counterterrorism Section
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/national-security-division-1>  

State
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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  District of Columbia 

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USAO District of Montana 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Attorney <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/attorney-122>  

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  Montana 

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USAO Southern District of Mississippi 

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Assistant US Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-us-attorney-87>  

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  Mississippi 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Criminal Division (CRM) 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Resident Legal Advisor, Colombia
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/resident-legal-advisor-colombia-1
> 

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Criminal Division (CRM) 

Job Title
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Resident Legal Advisor, Guatemala
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/resident-legal-advisor-guatemala>


State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
USAO Southern District of Texas 

Job Title
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Law Student Intern -- Fall Semester 2020
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-intern-fall-semester-
2020>  

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  Texas 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
USAO Western District of Missouri 

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<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Assistant United States Attorney (Term)
<https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-term
>  

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  Missouri 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
USAO Western District of Texas 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-
1104>  

State
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc>  Texas 

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ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
>  May 4, 2020 


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From sai at fiatfiendum.org  Fri May  8 10:21:40 2020
From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 11:21:40 +0100
Subject: [blindLaw] Oral argument today 2pm ET in my E-FOIA case re
 rasterization & metadata destruction
Message-ID: <CAHs-R5xcUA8r=jkAbuwUeE4EM=fXE2THza9NikkkwSNkPAMBbA@mail.gmail.com>

I figured this might be of interest to y'all.

If I win, it could have a major impact on enforcement of electronic,
accessible, original/native, metadata-including FOIA production
against agencies (like DHS) who currently destroy all of that by
converting everything to rasterized PDFs (because, they claim, they
don't know any other way to prevent "countermanding" redactions).

More broadly, it could be precedent against agencies justifying
violations of the law by preventing themselves from obeying it —
underfunding / short-staffing the responsible offices, buying
508-violating software, having incompatible internal policies, etc.


### Case & today's topics

Sai v. TSA, No. 1:14-cv-403 (D. D.C.)
Last decision, denying TSA's MSJ: 315 F. Supp. 3d 218 (2018)

Topics to be covered today:
"(1) whether rasterized versus non-rasterized documents or specific
file types (e.g. PDF, TIF, DOC), constitute forms or formats under
EFOIA,
(2) whether discretization versus conglomeration of records
constitutes a form or format under EFOIA or merely constitutes a
manner of organizing documents,
(3) the burden on Defendant of having to perform redactions in native
file types or non-rasterized PDFs,
(4) the extent of Defendant's redactions of the records responsive to
Plaintiff's policies request through the FOIAXpress process,
(5) the quantity of documents responsive to Plaintiff's SFO and BOS
Re-Requests, their content, and the extent to which they were
redacted, and
(6) Defendant's ability to redact documents in their native formats or
non-rasterized formats without serious risk of those redactions being
countermanded."


### Participation info

Oral argument is at 2pm Eastern Time today (May 8).

You can dial in (muted), per
<https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/covid-19-emergency-public-access-teleconference-information-for-judges>,
at:
+1-877-336-1839
code: 4817814

If you'd like to chat about it live, Signal/Telegram/WhatsApp/Keybase
me at +15103944724 / saizai, or Twitter DM @saizai.

I'm *very* interested to hear comments / feedback / suggestions / etc.
And feel free to ask if you'd like any additional info / explanation /
context.

I'm represented by counsel, so (a) I'm not going to talk at oral
argument, and (b) there are some limits on what I can say to you. I
can introduce you to my lawyers (Jeff Green & Chike Croske at Sidley
Austin) if needed.

Feel free to hyperlink/embed/copy the docs below, and forward/quote
this email, however you like. If you post about it, or see one, I'd
appreciate it if you email or tweet me a link (@saizai).


### tl;dr primary context for today's argument

All of DHS uses commercial software called FOIAXpress to process FOIA
& Privacy Act requests, once the docs hit their FOIA office, for all
documents except audio & video.

FOIAXpress:
1. converts whatever it gets into a PDF (discarding all metadata in
the original, eg author, date modified, comments, access rights,
versions, bookmarks, alt text, navigation structure, table structure,
etc)
2. lets them redact in the usual 'select text / highlight region to
black out and pick a reason' way
3. outputs the result as a rasterized PDF (i.e. every page converted
to an image)
4. combines the entire set of documents into a single concatenated
PDF, in no particular order, with no metadata like bookmarks /
chapters / portfolio, thus discarding all metadata about e.g. what is
a separate document, original filenames, etc.

This stems from TSA's irrational overreaction to a 2009 incident †
where TSA leaked their standard operating procedures, with redactions
that were done improperly due to human error (and notably *not* due to
a flaw in their redaction policy at the time):
OIG-10-37 report on the whole thing https://fas.org/sgp/othergov/dhs/breach.pdf
leaked Screening Management SOP v3 (redactions removed & highlighted
in red boxes) https://s.ai/tsa/tsa-screening-sop.pdf
- source: https://cryptome.org/tsa-smoke/tsa-smoke.htm


My objectives here are to enjoin TSA (and by extension, all of DHS) to:
* prohibit FOIAXpress altogether as a violation of E-FOIA & force DHS
to get ESI/508-compliant FOIA software ‡
* produce native format docs (eg DOC, PPT, EML, etc) rather than PDF
* produce fully accessible, text docs, not destroy them by rasterization
* preserve & produce metadata integral to the original file (as kept by agency)
* preserve & produce file discretization - i.e. one produced file per
input file, w/ folder & file name the same as in their system (or if
n/a, like email, named usefully)
* in general, obey e-discovery / ESI type standards in FOIA responses


† Another upshot of that overreaction is that TSA has since made a
policy to designate the *entirety* of SOP docs as SSI, 49 USC 114(r),
rather than just the parts that are actually sensitive (as seen in the
above). OIG-10-37, Appx. H, p. 51 of PDF. This means they now withhold
everything, violating the "withhold only the minimum necessary"
(segregation) rule, 5 USC 552 (a)(8)(A)(ii)(II). But that's not up for
discussion today.

‡ I am partially blind, and raised Rehab Act § 508 as an argument for
electronic production during the last MSJ. That was denied because I
hadn't told TSA I was blind in the FOIA request, but just flatly
demanded 508-accessible docs. Therefore, my FOIA request template now
has a line explicitly saying I'm blind.


### Case docs

Full case docs (2 folders due to gdrive sync issues):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzmetJxi-p0VbEhCV2RYV19vQlk
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UFvCbxYNJZyZQqH_InORTTsMdKKx7B3W
- partially on RECAP:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/5101196/sai-v-transportation-security-administration/?entry_gte=169


Relevant docs for this argument (ECF #s):
* 172, opinion on first TSA motion for summary judgment (MSJ) (as
amended), 315 F. Supp. 3d 218
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RMZUOb3XvZgGFkeIALl_PRdJdNUaky5e

- 173, diff of amended vs original (162) opinion:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PMnE5Gx08iBs5uqDNhpWZPgOKx15Bu0K/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M04Iy_pFfDh_ln4LuEGZI2-UDWtsmQem/view
- 169-1, my notes on open issues
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1F4e4tRnhIrZHWHzhqrvyV1LdcJcQ1xsa

* 174, TSA 2nd MSJ
motion https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DWwJDxYQyB2LaTo5eC-4wrobrwWg-FdD/view
memo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WyKejX0Lu49SN0seSzaT1uvUqDTmhHQr/view
SOF https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fmNlwrnoJdN3rh8GpGTw_O-Zp8eAgA97/view
Vaughn https://drive.google.com/file/d/19ReL8uxX4dGgZX-QZDwRdlCEuwiQbm_G/view

* 184, Sai opp to MSJ2
memo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EZvPytuqM0JpLCaYUExy9gmRM04l8S_6/view
SOF opp https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sWfS_sahxizx3AeR-VWULESOaFwkf787/view

* 185, Sai cross-MPSJ
motion https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FF2DN-zNPsquLk91617raIpUK10d1L9J/view
memo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WzbFWxoJmceozOQMK-OO4s1afjDTxgpn/view
SOF https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b5YIIzkb74qozTnxRTvDmN0aync-c0IK/view

* 189/190, TSA reply re MSJ2 & opp to cross-MPSJ
memo https://drive.google.com/file/d/10L6_6LE_Mfo7__dbLZpXYWbRz80bpqA2/view
SOF opp https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HaRwFz70P8Kl4p0Jyn9uy3oWBDs655kO/view

- ex 1 CCTV spreadsheet, re-production (higher resolution but still
rasterized) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wwo4CVM7xME4KQ888NYzt8wkO2PhkVPK/view

* 193, Sai reply re cross-MPSJ
memo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eZcbaiPn6tYQj3U5mbLQDEoiX_E4CByA/view

- Exhibits:
A CAED How to redact
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZNDHmcDhSJraDwICkq34FJ9dg-tZfbBe/view
B Hide confidential data in Word 2007/2010 doc
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZwKWtzdcYANyhELvZZlZxYY16wEZtKC6/view
C Word redactions
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lT77ARuWVpxFn8vcubxysw34KnCwucH4/view
D Office 365 Word redactor tool
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vn9HkvJUP0LyWzWtZBG5gsVxdQHFSzGU/view
E XLerator https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dvENd4WLqpN0XOHkulqI25XfjTcL7lS9/view
F How to hide personal info in Word docs
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vSVQXXgVnLin4EbQSX4PGZ_ps4oVVmSc
G How to edit email in Outlook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EEmZ-01tm_KGdUY5buQQl8xsefoS2zAq/view
H Redacting images & PDFs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qf2-23CWAVjBMHrKBsLSt9jxHkQ6aYFu/view



Hope you enjoy.

Sincerely,
Sai
President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3)

PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen.


From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Mon May 11 01:37:26 2020
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 21:37:26 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
Message-ID: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>

Dear All,

Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails, texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students, I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 

If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.

I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.

As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.

Sincerely,

     Syed Rizvi 

From mnowicki4 at iCloud.com  Mon May 11 02:09:09 2020
From: mnowicki4 at iCloud.com (Michal Nowicki)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 21:09:09 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
In-Reply-To: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>
References: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>
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Dear Syed,

Thank you for starting this initiative. I took the LSAT in 2014. I used Excel with JAWS for the logic games section and found it useful for diagramming games accessibly. I would be happy to join the project. Please let me know how I can help.

Best,

Michal Nowicki

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:01 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Syed Rizvi
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide

Dear All,

Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails, texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students, I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 

If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.

I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.

As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.

Sincerely,

     Syed Rizvi 
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon May 11 02:23:45 2020
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 22:23:45 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
In-Reply-To: <5eb8b45b.1c69fb81.2c5e6.3db5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
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Hi everyone. This will be a great initiative Syed.  This is my first time in doing all the LSAC accommodations process and Law school accommodations  queries will come up in the future months.  I was thinking it wil be a great suggestion  to start like a conference  call meeting with students who are interested  to go to Law school and about to take the exam either  next year or this year. As you know I am planning to take  the LsAT exam next year either on June or September. Although I am kind of concern with the LSAT exam some, the  logic game section I feel will be the hardest  one since I did read some of the questions before. But I do still need a lot of practice in the otehr sections as well.  Thanks so much for reading!

Helga Schreiber 
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max 

 

> On May 10, 2020, at 10:11 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Syed,
> 
> Thank you for starting this initiative. I took the LSAT in 2014. I used Excel with JAWS for the logic games section and found it useful for diagramming games accessibly. I would be happy to join the project. Please let me know how I can help.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Michal Nowicki
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:01 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Syed Rizvi
> Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails, texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students, I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 
> 
> If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.
> 
> I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.
> 
> As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
>     Syed Rizvi 
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From deepa.goraya at gmail.com  Mon May 11 04:46:14 2020
From: deepa.goraya at gmail.com (Deepa Goraya)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 21:46:14 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
In-Reply-To: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>
References: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <012f01d6274f$1a6fc300$4f4f4900$@gmail.com>

All,

When I was part of the National Association of Law Students with
Disabilities, we developed such a guide. That organization no longer exists
but I can see if I can locate that guide and send it out. It had everything
in there like preparing for the LSAT, requesting accommodations for the
exam, requesting accommodations in law school, and more.

Deepa

Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via
BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 6:37 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide

Dear All,

Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails,
texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of
the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after
getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students,
I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit
that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 

If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach
out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will
also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.

I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this
process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be
applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.

As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to
vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.

Sincerely,

     Syed Rizvi 
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From gmelconian619 at gmail.com  Mon May 11 05:33:54 2020
From: gmelconian619 at gmail.com (gary-melconian)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 22:33:54 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
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References: <ADC28901-EFB5-45FB-8F2E-A094BDFA5211@gmail.com>
	<012f01d6274f$1a6fc300$4f4f4900$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101d62755$c396ed40$4ac4c7c0$@gmail.com>

Can you do that.i would like to  have a copy of that .   My email is
gmelconian619 at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Deepa Goraya via
BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:46 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Deepa Goraya <deepa.goraya at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide

All,

When I was part of the National Association of Law Students with
Disabilities, we developed such a guide. That organization no longer exists
but I can see if I can locate that guide and send it out. It had everything
in there like preparing for the LSAT, requesting accommodations for the
exam, requesting accommodations in law school, and more.

Deepa

Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via
BlindLaw
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 6:37 PM
To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
Cc: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide

Dear All,

Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails,
texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of
the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after
getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students,
I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit
that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 

If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach
out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will
also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.

I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this
process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be
applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.

As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to
vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.

Sincerely,

     Syed Rizvi
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From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Mon May 11 08:11:08 2020
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 04:11:08 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
In-Reply-To: <012f01d6274f$1a6fc300$4f4f4900$@gmail.com>
References: <012f01d6274f$1a6fc300$4f4f4900$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8DA74899-9F81-465E-833A-8ED1F147EEAF@gmail.com>

Deepa,
That sounds amazing!

> On May 11, 2020, at 12:46 AM, Deepa Goraya <deepa.goraya at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> When I was part of the National Association of Law Students with
> Disabilities, we developed such a guide. That organization no longer exists
> but I can see if I can locate that guide and send it out. It had everything
> in there like preparing for the LSAT, requesting accommodations for the
> exam, requesting accommodations in law school, and more.
> 
> Deepa
> 
> Deepinder K. Goraya, Esq.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Syed Rizvi via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 6:37 PM
> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Developing a LSAT and Law School Admissions Guide
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Since I replied to a previous thread, I have been receiving nonstop emails,
> texts and calls from people seeking guidance on the logic games section of
> the LSAT and how to best get accommodations from LSAC. Tonight, after
> getting off an international call with a LSAT tutor with two blind students,
> I have concluded that we must develop some sort of a blind pre-law toolkit
> that primarily focuses on the logic games and LSAC accommodations. 
> 
> If you would be interested in helping out with such a project, please reach
> out to me and I can put together a team to work on this initiative. I will
> also collaborate with the student division on this initiative.
> 
> I understand that the logic games section is being phased out but this
> process will take a few years. In the interim blind people will still be
> applying to law school and can not put their lives on hold.
> 
> As someone who just went through this trial, its struggles are still all to
> vivid. I hope you can join me in clearing the path towards law school.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
>     Syed Rizvi 
> _______________________________________________
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Mon May 11 15:11:01 2020
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 15:11:01 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Employment Attorney at CostcoIssaquah Washington
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From: James Doane <jamesdoane at me.com>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 6:43 PM
To: Diversity Stakeholders <diversity-stakeholders at list.wsba.org>
Subject: [diversity-stakeholders] Employment Attorney at Costco

We have an opening:


Employment Attorney 05-20
Costco Wholesale seeks an experienced employment attorney to join the legal team at its headquarters in Issaquah, Washington. Costco is one of the world’s top retailers, with over 160,000 US employees and over 240,000 employees globally.  This role will be responsible for providing day-to-day advice and support to Costco’s U.S. Operations and Human Resources on employee terminations, performance management, investigations, leaves of absence, accommodations, wage/hour compliance, and other employment-related matters consistent with Costco’s employee handbook (Employee Agreement), policies, and unique culture. The attorney will also supervise outside counsel on litigation matters and will support HR in responding to charges of discrimination before federal and state agencies. This position will report directly to the Corporate Counsel for employment matters.
 Responsibilities:

•       Provides support to Costco’s U.S. Operations and HR on employment matters and compliance with Costco’s Employee Agreement and other employment-related policies.

•       Supervises internal investigations related to employment matters.

•       Assists HR in investigating and responding to charges of discrimination filed with federal and state agencies.

•       Drives compliance efforts related to the Company’s personnel and payroll policies and procedures.

•       Reviews and advises Operations and HR on developments in federal, state and local employment legislation, regulation, and enforcement.

•       Monitors, manages, and reviews work and expenditures by outside counsel to ensure quality and efficacy of legal services.
 Qualifications:

•       Juris Doctorate degree from an accredited law school.

•       Admission in good standing to practice law in at least one U.S. state and eligible to practice as in-house counsel in the State of Washington.

•       At least ten years of substantive employment law counseling and litigation management experience acquired in a law firm or an in-house legal department, with some in-house experience preferred.

•       Thorough understanding of and experience in all areas of employment law, including leave and accommodation, discrimination, wage and hour/pay equity, and contingent workforce matters.

•       Excellent business judgment and ability to assess legal risk while providing practical, business-oriented advice.

•       Demonstrated ability to independently manage a diverse and complex workload while maintaining priorities and anticipating issues.

•       Exceptional written and oral communication skills for dealing with lawyers and non-lawyers.

•       Excellent legal research and analytical skills.

•       Ability and desire to work both autonomously and collaboratively.

•       Strong execution and project management skills and ability to harness stakeholders from across the organization on cross-functional projects.
At Costco, you will build a long-lasting career in a renowned culture where the Company is committed to taking care of its employees, members, and suppliers.  You will be empowered to independently drive results and feel good about what you are helping to build.  To apply, please send a cover letter and resume to Stephanie Gardner at sgardner at costco.com<mailto:sgardner at costco.com>.


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From Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV  Mon May 11 21:48:22 2020
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Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:48:22 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Join our team! The HHS Office for Civil Rights is
 hiring
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue May 12 14:47:00 2020
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 14:47:00 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Diversity Notification-FCC attorney position
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From: Jobs <jobs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maurer, Patricia via Jobs
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To: 'jobs at nfbnet.org' <jobs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maurer, Patricia <PMaurer at nfb.org>
Subject: [Jobs] FW: Diversity Notification



-----Original Message-----
From: careerconnector at monstergovt.com<mailto:careerconnector at monstergovt.com> [mailto:careerconnector at monstergovt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:36 AM
To: Maurer, Patricia <PMaurer at nfb.org<mailto:PMaurer at nfb.org>>
Subject: Diversity Notification

National Federation of the Blind
Sir/Madam

Dear Sir/Madam:

Your organization and its members might be interested in the following vacancy announcement:

Announcement Number: ATTY-WTB-2020-014

Vacancy Description: Senior Attorney Advisor

Open Period: 05/12/2020 to 06/02/2020

Series/Grade: GS-0905B Attorney Advisor-14/15

Salary: (USD) $121,316 - (USD) $170,800

Hiring Agency: Federal Communications Commission

Duty Location: Washington, DC, US

For more information, please visit the vacancy announcement located at https://careerconnector.jobs.treas.gov/cc/fcc/vacancy/viewVacancyDetail!execute.hms?orgId=1751&jnum=197877.

Thank you.

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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed May 13 22:33:32 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 16:33:32 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: [NELA Open Forum] : Associate Position- New Orleans,
 LA
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fyi

 

From: Kerry Murphy via The NELA Exchange <Mail at ConnectedCommunity.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:45 PM
To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com
Subject: [NELA Open Forum] : Associate Position- New Orleans, LA

 

All- My firm is hiring an associate attorney. Please feel free to share the below posting with anyone who might be interested, and feel free to... -posted to the "Open Forum" community





Open Forum  <https://exchange.nela.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer?tab=digestviewer&CommunityKey=59a2dcc3-8102-40d2-b2d9-e5ff2555b92c> 


 


 <https://exchange.nela.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?MessageKey=3fa034b1-290f-4ee1-b01e-c353e57d95f6&CommunityKey=59a2dcc3-8102-40d2-b2d9-e5ff2555b92c&tab=digestviewer#bm3fa034b1-290f-4ee1-b01e-c353e57d95f6> Associate Position- New Orleans, LA 



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Kerry Murphy  <https://exchange.nela.org/memberdirectory/members/profile?UserKey=a481775f-a651-473d-8f37-92a94eef0af3> 



All- My firm is hiring an associate attorney. Please feel free to share the below posting with anyone who might be interested, and feel free to reach out to me directly for more information.

Lasky Murphy is hiring an associate attorney. Our practice is focused on commercial litigation and plaintiff-side employment litigation. Strong legal research and writing skills and federal litigation experience are required. Employment and/or bankruptcy litigation experience is a plus but not essential. The ideal candidate has the familiarity with and the desire to work on challenging and complex cases, the ability to work remotely, an attention to detail, and good communication skills; is a team player; and can be responsible for several cases (with guidance from the partners). Pay commensurate with experience. Please send a cover letter, substantive writing sample, and resume to info at laskymurphy.com <mailto:info at laskymurphy.com>  with DR. FAUCI in the subject line.



  <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=f2d17616a5&view=fimg&th=162da65a1c849c99&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_jg5j6s980_162da60c27cea6c9&attbid=ANGjdJ_gzRNUhkRXfU5afj42yLXp4ri9bTK2vKPBYz8ZIbQbZ5q8FS9XUEhWkWmr125QwRbH5_YcwWfIleFa68-Gs9-yzk3Vvj7r0ctlXb> 
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(504) 603-1502 direct 
(504) 603-1503 fax
kmurphy at laskymurphy.com <mailto:kmurphy at laskymurphy.com>  

715 Girod Street, Suite 250
New Orleans, LA 70130
www.laskymurphy.com <http://www.laskymurphy.com/> 



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Kerry Murphy
Attorney at Law
Lasky Murphy LLC
New Orleans, LA
(504) 603-1500
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From cannona at fireantproductions.com  Thu May 14 02:20:20 2020
From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 21:20:20 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd: Register Now for Kellye & Ken: The Future of
 Accessibility and Law Webinar
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From: LSAC Live Streaming Event <kandkquestions at lsac.org>
Date: Wed, May 13, 2020 at 14:44
Subject: Register Now for Kellye & Ken: The Future of Accessibility and Law
Webinar
To: Aaron Cannon <CANNONA at fireantproductions.com>


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From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Thu May 14 15:31:34 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 09:31:34 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S.
 Department of Justice
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Here's the usual from DOJ.

 

Best,

Scott

 

From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) <DOJlawjobs at usdoj.gov> 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:43 AM
To: Undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of
Justice

 

Good morning,

Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the
U.S. Department of Justice. Please post on your internal sites and
distribute to any interested audience, including law student organizations
and other affinity groups. 

The Department of Justice places a high value on diversity of experiences
and perspectives and encourages applications from all qualified individuals
from all ethnic and racial backgrounds, veterans
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/veteran-recruitment> , LGBT individuals,
and persons with disabilities
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/disability-hiring> .  We welcome
applications from candidates who are interested in positively contributing
to Justice and hope that you will consider joining the dedicated public
servants at the Department of Justice.  To learn more about Justice and our
legal careers, please visit our website at
https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers.


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Southern District of Mississippi 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant US Attorney (Criminal Division - Jackson)
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-us-attorney-criminal-di
vision-jackson>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Mississippi 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Criminal Division (CRM) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title LAW STUDENT VOLUNTEER, SUMMER
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-volunteer-summer-150>


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Criminal Division (CRM) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title LAW STUDENT VOLUNTEER, ACADEMIC YEAR
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-volunteer-academic-ye
ar-24>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization United States Attorney's Office (USAO) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdal/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-0>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Alabama 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Southern District of Illinois 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-
1106>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Illinois 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Criminal Division (CRM) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Trial Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/trial-attorney-440>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 13, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Deputy Chief Appellate Immigration Judge (Vice Chair)
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/deputy-chief-appellate-immigratio
n-judge-vice-chair>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Virginia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 12, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization National Security Division (NSD) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title LAW STUDENT VOLUNTEER, SPRING 2021 /SUMMER 2021 /FALL 2021, OFFICE
OF JUSTICE FOR VICTIMS OF OVERSEAS TERRORISM
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-volunteer-spring-2020
-summer-2020-fall-2020-office-justice-victims-0>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 12, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization National Security Division (NSD) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Law Student Volunteer, Spring 2021/Summer 2021 /Fall 2021, Office
of Law and Policy
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-volunteer-spring-2021
summer-2021-fall-2021-office-law-and-policy>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 12, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization National Security Division (NSD) 

 
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Thu May 14 22:22:26 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 17:22:26 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] JAWS Skipping Around
Message-ID: <CAL6jpewR0tuHwVS7Y15-EMzARo6he_9CuPbeo=V05fr0i1uWqw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, all,

Perhaps someone here knows. I've had several textbooks now that appear
fully accessible in Word, but the paragraph controls and the
line-by-line controls give radically different information. For
instance, I was just reading a document using the paragraph controls,
arrowed up because a reference was made which didn't make sense, and
it turned out it had been skipping entire sections. This seems
especially common around footnotes. Does anyone know what to do about
it?

Warmth,
Sanho


From sanho817 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 14:45:49 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 09:45:49 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] JAWS Skipping Around
In-Reply-To: <CAL6jpewR0tuHwVS7Y15-EMzARo6he_9CuPbeo=V05fr0i1uWqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL6jpewR0tuHwVS7Y15-EMzARo6he_9CuPbeo=V05fr0i1uWqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL6jpeymV4bdhPyG2hHM=op=L6592ueBxDjmK8TPGwjU_WQkEA@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Disregard. The problem was solved by clicking into the draft view of
the document rather than the print preview or the one-page view.

Warmth,
Sanho


On 5/14/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Perhaps someone here knows. I've had several textbooks now that appear
> fully accessible in Word, but the paragraph controls and the
> line-by-line controls give radically different information. For
> instance, I was just reading a document using the paragraph controls,
> arrowed up because a reference was made which didn't make sense, and
> it turned out it had been skipping entire sections. This seems
> especially common around footnotes. Does anyone know what to do about
> it?
>
> Warmth,
> Sanho
>


From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri May 15 17:46:31 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 11:46:31 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: New Career Opportunity in the Trial Court - May 15,
 2020
In-Reply-To: <1134311859535.1116406273370.1470612392.0.491330JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
References: <1134311859535.1116406273370.1470612392.0.491330JL.2002@scheduler.constantcontact.com>
Message-ID: <005201d62ae0$c51aff10$4f50fd30$@labarrelaw.com>

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From adam.zimmerman719 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 17:55:12 2020
From: adam.zimmerman719 at gmail.com (Adam Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 10:55:12 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] New job opportunity: Executive Director Arizona Center
 for the Blind and Visually Impaired
Message-ID: <5D2BA119-9CBE-4D2D-A02D-7768224DD0E5@gmail.com>

Hi all, I am on the Board of ACBVI and we are hiring a new executive director as our current ED is retiring after 30 years. Please pass along this opportunity to anyone who may be interested. I have copied the link to the job posting below. 
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From davant1958 at gmail.com  Fri May 15 19:32:27 2020
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 14:32:27 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: New COVID-19 Civil Rights Rapid Response Programs!
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The COVID-19 pandemic has brought new challenges to the provision of pro bono legal services. A host of new legal needs are arising out of the pandemic and shutdowns across the country while at the same time, in person meetings and gatherings are discouraged or prohibited. Pro bono programs must adapt their volunteer opportunities to continue to serve clients in need. This webinar will review the legal needs stemming from the pandemic and highlight the ways pro bono programs, law firms, and bar associations are mobilizing to address pandemic related legal needs in these challenging times.

 

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The panel will explore current controversies over freedom of speech and freedom of the press. From the First Amendment implications of protests against COVID-19 quarantine orders, to a lawsuit alleging that the Trump Administration has used enforcement powers to target news organizations, to efforts to suppress information about the extent of the pandemic crisis, to current Supreme Court cases with free speech ramifications, this roundtable will tackle these issues and much more that are shaping free speech and free press today.

 

PLEASE NOTE: THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR CLE CREDIT.

 

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From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Sun May 17 00:23:38 2020
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 20:23:38 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
Message-ID: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.

I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already
working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting
the paper work for disability services soon.

Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word
and Outlook.

Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
school?  I'll have my laptop of course.

My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?

Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
that law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.

Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!

-- 
Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
Blind Performing Arts Division


From sanho817 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 00:32:41 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 19:32:41 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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Julie,

I'd love to talk with you about this off-list. I have a ton of thoughts.

Warmth,
Sanho


On 5/16/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>
> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already
> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting
> the paper work for disability services soon.
>
> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word
> and Outlook.
>
> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>
> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
> no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>
> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
> that law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
> diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>
> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> --
> Julie A. McGinnity
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
> Blind Performing Arts Division
>
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> BlindLaw mailing list
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From vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 00:42:44 2020
From: vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com (Vaughn Brown)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 17:42:44 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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Hi Julie,

Congraduations on getting into law school! I would familiarize your
self with Westlaw, legal dictionaries and other legal websites. I am
obtaining my MLS (Masters in Legal Studies) and found these websites
to be a touch tricky in the beginning.

I would also suggest getting an embosser. It does not need to be
fancy. Having your briefs in Braille well help when referring to notes
on the fly.

Hope this helps!

Kindly,
Vaughn

On 5/16/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Julie,
>
> I'd love to talk with you about this off-list. I have a ton of thoughts.
>
> Warmth,
> Sanho
>
>
> On 5/16/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>
>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already
>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting
>> the paper work for disability services soon.
>>
>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word
>> and Outlook.
>>
>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>
>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
>> no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>
>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>> that law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>> diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>
>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>
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>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Sun May 17 01:24:50 2020
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 21:24:50 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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Ms Julie:

You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish;
Please seel below;


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
via BlindLaw
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Hi everyone,

I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.

I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm wondering
what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with rehab
here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
disability services soon.

Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
Outlook.

Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
school?  I'll have my laptop of course.

My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have no
clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?

Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware that
law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and diving
into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.

Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!

--
Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
Performing Arts Division

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From philosopher25 at gmail.com  Sun May 17 13:51:17 2020
From: philosopher25 at gmail.com (philosopher25 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 09:51:17 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
References: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>

I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and professional
rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross reference
rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal research
also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can answer
questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap. Have
handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law school
and the study tools you use, like braille or speech. 

Best,
Bruce 


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via
BlindLaw
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Ms Julie:

You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;


Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
via BlindLaw
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Hi everyone,

I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.

I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm wondering
what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with rehab
here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
disability services soon.

Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
Outlook.

Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
school?  I'll have my laptop of course.

My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have no
clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?

Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware that
law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and diving
into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.

Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!

--
Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
Performing Arts Division

_______________________________________________
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 02:31:06 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 21:31:06 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
	<004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL6jpexDMQ81yZ=SsQLzsEn=a8m7X9nmHcZjuA9Tz_D5hupM+g@mail.gmail.com>

Julie,

Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"

I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
there.

I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the listserve.

Sanho


On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and professional
> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross reference
> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal research
> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can answer
> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap. Have
> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law school
> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>
> Best,
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON
> via
> BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>
> Ms Julie:
>
> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>
>
> Please advise as you like.
>
> Mike M.
>
> Mike mcglashon
> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
> Ph: 618 783 9331
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
> via BlindLaw
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>
> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm wondering
> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with rehab
> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
> disability services soon.
>
> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
> Outlook.
>
> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>
> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have no
> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>
> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware that
> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
> diving
> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>
> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>
> --
> Julie A. McGinnity
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
> Performing Arts Division
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
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> mcast.net
>
>
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From NSingh at cov.com  Mon May 18 14:38:55 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 14:38:55 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Accessible Identity Managers
Message-ID: <21f59c1af30e41c79beb0f502a7122bf@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

All,

Does anyone know which software identity managers, such as IronKey, are accessible with screen readers? JAWS-accessible managers are preferred.

Thanks!
Nikki


From vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 16:47:04 2020
From: vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com (Vaughn Brown)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 09:47:04 -0700
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <CAL6jpexDMQ81yZ=SsQLzsEn=a8m7X9nmHcZjuA9Tz_D5hupM+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
	<004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>
	<CAL6jpexDMQ81yZ=SsQLzsEn=a8m7X9nmHcZjuA9Tz_D5hupM+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG6z+aZGKyZA819oAZ8mvCKYnnWKWOCt8+ndB7zY+yPzDQ=QOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.



On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Julie,
>
> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
> my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
> ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
> provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>
> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
> reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
> letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
> subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
> and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
> there.
>
> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
> listserve.
>
> Sanho
>
>
> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
>> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and professional
>> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross
>> reference
>> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal research
>> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
>> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can
>> answer
>> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap. Have
>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law school
>> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON
>> via
>> BlindLaw
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>
>> Ms Julie:
>>
>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>>
>>
>> Please advise as you like.
>>
>> Mike M.
>>
>> Mike mcglashon
>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
>> via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>
>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm wondering
>> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with
>> rehab
>> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
>> disability services soon.
>>
>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
>> Outlook.
>>
>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>
>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have no
>> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>
>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>> that
>> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>> diving
>> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>
>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
>> Performing Arts Division
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
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>> mcast.net
>>
>>
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>> com
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>>
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From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Mon May 18 19:27:35 2020
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 15:27:35 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <CAG6z+aZGKyZA819oAZ8mvCKYnnWKWOCt8+ndB7zY+yPzDQ=QOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
	<004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>
	<CAL6jpexDMQ81yZ=SsQLzsEn=a8m7X9nmHcZjuA9Tz_D5hupM+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG6z+aZGKyZA819oAZ8mvCKYnnWKWOCt8+ndB7zY+yPzDQ=QOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHox4DK+9e=Esch9hEkNw4-z5=u6yVMuMBt5UGruJxDGy5Rxaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone

Thank you so much for the advice!

I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.

I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various
rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize
myself with the appropriate websites?

How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them
on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping and
so I can read through them with Jaws as well.

Thanks again,

Julie


On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>
>
>
> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Julie,
>>
>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
>> my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
>> ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
>> provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>
>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
>> reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
>> letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
>> subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
>> and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
>> there.
>>
>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
>> listserve.
>>
>> Sanho
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
>>> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and
>>> professional
>>> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross
>>> reference
>>> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal
>>> research
>>> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
>>> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can
>>> answer
>>> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap. Have
>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law
>>> school
>>> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON
>>> via
>>> BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>
>>> Ms Julie:
>>>
>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>>>
>>>
>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
>>> Mike mcglashon
>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>> McGinnity
>>> via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>
>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm wondering
>>> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with
>>> rehab
>>> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
>>> disability services soon.
>>>
>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
>>> Outlook.
>>>
>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>
>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
>>> no
>>> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>>> that
>>> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>>> diving
>>> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>>
>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
>>> Performing Arts Division
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40co
>>> mcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
Blind Performing Arts Division


From sanho817 at gmail.com  Mon May 18 20:40:39 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 15:40:39 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <CAHox4DK+9e=Esch9hEkNw4-z5=u6yVMuMBt5UGruJxDGy5Rxaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLHkx=g8S3HU8oXUf+NmjJsbWS1RUMfYgrKAB4LxbLv7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<072b01d62be9$f906b8f0$eb142ad0$@comcast.net>
	<004101d62c52$3dba0570$b92e1050$@gmail.com>
	<CAL6jpexDMQ81yZ=SsQLzsEn=a8m7X9nmHcZjuA9Tz_D5hupM+g@mail.gmail.com>
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Julie,

For outlines, I used the syllabus of each class and the names of each
chapter to create a structure, then filled it in using the key rules,
elements, decision trees, and cases.

Something I caution people to do is to carefully consider whether you
should be writing down the elements or a decision tree/flow chart for
each aspect of the law. Get very comfortable with flow charts as soon
as possible. Braille is ideal, but you can do them in Word or Excel,
too.

I carry a laptop with JAWS and K1000, a Focus 40 braille display, a
full-page slate, a four-line slate, an interpoint index card slate, a
one-line labeling slate, an iPad, an iPhone, wired earbuds, Apple
Airpod Pros, Aftershocks, USB drives, chargers, paper, index cards,
binder rings and a hole punch for those index cards. My computer and
iDevices are all loaded with various OCR programs and file-management
tools, including Voice Dream Reader.

At home, I have a braille embosser, a flatbed scanner, a second laptop
with JAWS, and a Perkins brailler.

I strongly recommend having access to a powerful computer and an OCR
program like K1000 or something similar. I also recommend getting to
know the people who can help at your law school such as IT people and
the deans.

There's more, but this is the tech side of things.

Sanho


On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> Thank you so much for the advice!
>
> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>
> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various
> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize
> myself with the appropriate websites?
>
> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them
> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping and
> so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Julie
>
>
> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Julie,
>>>
>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
>>> my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
>>> ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
>>> provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>
>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
>>> reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
>>> letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
>>> subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
>>> and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
>>> there.
>>>
>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
>>> listserve.
>>>
>>> Sanho
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
>>>> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and
>>>> professional
>>>> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross
>>>> reference
>>>> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal
>>>> research
>>>> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
>>>> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can
>>>> answer
>>>> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>> Have
>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law
>>>> school
>>>> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE
>>>> MCGLASHON
>>>> via
>>>> BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>
>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>
>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M.
>>>>
>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>>> McGinnity
>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>
>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
>>>> wondering
>>>> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with
>>>> rehab
>>>> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
>>>> disability services soon.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>>>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
>>>> Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>>>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>
>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
>>>> no
>>>> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>>>> that
>>>> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>>>> diving
>>>> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>> Performing Arts Division
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40co
>>>> mcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>> com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
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>>
>
>
> --
> Julie A. McGinnity
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
> Blind Performing Arts Division
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
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>


From p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au  Tue May 19 11:54:00 2020
From: p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au (Paul Harpur)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 11:54:00 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Bluebook?
Message-ID: <SYYP282MB11027D5E884D963A8327905398B90@SYYP282MB1102.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Does anyone have a summary or version of the Bluebook in a format that is NVDA/JAWS friendly?



From sanho817 at gmail.com  Tue May 19 12:09:10 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 07:09:10 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Bluebook?
In-Reply-To: <SYYP282MB11027D5E884D963A8327905398B90@SYYP282MB1102.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SYYP282MB11027D5E884D963A8327905398B90@SYYP282MB1102.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CAL6jpezksQpwZT-EazSWmQv2tf6AhVBPpAGP2pYa+=Csaf9+dw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

You can download one from Bookshare. It's not perfect, but it's almost
as good as the online version, and in some ways, better.

Sanho


On 5/19/20, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Does anyone have a summary or version of the Bluebook in a format that is
> NVDA/JAWS friendly?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>


From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Tue May 19 12:13:48 2020
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 08:13:48 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Bluebook?
In-Reply-To: <SYYP282MB11027D5E884D963A8327905398B90@SYYP282MB1102.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <SYYP282MB11027D5E884D963A8327905398B90@SYYP282MB1102.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <A15F85B3-ABA8-4B63-B941-2BC741C344AF@gmail.com>

Hello Dr. Harper,

I am just getting acquainted with the online subscription version. Have you checked it out?

Sincerely,

Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A.
716-563-9882

> On May 19, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a summary or version of the Bluebook in a format that is NVDA/JAWS friendly?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com


From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Wed May 20 13:13:19 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 09:13:19 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Bluebook?
In-Reply-To: <A15F85B3-ABA8-4B63-B941-2BC741C344AF@gmail.com>
References: <A15F85B3-ABA8-4B63-B941-2BC741C344AF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F9FBE8AA-08E8-4122-902D-0F98779CCC6A@gmail.com>

I'd recommend the online version; all the formatting has been erased in the Bookshare copy, and I've confirmed with them there isn't a way to fix it.

> On May 19, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Dr. Harper,
> 
> I am just getting acquainted with the online subscription version. Have you checked it out?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A.
> 716-563-9882
> 
>> On May 19, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a summary or version of the Bluebook in a format that is NVDA/JAWS friendly?
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com


From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Wed May 20 13:19:43 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 09:19:43 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <CAL6jpewwowKipkvZ4KCKRJSYA3gqsXgyGs8m2hTcuPZVfUgEWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL6jpewwowKipkvZ4KCKRJSYA3gqsXgyGs8m2hTcuPZVfUgEWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ED3778F9-5E09-4071-B24B-6FD6FBCC82D5@gmail.com>

I don't know of one "right" way to do an outline. I know a lot of people who used flowcharts, but never figured out a way to do so; it's nice to hear there is some way to do it in Word, though.

That seems like a slightly excessive tech collection. When I was in school I had a laptop, BrailleNote, and iPhone with just one pair of headphones. But whatever works for anybody. I've actually given up on a notetaker at this point and just use a Braille display. I wouldn't see a need for two separate iDevices.

> On May 18, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Julie,
> 
> For outlines, I used the syllabus of each class and the names of each
> chapter to create a structure, then filled it in using the key rules,
> elements, decision trees, and cases.
> 
> Something I caution people to do is to carefully consider whether you
> should be writing down the elements or a decision tree/flow chart for
> each aspect of the law. Get very comfortable with flow charts as soon
> as possible. Braille is ideal, but you can do them in Word or Excel,
> too.
> 
> I carry a laptop with JAWS and K1000, a Focus 40 braille display, a
> full-page slate, a four-line slate, an interpoint index card slate, a
> one-line labeling slate, an iPad, an iPhone, wired earbuds, Apple
> Airpod Pros, Aftershocks, USB drives, chargers, paper, index cards,
> binder rings and a hole punch for those index cards. My computer and
> iDevices are all loaded with various OCR programs and file-management
> tools, including Voice Dream Reader.
> 
> At home, I have a braille embosser, a flatbed scanner, a second laptop
> with JAWS, and a Perkins brailler.
> 
> I strongly recommend having access to a powerful computer and an OCR
> program like K1000 or something similar. I also recommend getting to
> know the people who can help at your law school such as IT people and
> the deans.
> 
> There's more, but this is the tech side of things.
> 
> Sanho
> 
> 
>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>> 
>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>> 
>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various
>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize
>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>> 
>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them
>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping and
>> so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>> 
>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
>>>> my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
>>>> ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
>>>> provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>> 
>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
>>>> reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
>>>> letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
>>>> subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
>>>> and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
>>>> there.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
>>>> listserve.
>>>> 
>>>> Sanho
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
>>>>> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and
>>>>> professional
>>>>> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross
>>>>> reference
>>>>> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal
>>>>> research
>>>>> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
>>>>> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can
>>>>> answer
>>>>> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
>>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>> Have
>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law
>>>>> school
>>>>> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE
>>>>> MCGLASHON
>>>>> via
>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>>>> McGinnity
>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
>>>>> wondering
>>>>> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with
>>>>> rehab
>>>>> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
>>>>> disability services soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>>>>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
>>>>> Outlook.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>>>>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
>>>>> no
>>>>> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>>>>> that
>>>>> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>>>>> diving
>>>>> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>> Performing Arts Division
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40co
>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>> com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 16:16:10 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 11:16:10 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <ED3778F9-5E09-4071-B24B-6FD6FBCC82D5@gmail.com>
References: <ED3778F9-5E09-4071-B24B-6FD6FBCC82D5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3C3BCCDC-54B1-480A-BF04-603BA38BE05C@gmail.com>

Kelbie, 

I could, and mostly do, get by with my laptop, phone, and headphones. But having access to as much as possible is fantastic when I need to braille a brief, spatially organize a particular framework in Civil Procedure, etc. That braille labeling tape came in handy when we needed to braille the computer monitors beside each of the classroom doors. It's definitely excessive. But I can't think of anything I haven't used so far. 

Warmth, 
Sanho

 

> On May 20, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't know of one "right" way to do an outline. I know a lot of people who used flowcharts, but never figured out a way to do so; it's nice to hear there is some way to do it in Word, though.
> 
> That seems like a slightly excessive tech collection. When I was in school I had a laptop, BrailleNote, and iPhone with just one pair of headphones. But whatever works for anybody. I've actually given up on a notetaker at this point and just use a Braille display. I wouldn't see a need for two separate iDevices.
> 
>> On May 18, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Julie,
>> 
>> For outlines, I used the syllabus of each class and the names of each
>> chapter to create a structure, then filled it in using the key rules,
>> elements, decision trees, and cases.
>> 
>> Something I caution people to do is to carefully consider whether you
>> should be writing down the elements or a decision tree/flow chart for
>> each aspect of the law. Get very comfortable with flow charts as soon
>> as possible. Braille is ideal, but you can do them in Word or Excel,
>> too.
>> 
>> I carry a laptop with JAWS and K1000, a Focus 40 braille display, a
>> full-page slate, a four-line slate, an interpoint index card slate, a
>> one-line labeling slate, an iPad, an iPhone, wired earbuds, Apple
>> Airpod Pros, Aftershocks, USB drives, chargers, paper, index cards,
>> binder rings and a hole punch for those index cards. My computer and
>> iDevices are all loaded with various OCR programs and file-management
>> tools, including Voice Dream Reader.
>> 
>> At home, I have a braille embosser, a flatbed scanner, a second laptop
>> with JAWS, and a Perkins brailler.
>> 
>> I strongly recommend having access to a powerful computer and an OCR
>> program like K1000 or something similar. I also recommend getting to
>> know the people who can help at your law school such as IT people and
>> the deans.
>> 
>> There's more, but this is the tech side of things.
>> 
>> Sanho
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>> 
>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>> 
>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various
>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize
>>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>> 
>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them
>>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping and
>>> so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you is
>>>>> my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor would
>>>>> ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please list the
>>>>> provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and standard
>>>>> reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the numbers,
>>>>> letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the left of each
>>>>> subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open the find dialogue
>>>>> and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. It'll take you right
>>>>> there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
>>>>> listserve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sanho
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of civil
>>>>>> procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and
>>>>>> professional
>>>>>> rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with ways to cross
>>>>>> reference
>>>>>> rules against rules within the same text. Blue booking and legal
>>>>>> research
>>>>>> also have some challenges that you'll want to discuss with other blind
>>>>>> people familiar with them. You'll want to have a system that you can
>>>>>> answer
>>>>>> questions in class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I
>>>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>> Have
>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law
>>>>>> school
>>>>>> and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE
>>>>>> MCGLASHON
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel below;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>>>>> McGinnity
>>>>>> via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>> what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already working with
>>>>>> rehab
>>>>>> here to get me a note taker, and I will be starting the paper work for
>>>>>> disability services soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I should
>>>>>> familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient with Word and
>>>>>> Outlook.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in law
>>>>>> school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I have
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something like this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm aware
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> law school is unlike anything I've ever done academically.
>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can and
>>>>>> diving
>>>>>> into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be welcome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> Performing Arts Division
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40co
>>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>>> com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May 20 16:25:36 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 16:25:36 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.

Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.

Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.

Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.

I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.

The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.


>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>
>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>
>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize 
>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>
>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them 
>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping 
>> and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Julie,
>>>>
>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you 
>>>> is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor 
>>>> would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please 
>>>> list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>
>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the 
>>>> numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the 
>>>> left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open 
>>>> the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. 
>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>
>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the 
>>>> listserve.
>>>>
>>>> Sanho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and 
>>>>> professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with 
>>>>> ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text. 
>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them. 
>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I found a 
>>>>> good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly, 
>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>> Have
>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law 
>>>>> school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel 
>>>>> below;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already 
>>>>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be 
>>>>> starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient 
>>>>> with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in 
>>>>> law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I 
>>>>> have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something 
>>>>> like this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm 
>>>>> aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>> academically.
>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can 
>>>>> and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be 
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcgl
>>>>> ashon%40co
>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>> com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40g
>>>>> mail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gm
>>> ail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmai
>> l.com
>>
>
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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:06:09 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 13:06:09 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free here: http://themisbar.com/


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
> 
> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
> 
> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
> 
> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
> 
> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
> 
> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
> 
> 
>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>> 
>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>> 
>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize 
>>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>> 
>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them 
>>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping 
>>> and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you 
>>>>> is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor 
>>>>> would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please 
>>>>> list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the 
>>>>> numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the 
>>>>> left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open 
>>>>> the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. 
>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the 
>>>>> listserve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sanho
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and 
>>>>>> professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with 
>>>>>> ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text. 
>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them. 
>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I found a 
>>>>>> good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly, 
>>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>> Have
>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law 
>>>>>> school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel 
>>>>>> below;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already 
>>>>>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be 
>>>>>> starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient 
>>>>>> with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in 
>>>>>> law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I 
>>>>>> have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something 
>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm 
>>>>>> aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can 
>>>>>> and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be 
>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcgl
>>>>>> ashon%40co
>>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>>> com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40g
>>>>>> mail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>> for
>>>> BlindLaw:
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>>>> ail.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmai
>>> l.com
>>> 
>> 
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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:07:19 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 13:07:19 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <5CD4D782-976A-40A3-96B7-F6C9775270F8@gmail.com>
References: <5CD4D782-976A-40A3-96B7-F6C9775270F8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BABB1B7-E329-4B4D-98AB-6C0ACD0AA6C7@gmail.com>

Also, many of the E and E books are on Bookshare, and if your school has a West subscription there are basic audio courses you can take, as well as a lot of hornbooks in PDF. Very worth checking out.

> On May 20, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free here: http://themisbar.com/
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
>> 
>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
>> 
>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>> 
>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>> 
>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>> 
>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>> 
>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize 
>>>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>> 
>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them 
>>>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping 
>>>> and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you 
>>>>>> is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor 
>>>>>> would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please 
>>>>>> list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the 
>>>>>> numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the 
>>>>>> left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open 
>>>>>> the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter. 
>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the 
>>>>>> listserve.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and 
>>>>>>>> professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with 
>>>>>>>> ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text. 
>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them. 
>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I found a 
>>>>>>>> good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly, 
>>>>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law 
>>>>>>>> school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel 
>>>>>>>> below;
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already 
>>>>>>>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be 
>>>>>>>> starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient 
>>>>>>>> with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in 
>>>>>>>> law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I 
>>>>>>>> have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something 
>>>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can 
>>>>>>>> and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be 
>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcgl
>>>>>>>> ashon%40co
>>>>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40g
>>>>>>>> mail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gm
>>>>>> ail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmai
>>>>> l.com
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40g
>>> mail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:13:49 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 12:13:49 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <5CD4D782-976A-40A3-96B7-F6C9775270F8@gmail.com>
References: <5CD4D782-976A-40A3-96B7-F6C9775270F8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3C3C6A6-15E0-4009-9B28-A388C83D967C@gmail.com>

For what it's worth, I have wired earbuds for my laptop, Airpods for my phone, and Aftershocks in the very rare instance that I need to learn a new area using GPS and want to be able to hear my screen reader. I was gifted those before I bought the Airpods. 

Perhaps I should be more self-conscious about what I've found useful. All of my sighted peers have a laptop, iPad, phone, display, printer, and hardcopy notetaking supplies for different occasions. But they could all get by with less. That is true. 

Sanho


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free here: http://themisbar.com/
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
>> 
>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
>> 
>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>> 
>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>> 
>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>> 
>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
>> 
>> 
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>> 
>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize 
>>>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>> 
>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them 
>>>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping 
>>>> and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you 
>>>>>> is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor 
>>>>>> would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please 
>>>>>> list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the 
>>>>>> numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the 
>>>>>> left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open 
>>>>>> the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter.
>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the 
>>>>>> listserve.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and 
>>>>>>>> professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with 
>>>>>>>> ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text. 
>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them. 
>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I found a 
>>>>>>>> good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly, 
>>>>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law 
>>>>>>>> school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel 
>>>>>>>> below;
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already 
>>>>>>>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be 
>>>>>>>> starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient 
>>>>>>>> with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in 
>>>>>>>> law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I 
>>>>>>>> have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something 
>>>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can 
>>>>>>>> and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be 
>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcgl
>>>>>>>> ashon%40co
>>>>>>>> mcast.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/philosopher25%40gmail.
>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40g
>>>>>>>> mail.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> BlindLaw:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gm
>>>>>> ail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
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From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:32:11 2020
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 13:32:11 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <A3C3C6A6-15E0-4009-9B28-A388C83D967C@gmail.com>
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This is such great information.  Thank you, all of you.

I understand having a tech arsenal.  It would be highly irritating to
be unable to participate in a class properly because you don't have
the right tech.

As for a flow chart, well, I don't think I've used one of those since
middle school, and I'm not sure how I would render one on a note
taker.  I don't like taking notes in class on a laptop because I have
trouble listening to the lecture and listening to Jaws at the same
time.  And if I ever have to read out loud, there is no way I'm
reading after Jaws.  Lol That's quite the disaster.  One of you
mentioned modifying a flow chart with punctuation to represent what
item leads to the next.  Perhaps I will play with that method.  I've
used similar methods when taking music theory notes in undergrad.

I am a little lost at what the various books you mention, but I will
look them up and plan to do practice exams.

Thanks again for all the advice.

Julie


On 5/20/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> For what it's worth, I have wired earbuds for my laptop, Airpods for my
> phone, and Aftershocks in the very rare instance that I need to learn a new
> area using GPS and want to be able to hear my screen reader. I was gifted
> those before I bought the Airpods.
>
> Perhaps I should be more self-conscious about what I've found useful. All of
> my sighted peers have a laptop, iPad, phone, display, printer, and hardcopy
> notetaking supplies for different occasions. But they could all get by with
> less. That is true.
>
> Sanho
>
>
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no good.
>> I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides outlining,
>> one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something with a lot of
>> assessment questions. Some of the black letter books have these. Learning
>> bite-sized chunks of material and being able to summarize them, and
>> building a knowledge base that way, is extremely effective. In addition to
>> past exams from professors, I highly recommend exam pro books for every
>> subject have very helpful practice tests. Themis, the bar preparation
>> course I took, used this method and it was invaluable; I think it's easily
>> transferrable to law school classes. If you want a taste of how it works,
>> they offer their Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility
>> courses for free here: http://themisbar.com/
>>
>>
>>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker,
>>> laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone
>>> because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for
>>> work though.
>>>
>>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline
>>> bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had
>>> made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many
>>> people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor
>>> or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize
>>> the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon
>>> were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I
>>> became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in
>>> the horn books for me.
>>>
>>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the
>>> proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons
>>> to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The
>>> one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>>>
>>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always
>>> look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short
>>> answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to
>>> complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a
>>> function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study
>>> group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>>>
>>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding
>>> how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille,
>>> Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still
>>> effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more
>>> of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow
>>> chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>>>
>>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my
>>> major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected
>>> courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how
>>> they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you
>>> will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so
>>> I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a
>>> provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for
>>> all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated
>>> capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful),
>>> holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few
>>> notes to supplement the case brief.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>>>
>>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various
>>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just familiarize
>>>>> myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>>>
>>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep them
>>>>> on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe keeping
>>>>> and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with you
>>>>>>> is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My professor
>>>>>>> would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will you please
>>>>>>> list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and
>>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has the
>>>>>>> numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed to the
>>>>>>> left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, just open
>>>>>>> the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter.
>>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through the
>>>>>>> listserve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of
>>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law and
>>>>>>>>> professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself with
>>>>>>>>> ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text.
>>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that
>>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them.
>>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in
>>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I found a
>>>>>>>>> good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. Lastly,
>>>>>>>>> outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with law
>>>>>>>>> school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE
>>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please seel
>>>>>>>>> below;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie
>>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm
>>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am already
>>>>>>>>> working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I will be
>>>>>>>>> starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I
>>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already proficient
>>>>>>>>> with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without in
>>>>>>>>> law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  I
>>>>>>>>> have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken something
>>>>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and I'm
>>>>>>>>> aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done
>>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I can
>>>>>>>>> and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice would be
>>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>>>>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>
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MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
Blind Performing Arts Division


From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Wed May 20 17:41:49 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (Kelby Carlson)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 13:41:49 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
Message-ID: <7FA733FD-195E-4687-A5E2-347E7998B871@gmail.com>

You might also consider a Braille display instead of a notetaker. I gave up on my notetaker long ago; they simply can't keep up with the changing technology, nor can they do advanced document formatting the way I need them to. A Braille display gives you the best of both worlds, in my opinion. If you already have a notetaker, you could just use it as a Braille display; that's what I've done with mine.

> On May 20, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 


From NSingh at cov.com  Wed May 20 17:54:30 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 17:54:30 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
In-Reply-To: <A3C3C6A6-15E0-4009-9B28-A388C83D967C@gmail.com>
References: <5CD4D782-976A-40A3-96B7-F6C9775270F8@gmail.com>
	<A3C3C6A6-15E0-4009-9B28-A388C83D967C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cfb9574d6180461c9a2c7136a7da72c8@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

Not necessarily. It is very individual, and people may work differently over time. One reason I slimmed down my technical footprint was my living in a dorm with limited space. To the extent  you can, try to use less paper for the sake of the environment. I am not sure how many forests we have demolished in printing out binders at my firm! But if you learn better with embossed Braille, use it. Just consider a Braille display later. I also agree on the general point about Braille displays vs note takers. I still love my Apex, but I use it more as a display now. In school, I used it to take notes and write the first draft of papers. I finished the final draft using Word on a PC. And since Humanware will stop supporting the Apex, and I have not been too impressed with the latest note taker options, I am going to have to purchase a Braille display soon. I have to get over the sticker shock, which has been a mental block more persistent than I anticipated.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:14 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

[EXTERNAL]

For what it's worth, I have wired earbuds for my laptop, Airpods for my phone, and Aftershocks in the very rare instance that I need to learn a new area using GPS and want to be able to hear my screen reader. I was gifted those before I bought the Airpods.

Perhaps I should be more self-conscious about what I've found useful. All of my sighted peers have a laptop, iPad, phone, display, printer, and hardcopy notetaking supplies for different occasions. But they could all get by with less. That is true.

Sanho


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no 
> good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides 
> outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something 
> with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books 
> have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to 
> summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely 
> effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly 
> recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice 
> tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and 
> it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school 
> classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their 
> Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free 
> here: http://themisbar.com/
>
>
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
>>
>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
>>
>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>>
>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>>
>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>>
>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
>>
>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>>
>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just 
>>>> familiarize myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>>
>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep 
>>>> them on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe 
>>>> keeping and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw 
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with 
>>>>>> you is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My 
>>>>>> professor would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will 
>>>>>> you please list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has 
>>>>>> the numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed 
>>>>>> to the left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, 
>>>>>> just open the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter.
>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through 
>>>>>> the listserve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law 
>>>>>>>> and professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself 
>>>>>>>> with ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text.
>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them.
>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I 
>>>>>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does. 
>>>>>>>> Lastly, outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with 
>>>>>>>> law school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please 
>>>>>>>> seel below;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am 
>>>>>>>> already working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I 
>>>>>>>> will be starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already 
>>>>>>>> proficient with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without 
>>>>>>>> in law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  
>>>>>>>> I have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken 
>>>>>>>> something like this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and 
>>>>>>>> I'm aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I 
>>>>>>>> can and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice 
>>>>>>>> would be welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of 
>>>>>>>> the Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>>
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From joshl at loevy.com  Wed May 20 17:56:22 2020
From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 12:56:22 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] task managers
Message-ID: <23c92968a93db67cee8c7aa8915671e3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I wanted to see what experience people have with various project and task
managers. I have heard good things about fantastical and trello.  Has
anyone used those programs, or others, in their practice?

From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed May 20 19:39:54 2020
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 15:39:54 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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Hi guys:
I start by saying, I am currently in law school; (bottom of the second top of the third) years.
To add to the already exhaustive list of suggestions for preparing for law school:
I record "everything" and I do mean everything!!
I use an old I phone to record classes and meetings with profs,
(at least I did whenst we went to class in person);
Now because of zoom, I use goldwave on my computer,
I do this so I don't have to ask permission to record anything, and I do not need to rely on zoom's recording features;

For notes, I use notepad exclusively but for the briefs and papers, I use word.

Perhaps, as someone said earlier, I am real "tight" with library staff, and especially profs,
I even go as far as to treat them like my family members,
This is not for favoritism above other students, but rather,
Many times the law is abstract and I need to be able to kick things around with them,
(sometimes many times in many ways till the lightbulb goes on);
I do this also because profs and lawyers in general tend to be too wordy, and,
It annoys me to no end,
So, through discussions, I eventually get them to say in a few words what they took ten pages to say earlier.

I do have braille printer,
(my sister runs it for me because I don't know how to make braille come out perfect and she does,
Exactly as if I wrote it by hand with slate or braillewriter);
I'm knit picky that way if braille isn't perfect as if I would do it, then I don't want it at all.

I used to have braille display, but,
It has broken, jaws can't seem to see it anymore;

Just thought I'd put more things on the bulletin board.

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:55 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Not necessarily. It is very individual, and people may work differently over time. One reason I slimmed down my technical footprint was my living in a dorm with limited space. To the extent  you can, try to use less paper for the sake of the environment. I am not sure how many forests we have demolished in printing out binders at my firm! But if you learn better with embossed Braille, use it. Just consider a Braille display later. I also agree on the general point about Braille displays vs note takers. I still love my Apex, but I use it more as a display now. In school, I used it to take notes and write the first draft of papers. I finished the final draft using Word on a PC. And since Humanware will stop supporting the Apex, and I have not been too impressed with the latest note taker options, I am going to have to purchase a Braille display soon. I have to get over the sticker shock, which has been a mental block more persistent than I anticipated.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:14 PM
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Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

[EXTERNAL]

For what it's worth, I have wired earbuds for my laptop, Airpods for my phone, and Aftershocks in the very rare instance that I need to learn a new area using GPS and want to be able to hear my screen reader. I was gifted those before I bought the Airpods.

Perhaps I should be more self-conscious about what I've found useful. All of my sighted peers have a laptop, iPad, phone, display, printer, and hardcopy notetaking supplies for different occasions. But they could all get by with less. That is true.

Sanho


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no 
> good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides 
> outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something 
> with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books 
> have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to 
> summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely 
> effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly 
> recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice 
> tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and 
> it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school 
> classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their 
> Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free
> here: http://themisbar.com/
>
>
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
>>
>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
>>
>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>>
>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>>
>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>>
>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
>>
>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>>
>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just 
>>>> familiarize myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>>
>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep 
>>>> them on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe 
>>>> keeping and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw 
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with 
>>>>>> you is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My 
>>>>>> professor would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will 
>>>>>> you please list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has 
>>>>>> the numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed 
>>>>>> to the left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, 
>>>>>> just open the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter.
>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through 
>>>>>> the listserve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law 
>>>>>>>> and professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself 
>>>>>>>> with ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text.
>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them.
>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I 
>>>>>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does.
>>>>>>>> Lastly, outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with 
>>>>>>>> law school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please 
>>>>>>>> seel below;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am 
>>>>>>>> already working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I 
>>>>>>>> will be starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already 
>>>>>>>> proficient with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without 
>>>>>>>> in law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  
>>>>>>>> I have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken 
>>>>>>>> something like this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and 
>>>>>>>> I'm aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I 
>>>>>>>> can and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice 
>>>>>>>> would be welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of 
>>>>>>>> the Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 00:04:50 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Privacy attorney opening at Costco
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 08:44:19 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
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Hello everyone,

First I will echo Julie's thanks.  I have been a very happy voyeur to this conversation.  I am also preoccupied with preparation for my first year of law school.  The process is desperately thrilling and, coincidentally, anxiety producing.

I want to add a question about Blue booking.  I bought the online subscription a month ago.  Much to my chagrin, I am not a Braille reader.  Thus, citation in my under graduate and graduate work was an exercise that I took on without enough tools.  I was hoping to get a leg up on learning how to navigate and apply the Blue book.  So far I find it nonsensical and scary.  Yes I am a bit of a baby.  I know that this is because I am trying to understand it in the abstract and not along with course work.  That said, I am wondering if anyone could point me towards a reasonably down to earth guide which will help me learn the system.

Again, and hoping not to come off as effusive, thank you all so much for willingly guiding us through this process.

Sincerely,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:40 PM
To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Hi guys:
I start by saying, I am currently in law school; (bottom of the second top of the third) years.
To add to the already exhaustive list of suggestions for preparing for law school:
I record "everything" and I do mean everything!!
I use an old I phone to record classes and meetings with profs, (at least I did whenst we went to class in person); Now because of zoom, I use goldwave on my computer, I do this so I don't have to ask permission to record anything, and I do not need to rely on zoom's recording features;

For notes, I use notepad exclusively but for the briefs and papers, I use word.

Perhaps, as someone said earlier, I am real "tight" with library staff, and especially profs, I even go as far as to treat them like my family members, This is not for favoritism above other students, but rather, Many times the law is abstract and I need to be able to kick things around with them, (sometimes many times in many ways till the lightbulb goes on); I do this also because profs and lawyers in general tend to be too wordy, and, It annoys me to no end, So, through discussions, I eventually get them to say in a few words what they took ten pages to say earlier.

I do have braille printer,
(my sister runs it for me because I don't know how to make braille come out perfect and she does, Exactly as if I wrote it by hand with slate or braillewriter); I'm knit picky that way if braille isn't perfect as if I would do it, then I don't want it at all.

I used to have braille display, but,
It has broken, jaws can't seem to see it anymore;

Just thought I'd put more things on the bulletin board.

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:55 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

Not necessarily. It is very individual, and people may work differently over time. One reason I slimmed down my technical footprint was my living in a dorm with limited space. To the extent  you can, try to use less paper for the sake of the environment. I am not sure how many forests we have demolished in printing out binders at my firm! But if you learn better with embossed Braille, use it. Just consider a Braille display later. I also agree on the general point about Braille displays vs note takers. I still love my Apex, but I use it more as a display now. In school, I used it to take notes and write the first draft of papers. I finished the final draft using Word on a PC. And since Humanware will stop supporting the Apex, and I have not been too impressed with the latest note taker options, I am going to have to purchase a Braille display soon. I have to get over the sticker shock, which has been a mental block more persistent than I anticipated.

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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School

[EXTERNAL]

For what it's worth, I have wired earbuds for my laptop, Airpods for my phone, and Aftershocks in the very rare instance that I need to learn a new area using GPS and want to be able to hear my screen reader. I was gifted those before I bought the Airpods.

Perhaps I should be more self-conscious about what I've found useful. All of my sighted peers have a laptop, iPad, phone, display, printer, and hardcopy notetaking supplies for different occasions. But they could all get by with less. That is true.

Sanho


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I confess I'm useless with a slate, so that would have done me no 
> good. I'm not sure why I'd need that many headphones either. Besides 
> outlining, one helpful review strategy I've found is finding something 
> with a lot of assessment questions. Some of the black letter books 
> have these. Learning bite-sized chunks of material and being able to 
> summarize them, and building a knowledge base that way, is extremely 
> effective. In addition to past exams from professors, I highly 
> recommend exam pro books for every subject have very helpful practice 
> tests. Themis, the bar preparation course I took, used this method and 
> it was invaluable; I think it's easily transferrable to law school 
> classes. If you want a taste of how it works, they offer their 
> Constitutional Law and Professional Responsibility courses for free
> here: http://themisbar.com/
>
>
>> On May 20, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I was fairly lean with tech during law school: Braille note taker, laptop with JAWS, and a smart phone with Talks (not even an iPhone because I was and am still a bit of a luddite). I do use more tech for work though.
>>
>> Outlining was interesting. We actually had a continually updated outline bank that collected outlines that past generations of law students had made and then archived for all the major black letter classes. Many people downloaded a good outline and then revised it based on professor or after perusing horn books, e.g. black letter capsules that summarize the important concepts. Examples and Explanations in addition to Glannon were some of the popular ones. Your law library should have both. I became friendly with library staff, who were always willing to scan in the horn books for me.
>>
>> Eventually, I liked to reduce and condense entire outlines into the proverbial one-page outline. This mostly involved words and semi colons to convey the idea of a flow chart. This was done on my Braille Note. The one-pagers were great for open book exams.
>>
>> Regarding finals, professors also put up past exams, so you could always look at those to get a sense for the type of issue spotters and/or short answer questions that they liked to pose. When I was a 1L, I liked to complete past exams with other people, but I think this was more a function that we were all terrified of failing than preferring the study group model, which died out by 1L spring.
>>
>> I should say that everyone is different when it comes to understanding how laws, regs, and/or rules relate to each other. Regardless of Braille, Word, Excel, you need to review repeatedly, which is a basic but still effective learning technique. Keep in mind that some classes  have more of this than others, so you may feel like you need something like a flow chart for evidence or civ pro but not so much for corporations.
>>
>> The type of class and professor makes a difference, which is one of my major themes today I guess. For better or worse, many of us selected courses based on who was teaching it, and we asked our classmates how they liked that professor's style. This can give you ideas on what you will need to do to gear up for class. I am a very theoretical thinker, so I gravitated to professors who were similar. I never had to read aloud a provision in the Constitution, but I made sure that I had case briefs for all the precedents we had been assigned. A case brief is an annotated capsule of the case, i.e. facts, issue, posture (occasionally helpful), holding (central ruling), rationale. During class, I jotted down a few notes to supplement the case brief.
>>
>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for the advice!
>>>>
>>>> I truly appreciate it.  And thank you for the Federal Rules, Sanho.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know the first thing about cross referencing the various 
>>>> rules.  I suppose the best way to begin would be to just 
>>>> familiarize myself with the appropriate websites?
>>>>
>>>> How did you guys tackle outlines?  I was simply planning to keep 
>>>> them on my Braille Note and copy them to a flash drive for safe 
>>>> keeping and so I can read through them with Jaws as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/18/20, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Sanho for sharing! That was quite thoughtful of you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/17/20, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw 
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going off of what Bruce said, one thing I'd love to share with 
>>>>>> you is my searchable copy of the Rules of Civil Procedure. My 
>>>>>> professor would ask questions like, "Mr. Steele-Louchart, will 
>>>>>> you please list the provisions of Rule 5B2b-ii?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to be able to get there quickly, and using headings and 
>>>>>> standard reading controls simply didn't cut it. My version has 
>>>>>> the numbers, letters, and roman numerals of the rule all listed 
>>>>>> to the left of each subpart. If you're looking for Rule 42B2, 
>>>>>> just open the find dialogue and literally type in 42B2 before hitting enter.
>>>>>> It'll take you right there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll attach the accommodated version in case it can go through 
>>>>>> the listserve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/20, philosopher25--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I suggest bookmarking the online versions of federal rules of 
>>>>>>>> civil procedure and other such rule books such as criminal law 
>>>>>>>> and professional rules of conduct. Start familiarizing yourself 
>>>>>>>> with ways to cross reference rules against rules within the same text.
>>>>>>>> Blue booking and legal research also have some challenges that 
>>>>>>>> you'll want to discuss with other blind people familiar with them.
>>>>>>>> You'll want to have a system that you can answer questions in 
>>>>>>>> class. At some later date a system to do oral arguments. I 
>>>>>>>> found a good study group was helpful, but not everyone does.
>>>>>>>> Lastly, outlining is something of a challenge you'll want to work out asap.
>>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>>> handy a few phone numbers of blind people with experience with 
>>>>>>>> law school and the study tools you use, like braille or speech.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of MIKE 
>>>>>>>> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:25 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Julie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can call me and we can discuss this if you wish; Please 
>>>>>>>> seel below;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please advise as you like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike M.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike mcglashon
>>>>>>>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie 
>>>>>>>> McGinnity via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindLaw] Preparing for Law School
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope all of you are staying safe and sane in these crazy times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am starting my first year of law school in the fall, and I'm 
>>>>>>>> wondering what, if anything, I should do to prepare.  I am 
>>>>>>>> already working with rehab here to get me a note taker, and I 
>>>>>>>> will be starting the paper work for disability services soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any tech tips I should know or programs with which I 
>>>>>>>> should familiarize myself at this time?  I am already 
>>>>>>>> proficient with Word and Outlook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any piece of technology that you couldn't live without 
>>>>>>>> in law school?  I'll have my laptop of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My university is inviting us to take a law school prep course.  
>>>>>>>> I have no clue if it's accessible, but has anyone taken 
>>>>>>>> something like this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for all the questions.  I have an arts background, and 
>>>>>>>> I'm aware that law school is unlike anything I've ever done 
>>>>>>>> academically.
>>>>>>>> Despite my nerves, I am invested in doing the absolute best I 
>>>>>>>> can and diving into learning all the things.  So, any advice 
>>>>>>>> would be welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a wonderful weekend!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>>>>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of 
>>>>>>>> the Blind Performing Arts Division
>>>>>>>>
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From seanziadeh at gmail.com  Thu May 21 16:08:13 2020
From: seanziadeh at gmail.com (Sean Ziadeh)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 12:08:13 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Mentor Search - Elder Law and Disability Rights
Message-ID: <CAPeiTXn9hE+MuAswQOS0oHem9NUCDfKO1vQ53cYf=x9Dxk4WPw@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon.

As I shift my professional focus to serving families with special needs,
whether related to caring for elderly parents or children with
disabilities, I am interested in connecting with a seasoned mentor.
Preferably this mentor would be in Michigan, but not essential.

I'd appreciate any guidance you may provide.

Thank you.

Sean C. Ziadeh

(248) 320-3208

seanziadeh at gmail.com



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Who would have predicted the coronavirus crisis and its impact on businesses—health and safety, financial, employment and so much more. These problems are exacerbated for small business owners, especially immigrant business owners. Many employers are now considering options that they did not envision thinking about for many years, if at all. The panel features insight from 5 legal experts in the areas of: Labor Issues, Workers’ Compensation, Real Estate/Finance Issues, and Immigration. The panelists will discuss various options that can be considered now as well as how they might incorporate them into preparing a crisis management plan.

 

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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 02:59:53 2020
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 21:59:53 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Drivers
Message-ID: <5F80AD11-02F5-48CD-9C94-4A1F6DD26CE2@gmail.com>

All,  


Good evening. How do you go from the office to court to client meetings? Do you get rides from coworkers or hire a private driver? If you hire a driver, is that an accommodation through work, or do you pay out of pocket?   


Warmth,  

Sanho



From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Wed May 27 17:49:44 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 11:49:44 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S.
 Department of Justice
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From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) <DOJlawjobs at usdoj.gov> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:29 AM
To: Undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of
Justice

 

Good Afternoon,

Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the
U.S. Department of Justice. Please post on your internal sites and
distribute to any interested audience, including law student organizations
and other affinity groups. 

The Department of Justice places a high value on diversity of experiences
and perspectives and encourages applications from all qualified individuals
from all ethnic and racial backgrounds, veterans
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/veteran-recruitment> , LGBT individuals,
and persons with disabilities
<https://www.justice.gov/careers/disability-hiring> .  We welcome
applications from candidates who are interested in positively contributing
to Justice and hope that you will consider joining the dedicated public
servants at the Department of Justice.  To learn more about Justice and our
legal careers, please visit our website at
https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers.

In addition to the below job opportunities, the United States Trustee
Program is accepting applications for the position of U.S. Trustee for
Region 21. For more information on how to apply, please see
https://www.justice.gov/ust/file/recruitment_notice.pdf/download.


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Northern District of California 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title AUSA <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/ausa-118>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State California 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 26, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Northern District of California 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title AUSA <https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/ausa-117>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State California 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 26, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Criminal Division (CRM) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Resident Legal Advisor, El Salvador
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/resident-legal-advisor-el-salvado
r-3>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 26, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Western District of Pennsylvania 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) - Criminal
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/AUSA-PAW-CRM2>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Pennsylvania 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 22, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Office of Information Policy (OIP) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Law Student Volunteer (Fall 2020, Spring 2021 or Summer 2021)
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/law-student-volunteer-fall-2020-s
pring-2021-or-summer-2021>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 21, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Western District of Texas 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Supervisory Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-
1113> 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Texas 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 21, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization Civil Rights Division (CRT) 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Trial Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/trial-attorney-441>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State District of Columbia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 20, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Southern District of Texas 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-
1110>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=field_va_locatio
n_administrative_area&sort=asc> State Texas 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=changed&sort=asc
> Posted/ Updated May 20, 2020 


 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=name&sort=asc>
Hiring Organization USAO Eastern District of Virginia 

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
ce_area=All&field_va_location_administrative_area=All&order=title&sort=asc>
Job Title Assistant United States Attorney
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/job/assistant-united-states-attorney-
1112>  

 
<https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers/vacancies?position=All&tid=All&practi
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu May 28 20:56:16 2020
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 16:56:16 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] LSAT Practice Test in Braille Format
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Hello everyone. Good afternoon. Hope all of you are doing well. Do any of you know where can I find LSAT practice test materials in Braille format? Is there any agency that could provide them? Just wondering since I want to familiarize myself with the  test format, if I decide to take the exam in Braille.   I don’t own a braille printer to print braille copies, so finding an agency that could provide some will be a good alternative for now. I look forward to hear from you soon.Thanks so much for reading!

Helga Schreiber 
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From: careerconnector at monstergovt.com<mailto:careerconnector at monstergovt.com> [mailto:careerconnector at monstergovt.com]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 3:39 AM
To: Maurer, Patricia <PMaurer at nfb.org<mailto:PMaurer at nfb.org>>
Subject: Diversity Notification

National Federation of the Blind
Sir/Madam

Dear Sir/Madam:

Your organization and its members might be interested in the following vacancy announcement:

Announcement Number: ATTY-OEA-2020-003

Vacancy Description: Attorney-Advisor (General)

Open Period: 05/29/2020 to 06/19/2020

Series/Grade: GS-0905B Attorney Advisor-12/13/14

Salary: (USD) $86,335 - (USD) $157,709

Hiring Agency: Federal Communications Commission

Duty Location: Washington, DC, US

For more information, please visit the vacancy announcement located at https://careerconnector.jobs.treas.gov/cc/fcc/vacancy/viewVacancyDetail!execute.hms?orgId=1751&jnum=199170.

Thank you.

Human Resources Management
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From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Fri May 29 18:16:12 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (K. Scott Carlson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 14:16:12 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Extremely strange MS Word and JAWS Issue
Message-ID: <F3FB44A1-2906-40C7-8BE0-1F8AA5828A60@gmail.com>

I just got a new work computer and was finally getting JAWS and Word set up. For some reason after altering some of the options in Word's options menu, JAWS now reads every punctuation mark in the entire document, even though I don't have it set to do that and it doesn't in any other application. This seemed to happen only after I marked a citation, but I have no idea why or how. Any help is much appreciated.

From kelbycarlson at gmail.com  Fri May 29 18:23:12 2020
From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (K. Scott Carlson)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 14:23:12 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Marking Citations in Word with JAWS
Message-ID: <E3992623-58C9-485B-AE15-C33583D52D89@gmail.com>

When I used NVDA and Word to create my tables of citations, I had no problem editing both the long text and short text in the "mark citation" dialogue boxes. But now that I've switched to JAWS, only the short cite is available to edit; the long cite area is just blank. Can anyone with a lot of briefing experience offer a fix to this?

From slabarre at labarrelaw.com  Fri May 29 19:41:48 2020
From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 13:41:48 -0600
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Philosophy Friday on Mountain Time at 5 Tonight!
In-Reply-To: <012901d635d4$2b9a4e00$82ceea00$@nfbco.org>
References: <012901d635d4$2b9a4e00$82ceea00$@nfbco.org>
Message-ID: <018601d635f1$3202e7d0$9608b770$@labarrelaw.com>

Good afternoon Blindlaw!

 

 

As some may know, the NFB of Colorado has been putting on Zoom calls pretty
much every week night since this pandemic took hold which range in a wide
variety of topics.  We have come to call Friday's call, Philosophy Friday.
In any event, I thought many of you would find tonight's discussion
fascinating, thus I am sharing the announcement with you.  

 

 

Cheers!!

 

Scott

 

From: kevan at nfbco.org <kevan at nfbco.org> 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 10:14 AM
To: kevan at nfbco.org
Subject: Philosophy Friday on Mountain Time at 5 Tonight!

 

Tonight, Friday, May 29, we present a special Mountain Time at 5. What is
the Future of Blindness in America. What is the Future of the National
Federation of the Blind. What is the Future of the Randolph-Sheppard
Program. Tonight we want to hear from you. Tonight we will pose provocative
questions. Tonight we will also be using the polling feature of zoom for
folks who are not dialing in. But we will make sure everyone can
participate. 

 

So, let's start by asking everyone what they think life will look like for
blind people in ten years, 20 years, etc.  How much will technology
fundamentally change the nature of being blind?  How will sources of
artificial vision  and artificial intelligence  change the way we live?  A
key question, in the brave new world, what will the role of the NFB be?
What will be our relevance?  Will there be a need for the NFB?  Will we fade
away or shift our focus to more of providing services and doing more
international work? 

 

We do hope you will join us and invite others. Whether you are from Colorado
or across the Nation you are welcome and encouraged to join us on Zoom.
Encourage chapter members to join us. 

https://zoom.us/j/5955066474?pwd=WDN5Y0lHZytjMG1McmtmY0treFdtQT09 

 

Meeting ID: 595 506 6474 

Password: 015571 

 

One tap mobile 

+13462487799,,5955066474#

 

 

At Your Service,

Kevan Worley

Manager, NFBCO Project Literacy

Cell: (303)929-2369

www.nfbco.org <http://www.nfbco.org/>  

 

 


From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Fri May 29 22:43:30 2020
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 22:43:30 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Softphone
Message-ID: <8c157d653256486e93ba5876e1290bf9@holsteinlaw.com>

Does anyone have experience with software based access to a company phone system? If so, what are you using, and how accessible is it? My IT consultant was talking about it, and it sounded much better than using my cell to call clients while I am working from home. He wanted me to change phone providers, however, and I am not interested in getting into that if I don't have to. AT&T may have a lot of shortcomings, but the service is working fine, and the fiber connection to the internet is hard to beat. Thanks for any feedback.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com


From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Fri May 29 22:47:57 2020
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 22:47:57 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
Message-ID: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>

Does anyone have experience acting as mediator on a Zoom mediation? If so, could you offer some tips or tricks either on or off list? I have had several inquiries as to whether I would offer that service, but have only participated on Zoom as an invitee, not as a host, and especially not where I am responsible for protecting the confidentiality of the proceedings. Thanks in advance.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com


From NSingh at cov.com  Fri May 29 23:31:34 2020
From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 23:31:34 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
In-Reply-To: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>
References: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>
Message-ID: <2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>

Hi Brian,

Zoom is not a good platform to maintain privilege or confidentiality. We are not allowed to use it for this reason at my firm. Now, that being said, I understand that there is an enterprise version of Zoom that handles confidentiality in a more robust way. I have not used Zoom enterprise, so I do not much know more than that.

WebEx has better security, and I am right now trying to assess how well its other non-audio features work with JAWS. Incidentally, WebEx may be a good soft phone alternative, which I believe you raised in a prior email.

Another platform that has been getting more traction is Microsoft Teams, which is better than Zoom but not as good as WebEx. It may be comparable to Skype for security purposes. I am not a cyber security professional, so my response is informed by my firm's policy on virtual conferencing applications.

The other thing to keep in mind is that all these applications may behave differently (or not at all) when it comes to using them due to the technical capabilities of the other participants, your internet signal, or your firm's VPN. It can get complicated. For instance, we recently completed a witness interview with a combination of Skype and WebEx. Skype handled the audio communication and WebEx the documents, even though WebEx is supposed to be an all-in-one application.

Regards,
Nikki
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:48 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations

[EXTERNAL]

Does anyone have experience acting as mediator on a Zoom mediation? If so, could you offer some tips or tricks either on or off list? I have had several inquiries as to whether I would offer that service, but have only participated on Zoom as an invitee, not as a host, and especially not where I am responsible for protecting the confidentiality of the proceedings. Thanks in advance.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com

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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Fri May 29 23:49:27 2020
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 23:49:27 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
In-Reply-To: <2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>
	<2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <9adb71b966254b6a82461aa7d663019d@holsteinlaw.com>

Thanks Nikki, that's great information. I will definitely look into WebEx. I did a conference call today and an oral argument last week using the WebEx audio, and it was fine. With all the security issues I might well keep on mediating by phone, though that can be pretty cumbersome. I did settle a case that way earlier this month. Have a great weekend.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Singh, Nandini <NSingh at cov.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations

Hi Brian,

Zoom is not a good platform to maintain privilege or confidentiality. We are not allowed to use it for this reason at my firm. Now, that being said, I understand that there is an enterprise version of Zoom that handles confidentiality in a more robust way. I have not used Zoom enterprise, so I do not much know more than that.

WebEx has better security, and I am right now trying to assess how well its other non-audio features work with JAWS. Incidentally, WebEx may be a good soft phone alternative, which I believe you raised in a prior email.

Another platform that has been getting more traction is Microsoft Teams, which is better than Zoom but not as good as WebEx. It may be comparable to Skype for security purposes. I am not a cyber security professional, so my response is informed by my firm's policy on virtual conferencing applications.

The other thing to keep in mind is that all these applications may behave differently (or not at all) when it comes to using them due to the technical capabilities of the other participants, your internet signal, or your firm's VPN. It can get complicated. For instance, we recently completed a witness interview with a combination of Skype and WebEx. Skype handled the audio communication and WebEx the documents, even though WebEx is supposed to be an all-in-one application.

Regards,
Nikki
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:48 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations

[EXTERNAL]

Does anyone have experience acting as mediator on a Zoom mediation? If so, could you offer some tips or tricks either on or off list? I have had several inquiries as to whether I would offer that service, but have only participated on Zoom as an invitee, not as a host, and especially not where I am responsible for protecting the confidentiality of the proceedings. Thanks in advance.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com

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From rothmanjd at gmail.com  Sat May 30 02:05:08 2020
From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 21:05:08 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
In-Reply-To: <2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
References: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>
	<2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
Message-ID: <6B78FA07-AE2F-452D-8FA2-CA882EA2C61E@gmail.com>

I just did one today and have one on Monday. I use Zoom all the time and it is fantastic. My preference is generally the iPhone or iPad app though the computer app does work fine. you want to make sure that you are not recording. I do have the enterprise version for my personal use and the government addition for work though and both have outstanding privacy. You should add a password when you schedule the appointment. If you are not sharing documents and such, then it’s really just the voice platform you’re worrying about. And of course being able to see one another. We do not use WebEx or teams because of encryption issues and also because of the cross platform challenges that recipients have.

Ronza Othman, President
National Federation of the Blind of Maryland
443-426-4110
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Zoom is not a good platform to maintain privilege or confidentiality. We are not allowed to use it for this reason at my firm. Now, that being said, I understand that there is an enterprise version of Zoom that handles confidentiality in a more robust way. I have not used Zoom enterprise, so I do not much know more than that.
> 
> WebEx has better security, and I am right now trying to assess how well its other non-audio features work with JAWS. Incidentally, WebEx may be a good soft phone alternative, which I believe you raised in a prior email.
> 
> Another platform that has been getting more traction is Microsoft Teams, which is better than Zoom but not as good as WebEx. It may be comparable to Skype for security purposes. I am not a cyber security professional, so my response is informed by my firm's policy on virtual conferencing applications.
> 
> The other thing to keep in mind is that all these applications may behave differently (or not at all) when it comes to using them due to the technical capabilities of the other participants, your internet signal, or your firm's VPN. It can get complicated. For instance, we recently completed a witness interview with a combination of Skype and WebEx. Skype handled the audio communication and WebEx the documents, even though WebEx is supposed to be an all-in-one application.
> 
> Regards,
> Nikki
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:48 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
> 
> [EXTERNAL]
> 
> Does anyone have experience acting as mediator on a Zoom mediation? If so, could you offer some tips or tricks either on or off list? I have had several inquiries as to whether I would offer that service, but have only participated on Zoom as an invitee, not as a host, and especially not where I am responsible for protecting the confidentiality of the proceedings. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization
> 
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> P: 951-682-7030
> F: 951-684-8061
> E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> www.holsteinlaw.com
> 
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From rodalcidonis at gmail.com  Sat May 30 04:12:48 2020
From: rodalcidonis at gmail.com (rodalcidonis at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 00:12:48 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Softphone
In-Reply-To: <8c157d653256486e93ba5876e1290bf9@holsteinlaw.com>
References: <8c157d653256486e93ba5876e1290bf9@holsteinlaw.com>
Message-ID: <236630B0C6F14E27837C50CFE248810E@RodPC>

Google voice has been working well for me for more than 7 years. I have also 
used CSIPSimple with VOIP credentials.

Are you just looking for an extra number? or are you looking to spoof your 
caller id...







Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:43 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List
Cc: Brian Unitt
Subject: [blindLaw] Softphone

Does anyone have experience with software based access to a company phone 
system? If so, what are you using, and how accessible is it? My IT 
consultant was talking about it, and it sounded much better than using my 
cell to call clients while I am working from home. He wanted me to change 
phone providers, however, and I am not interested in getting into that if I 
don't have to. AT&T may have a lot of shortcomings, but the service is 
working fine, and the fiber connection to the internet is hard to beat. 
Thanks for any feedback.

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com

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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Sat May 30 17:06:13 2020
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 17:06:13 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
In-Reply-To: <6B78FA07-AE2F-452D-8FA2-CA882EA2C61E@gmail.com>
References: <b18673bfc43243fc8cc403e4d74621bd@holsteinlaw.com>
	<2896cee53e924125a3ff0285025c6ccc@CBIvEX04eUS.cov.com>
	<6B78FA07-AE2F-452D-8FA2-CA882EA2C61E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b4f295ba221492484f2d395a70e5357@holsteinlaw.com>

Hi Ronza,

Thank you for that. Do you use the breakout room feature, and if so how does that work for you?

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization

Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
A Professional Corporation
4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
Riverside, CA 92501
P: 951-682-7030
F: 951-684-8061
E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
www.holsteinlaw.com


-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ronza Othman via BlindLaw
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 7:05 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ronza Othman <rothmanjd at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations

I just did one today and have one on Monday. I use Zoom all the time and it is fantastic. My preference is generally the iPhone or iPad app though the computer app does work fine. you want to make sure that you are not recording. I do have the enterprise version for my personal use and the government addition for work though and both have outstanding privacy. You should add a password when you schedule the appointment. If you are not sharing documents and such, then it’s really just the voice platform you’re worrying about. And of course being able to see one another. We do not use WebEx or teams because of encryption issues and also because of the cross platform challenges that recipients have.

Ronza Othman, President
National Federation of the Blind of Maryland
443-426-4110
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Zoom is not a good platform to maintain privilege or confidentiality. We are not allowed to use it for this reason at my firm. Now, that being said, I understand that there is an enterprise version of Zoom that handles confidentiality in a more robust way. I have not used Zoom enterprise, so I do not much know more than that.
> 
> WebEx has better security, and I am right now trying to assess how well its other non-audio features work with JAWS. Incidentally, WebEx may be a good soft phone alternative, which I believe you raised in a prior email.
> 
> Another platform that has been getting more traction is Microsoft Teams, which is better than Zoom but not as good as WebEx. It may be comparable to Skype for security purposes. I am not a cyber security professional, so my response is informed by my firm's policy on virtual conferencing applications.
> 
> The other thing to keep in mind is that all these applications may behave differently (or not at all) when it comes to using them due to the technical capabilities of the other participants, your internet signal, or your firm's VPN. It can get complicated. For instance, we recently completed a witness interview with a combination of Skype and WebEx. Skype handled the audio communication and WebEx the documents, even though WebEx is supposed to be an all-in-one application.
> 
> Regards,
> Nikki
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:48 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Brian Unitt <BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com>
> Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
> 
> [EXTERNAL]
> 
> Does anyone have experience acting as mediator on a Zoom mediation? If so, could you offer some tips or tricks either on or off list? I have had several inquiries as to whether I would offer that service, but have only participated on Zoom as an invitee, not as a host, and especially not where I am responsible for protecting the confidentiality of the proceedings. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Brian
> Brian C. Unitt
> Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
> State Bar of California, Board of Legal Specialization
> 
> Holstein, Taylor and Unitt
> A Professional Corporation
> 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103
> Riverside, CA 92501
> P: 951-682-7030
> F: 951-684-8061
> E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com
> www.holsteinlaw.com
> 
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From rothmanjd at gmail.com  Sat May 30 17:42:15 2020
From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 13:42:15 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Zoom mediations
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I do, for caucuses.  I manually move folks into them when they are caucusing or meeting privately.  It works fine - though the PC app is better for that than the iPhone app.


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Hi Ronza,

Thank you for that. Do you use the breakout room feature, and if so how does that work for you?

Brian
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I just did one today and have one on Monday. I use Zoom all the time and it is fantastic. My preference is generally the iPhone or iPad app though the computer app does work fine. you want to make sure that you are not recording. I do have the enterprise version for my personal use and the government addition for work though and both have outstanding privacy. You should add a password when you schedule the appointment. If you are not sharing documents and such, then it’s really just the voice platform you’re worrying about. And of course being able to see one another. We do not use WebEx or teams because of encryption issues and also because of the cross platform challenges that recipients have.

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> On May 29, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Zoom is not a good platform to maintain privilege or confidentiality. We are not allowed to use it for this reason at my firm. Now, that being said, I understand that there is an enterprise version of Zoom that handles confidentiality in a more robust way. I have not used Zoom enterprise, so I do not much know more than that.
> 
> WebEx has better security, and I am right now trying to assess how well its other non-audio features work with JAWS. Incidentally, WebEx may be a good soft phone alternative, which I believe you raised in a prior email.
> 
> Another platform that has been getting more traction is Microsoft Teams, which is better than Zoom but not as good as WebEx. It may be comparable to Skype for security purposes. I am not a cyber security professional, so my response is informed by my firm's policy on virtual conferencing applications.
> 
> The other thing to keep in mind is that all these applications may behave differently (or not at all) when it comes to using them due to the technical capabilities of the other participants, your internet signal, or your firm's VPN. It can get complicated. For instance, we recently completed a witness interview with a combination of Skype and WebEx. Skype handled the audio communication and WebEx the documents, even though WebEx is supposed to be an all-in-one application.
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> Regards,
> Nikki
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