From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Oct 1 14:32:17 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 08:32:17 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011701d697ff$aa6db720$ff492560$@labarrelaw.com> The usual weekly message from DOJ. Best, Scott From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:46 AM To: DOJlawjobs (OARM) Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Good morning, Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice. Please post on your internal sites and distribute to any interested audience, including law student organizations and other affinity groups. The Department of Justice places a high value on diversity of experiences and perspectives and encourages applications from all qualified individuals from all ethnic and racial backgrounds, veterans , LGBT individuals, and persons with disabilities . We welcome applications from candidates who are interested in positively contributing to Justice and hope that you will consider joining the dedicated public servants at the Department of Justice. To learn more about Justice and our legal careers, please visit our website at https://www.justice.gov/legal-careers. Attorney Vacancies & Volunteer Legal Internships Hiring Organization Job Title State Posted/ Updated Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Law Student Intern Virginia Posted/ Updated September 30, 2020 USAO District of Connecticut Criminal Assistant United States Attorney Multiple locations Posted/ Updated September 29, 2020 USAO Eastern District of Virginia Assistant United States Attorney Virginia Posted/ Updated September 29, 2020 Criminal Division (CRM) Resident Legal Advisor, Colombia Posted/ Updated September 29, 2020 Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA) Attorney Advisor District of Columbia Posted/ Updated September 29, 2020 USAO Southern District of West Virginia AUSA West Virginia Posted/ Updated September 28, 2020 USAO Western District of Kentucky Law Student Volunteer, Summer 2021 Kentucky Posted/ Updated September 28, 2020 Antitrust Division (ATR) Trial Attorney District of Columbia Posted/ Updated September 28, 2020 Antitrust Division (ATR) Trial Attorney (Digital Markets Counsel) District of Columbia Posted/ Updated September 28, 2020 Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) Immigration Judge Virginia Posted/ Updated September 25, 2020 USAO Southern District of Texas Law Student Intern -- Spring Semester 2021 Texas Posted/ Updated September 24, 2020 Manage Your Email: If you no longer wish to receive these email notifications, please reply to this email with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line. 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Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:22 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: Re: [blindLaw] The blue book, blue booking Hi Maura, I am also a 1L, so I am just learning myself, but I am also using the digital version of the bluebook. Although the files can be clunky at times, they are accessible and can be navigated with Jaws quick keys. I may be able to help give some pointers if you have questions about navigating the bluebook. Feel free to send me a text anytime. Bluebooking can be tough going, and it's my understanding that the hardest time for it is the beginning. Julie On 9/24/20, Diana Alves de Oliveira via BlindLaw wrote: > It looks to me like you have pretty much everything I have. I am a > lawyer overseas, but I graduated as a paralegal last year and have a > version of the blue book on the computer. I’m partial though, So I’m > not sure how much you need the accommodations are not. But I’m here if > you need me anyway according to my schedule. Thank you for sharing > your needs. This is a community can always reach out to. > > Diana Oliveira > NFBV Potomac Chapter, member > NFBF Legislative Committee, member > NFB Employment Committee, member > NABS, member > (305)988-2713 > dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com > >> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:50 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone: >> >> I am writing today in search of someone who has time and interest in >> discussing the subject line above. >> >> I am a product of the 1980s and 1990s school system. Therefore, >> having had some light perception at that time, Braille was not >> presented as my one and only/optimal text Resource. With this in >> mind, the advice I seek is regarding the digital realm of the bluebook. >> >> I am of course reaching out to other sources for information. My >> legal writing and research professor, my local Center for assistive >> technology, and I have a subscription to the digital blue book and a >> copy from Book share. It seems that there is no particular authority >> on this and I have to knit together a plan for moving forward. >> >> >> Please call the number below or email if by any chance you have some >> thoughts to share. Thanks so much everybody for your ongoing support. >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dianaoliveira58 >> %40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmai > l.com > -- Julie A. 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Convincing Congress, organizing awareness / action, etc. is very much not in my skill set — so if it's yours, please speak up & take the lead. # Hashtag #OpenCourts (based on the bill's apt name) # Why you should act on the #OpenCourts Act I know, it's not as momentous as the headline news these days. We've had a crazy year. However: it's important, well written, necessary for transparency, bipartisan, judiciary-approved, uncontroversial, years overdue, & publicly unopposed* — and will have very extensive beneficial knock-on effects**. It should be a high priority for everyone working on transparency or civil rights in US federal government, especially given the great benefit:effort ratio. It should (AFAICT) be very easy to pass. It just needs attention from Congress. * Possible opponents: 1. DOJ (their budget subsidizes it) 2. Westlaw, LexisNexis, etc (undercuts their core business of selling access to public judicial records). It seems plausible to me that they're quietly lobbying against it. I've not actually heard of any such opposition; please LMK if you have. ** Feel free to talk to me off-list if you'd like details. This ties in closely to long term research I'm currently doing on millions of court records. Literally dozens of important issues this'll shed light on, all are either first release or totally paywalled. Research partners wanted. # Timeline HR8235 was approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 15 — the day after it was introduced & referred. There's been no action since. doesn't even show an event for it coming out of committee (only markup), though that's what they voted unanimously. Approved motion to move to House floor w/ recommendation to pass is at , at the very end. I have no idea why. (If you're savvier than me & can interpret this, please LMK off-list.) # Twitter & relevant congress members My tweet is @ if you'd like to copy or RT: > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein @SpeakerPelosi @SenateMajLdr Will you ensure the #OpenCourts Act (HR 8235) passes this year? It's bipartisan & long overdue. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8235 I chose that @ mention list based on relevance & seniority. But again, this isn't my skill area — so for your convenience, here are all the relevant Congress members, AFAICT. (This should be more or less ordered by seniority, except within the 2 members lists.) Full House & Senate leadership @SpeakerPelosi @ChuckGrassley @LeaderHoyer @SenateMajLdr @GOPLeader @SenSchumer House Judiciary Committee leadership @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @RepMGS courts subcommittee leadership @RepHankJohnson @RepMarthaRoby @RepLouCorrea sponsors @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins * note duplicate: Johnson is both subcommittee chair & sponsor. courts subcommittee members @RepGregStanton @RepJeffries @RepTedLieu @RepTedDeutch @RepKarenBass @RepSwalwell @RepCohen @RepZoeLofgren @RepSteveChabot @RepEscobar @RepBenCline @GReschenthaler @RepAndyBiggs @RepMikeJohnson @RepSteveChabot @RepMattGaetz * note: mind that there are 2 "Rep. Johnson" on the subcommittee — Hank & Mike. Senate Judiciary Committee leadership @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein courts subcommittee leadership @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal courts subcommittee members @SenJohnKennedy @ChuckGrassley @SenJoniErnst @SenThomTillis @MikeCrapo @SenatorLeahy @SenAmyKlobuchar @SenWhitehouse @MazieHirono * note duplicate: Grassley is also senate president pro tem. Thanks! Sincerely, Sai President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 17:02 Sai wrote: > > I've read the text in full, and I think everyone should take action to support this. > > Anyone doing public interest related litigation, and literally all legal research related to US Federal cases, should be substantially benefitted. > > Full details below. In short, enacting the bill would mean that PACER (where all US federal court records are kept), within 2-3 years, has to > 1. add full text search (totally absent now except in third party products), > 2. be 508 compliant (major plus for blind people & computer based bulk data research), > 3. be centralized (right now it's run separately by each court), & > 4. be 100% free to everyone; > > 5. in the meantime, have a minimum billing threshold of $25k/quarter in the meantime; > > and > 6. limits filing fees to be proportional to dollar amounts at issue, with total exemption for pro se & poor (IFP) litigants — and double billing DOJ to help fund it. > > > * I have one reservation: it totally exempts prisoners from benefiting. That's in line with the Prisoner Litigation Reform Act, which imposed a lot of restrictions on prisoner litigants. I don't think this is fair or just… but it's the status quo, not a worsening, and probably open to legal challenge on that basis anyway. > > > Feel free to forward this etc however you see fit. I'd appreciate a CC & an email with link to any resulting posts, action, etc. > > > # Details > > > Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 > > > > All most relevant sections are excerpted & summarized below (by me). > > Markup: — starts at 8:33:26 (near the very end); most of the video is totally unrelated > > > Cosponsors: > > Rep. Doug Collins [R-GA-9] > * (202) 225-1605 > * House Judiciary Committee Democrat #5 > ** Courts, IP, & Internet subcommittee #1 (chair) > Rep. Hank Johnson, Jr. [D-GA-4] > * (202) 225-9893 > * Judiciary Republican #2 > ** subcommittee #3 > > Judiciary committee: (202) 225-3951 > Courts subcommittee: (202) 225-5741 > > > # Bill text excerpt & summary > > SEC. 2. MODERNIZATION OF ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEMS. > (a) Consolidation. > … [AOUSC & GSA] shall establish, maintain, and operate … one system for all public court records. > … > (3 & 4) [ Must include info from, and comply with, 2002 E-Government Act § 205 ] > > … > (c) Data Standards.-- > … > (2) Requirements. > … > (B) incorporate a widely accepted, nonproprietary, full text searchable, platform-independent computer-readable format; > … > (e) [ deadline: 2 years after enactment, plus one year it GSA asks for an extension ] > > > (f) Funds for Establishment, Operation, and Maintenance of Modernized Court Records System.-- > (1) Short term access fees to fund establishment of modernized court records system.-- > (A) [ amend 28 USC 1913 note to say AOUSC can ONLY charge fees over $25,000 per quarter ] > (B) [ any exceeds can be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > (C) [ effective immediately on enactment ] > > (2) Filing fees to fund operation and maintenance of modernized court records system. > (A) [ re-amend the same USC note to delete the above, together with the entire previous paragraphs a & b, and say > > (a) AOUSC can charge fees, per 28 USC §§ 1913, 1914, 1926, 1930, & 1932, only as necessary to maintain the new PACER: > (1)(A) based on amount of use > (1)(B) based on amount of damages claim & case complexity > (1)(C) counterclaim fee allowed > (1)(D) not at all for pro se & IFP litigants > (2) proof of claim/interest for FRBP 3002 & 3003 based on amount involved > > (b) use limited to Judiciary Information Technology Fund, 28 USC 612(c)(1)(A), for new PACER's costs > (c) fee schedule must be reviewed every 3 years > (d) exceeds can still be used per 28 USC 612(a) > ] > > (B) [ effective at the same time as the new PACER above, ie 2 or 3 years after enactment ] > > > SEC. 3. PUBLIC ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEM REQUIREMENT. > > (a) [ everything on PACER is free, starting on the same 2/3 year start date ] > > (b) [ AOUSC can add a 5 day max delay before public access, for some categories of records, subject to N&C and automatic 3 year expiration unless renewed per above, "based on a determination of a specific and substantial interest in restricting the public right of access to court records" ] > > (e) Funding for Public Access to Modernized Electronic Court Records System. > [ amend same USC note to add that funds for the 100% free PACER access will come from: > (1) billing DOJ equal to their PACER access fees, with inflation > (2) if that's not enough, filling fees, under the same rules / limits as the post-launch version of fees above ] > > > SEC. 4. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION. > > Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to-- > (1) affect the filing fees or other filing procedures for prisoners; or > (2) abrogate, limit, or modify the requirements [ in 28 USC 1915, the IFP statute ] > > > SEC. 5. DIGITAL ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. > > [ all of this must be Rehab Act § 508 accessible ] > > Sincerely, > Sai > President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) > > PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. > > Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. From sai at fiatfiendum.org Fri Oct 9 20:48:12 2020 From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 21:48:12 +0100 Subject: [blindLaw] Bipartisan bill to make PACER free & 508 accessible: Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Contrary to my last email, the judiciary does *not* approve. (Thanks to an anonymous list member for the correction, and a copy of the 2nd opposition letter below.) My apologies for propagating misinformation. Should've known better than to repeat Rep. Nadler's characterization without checking the record myself. So, the judiciary itself is the overt opposition. I hope it can be overcome. (The rest of my last email is still true, AFAIK.) The Judicial Conference filed two opposition letters: 1. a letter recycled from opposition to the Electronic Court Records Reform Act of 2019 (ECRRA) H.R. 1164 / S. 1064 (attached) It's a totally inaccessible rasterized PDF. A bit on the nose for irony, given that the bill would require PACER to be 508 accessible, and their letters exclusively blame pro ses for filing stuff that's inaccessible. I've attached a plain text file with the content. 2. a new letter re this bill (attached; can't find source online) Notably, they objected to having been characterized as being in favor of it: "Lastly, we must correct the record regarding the process by which this bill was developed. Statements were made during the Committee’s markup of the OCA on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, that “this bill has been crafted to be responsive to the needs and concerns of the Judicial Conference,” and “the language in H.R. 8235 was drafted to reflect [the Judicial Conference’s] input.” The Judicial Conference has consistently opposed previous iterations of this legislation that also raised filing fees to compensate for the elimination of PACER service fees and has repeatedly communicated those concerns to the Committee. The Judiciary did not provide input on the current draft of H.R. 8235, nor does OCA reflect the needs and concerns of the Judiciary or resolve the Conference’s access to justice concerns previously expressed and repeated herein." For contrast, here's Nadler's own statement: While at it, here's a retired judges' letter opposing the Judiciary's opposition: (attached) Read for yourself. Most of it is basically the same between the two versions. FWIW, here's my summary & commentary: 1. PACER costs ~$165 million/year. This would make that an unfunded mandate. Also, there are 2.9 million PACER users, with 507 million "requests for case information" in FY 2018. 2. 77% of active users don't get charged fees. The quarterly threshold for automatic fee waiver was just bumped from $15 to $30. * Sai: a. People still have to submit payment info, register, etc. A paywall isn't really "*Public Access* to Court Electronic Records", even if most people don't end up being charged. b. I've spent more than $30/quarter just getting dockets & documents in my own cases — let alone if I want to do basic legal research. c. Doing the *academic* research I want (which is, by necessity of topic, extremely broad) would cost me millions for what should be totally free — and prohibit me from sharing my work. (The supposed 501(c)(3) exemption is hyper limited — it requires a narrow, time-limited, jurisdiction-limited, pre-defined, judge-approved research topic. On top of that, you ave to agree to not re-share any documents obtained via PACER waiver. IMHO this is blatantly unconstitutional — the documents are public records; this is core 1st Am. speech; it's prior restraint; there's zero copyright; etc. Anyone interested in litigating this restriction, please get in touch.) 3. 87% of PACER revenue comes from <3% of active accounts, who are mainly big for-profits. * Sai: Great. So how about you only require money (or registration) from them? It's not hard to write a EULA that requires big corps to pay. Those users aren't going to just ignore such a requirement if it's legal; it doesn't have to be enforced on the front end. Lots of software uses the "free for everyone except the rich" honor system / post-hoc-lawsuit pricing model. 4. Filing fees shouldn't be "increased to generate revenue for Judiciary operations", especially since some "may not be proportionate users of PACER or may not even use PACER at all". * Sai: I agree with the premise. The implication is false, however. Most people who don't use PACER at all (or as much) are either IFP or pro se. The current bill prohibits charging extra fees to either group. Bill §§ 2(f)(2) & 3(e)(2), revised 28 USC 1913 note (a)(1)(B). 5. To pay for PACER by extra filing fees, fees would have to go up by ~$750 per case — to ~$1,100 district, $2,000 ch. 11 bankruptcy, $750 ch. 7 bankruptcy. This would be a deterrent to small litigants. * Sai: See the next item. The conclusion does flow from the premise, and would be bad — but that premise is self-inflicted. IMHO the current filing fees (~$400 district, $500 appellate) are already way off in *both* directions. For most people, it's already so high that it's a major deterrent or total bar. For big corps, it's literally a rounding error — a couple hours' worth of attorney fees. 6. It'd be "unworkable" to charge based on cause of action, since you can't tell how complex a given case will be, and filing fees are paid upfront. * Sai: This is disingenuous at best. a. Good enough to be workable ≠ perfect. It's true that the cause of action doesn't perfectly predict complexity, but a lot are pretty strong indicators (e.g. broadly speaking, copyright & patent cases can pay extra, civil rights cases can't). b. They could assign & charge filing fees at the end of the case, like is already done with e.g. assignment of costs for appeals, fee & cost awards, etc. The only reason to make someone pay upfront is as a bond/surety in case they can't (or won't) pay later. There are separate provisions which already allow courts to require upfront deposits like this, if justified. As an aside, this part actually made me laugh; "Only after discovery and a full understanding of the facts and legal theories can the complexity of a case be assessed – not at the time of filing." True as far as it goes, but coming from this source, rather disingenuous. It's a bitter catch-22 with the legal standards for getting an appointed lawyer. Somehow poor people end up getting screwed under every scenario: whether it's complex or not, and whether complexity is known upfront or only after a lot of development. 7. Centralizing CM/ECF, and making it text-searchable & machine-readable, would be hard. Pro ses file non-accessible documents. They're used to having it decentralized. It'd cost a lot (more than they can even estimate), and it'd be totally impossible to do within 2 years. * Sai: a. Yep, it'll cost; this should've been done right decades ago (when the ADA & Rehab Act were passed). Saying you won't do anything now to make it accessible just because some pro ses file on paper is bullshit. b. It's their own fault. AOUSC recently passed a rule *requiring* attorneys to file electronically, while *prohibiting* pro ses from doing so unless they first get permission. This means, e.g., that it's totally prohibited for a pro se to file the case opening documents electronically (because you can't request CM/ECF permission in a case that doesn't exist yet). You also can't file electronically if the court just refuses to rule on the motio, which is the actual policy of some courts (e.g. W.D. Wash.) for anyone with a pending IFP motion. When I made a proposal to change make pro se electronic filing *permitted but not required*, they rejected it on the basis of totally unsubstantiated (and IMHO unconstitutional) fearmongering. My argument included issues of machine-readability, accessibility, etc. Here's the full record of that if you're interested: c. "Not possible"? As a software developer, I don't believe it. And it's not going to get any more done while stalling. 8. Charging bankruptcy creditors for filing a proof of claim/interest is unfair, because they're not opting in to litigation, just trying to get paid back on debts. * Sai: don't know enough about bankruptcy procedure (& actual practice) to assess this. 9. Making PACER free would be a security risk, and it might cause a lot of server load if people try to scrape it in bulk. * Sai: As someone with both computer security & large-scale scraping experience: bullshit. a. Throttling does not require registration. Heavy users can still register to get an API key for bulk access. This is how basically all such services work. b. Downloading all public records is a *good* thing. Don't act like you have some kind of *right* to charge for access to it. c. Third party access would result in the records being available elsewhere, thereby making the load on PACER lighter in the long run (after the initial scraping). d. There's zero substantiation for (or detail of) supposed "significant security concerns", and in my expert opinion, there in fact are none. They might well create some vulnerability through sheer incompetence, but that's not the fault of the spec. Not saying it's trivial (it isn't), buit there's proof by counterexample: archive.org serves way more data, with no registration requirement (it's optional, and even that's just an email), to anyone in the world who wants it, 100% free. 10. It would cause privacy issues by making GSA responsible for redactions. * Sai: WTF? There's nothing in the bill that "transfers the responsibility for the redaction of records from the parties to the AO and the [GSA]" AFAICT. This is FRCvP 5.2 / FRCrP 49.1, and you have to re-agree to redact literally every single time you sign in to CM/ECF — it's an extra checkbox / popup. 11. They're already improving search functionality. * Sai: True, but inapposite and woefully insufficient. PCL doesn't even allow full field search. It's a far cry from full text search, let alone the capability of e.g. Westlaw/Lexis. 12. They'd rather it be funded by appropriations, not filing fees. * Sai: On this, I fully agree. But next best is to make rich & burdensome litigants pay for it, which is what this bill says to do. Note that they lost a class action lawsuit for misusing PACER funds and overcharging, and just lost again on appeal. Here're the cites if you want to read: National Veterans Legal Services Program v. United States No. 16-745, 291 F.Supp.3d 123 (D. D.C. 2018) Nos. 2019-1081, 2019-1083 (Fed. Cir. Aug. 6, 2020) "These interlocutory cross-appeals challenge the district court's interpretation of a statutory note to 28 U.S.C. § 1913 permitting the federal judiciary to charge "reasonable fees" for "access to information available through automatic data processing equipment." Plaintiffs contend that under this provision unlawfully excessive fees have been charged for accessing federal court records through the Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) system and that the district court identifies too little unlawful excess. The government argues that the district court identifies too much (and also that the district court lacked jurisdiction). We conclude that the district court got it just right. We therefore affirm and remand for further proceedings." Sincerely, Sai President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:33 PM Sai wrote: > > Could y'all please help push this to pass before the session ends? > > It'd be a shame if it died as a casualty of all the post-RBG / > upcoming-election / COVID-19 craziness. > > Convincing Congress, organizing awareness / action, etc. is very much > not in my skill set — so if it's yours, please speak up & take the > lead. > > > # Hashtag > > #OpenCourts (based on the bill's apt name) > > > # Why you should act on the #OpenCourts Act > > I know, it's not as momentous as the headline news these days. We've > had a crazy year. > > However: it's important, well written, necessary for transparency, > bipartisan, judiciary-approved, uncontroversial, years overdue, & > publicly unopposed* — and will have very extensive beneficial knock-on > effects**. > > It should be a high priority for everyone working on transparency or > civil rights in US federal government, especially given the great > benefit:effort ratio. > > It should (AFAICT) be very easy to pass. It just needs attention from Congress. > > > * Possible opponents: > 1. DOJ (their budget subsidizes it) > 2. Westlaw, LexisNexis, etc (undercuts their core business of selling > access to public judicial records). > > It seems plausible to me that they're quietly lobbying against it. > I've not actually heard of any such opposition; please LMK if you > have. > > ** Feel free to talk to me off-list if you'd like details. This ties > in closely to long term research I'm currently doing on millions of > court records. Literally dozens of important issues this'll shed light > on, all are either first release or totally paywalled. Research > partners wanted. > > > # Timeline > > HR8235 was approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 15 — the > day after it was introduced & referred. > > There's been no action since. > > doesn't > even show an event for it coming out of committee (only markup), > though that's what they voted unanimously. Approved motion to move to > House floor w/ recommendation to pass is at > , at the very end. > > I have no idea why. (If you're savvier than me & can interpret this, > please LMK off-list.) > > > # Twitter & relevant congress members > > My tweet is @ > if you'd like to copy or RT: > > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein @SpeakerPelosi @SenateMajLdr Will you ensure the #OpenCourts Act (HR 8235) passes this year? It's bipartisan & long overdue. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8235 > > > I chose that @ mention list based on relevance & seniority. But again, > this isn't my skill area — so for your convenience, here are all the > relevant Congress members, AFAICT. (This should be more or less > ordered by seniority, except within the 2 members lists.) > > > Full House & Senate leadership > @SpeakerPelosi @ChuckGrassley @LeaderHoyer @SenateMajLdr @GOPLeader @SenSchumer > > > House Judiciary Committee > leadership > @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @RepMGS > > courts subcommittee leadership > @RepHankJohnson @RepMarthaRoby @RepLouCorrea > > sponsors > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins > * note duplicate: Johnson is both subcommittee chair & sponsor. > > courts subcommittee members > @RepGregStanton @RepJeffries @RepTedLieu @RepTedDeutch @RepKarenBass > @RepSwalwell @RepCohen @RepZoeLofgren @RepSteveChabot @RepEscobar > @RepBenCline @GReschenthaler @RepAndyBiggs @RepMikeJohnson > @RepSteveChabot @RepMattGaetz > * note: mind that there are 2 "Rep. Johnson" on the subcommittee — Hank & Mike. > > > Senate Judiciary Committee > leadership > @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein > > courts subcommittee leadership > @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal > > courts subcommittee members > @SenJohnKennedy @ChuckGrassley @SenJoniErnst @SenThomTillis @MikeCrapo > @SenatorLeahy @SenAmyKlobuchar @SenWhitehouse @MazieHirono > * note duplicate: Grassley is also senate president pro tem. > > > Thanks! > > Sincerely, > Sai > President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) > > PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. > > Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 17:02 Sai wrote: > > > > I've read the text in full, and I think everyone should take action to support this. > > > > Anyone doing public interest related litigation, and literally all legal research related to US Federal cases, should be substantially benefitted. > > > > Full details below. In short, enacting the bill would mean that PACER (where all US federal court records are kept), within 2-3 years, has to > > 1. add full text search (totally absent now except in third party products), > > 2. be 508 compliant (major plus for blind people & computer based bulk data research), > > 3. be centralized (right now it's run separately by each court), & > > 4. be 100% free to everyone; > > > > 5. in the meantime, have a minimum billing threshold of $25k/quarter in the meantime; > > > > and > > 6. limits filing fees to be proportional to dollar amounts at issue, with total exemption for pro se & poor (IFP) litigants — and double billing DOJ to help fund it. > > > > > > * I have one reservation: it totally exempts prisoners from benefiting. That's in line with the Prisoner Litigation Reform Act, which imposed a lot of restrictions on prisoner litigants. I don't think this is fair or just… but it's the status quo, not a worsening, and probably open to legal challenge on that basis anyway. > > > > > > Feel free to forward this etc however you see fit. I'd appreciate a CC & an email with link to any resulting posts, action, etc. > > > > > > # Details > > > > > > Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 > > > > > > > > All most relevant sections are excerpted & summarized below (by me). > > > > Markup: — starts at 8:33:26 (near the very end); most of the video is totally unrelated > > > > > > Cosponsors: > > > > Rep. Doug Collins [R-GA-9] > > * (202) 225-1605 > > * House Judiciary Committee Democrat #5 > > ** Courts, IP, & Internet subcommittee #1 (chair) > > Rep. Hank Johnson, Jr. [D-GA-4] > > * (202) 225-9893 > > * Judiciary Republican #2 > > ** subcommittee #3 > > > > Judiciary committee: (202) 225-3951 > > Courts subcommittee: (202) 225-5741 > > > > > > # Bill text excerpt & summary > > > > SEC. 2. MODERNIZATION OF ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEMS. > > (a) Consolidation. > > … [AOUSC & GSA] shall establish, maintain, and operate … one system for all public court records. > > … > > (3 & 4) [ Must include info from, and comply with, 2002 E-Government Act § 205 ] > > > > … > > (c) Data Standards.-- > > … > > (2) Requirements. > > … > > (B) incorporate a widely accepted, nonproprietary, full text searchable, platform-independent computer-readable format; > > … > > (e) [ deadline: 2 years after enactment, plus one year it GSA asks for an extension ] > > > > > > (f) Funds for Establishment, Operation, and Maintenance of Modernized Court Records System.-- > > (1) Short term access fees to fund establishment of modernized court records system.-- > > (A) [ amend 28 USC 1913 note to say AOUSC can ONLY charge fees over $25,000 per quarter ] > > (B) [ any exceeds can be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > > (C) [ effective immediately on enactment ] > > > > (2) Filing fees to fund operation and maintenance of modernized court records system. > > (A) [ re-amend the same USC note to delete the above, together with the entire previous paragraphs a & b, and say > > > > (a) AOUSC can charge fees, per 28 USC §§ 1913, 1914, 1926, 1930, & 1932, only as necessary to maintain the new PACER: > > (1)(A) based on amount of use > > (1)(B) based on amount of damages claim & case complexity > > (1)(C) counterclaim fee allowed > > (1)(D) not at all for pro se & IFP litigants > > (2) proof of claim/interest for FRBP 3002 & 3003 based on amount involved > > > > (b) use limited to Judiciary Information Technology Fund, 28 USC 612(c)(1)(A), for new PACER's costs > > (c) fee schedule must be reviewed every 3 years > > (d) exceeds can still be used per 28 USC 612(a) > > ] > > > > (B) [ effective at the same time as the new PACER above, ie 2 or 3 years after enactment ] > > > > > > SEC. 3. PUBLIC ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEM REQUIREMENT. > > > > (a) [ everything on PACER is free, starting on the same 2/3 year start date ] > > > > (b) [ AOUSC can add a 5 day max delay before public access, for some categories of records, subject to N&C and automatic 3 year expiration unless renewed per above, "based on a determination of a specific and substantial interest in restricting the public right of access to court records" ] > > > > (e) Funding for Public Access to Modernized Electronic Court Records System. > > [ amend same USC note to add that funds for the 100% free PACER access will come from: > > (1) billing DOJ equal to their PACER access fees, with inflation > > (2) if that's not enough, filling fees, under the same rules / limits as the post-launch version of fees above ] > > > > > > SEC. 4. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION. > > > > Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to-- > > (1) affect the filing fees or other filing procedures for prisoners; or > > (2) abrogate, limit, or modify the requirements [ in 28 USC 1915, the IFP statute ] > > > > > > SEC. 5. DIGITAL ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. > > > > [ all of this must be Rehab Act § 508 accessible ] > > > > Sincerely, > > Sai > > President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) > > > > PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. > > > > Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. -------------- next part -------------- JUDICIAL CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES JAMES C. DUFF, Secretary December 2, 2019 TO: Honorable Nita Lowey, Chairwoman Committee on Appropriations United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Honorable Kay Granger Ranking Member Committee on Appropriations United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Honorable Mike Quigley Chairman Subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government Committee on Appropriations United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Honorable Tom Graves Ranking Member Subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government Committee on Appropriations United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Dear Chairwoman Lowey, Chairman Quigley, and Representatives Granger and Graves: I write as Secretary of the Judicial Conference of the United States to express our opposition to H.R. 1164 and S. 2064, the “Electronic Court Records Reform Act of 2019,” (ECRRA). After studying the bills, the Judicial Conference opposes H.R. 1164 and S. 2064 for the reasons discussed below. Judicial Conference opposition to this legislation has also been communicated to the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. # The Judicial Conference Opposes ECRRA Legislation The Judicial Conference opposes ECRRA (H.R. 1164 and 8. 2064) and any other similar legislation that would eliminate the Judiciary’s statutory authorization to charge user fees for access to the Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) service without providing a workable alternative funding mechanism te finance the programs funded by current PACER fees and for any related new requirements in the legislation. To do otherwise would impose a crippling unfunded mandate on the Judiciary of approximately $165 million. Further, the Judicial Conference opposes legislation, including provisions in the Senate ECRRA bill (S. 2064), that would authorize the Judiciary to increase filing fees to compensate for the elimination of PACER user fees, or require the Judiciary to structure such filing fees commensurate with the burden imposed on the court by the party (with a lesser fee charged to individual filers). I assure you that the Federal Judiciary shares Congress’s commitment to openness and accessibility to the courts and ensuring that the work of the courts is as transparent as possible. And, while H.R. 1164 and S. 2064 have the ostensible purpose of seeking to make the Judiciary’s PACER service “free to the public,” the proposed legislation could impose substantial new costs on taxpayers or litigants and establish technical requirements that are unlikely to be achievable. # User-Based PACER Fees Have Worked Well In 1991, Congress authorized the Judicial Conference to prescribe reasonable fees for access to court electronic records, The small percentage of PACER users that pay any fee are charged commensurate with the amount of data they access via PACER from the Judiciary’s case management and electronic case files (CM/ECF) database. This user-based funding arrangement has worked well and has provided an unprecedented level of access to the federal courts, while providing a source of revenue to allow the Judiciary to maintain PACER, as well as to develop and introduce new technologies to expand public access. There are approximately 2.9 million registered PACER users and in FY 2018 alone, PACER processed more than 507 million requests for case information. Most users already have free access to PACER through fee waivers and exemptions, The Judicial Conference has authorized exemptions for many classes of users, including indigents, bankruptcy case trustees, pro bono attorneys, and Section 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organizations. In addition, the Judicial Conference recently approved an increase to the quarterly waiver from $15.00 to $30.00, effective January 1, 2020, which will result in no fees being charged to approximately 77 percent of active users. Of the remaining users who do incur fees, most are “power users,” generally large commercial entities, many of whom recoup their PACER costs by repackaging and selling PACER information for a profit. Their utilization of PACER far exceeds that of the typical user. _Approximately 87 percent of total PACER revenue comes from less than 3 percent of the active accounts._ The Judiciary’s FY 2020 interim financial plan includes approximately $165 million in projected Electronic Public Access (EPA) requirements. PACER revenue is used to pay for a variety of expenses related to maintaining electronic public access, including the PACER service, the PACER Service Center, and the development, operations, and maintenance of the Judiciary’s CM/ECF system. We recognize that some have questioned whether PACER fees should be spent on certain programs to enhance electronic public access to court information. While these matters are still in litigation [1], it is not disputed that the vast majority of PACER revenues are spent exclusively on PACER and CM/ECF expenses, and any serious disruption to PACER funding will affect those critical systems the most. [1] In National Veterans Legal Services Program et al, v. U.S., the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia upheld the Judiciary’s use of PACER revenue to pay for the vast majority of expenditures in the Judiciary’s Electronic Public Access program but ruled that web-based juror services, crime victims notification, and some courtroom technology activities are impermissible expenditures. Although the Judiciary has appealed the District Court’s ruling, as an interim measure the three programs are being funded with appropriated funds pending the outcome of the appeal in the Federal Circuit. Eliminating all PACER fees without providing a workable alternative funding mechanism would leave the Judiciary no way to pay for these critical, ongoing activities. Asa result, either public access programs would have to be scaled back due to insufficient resources, or the Judiciary would have to absorb the costs of its EPA program within the remainder of its budget, which would come largely at the expense of Judiciary staff, including court employees and probation and pretrial services officers. # S. 2064’s Proposed Changes to the PACER Fee Structure Would Be Unfair to Litigants S. 2064, which authorizes the Judiciary to impose higher filing fees to cover the cost of maintaining the PACER service, raises additional concerns. The Judicial Conference has long held the position that filing fees should not be increased to generate revenue for Judiciary operations. Funding PACER through filing fee increases would drastically shift the cost burden to litigants, who may not be proportionate users of PACER or may not even use PACER at all, many of whom may already struggle with court costs. The increase in filing fees that would be necessary to cover the cost of maintaining PACER would be substantial. A preliminary cost estimate shows that filing fees would have to be increased by approximately $750 per case to produce revenue equal to the Judiciary’s average annual collections under the current fee structure. This would be a dramatic increase for litigants. It could mean that the current district court civil filing fee of $350 would increase to $1,100. Filing fees in reorganization bankruptcy cases (i.c., cases filed under Chapter 11, which are already over $1,000), could increase to nearly $2,000. The Judicial Conference opposes this approach because such an added financial burden could deter litigants from pursuing their claims in federal court. Further, it is unclear whether the filing fee scheme proposed in S. 2064 is intended to _replace_ the statutory filing fees set by Congress and miscellaneous fees set by the Judicial Conference, or is intended _to authorize new or increased fees_ that will be used for PACER. This distinction has significant implications for the Judiciary. If _all_ filing fee revenue — statutory and miscellaneous — is now directed to be deposited into the Judiciary Information Technology Fund to maintain PACER, it would divert millions of dollars in annual filing fee revenue the Judiciary currently uses to support court operations generally, and necessitate the Judiciary to seek additional appropriations. # Structured Filing Fees Would Be Problematic The Judicial Conference also opposes provisions in S. 2064 requiring the Judiciary to structure filing fees commensurate with the burden imposed on the court by the party (with a lesser fee charged to individual filers) as such a variable fee structure would be administratively unworkable. Filing fees are paid at the outset of litigation, at which point it is unclear how much of a burden will be imposed on the court by a party. Irrespective of the cause of action, some cases are relatively straightforward or may be quickly resolved by the parties, requiring minimal filings and court involvement, while other seemingly simple cases turn out to be complicated and time-consuming to resolve. Trying to determine the burden on the court by the type of case filed, or some other standardized method, would be speculative, burdensome to court staff, and would likely prove to be inaccurate. ‘ # Policy and Technological Concerns The Judicial Conference has serious reservations regarding proposed requirements in H.R. 1164 and S. 2064 for a new consolidated case management system and other technical specifications. Both bills would require the Judiciary to consolidate its CM/ECF system from the current decentralized system where appellate, district, and bankruptcy courts receive and maintain case filings on individual databases, to a national system that receives/maintains ali files centrally. Both bills would also require all documents made available to the public to be text-searchable and machine-readable, which could prove infeasible because of the wide variety of document types litigants, particularly pro se litigants, may file in cases. Provisions in the bills would also give state courts the option to participate in the Federal Judiciary’s newly designed CM/ECE system, raising additional concerns about how such a consolidated system could accommodate potentially differing technical requirements from at least 50 other entities. # Resource Concerns Overhauling CM/ECF would likely take an enormous amount of time and money. It is very difficult to project how much it would cost to replace the Judiciary’s current system as directed by the bill, but one thing is certain: doing so within two years is not possible. Examples from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the State of California to overhaul case management systems are indicative of years of effort and hundreds of millions of dollars spent. Notably, neither bill provides a funding mechanism for most of the technical changes and upgrades discussed above. The filing fee structure established in S. 2064 makes those fees available only for the maintenance of the PACER service, to the exclusion of the development and maintenance of the new, consolidated case management system, capacity upgrades necessary for the system to withstand unlimited free use, and CM/ECF alterations to enable text searching and machine readability. As noted earlier in this letter, the absence of a dedicated funding source for these activities ensures that either the Judiciary will be unable to fund them in full or will be forced to divert necessary resources from its appropriations that were intended for the operations of the courts and probation and pretrial services offices. # Conclusion Based on the concerns discussed above, Judicial Conference opposes the proposed legislation and urges Congress not to proceed with consideration of H.R. 1164 or 8. 2064, the “Electronic Court Records Reform Act of 2019” or similar legislation. Sincerely, [signature] James C. Duff Secretary -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HMKP-116-JU00-20200915-SD012.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 340031 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Letter-to-Hon.-Jerrold-Nadler-re-Open-Courts-Act-of-2020-Final.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 228043 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sbg at sbgaal.com Fri Oct 9 20:55:23 2020 From: sbg at sbgaal.com (Shannon) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 15:55:23 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Bipartisan bill to make PACER free & 508 accessible: Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006a01d69e7e$833ae030$89b0a090$@sbgaal.com> Can you send the e-mails of the congressmen and women to contact; these didn't look like e-mails Sincerely, Shannon Brady Geihsler Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC 1212 Texas Avenue Lubbock, Texas 79401 Office: (806) 763-3999 Mobile: (806) 781-9296 Fax: (806) 749-3752 E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 10:33 AM To: FOI-L at lists.ufl.edu; Blind Law Mailing List ; Surveillance Coalition ; Privacy Coalition Cc: Sai ; Brooke Schreier Ganz ; Michael Morisy ; Mike Lissner ; hi at mek.fyi; bnarwold at motleyrice.com; moliver at motleyrice.com; bbrown at rcfp.org; ssamberg-champion at relmanlaw.com; Brewster Kahle Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Bipartisan bill to make PACER free & 508 accessible: Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 Could y'all please help push this to pass before the session ends? It'd be a shame if it died as a casualty of all the post-RBG / upcoming-election / COVID-19 craziness. Convincing Congress, organizing awareness / action, etc. is very much not in my skill set — so if it's yours, please speak up & take the lead. # Hashtag #OpenCourts (based on the bill's apt name) # Why you should act on the #OpenCourts Act I know, it's not as momentous as the headline news these days. We've had a crazy year. However: it's important, well written, necessary for transparency, bipartisan, judiciary-approved, uncontroversial, years overdue, & publicly unopposed* — and will have very extensive beneficial knock-on effects**. It should be a high priority for everyone working on transparency or civil rights in US federal government, especially given the great benefit:effort ratio. It should (AFAICT) be very easy to pass. It just needs attention from Congress. * Possible opponents: 1. DOJ (their budget subsidizes it) 2. Westlaw, LexisNexis, etc (undercuts their core business of selling access to public judicial records). It seems plausible to me that they're quietly lobbying against it. I've not actually heard of any such opposition; please LMK if you have. ** Feel free to talk to me off-list if you'd like details. This ties in closely to long term research I'm currently doing on millions of court records. Literally dozens of important issues this'll shed light on, all are either first release or totally paywalled. Research partners wanted. # Timeline HR8235 was approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 15 — the day after it was introduced & referred. There's been no action since. doesn't even show an event for it coming out of committee (only markup), though that's what they voted unanimously. Approved motion to move to House floor w/ recommendation to pass is at , at the very end. I have no idea why. (If you're savvier than me & can interpret this, please LMK off-list.) # Twitter & relevant congress members My tweet is @ if you'd like to copy or RT: > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler > @Jim_Jordan @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein > @SpeakerPelosi @SenateMajLdr Will you ensure the #OpenCourts Act (HR > 8235) passes this year? It's bipartisan & long overdue. > https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8235 I chose that @ mention list based on relevance & seniority. But again, this isn't my skill area — so for your convenience, here are all the relevant Congress members, AFAICT. (This should be more or less ordered by seniority, except within the 2 members lists.) Full House & Senate leadership @SpeakerPelosi @ChuckGrassley @LeaderHoyer @SenateMajLdr @GOPLeader @SenSchumer House Judiciary Committee leadership @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @RepMGS courts subcommittee leadership @RepHankJohnson @RepMarthaRoby @RepLouCorrea sponsors @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins * note duplicate: Johnson is both subcommittee chair & sponsor. courts subcommittee members @RepGregStanton @RepJeffries @RepTedLieu @RepTedDeutch @RepKarenBass @RepSwalwell @RepCohen @RepZoeLofgren @RepSteveChabot @RepEscobar @RepBenCline @GReschenthaler @RepAndyBiggs @RepMikeJohnson @RepSteveChabot @RepMattGaetz * note: mind that there are 2 "Rep. Johnson" on the subcommittee — Hank & Mike. Senate Judiciary Committee leadership @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein courts subcommittee leadership @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal courts subcommittee members @SenJohnKennedy @ChuckGrassley @SenJoniErnst @SenThomTillis @MikeCrapo @SenatorLeahy @SenAmyKlobuchar @SenWhitehouse @MazieHirono * note duplicate: Grassley is also senate president pro tem. Thanks! Sincerely, Sai President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 17:02 Sai wrote: > > I've read the text in full, and I think everyone should take action to support this. > > Anyone doing public interest related litigation, and literally all legal research related to US Federal cases, should be substantially benefitted. > > Full details below. In short, enacting the bill would mean that PACER > (where all US federal court records are kept), within 2-3 years, has > to 1. add full text search (totally absent now except in third party > products), 2. be 508 compliant (major plus for blind people & computer > based bulk data research), 3. be centralized (right now it's run > separately by each court), & 4. be 100% free to everyone; > > 5. in the meantime, have a minimum billing threshold of $25k/quarter > in the meantime; > > and > 6. limits filing fees to be proportional to dollar amounts at issue, with total exemption for pro se & poor (IFP) litigants — and double billing DOJ to help fund it. > > > * I have one reservation: it totally exempts prisoners from benefiting. That's in line with the Prisoner Litigation Reform Act, which imposed a lot of restrictions on prisoner litigants. I don't think this is fair or just… but it's the status quo, not a worsening, and probably open to legal challenge on that basis anyway. > > > Feel free to forward this etc however you see fit. I'd appreciate a CC & an email with link to any resulting posts, action, etc. > > > # Details > > > Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 > > > > All most relevant sections are excerpted & summarized below (by me). > > Markup: — starts at > 8:33:26 (near the very end); most of the video is totally unrelated > > > Cosponsors: > > Rep. Doug Collins [R-GA-9] > * (202) 225-1605 > * House Judiciary Committee Democrat #5 > ** Courts, IP, & Internet subcommittee #1 (chair) Rep. Hank Johnson, > Jr. [D-GA-4] > * (202) 225-9893 > * Judiciary Republican #2 > ** subcommittee #3 > > Judiciary committee: (202) 225-3951 > Courts subcommittee: (202) 225-5741 > > > # Bill text excerpt & summary > > SEC. 2. MODERNIZATION OF ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEMS. > (a) Consolidation. > … [AOUSC & GSA] shall establish, maintain, and operate … one system for all public court records. > … > (3 & 4) [ Must include info from, and comply with, 2002 > E-Government Act § 205 ] > > … > (c) Data Standards.-- > … > (2) Requirements. > … > (B) incorporate a widely accepted, nonproprietary, > full text searchable, platform-independent computer-readable format; … > (e) [ deadline: 2 years after enactment, plus one year it GSA asks > for an extension ] > > > (f) Funds for Establishment, Operation, and Maintenance of Modernized Court Records System.-- > (1) Short term access fees to fund establishment of modernized court records system.-- > (A) [ amend 28 USC 1913 note to say AOUSC can ONLY charge fees over $25,000 per quarter ] > (B) [ any exceeds can be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > (C) [ effective immediately on enactment ] > > (2) Filing fees to fund operation and maintenance of modernized court records system. > (A) [ re-amend the same USC note to delete the > above, together with the entire previous paragraphs a & b, and say > > (a) AOUSC can charge fees, per 28 USC §§ 1913, 1914, 1926, 1930, & 1932, only as necessary to maintain the new PACER: > (1)(A) based on amount of use > (1)(B) based on amount of damages claim & case complexity > (1)(C) counterclaim fee allowed > (1)(D) not at all for pro se & IFP litigants > (2) proof of claim/interest for FRBP 3002 & 3003 based on amount > involved > > (b) use limited to Judiciary Information Technology Fund, 28 USC > 612(c)(1)(A), for new PACER's costs > (c) fee schedule must be reviewed every 3 years > (d) exceeds can still be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > > (B) [ effective at the same time as the new PACER > above, ie 2 or 3 years after enactment ] > > > SEC. 3. PUBLIC ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEM REQUIREMENT. > > (a) [ everything on PACER is free, starting on the same 2/3 year > start date ] > > (b) [ AOUSC can add a 5 day max delay before public access, for > some categories of records, subject to N&C and automatic 3 year > expiration unless renewed per above, "based on a determination of a > specific and substantial interest in restricting the public right of > access to court records" ] > > (e) Funding for Public Access to Modernized Electronic Court Records System. > [ amend same USC note to add that funds for the 100% free PACER access will come from: > (1) billing DOJ equal to their PACER access fees, with inflation > (2) if that's not enough, filling fees, under the same > rules / limits as the post-launch version of fees above ] > > > SEC. 4. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION. > > Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to-- > (1) affect the filing fees or other filing procedures for prisoners; or > (2) abrogate, limit, or modify the requirements [ in 28 > USC 1915, the IFP statute ] > > > SEC. 5. DIGITAL ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. > > [ all of this must be Rehab Act § 508 accessible ] > > Sincerely, > Sai > President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) > > PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. > > Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sbg%40sbgaal.com From sai at fiatfiendum.org Fri Oct 9 22:04:14 2020 From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 23:04:14 +0100 Subject: [blindLaw] Bipartisan bill to make PACER free & 508 accessible: Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 In-Reply-To: <006a01d69e7e$833ae030$89b0a090$@sbgaal.com> References: <006a01d69e7e$833ae030$89b0a090$@sbgaal.com> Message-ID: Those were Twitter handles. Unfortunately, they don't give out their emails. However, if you're a constituent, you can email them via a form on their website. You can also call. Here's that info — sorted by senate/house, then party (majority first), then state/district. Remember to mention H.R. 8235, the Open Courts Act of 2020. Senate judiciary committee 202.224.5225 - Republican leadership SC Lindsey Graham (202) 224-5972 https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=contact-form - Democratic leadership CA Dianne Feinstein 202.224.5225 https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/e-mail-me courts subcommittee - Republicans IA Chuck Grassley 202-224-3744 https://www.grassley.senate.gov/constituents/questions-and-comments IA Joni Ernst (202) 224-3254 https://www.ernst.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-joni ID Mike Crapo (202) 224-6142 https://www.crapo.senate.gov/contact/email-me LA John Kennedy (202) 224-4623 https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/email-me NC Thom Tillis (202) 224-6342 https://www.tillis.senate.gov/email-me NE Ben Sasse 202-224-4224 https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-ben - Democrats CT Richard Blumenthal (202) 224-2823 https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/contact HI Mazie Hirono (202) 224-6361 https://www.hirono.senate.gov/share-your-opinion MN Amy Klobuchar 202-224-3244 https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-amy RI Sheldon Whitehouse (202) 224-2921 https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/contact/email-sheldon VT Patrick Leahy (202) 224-4242 https://www.leahy.senate.gov/contact House judiciary committee - Democratic leadership 202-225-3951 NY-10 Jerry Nadler 202-225-5635 https://nadler.house.gov/contact/ PA-05 Mary Gay Scanlon (202) 225-2011 https://scanlon.house.gov/contact/ - Republican leadership 202.225.6906 OH-04 Jim Jordan (202) 225-2676 https://jordan.house.gov/contact/ courts subcommittee - Democrats AZ-09 Greg Stanton (202) 225-9888 https://stanton.house.gov/contact/email-me CA-15 Eric Swalwell (202) 225-5065 https://swalwell.house.gov/contact CA-19 Zoe Lofgren (202) 225-3072 https://lofgren.house.gov/contact/email CA-33 Ted Lieu (202) 225-3976 https://lieu.house.gov/contact/email CA-37 Karen Bass (202) 225-7084 https://bass.house.gov/contact CA-46 J. Luis Correa (202) 225-2965 https://correa.house.gov/contact FL-22 Theodore E. Deutch 202-225-3001 https://teddeutch.house.gov/forms/writeyourrep/ GA-04 Henry C. "Hank" Johnson (202) 226-0691 https://hankjohnson.house.gov/contact/email NY-08 Hakeem Jeffries (202) 225-5936 https://jeffries.house.gov/contact/email-me/ TN-09 Steve Cohen (202) 225-3265 https://cohen.house.gov/contact/email - Republicans AL-02 Martha Roby (202) 225-2901 https://roby.house.gov/contact AZ-05 Andy Biggs 202-225-2635 https://biggs.house.gov/contact FL-01 Matt Gaetz https://gaetz.house.gov/contact (phone # not listed) GA-09 Doug Collins (202) 225 9893 https://dougcollins.house.gov/contact-doug LA-04 Mike Johnson 202-225-2777 https://mikejohnson.house.gov/contact OH-01 Steve Chabot (202) 225-2216 https://chabot.house.gov/contact/ PA-14 Guy Reschenthaler (202) 225-2065 https://reschenthaler.house.gov/contact/email-me VA-06 Ben Cline (202) 225-5431 https://cline.house.gov/contact/email-me WI-07 Tom Tiffany (202) 225-3365 https://tiffany.house.gov/contact/email Sincerely, Sai President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:56 PM Shannon via BlindLaw wrote: > > Can you send the e-mails of the congressmen and women to contact; these didn't look like e-mails > > Sincerely, > > Shannon Brady Geihsler > > Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC > 1212 Texas Avenue > Lubbock, Texas 79401 > Office: (806) 763-3999 > Mobile: (806) 781-9296 > Fax: (806) 749-3752 > E-Mail: sbg at sbgaal.com > This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Sai via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2020 10:33 AM > To: FOI-L at lists.ufl.edu; Blind Law Mailing List ; Surveillance Coalition ; Privacy Coalition > Cc: Sai ; Brooke Schreier Ganz ; Michael Morisy ; Mike Lissner ; hi at mek.fyi; bnarwold at motleyrice.com; moliver at motleyrice.com; bbrown at rcfp.org; ssamberg-champion at relmanlaw.com; Brewster Kahle > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Bipartisan bill to make PACER free & 508 accessible: Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 > > Could y'all please help push this to pass before the session ends? > > It'd be a shame if it died as a casualty of all the post-RBG / upcoming-election / COVID-19 craziness. > > Convincing Congress, organizing awareness / action, etc. is very much not in my skill set — so if it's yours, please speak up & take the lead. > > > # Hashtag > > #OpenCourts (based on the bill's apt name) > > > # Why you should act on the #OpenCourts Act > > I know, it's not as momentous as the headline news these days. We've had a crazy year. > > However: it's important, well written, necessary for transparency, bipartisan, judiciary-approved, uncontroversial, years overdue, & publicly unopposed* — and will have very extensive beneficial knock-on effects**. > > It should be a high priority for everyone working on transparency or civil rights in US federal government, especially given the great benefit:effort ratio. > > It should (AFAICT) be very easy to pass. It just needs attention from Congress. > > > * Possible opponents: > 1. DOJ (their budget subsidizes it) > 2. Westlaw, LexisNexis, etc (undercuts their core business of selling access to public judicial records). > > It seems plausible to me that they're quietly lobbying against it. > I've not actually heard of any such opposition; please LMK if you have. > > ** Feel free to talk to me off-list if you'd like details. This ties in closely to long term research I'm currently doing on millions of court records. Literally dozens of important issues this'll shed light on, all are either first release or totally paywalled. Research partners wanted. > > > # Timeline > > HR8235 was approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 15 — the day after it was introduced & referred. > > There's been no action since. > > doesn't even show an event for it coming out of committee (only markup), though that's what they voted unanimously. Approved motion to move to House floor w/ recommendation to pass is at , at the very end. > > I have no idea why. (If you're savvier than me & can interpret this, please LMK off-list.) > > > # Twitter & relevant congress members > > My tweet is @ > if you'd like to copy or RT: > > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler > > @Jim_Jordan @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein > > @SpeakerPelosi @SenateMajLdr Will you ensure the #OpenCourts Act (HR > > 8235) passes this year? It's bipartisan & long overdue. > > https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8235 > > > I chose that @ mention list based on relevance & seniority. But again, this isn't my skill area — so for your convenience, here are all the relevant Congress members, AFAICT. (This should be more or less ordered by seniority, except within the 2 members lists.) > > > Full House & Senate leadership > @SpeakerPelosi @ChuckGrassley @LeaderHoyer @SenateMajLdr @GOPLeader @SenSchumer > > > House Judiciary Committee > leadership > @HouseJudiciary @RepJerryNadler @Jim_Jordan @RepMGS > > courts subcommittee leadership > @RepHankJohnson @RepMarthaRoby @RepLouCorrea > > sponsors > @RepHankJohnson @RepDougCollins > * note duplicate: Johnson is both subcommittee chair & sponsor. > > courts subcommittee members > @RepGregStanton @RepJeffries @RepTedLieu @RepTedDeutch @RepKarenBass @RepSwalwell @RepCohen @RepZoeLofgren @RepSteveChabot @RepEscobar @RepBenCline @GReschenthaler @RepAndyBiggs @RepMikeJohnson @RepSteveChabot @RepMattGaetz > * note: mind that there are 2 "Rep. Johnson" on the subcommittee — Hank & Mike. > > > Senate Judiciary Committee > leadership > @LindseyGrahamSC @SenFeinstein > > courts subcommittee leadership > @SenSasse @SenBlumenthal > > courts subcommittee members > @SenJohnKennedy @ChuckGrassley @SenJoniErnst @SenThomTillis @MikeCrapo @SenatorLeahy @SenAmyKlobuchar @SenWhitehouse @MazieHirono > * note duplicate: Grassley is also senate president pro tem. > > > Thanks! > > Sincerely, > Sai > President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3) > > PS Non-gendered pronouns please. I'm a US citizen. > > Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision and autocorrect errors. > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 17:02 Sai wrote: > > > > I've read the text in full, and I think everyone should take action to support this. > > > > Anyone doing public interest related litigation, and literally all legal research related to US Federal cases, should be substantially benefitted. > > > > Full details below. In short, enacting the bill would mean that PACER > > (where all US federal court records are kept), within 2-3 years, has > > to 1. add full text search (totally absent now except in third party > > products), 2. be 508 compliant (major plus for blind people & computer > > based bulk data research), 3. be centralized (right now it's run > > separately by each court), & 4. be 100% free to everyone; > > > > 5. in the meantime, have a minimum billing threshold of $25k/quarter > > in the meantime; > > > > and > > 6. limits filing fees to be proportional to dollar amounts at issue, with total exemption for pro se & poor (IFP) litigants — and double billing DOJ to help fund it. > > > > > > * I have one reservation: it totally exempts prisoners from benefiting. That's in line with the Prisoner Litigation Reform Act, which imposed a lot of restrictions on prisoner litigants. I don't think this is fair or just… but it's the status quo, not a worsening, and probably open to legal challenge on that basis anyway. > > > > > > Feel free to forward this etc however you see fit. I'd appreciate a CC & an email with link to any resulting posts, action, etc. > > > > > > # Details > > > > > > Open Courts Act of 2020, HR 8235 > > > > > > > > All most relevant sections are excerpted & summarized below (by me). > > > > Markup: — starts at > > 8:33:26 (near the very end); most of the video is totally unrelated > > > > > > Cosponsors: > > > > Rep. Doug Collins [R-GA-9] > > * (202) 225-1605 > > * House Judiciary Committee Democrat #5 > > ** Courts, IP, & Internet subcommittee #1 (chair) Rep. Hank Johnson, > > Jr. [D-GA-4] > > * (202) 225-9893 > > * Judiciary Republican #2 > > ** subcommittee #3 > > > > Judiciary committee: (202) 225-3951 > > Courts subcommittee: (202) 225-5741 > > > > > > # Bill text excerpt & summary > > > > SEC. 2. MODERNIZATION OF ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEMS. > > (a) Consolidation. > > … [AOUSC & GSA] shall establish, maintain, and operate … one system for all public court records. > > … > > (3 & 4) [ Must include info from, and comply with, 2002 > > E-Government Act § 205 ] > > > > … > > (c) Data Standards.-- > > … > > (2) Requirements. > > … > > (B) incorporate a widely accepted, nonproprietary, > > full text searchable, platform-independent computer-readable format; … > > (e) [ deadline: 2 years after enactment, plus one year it GSA asks > > for an extension ] > > > > > > (f) Funds for Establishment, Operation, and Maintenance of Modernized Court Records System.-- > > (1) Short term access fees to fund establishment of modernized court records system.-- > > (A) [ amend 28 USC 1913 note to say AOUSC can ONLY charge fees over $25,000 per quarter ] > > (B) [ any exceeds can be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > > (C) [ effective immediately on enactment ] > > > > (2) Filing fees to fund operation and maintenance of modernized court records system. > > (A) [ re-amend the same USC note to delete the > > above, together with the entire previous paragraphs a & b, and say > > > > (a) AOUSC can charge fees, per 28 USC §§ 1913, 1914, 1926, 1930, & 1932, only as necessary to maintain the new PACER: > > (1)(A) based on amount of use > > (1)(B) based on amount of damages claim & case complexity > > (1)(C) counterclaim fee allowed > > (1)(D) not at all for pro se & IFP litigants > > (2) proof of claim/interest for FRBP 3002 & 3003 based on amount > > involved > > > > (b) use limited to Judiciary Information Technology Fund, 28 USC > > 612(c)(1)(A), for new PACER's costs > > (c) fee schedule must be reviewed every 3 years > > (d) exceeds can still be used per 28 USC 612(a) ] > > > > (B) [ effective at the same time as the new PACER > > above, ie 2 or 3 years after enactment ] > > > > > > SEC. 3. PUBLIC ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC COURT RECORDS SYSTEM REQUIREMENT. > > > > (a) [ everything on PACER is free, starting on the same 2/3 year > > start date ] > > > > (b) [ AOUSC can add a 5 day max delay before public access, for > > some categories of records, subject to N&C and automatic 3 year > > expiration unless renewed per above, "based on a determination of a > > specific and substantial interest in restricting the public right of > > access to court records" ] > > > > (e) Funding for Public Access to Modernized Electronic Court Records System. > > [ amend same USC note to add that funds for the 100% free PACER access will come from: > > (1) billing DOJ equal to their PACER access fees, with inflation > > (2) if that's not enough, filling fees, under the same > > rules / limits as the post-launch version of fees above ] > > > > > > SEC. 4. 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LaBarre) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:47:10 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: CREEC Announces Executive Director Search In-Reply-To: <8825eb82-8274-4a34-a96d-0d842de0252e@salsalabs.org> References: <8825eb82-8274-4a34-a96d-0d842de0252e@salsalabs.org> Message-ID: <000201d6a273$9262de20$b7289a60$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: Amy Robertson and Tim Fox, CREEC Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 3:31 PM To: Scott LaBarre Subject: CREEC Announces Executive Director Search Dear CREEC Friends, We are very excited to tell you that CREEC will soon be hiring our replacement! CREEC has started the search for a new executive director, who will take over the position that we have co-held since we founded CREEC in 2013. Here is a link to the job posting. We started CREEC to continue litigating impact civil rights cases, and to expand the educational work we did not have the bandwidth for as a private law firm. 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LaBarre) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:23:32 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Seeking DRA's Next Leader In-Reply-To: <6d45513ad78f709994b4c68fb.8aa2fd9085.20201014223645.a837c30347.338957db@mail171.suw14.mcdlv.net> References: <6d45513ad78f709994b4c68fb.8aa2fd9085.20201014223645.a837c30347.338957db@mail171.suw14.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <002f01d6a281$0ce5dc80$26b19580$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: Disability Rights Advocates Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:37 PM To: slabarre at labarrelaw.com Subject: Seeking DRA's Next Leader Seeking DRA's Next Leader View this email in your browser Donate Now Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Donate Now Dear DRA Supporters, Friends, Clients, and Allies, The DRA Board is excited to announce the launch of our search for a new President and CEO of DRA. As you know, DRA was founded in 1993 by visionary attorneys and disability advocates Larry Paradis and Sid Wolinsky. Larry and Sid led DRA, with great success, until Larry’s passing in 2016 and Sid’s retirement in 2018. Thanks to a dedicated team of staff and the wonderful stewardship of our Interim Executive Director, Kate Hamilton, DRA continues to increase its reach and impact as we transition from a founder-led organization into our next chapter. We now have launched a search for a visionary leader to take the helm and help shape the course of that next chapter. This is a remarkable opportunity for the right candidate. DRA’s new leader will inherit a financially stable, mission-driven organization. DRA manifests that mission through high impact civil rights litigation that compels public and private institutions to make material changes to end discriminatory systems and practices and increase social and economic equality for people with disabilities. We are looking for candidates who are committed to disability rights and prepared to use exceptional leadership, management, and relationship-building skills to lead and grow our national cross-disability non-profit legal center. A candidate who can expand our network of partner organizations in the disability community, and nurture our strong internal culture as it continues to live its disability rights values and actively work to improve its diversity, equity and inclusion practices. Please help spread the word to your network of disability leaders. The Position Announcement can be found here. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled but we are asking that serious candidates submit applications, on or before, October 30, 2020. Applications should contain a resume and thoughtful cover letter, outlining how your skills and experience meet the qualifications of the position. Email Christine Griffin, cgriffin at benderconsult.com with DRA President/CEO Search in the subject line. Thank you so much, Cristina Rubke and Allison May DRA Board/Search Committee Give Now Disability Rights Advocates 2001 Center Street, Fourth Floor Berkeley, CA 94704 Add us to your address book You are receiving this email because you opted in to receive emails from DRA. Want to change how you receive these emails? You can unsubscribe from this list Or, update subscription preferences 655 Third Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY 10017 Copyright © 2020 Disability Rights Advocates, All rights reserved. From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Oct 15 15:53:02 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 09:53:02 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Laura Wolk Testifying Before Senate Judiciary Message-ID: <013701d6a30b$43c72260$cb556720$@labarrelaw.com> Hey everybody!! One of our very own, Laura Wolk, will be testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee in about 25 or 30 minutes or about 12:15 PM Eastern. It is on CSPAN. She is testifying in the Judge Amy Barrett hearings. I assume Laura knows Judge Barret from her days at Notre Dame etc. Good luck Laura!! I know you'll do great!! Scott From rothmanjd at gmail.com Fri Oct 16 05:06:21 2020 From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 01:06:21 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: [NFB-Maryland] Last Call: 2020 NFBMD Virtual Night at the Theater- October 16, 2020 In-Reply-To: <06fc01d6a360$de220e10$9a662a30$@nfbmd.org> References: <06fc01d6a360$de220e10$9a662a30$@nfbmd.org> Message-ID: <086c01d6a37a$1732c870$45985950$@gmail.com> Ronza Othman, President National Federation of the Blind of Maryland 443-426-4110 Pronouns: she, her, hers From: NFB-Maryland [mailto:nfb-maryland-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of president--- via NFB-Maryland Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:06 PM To: nfb-maryland at nfbnet.org Subject: [NFB-Maryland] Last Call: 2020 NFBMD Virtual Night at the Theater- October 16, 2020 Please join the National Federation of the Blind of Maryland for our 2020 Virtual Night at the Theater on October 16, 2020 at 8PM Eastern. This is a Meet the Blind Month activity, so please share this event with family, friends, and members of your communities. We will feature theatrical performances by blind people, including a rebroadcast of a Mock Trial and a Louisiana Center for the Blind play. Both incorporate our NFB philosophy in interesting and even humerous ways. Tickets cost $25. Everyone who purchases a ticket will be entered into a drawing to receive a gift certificate for steamed crabs. We will announce the winner at the Virtual Night at the Theater. To purchase a ticket, use the PayPal link located at http://nfbmd.org/theater or send a check to: National Federation of the Blind of Maryland Virtual Night at the Theater 1800 Johnson Street, Suite N1 Baltimore, MD 21230>p> If you plan to mail a check, please let the Committee Co-Chairpersons or I know so we make sure we get you the access information. This is needed because of the delay in postal service mail delivery. For questions, contact Committee Chairpersons Ellen Ringlein at ERinglein at nfb.org or Jen White at JWhite at nfb.org . Ronza Othman, President National Federation of the Blind of Maryland 443-426-4110 Pronouns: she, her, hers The National Federation of the Blind of Maryland knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ NFB-Maryland mailing list NFB-Maryland at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-maryland_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-Maryland: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-maryland_nfbnet.org/rothmanjd%40gmail.com From kaur.nimit at gmail.com Sun Oct 18 18:57:15 2020 From: kaur.nimit at gmail.com (Nimit Kaur) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:57:15 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Prospective law student looking for advice with LSAT Accessibility Message-ID: <95C27A0E-597E-40B5-AC06-1634AAA79747@gmail.com> Dear all, I hope you are doing well. I am completely blind and a braille reader and I am registered to take the LSAT in January. Due to the current pandemic, the January test will be administered online with remote proctoring. I am looking to hear any type of experience from anyone who took the test recently as a braille reader. Did you receive the test in braille? Did you read the test in the HTML version and then transcribe answers to a scribe? Has anyone taken the Online Flex LSAT with a screen reader Jaws and a braille display? Looking forward to any advice in terms of accessibility by daily users. Thank you, Nimit Sent from my iPad From davant1958 at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 17:54:24 2020 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:54:24 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Why Hire Lawyers with Disabilities: Video by ABA & LSAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0a5f01d6a70a$0c47ec40$24d7c4c0$@gmail.com> FYI. Denise R. Avant, Esq. President, National Federation of the Blind of Illinois 773-991-8050 Live the life you want. For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org From: The Disability Discussion Docket (3D) <3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG> On Behalf Of Allbright, Amy Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:57 AM To: 3D at MAIL.AMERICANBAR.ORG Subject: Why Hire Lawyers with Disabilities: Video by ABA & LSAC Colleagues, Hope you and your families are doing well. In celebration of the 30th anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act and the 75th observance of National Disability Employment Awareness Month (October), I am sharing the link to the video, Why Hire Lawyers with Disabilities? , created by the ABA Commission on Disability Rights and the Law School Admission Council (LSAC). Please enjoy and share with your networks. Amy L. 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From kaybaycar at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 20:41:39 2020 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 16:41:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus Message-ID: Good afternoon everyone, I'm working on a research assignment for school in which we are required to shepardize a statute using Lexis Plus. I am using Jaws 2020 with Google Crome, and I cannot find a shepardize link or button anywhere on that page. I've gone over and over it; I've asked for help at our library; and I've reached out to Lexis about it. The sighted librarians we have cannot figure out why Jaws doesn't identify anything that allows me to shepardize. So, I'm coming to you hoping that someone here has done this with Jaws successfully and can give me some pointers. Alternatively, if the feature is not accessible, I would love to know that as well so that I can bother Lexis about it and do something about my research assignment. I do not have a reader, and I don't have access to AIRA or sighted help in pretty much any form except through my university if I schedule a meeting. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Julie A. McGinnity MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, JD Candidate 2023 From jfranks at nfbtx.org Wed Oct 21 13:42:21 2020 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:42:21 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Legal files Message-ID: Hello all, I recently received a temporary position with my state's authorized P&A agency. They utilize Legal files for their system to manage client details. I was wondering if anyone has had better experiences with the Legal files website or the Computer App? Also, if there are any jaws related documents that help with the navigation of Legal Files. Any help would be most appreciated. Warm regards, Jonathan Franks MSW Advocate Housing, Disaster and Transportation Team Disability Rights Texas -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 13:47:06 2020 From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 08:47:06 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Legal files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4864EBE9-A86F-42AA-9523-20880BCCD356@gmail.com> I recommend that you contact Brian east with disability rights texes if you have not already contacted him. He should be able to put you in touch with any other blind folks who have worked there and used this system. I have worked for a protection iI have worked for a protection and advocacy agency in a different state, but we did not use the legal files platform. Thank you. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Oct 21, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Franks via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello all, > I recently received a temporary position with my state's authorized > P&A agency. They utilize Legal files for their system to manage client > details. I was wondering if anyone has had better experiences with the > Legal files website or the Computer App? Also, if there are any jaws > related documents that help with the navigation of Legal Files. > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > Warm regards, > > Jonathan Franks MSW > Advocate > Housing, Disaster and Transportation Team > Disability Rights Texas > > -- > The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create > obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life > you want; blindness is not what holds you back. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com From jfranks at nfbtx.org Wed Oct 21 14:00:54 2020 From: jfranks at nfbtx.org (Jonathan Franks) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 09:00:54 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Legal files In-Reply-To: <4864EBE9-A86F-42AA-9523-20880BCCD356@gmail.com> References: <4864EBE9-A86F-42AA-9523-20880BCCD356@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you, I actually work with Brian. The other blind person that works in the office has a love hate relationship with Legal files lol. He is also on vacation at the moment( my blind coworker). Thanks for the advice, Jonathan Franks MSW Advocate, Housing, Transportation and Disaster Team Disability Rights Texas On 10/21/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I recommend that you contact Brian east with disability rights texes if you > have not already contacted him. He should be able to put you in touch with > any other blind folks who have worked there and used this system. I have > worked for a protection iI have worked for a protection and advocacy agency > in a different state, but we did not use the legal files platform. Thank > you. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > >> On Oct 21, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Franks via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I recently received a temporary position with my state's authorized >> P&A agency. They utilize Legal files for their system to manage client >> details. I was wondering if anyone has had better experiences with the >> Legal files website or the Computer App? Also, if there are any jaws >> related documents that help with the navigation of Legal Files. >> >> Any help would be most appreciated. >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Jonathan Franks MSW >> Advocate >> Housing, Disaster and Transportation Team >> Disability Rights Texas >> >> -- >> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the >> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the >> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create >> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life >> you want; blindness is not what holds you back. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jfranks%40nfbtx.org > -- The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. From PChang at nfb.org Wed Oct 21 17:14:46 2020 From: PChang at nfb.org (Chang, Patti) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:14:46 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Looking for a lawyer who has transitioned from magnification to using a screen reader preferably JAWS Message-ID: Dear all, We are working with Vispero as you may know. We are looking for a lawyer who has made the shift from zoom text or other magnification to JAWS preferably in the past five years. If you fit the bill, please email me offline at pchang at nfb.org. Thanks. Patti Chang Esq. Director of Outreach 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230 (410) 659-9314, extension 2422 | pchang at nfb.org Cell: 773-307-6440 [National Federation of the Blind] [Facebook] [Twitter] [Youtube] The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. 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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Wed Oct 21 18:19:59 2020 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 14:19:59 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04c701d6a7d6$d45b9520$7d12bf60$@comcast.net> Dear ms julie: If you could, Can you please write me off list, I think I can walk you through what to do, As I had the same problem whenst I tried to do shepards on statutes; You can find my contact info below; Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus Good afternoon everyone, I'm working on a research assignment for school in which we are required to shepardize a statute using Lexis Plus. I am using Jaws 2020 with Google Crome, and I cannot find a shepardize link or button anywhere on that page. I've gone over and over it; I've asked for help at our library; and I've reached out to Lexis about it. The sighted librarians we have cannot figure out why Jaws doesn't identify anything that allows me to shepardize. So, I'm coming to you hoping that someone here has done this with Jaws successfully and can give me some pointers. Alternatively, if the feature is not accessible, I would love to know that as well so that I can bother Lexis about it and do something about my research assignment. I do not have a reader, and I don't have access to AIRA or sighted help in pretty much any form except through my university if I schedule a meeting. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Julie A. McGinnity MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, JD Candidate 2023 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40co mcast.net From wmiller at bwspllc.com Thu Oct 22 12:43:35 2020 From: wmiller at bwspllc.com (William Miller) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:43:35 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus Message-ID: <20e73d5e45834e6cafa697bc262ac30b@bwspllc.com> Julie: If your assignment is to research treatment of a statute by the courts, I think the annotated statutes and not Shepard's are the best resource. If it is specifically to Shepardize a statute and you are having a problem with the Lexis interface then I recommend that you contact Lexis and request assistance. As a last resort and if you are facing a deadline you may want to request sighted assistance. Good luck in law school! Best wishes, William T. Miller Attorney Brinkley Walser Stoner, PLLC 10 LSB PLAZA P.O. Box 1657 Lexington, North Carolina  27293-1657 Telephone:  (336) 249-2101 Fax:  (336)  249-4572 Email: wmiller at bwspllc.com Website:  www.brinkleywalserstoner.com Greensboro Location:  First Citizens Bank Building 620 Green Valley Road, Suite 306 Greensboro, North Carolina  27408 Telephone:  (336) 235-2941 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Julie McGinnity Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus Good afternoon everyone, I'm working on a research assignment for school in which we are required to shepardize a statute using Lexis Plus. I am using Jaws 2020 with Google Crome, and I cannot find a shepardize link or button anywhere on that page. I've gone over and over it; I've asked for help at our library; and I've reached out to Lexis about it. The sighted librarians we have cannot figure out why Jaws doesn't identify anything that allows me to shepardize. So, I'm coming to you hoping that someone here has done this with Jaws successfully and can give me some pointers. Alternatively, if the feature is not accessible, I would love to know that as well so that I can bother Lexis about it and do something about my research assignment. I do not have a reader, and I don't have access to AIRA or sighted help in pretty much any form except through my university if I schedule a meeting. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Julie A. McGinnity MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, JD Candidate 2023 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://link.edgepilot.com/s/cb0d6429/RHN6f52O9UCn1f9EOIdKFw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/5af170ff/hkaaDd9PP0aQ_FsrxNEOMw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%2540co mcast.net ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org https://link.edgepilot.com/s/cb0d6429/RHN6f52O9UCn1f9EOIdKFw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org ------------------------------ End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 197, Issue 14 ***************************************** From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Oct 22 14:26:46 2020 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:26:46 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201d6a87f$5fde5e90$1f9b1bb0$@labarrelaw.com> fyi From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:33 AM To: Undisclosed recipients: Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Good morning, Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice. Please post on your internal sites and distribute to any interested audience, including law student organizations and other affinity groups. The Department of Justice places a high value on diversity of experiences and perspectives and encourages applications from all qualified individuals from all ethnic and racial backgrounds, veterans , LGBT individuals, and persons with disabilities . 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If you would like to update your contact information, please submit the following information: SCHOOL OR ORGANIZATION: NAME: TITLE: PHONE: EMAIL: WEBSITE: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kelbycarlson at gmail.com Thu Oct 22 15:26:40 2020 From: kelbycarlson at gmail.com (K. Scott Carlson) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:26:40 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus In-Reply-To: <20e73d5e45834e6cafa697bc262ac30b@bwspllc.com> References: <20e73d5e45834e6cafa697bc262ac30b@bwspllc.com> Message-ID: Is Lexis Plus the same as Lexis Advance? I've never had an issue finding a Sheperdizing link with Lexis Advance; it's usually just below the name of the document. I Sheperdize a lot more cases than statutes, though. > On Oct 22, 2020, at 9:17 AM, William Miller via BlindLaw wrote: > > Julie: > > If your assignment is to research treatment of a statute by the courts, I think the annotated statutes and not Shepard's are the best resource. If it is specifically to Shepardize a statute and you are having a problem with the Lexis interface then I recommend that you contact Lexis and request assistance. As a last resort and if you are facing a deadline you may want to request sighted assistance. > > Good luck in law school! > > Best wishes, > > > William T. Miller > Attorney > Brinkley Walser Stoner, PLLC > 10 LSB PLAZA > P.O. Box 1657 > Lexington, North Carolina 27293-1657 > Telephone: (336) 249-2101 > Fax: (336) 249-4572 > Email: wmiller at bwspllc.com > Website: www.brinkleywalserstoner.com > > Greensboro Location: First Citizens Bank Building > 620 Green Valley Road, Suite 306 > Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 > Telephone: (336) 235-2941 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity > via BlindLaw > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Julie McGinnity > Subject: [blindLaw] Shepardizing Feature on Lexis Plus > > Good afternoon everyone, > > I'm working on a research assignment for school in which we are required to > shepardize a statute using Lexis Plus. I am using Jaws > 2020 with Google Crome, and I cannot find a shepardize link or button > anywhere on that page. I've gone over and over it; I've asked for help at > our library; and I've reached out to Lexis about it. The sighted librarians > we have cannot figure out why Jaws doesn't identify anything that allows me > to shepardize. So, I'm coming to you hoping that someone here has done this > with Jaws successfully and can give me some pointers. Alternatively, if the > feature is not accessible, I would love to know that as well so that I can > bother Lexis about it and do something about my research assignment. I do > not have a reader, and I don't have access to AIRA or sighted help in pretty > much any form except through my university if I schedule a meeting. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > -- > Julie A. McGinnity > MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, > JD Candidate 2023 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/cb0d6429/RHN6f52O9UCn1f9EOIdKFw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/5af170ff/hkaaDd9PP0aQ_FsrxNEOMw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%2540co > mcast.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/cb0d6429/RHN6f52O9UCn1f9EOIdKFw?u=http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BlindLaw Digest, Vol 197, Issue 14 > ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kelbycarlson%40gmail.com From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Sun Oct 25 23:55:52 2020 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 19:55:52 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft Message-ID: <16E68D3E-FADC-4FFF-9C81-A8D566830F91@icloud.com> Hi all, I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have any of you had any luck using this software? Thanks, Lauren Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? Thanks, Lauren From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 00:16:23 2020 From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 19:16:23 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <16E68D3E-FADC-4FFF-9C81-A8D566830F91@icloud.com> References: <16E68D3E-FADC-4FFF-9C81-A8D566830F91@icloud.com> Message-ID: Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi all, > I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have any of you had any luck using this software? > Thanks, > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? > Thanks, > Lauren > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com From seifs at umich.edu Mon Oct 26 00:31:54 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:31:54 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: References: <16E68D3E-FADC-4FFF-9C81-A8D566830F91@icloud.com> Message-ID: Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I tried >> to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock exam, my >> computer would not speak to me when I reentered the exemplify window. Are >> used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have any of you had any luck >> using this software? >> Thanks, >> Lauren >> >> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >> Thanks, >> Lauren >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.edu > -- Seif Saqallah (Pronouns: he/him/his.) 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From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Mon Oct 26 00:41:30 2020 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:41:30 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: > > Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software > accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. > > > >> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I tried >>> to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock exam, my >>> computer would not speak to me when I reentered the exemplify window. Are >>> used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have any of you had any luck >>> using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.edu >> > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies > J.D/M.A Candidate | 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; > Law, Justice, and Social Change > B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic > > Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic > > University of Michigan Law School > www.law.umich.edu/ITC > www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient and have > received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender > immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all > copies of the transmittal, including attachments. Receipt of this > message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Mon Oct 26 01:01:27 2020 From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:01:27 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> References: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> Message-ID: <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> Oh no lady!! You don't want to do that; I am in my third year in law school, They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; If you do, Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are done. Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were their proposal. At least my dss waived on through; Why wouldn't they, It let's them off the hook; This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of resistance. Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Lauren Bishop Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: > > Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software > accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. > > > >> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have >>> any of you had any luck using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>> gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.e >> du >> > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic > > Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic > > University of Michigan Law School > www.law.umich.edu/ITC > www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > disclosure by law. 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Receipt of this > message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%4 > 0icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Mon Oct 26 01:18:55 2020 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:18:55 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> References: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, I discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — does work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure mode. I don't know if anything changed since then. Michal -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft Oh no lady!! You don't want to do that; I am in my third year in law school, They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; If you do, Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are done. Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were their proposal. At least my dss waived on through; Why wouldn't they, It let's them off the hook; This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of resistance. Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Lauren Bishop Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: > > Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software > accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. > > > >> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >> >> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >> >>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have >>> any of you had any luck using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> >>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>> gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.e >> du >> > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Pronouns: he/him/his.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate > | 2021 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic > > Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic > > University of Michigan Law School > www.law.umich.edu/ITC > www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx > > The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > disclosure by law. 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Receipt of this > message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%4 > 0icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com From seifs at umich.edu Mon Oct 26 01:21:04 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:21:04 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> References: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> Message-ID: That is an alternative. However, I receive the exam in an accessible format from an individual designated by the law school for testing accommodations, and email it back to that individual, whose office reformats and submits it anonymously. This is what I do in Law school; for undergrad, I had a disability form (proof of accommodations from that office) and often dealt with the professors directly without disability-office intervention. Sincerely, Seif On 10/25/20, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw wrote: > Oh no lady!! > You don't want to do that; > > I am in my third year in law school, > They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; > > If you do, > Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, > Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, > Then, > Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are > done. > Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous > requirement; > Then, > Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were > their proposal. > At least my dss waived on through; > Why wouldn't they, > It let's them off the hook; > > This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of > resistance. > > > Please advise as you like. > > Mike M. > > Mike mcglashon > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via > BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Lauren Bishop > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with > about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their > programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get > some alternative arrangements in the works. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software >> accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >> >> >> >>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have >>>> any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>>> gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.e >>> du >>> >> >> >> -- >> Seif Saqallah >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >> University of Michigan >> Juris Doctor/ >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >> | 2021 >> >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >> >> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >> >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >> >> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >> >> University of Michigan Law School >> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >> >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is >> confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >> disclosure by law. 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From seifs at umich.edu Mon Oct 26 01:22:00 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 21:22:00 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> References: <5066280B-A724-493C-8AB1-57C37AD5DC03@icloud.com> <009301d6ab33$8b50abd0$a1f20370$@comcast.net> <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> Message-ID: Now, I think, they require it in secure mode, especially if using one's own computer. On 10/25/20, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, I > discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — does > work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure mode. I > don't know if anything changed since then. > > Michal > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via > BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Oh no lady!! > You don't want to do that; > > I am in my third year in law school, > They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; > > If you do, > Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to > receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you > to email it back to them when you are done. > Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous > requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities > department as if it were their proposal. > At least my dss waived on through; > Why wouldn't they, > It let's them off the hook; > > This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of > resistance. > > > Please advise as you like. > > Mike M. > > Mike mcglashon > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via > BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Lauren Bishop > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with > about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their > programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get > some alternative arrangements in the works. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software >> accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >> >> >> >>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have >>>> any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>>> gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.e >>> du >>> >> >> >> -- >> Seif Saqallah >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >> University of Michigan >> Juris Doctor/ >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >> | 2021 >> >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >> >> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >> >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >> >> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >> >> University of Michigan Law School >> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >> >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is >> confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >> disclosure by law. 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From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 01:28:14 2020 From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:28:14 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> References: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> Message-ID: Help me understand how taking an exam using exam soft or one of its derivatives in unsecure mode is any different from simply requesting the exam in word format and taking it that way. I wouldn’t want to have to navigate a platform like exam soft when having never used it before. Doing so puts the examinee at a disadvantage. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, I discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — does work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure mode. I don't know if anything changed since then. > > Michal > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Oh no lady!! > You don't want to do that; > > I am in my third year in law school, > They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; > > If you do, > Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are done. > Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were their proposal. > At least my dss waived on through; > Why wouldn't they, > It let's them off the hook; > > This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of resistance. > > > Please advise as you like. > > Mike M. > > Mike mcglashon > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Lauren Bishop > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different software >> accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >> >> >> >>>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. Have >>>> any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>>> gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.e >>> du >>> >> >> >> -- >> Seif Saqallah >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >> University of Michigan >> Juris Doctor/ >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >> | 2021 >> >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >> >> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >> >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >> >> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >> >> University of Michigan Law School >> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >> >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is >> confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >> disclosure by law. 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Receipt of this >> message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%4 >> 0icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglashon%40comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com From mnowicki4 at icloud.com Mon Oct 26 01:46:38 2020 From: mnowicki4 at icloud.com (Michal Nowicki) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 20:46:38 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: References: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> Message-ID: <003c01d6ab39$d86cc1a0$894644e0$@icloud.com> The only benefit I can think of on the fly is the ability to upload the completed exam independently. As for getting familiar with the software, law schools and bar exam administrators allow examinees to take mock exams before the test to make sure the software is working and to get familiar with it. To be clear, I did not mean to recommend Examplify over Word or vice versa. I merely sought to clarify that when I took the bar, Examplify was accessible in non-secure mode in light of the responses suggesting that the software is not accessible under any setup. I hope this helps. Michal -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:28 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft Help me understand how taking an exam using exam soft or one of its derivatives in unsecure mode is any different from simply requesting the exam in word format and taking it that way. I wouldn’t want to have to navigate a platform like exam soft when having never used it before. Doing so puts the examinee at a disadvantage. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, I discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — does work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure mode. I don't know if anything changed since then. > > Michal > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE > MCGLASHON via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Oh no lady!! > You don't want to do that; > > I am in my third year in law school, > They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; > > If you do, > Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are done. > Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were their proposal. > At least my dss waived on through; > Why wouldn't they, > It let's them off the hook; > > This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of resistance. > > > Please advise as you like. > > Mike M. > > Mike mcglashon > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren > Bishop via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Lauren Bishop > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different >> software accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >> >> >> >>>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. >>>> Have any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%4 >>>> 0 >>>> gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich. >>> e >>> du >>> >> >> >> -- >> Seif Saqallah >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >> University of Michigan >> Juris Doctor/ >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >> | 2021 >> >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >> >> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >> >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >> >> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >> >> University of Michigan Law School >> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >> >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) >> is confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >> disclosure by law. 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Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 From jameyanne at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 03:37:51 2020 From: jameyanne at gmail.com (Jameyanne Fuller) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 23:37:51 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <003c01d6ab39$d86cc1a0$894644e0$@icloud.com> References: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> <003c01d6ab39$d86cc1a0$894644e0$@icloud.com> Message-ID: <012701d6ab49$625ca790$2715f6b0$@gmail.com> I took the Massachusetts bar in July 2019. When I was setting up my accommodations, I expressed concern that Examplify wouldn't be accessible because I knew Exam4, which we used for law school exams, was not accessible. But I was told Examplify was accessible with JAWS now, so that's what we did. And then halfway through my MPT it completely stopped working with JAWS. We had to pause my exam and get one of the board of bar examiners in there to call tech support and when we finally got someone who understood the problem on the phone, their response was "no, Examplify is not accessible with JAWS what are you doing?" And my proctor had to transfer my exam to word so I could finish it. I didn't even know before the exam that taking it in word was an accommodation I could have, because my concerns about accessibility were just dismissed. I passed the bar, so I didn't pursue the matter beyond expressing my frustration at what had happened, but the whole thing was unnecessarily stressful. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 9:47 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft The only benefit I can think of on the fly is the ability to upload the completed exam independently. As for getting familiar with the software, law schools and bar exam administrators allow examinees to take mock exams before the test to make sure the software is working and to get familiar with it. To be clear, I did not mean to recommend Examplify over Word or vice versa. I merely sought to clarify that when I took the bar, Examplify was accessible in non-secure mode in light of the responses suggesting that the software is not accessible under any setup. I hope this helps. Michal -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:28 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Tai Tomasi Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft Help me understand how taking an exam using exam soft or one of its derivatives in unsecure mode is any different from simply requesting the exam in word format and taking it that way. I wouldn’t want to have to navigate a platform like exam soft when having never used it before. Doing so puts the examinee at a disadvantage. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw wrote: > > I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, I discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — does work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure mode. I don't know if anything changed since then. > > Michal > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE > MCGLASHON via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Oh no lady!! > You don't want to do that; > > I am in my third year in law school, > They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; > > If you do, > Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow you to email it back to them when you are done. > Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities department as if it were their proposal. > At least my dss waived on through; > Why wouldn't they, > It let's them off the hook; > > This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of resistance. > > > Please advise as you like. > > Mike M. > > Mike mcglashon > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren > Bishop via BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Lauren Bishop > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different >> software accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >> >> >> >>>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>> >>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. >>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. >>>> Have any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lauren >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%4 >>>> 0 >>>> gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich. >>> e >>> du >>> >> >> >> -- >> Seif Saqallah >> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >> University of Michigan >> Juris Doctor/ >> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >> | 2021 >> >> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >> >> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >> >> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >> >> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >> >> University of Michigan Law School >> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >> >> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) >> is confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >> disclosure by law. 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Receipt of this >> message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96% >> 4 >> 0icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/michael.mcglasho > n%40comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40iclo > ud.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mnowicki4%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jameyanne%40gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 04:11:57 2020 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 23:11:57 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] if you schmooze, you'll never lose In-Reply-To: <00d201d6ab46$5dce7440$196b5cc0$@comcast.net> References: <00d201d6ab46$5dce7440$196b5cc0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Mike: I couldn't follow this. Can you rephrase? Sanho > On Oct 25, 2020, at 10:17 PM, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw wrote: > > Okay guys: > > Here it is; > > We are blind, > > We work with prof all year, > > We sit by "campfire" nd kick things around; > > Why would'nt I want that guy grading my paper knowing who it is by my > writing style; > > And > > That I took the time to learn the law; > > Agter all, even if they say different, they want us to learn the law; > > So, > > Want them to learn who it is paper they are grading; > > Maybe, > > They will give me the "first down"; for the effort; > > > > > > Please advise as you like. > > > > Mike M. > > > > Mike mcglashon > > Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net > > Ph: 618 783 9331 > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From kaybaycar at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 04:18:04 2020 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 00:18:04 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: <012701d6ab49$625ca790$2715f6b0$@gmail.com> References: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> <003c01d6ab39$d86cc1a0$894644e0$@icloud.com> <012701d6ab49$625ca790$2715f6b0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: At my university, anyone who uses assistive technology is expected to take the exams in Word and then send them back to disability services so they can upload the answers under our anonymous grading number. I don't actually get another choice. I believe the other students also use ExamSoft, but I was told it would lock down any assistive technology. You would think software like this can go into accessible mode or something so that a student could use assistive technology. Since most virtual tests are open book these days anyway, perhaps the software isn't always secure, but that doesn't mean it was meant for screen readers. Hang in there, Lauren. Being a 1L is kind of like playing the game where you spin a wheel and wonder which random accessibility issue will magically pop up this week. I haven't had that specific one, but I feel the struggle. Julie On 10/25/20, Jameyanne Fuller via BlindLaw wrote: > I took the Massachusetts bar in July 2019. When I was setting up my > accommodations, I expressed concern that Examplify wouldn't be accessible > because I knew Exam4, which we used for law school exams, was not > accessible. But I was told Examplify was accessible with JAWS now, so that's > what we did. And then halfway through my MPT it completely stopped working > with JAWS. We had to pause my exam and get one of the board of bar examiners > in there to call tech support and when we finally got someone who understood > the problem on the phone, their response was "no, Examplify is not > accessible with JAWS what are you doing?" And my proctor had to transfer my > exam to word so I could finish it. I didn't even know before the exam that > taking it in word was an accommodation I could have, because my concerns > about accessibility were just dismissed. I passed the bar, so I didn't > pursue the matter beyond expressing my frustration at what had happened, but > the whole thing was unnecessarily stressful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via > BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 9:47 PM > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: Michal Nowicki > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > The only benefit I can think of on the fly is the ability to upload the > completed exam independently. As for getting familiar with the software, law > schools and bar exam administrators allow examinees to take mock exams > before the test to make sure the software is working and to get familiar > with it. > > To be clear, I did not mean to recommend Examplify over Word or vice versa. > I merely sought to clarify that when I took the bar, Examplify was > accessible in non-secure mode in light of the responses suggesting that the > software is not accessible under any setup. I hope this helps. > > Michal > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via > BlindLaw > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:28 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Tai Tomasi > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft > > Help me understand how taking an exam using exam soft or one of its > derivatives in unsecure mode is any different from simply requesting the > exam in word format and taking it that way. I wouldn’t want to have to > navigate a platform like exam soft when having never used it before. Doing > so puts the examinee at a disadvantage. > > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > >> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Michal Nowicki via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I took the IL bar in July 2018. Although I got Word as an accommodation, >> I discovered that Examplify — ExamSoft's newest platform at the time — >> does work with JAWS, as long as the exam is administered in non-secure >> mode. I don't know if anything changed since then. >> >> Michal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of MIKE >> MCGLASHON via BlindLaw >> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:01 PM >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: MIKE MCGLASHON >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft >> >> Oh no lady!! >> You don't want to do that; >> >> I am in my third year in law school, >> They use examsoft and exam4 for their finals; >> >> If you do, >> Here's what I did:Talk to eac of your professors, Get them to allow you to >> receive the exam from them directly, Then, Make sure they agree to allow >> you to email it back to them when you are done. >> Also, make sure you claim that you are okay with waiving the anonymous >> requirement; Then, Have each of th professors write to disabilities >> department as if it were their proposal. >> At least my dss waived on through; >> Why wouldn't they, >> It let's them off the hook; >> >> This is just my way of handling the issue with the least amount of >> resistance. >> >> >> Please advise as you like. >> >> Mike M. >> >> Mike mcglashon >> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net >> Ph: 618 783 9331 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren >> Bishop via BlindLaw >> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:42 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Lauren Bishop >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Exam soft >> >> Thank you so much. This whole situation makes my blood boil. They work >> with about 2000 organizations. I hope they’ll eventually decide to make >> their programs accessible. I am working with my disability services >> office to get some alternative arrangements in the works. >> Lauren >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Same here; bar jurisdictions that use it need give different >>> software accommodations in place of examsoft and examplify. >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On 10/25/20, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> Last I knew, examSoft is not accessible with any screen reader. >>>> >>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. >>>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical >>>> errors. >>>> >>>>> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I have some take-home finals that will be using exam soft. When I >>>>> tried to navigate out of the window to open my notes during a mock >>>>> exam, my computer would not speak to me when I reentered the >>>>> exemplify window. Are used jaws and NVDA with the same results. >>>>> Have any of you had any luck using this software? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Lauren >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhoneHave any of you had any luck using this software? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Lauren >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%4 >>>>> 0 >>>>> gmail.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich. >>>> e >>>> du >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Seif Saqallah >>> (Pronouns: he/him/his.) >>> University of Michigan >>> Juris Doctor/ >>> Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Candidate >>> | 2021 >>> >>> International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, >>> Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 >>> >>> 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu >>> >>> Student Attorney | International Transactions Clinic >>> >>> Student Attorney | Civil-Criminal Litigation Clinic >>> >>> University of Michigan Law School >>> www.law.umich.edu/ITC >>> www.law.umich.edu/clinical/generalclinic/Pages/default.aspx >>> >>> The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) >>> is confidential and may contain privileged information protected from >>> disclosure by law. 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McGinnity MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, JD Candidate 2023 From dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com Mon Oct 26 05:20:24 2020 From: dianaoliveira58 at gmail.com (Diana1) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 01:20:24 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Exam soft In-Reply-To: References: <002601d6ab35$f9b121c0$ed136540$@icloud.com> <003c01d6ab39$d86cc1a0$894644e0$@icloud.com> <012701d6ab49$625ca790$2715f6b0$@gmail.com>, Message-ID: <8E0D8AA3-3B4A-4F36-96A2-1B954570FCA1@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com Tue Oct 27 15:17:07 2020 From: rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com (rwayne1 at nyc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:17:07 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Looking for Accessible CLE Accredited in New York Message-ID: <006c01d6ac74$3ca37f20$b5ea7d60$@nyc.rr.com> Hi All: As the subject of this message indicates, I am looking for accessible webinars or on demand CLE for which I can get credit in New York. I tried the New York City Bar Association, both live and on demand, and was unsuccessful. I'm not sure if it's inaccessible, or if it is my lack of tech savvy. I have not yet tried the New York State Bar Association, or the ABA. If anyone has had experience with either of these, please contact me off list. As for CLE's given out of state, New York makes you jump through hoops to get them accredited. So that lets out the tenBroek Symposium or NABL summer meeting, unless we jump through hoops first. I will much appreciate any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Ray Wayne From seifs at umich.edu Tue Oct 27 15:22:44 2020 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 11:22:44 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Looking for Accessible CLE Accredited in New York In-Reply-To: <006c01d6ac74$3ca37f20$b5ea7d60$@nyc.rr.com> References: <006c01d6ac74$3ca37f20$b5ea7d60$@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: I am also interested in this please; +1 and presumably many. Sincerely, Seif On 10/27/20, Ray Wayne via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi All: > As the subject of this message indicates, I am looking for accessible > webinars or on demand CLE for which I can get credit in New York. I tried > the New York City Bar Association, both live and on demand, and was > unsuccessful. I'm not sure if it's inaccessible, or if it is my lack of > tech > savvy. I have not yet tried the New York State Bar Association, or the ABA. > If anyone has had experience with either of these, please contact me off > list. > As for CLE's given out of state, New York makes you jump through hoops to > get them accredited. So that lets out the tenBroek Symposium or NABL summer > meeting, unless we jump through hoops first. > I will much appreciate any suggestions. Thanks in advance. > Ray Wayne > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.edu > -- Seif Saqallah (Pronouns: he/him/his.) 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