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Whatever your area of specialization, we have a home for you. To get involved, join us here. Become a member today → [Facebook]‌ [Twitter] ‌ [Instagram] ‌ [YouTube] ‌ American Bar Association Section of Civil Rights and Social Justice | 1050 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington, DC 20036 Unsubscribe noel.nightingale at ed.gov Update Profile | Constant Contact Data Notice Sent by crsj at americanbar.org powered by [Trusted Email from Constant Contact - Try it FREE today.] Try email marketing for free today! From mrallman116 at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 17:21:23 2021 From: mrallman116 at gmail.com (mrallman116 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 13:21:23 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Accessibility ofCaseText with screen readers Message-ID: Hi everybody. I recall there was a thread recently about the accessibility of some case law databases so bear with me if this question was already answered. What do folks think about the accessibility of case Text? I signed up for a free trial and attempted to download a copy of a statute that I found as a PDF but the download button is not labeled. I see other unlabeled buttons as well. What have other people experienced? I am using jaws 2021 and Windows 10. I recall taking a brief look at this database about a year ago and thinking it was a bit more accessible. I am doing a project that involves researching a large number of state statutes and I thought this database might work well for that which is why I was checking it out. in my current job I am not actually practicing law so we don’t have a subscription to a database like Westlaw or Lexus. Just providing some context there. Thanks. for any thoughts . Melissa Sent from my iPhone From vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 14:41:57 2021 From: vaughnlbrown87 at gmail.com (Vaughn Brown) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 07:41:57 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Accessibility ofCaseText with screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Melissa, Have you tried using the state website or the court of the state's website? Many lawyers do not have access to fancy databases, instead they use free resources such as court sites. Kind regards, Vaughn On 6/8/21, Melissa Allman via BlindLaw wrote: > Hi everybody. I recall there was a thread recently about the accessibility > of some case law databases so bear with me if this question was already > answered. What do folks think about the accessibility of case Text? > > I signed up for a free trial and attempted to download a copy of a statute > that I found as a PDF but the download button is not labeled. I see other > unlabeled buttons as well. What have other people experienced? I am using > jaws 2021 and Windows 10. I recall taking a brief look at this database > about a year ago and thinking it was a bit more accessible. I am doing a > project that involves researching a large number of state statutes and I > thought this database might work well for that which is why I was checking > it out. in my current job I am not actually practicing law so we don’t have > a subscription to a database like Westlaw or Lexus. Just providing some > context there. Thanks. for any thoughts . > Melissa > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/vaughnlbrown87%40gmail.com > From mrallman116 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 15:23:49 2021 From: mrallman116 at gmail.com (mrallman116 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:23:49 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Accessibility ofCaseText with screen readers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D113F44-3915-43F3-AD6C-C2A41E7B2546@gmail.com> Yes definitely aware there are some free resources out there that I may in the end end up using. Since it’s a large volume of research I was looking for some thing reasonably priced and efficient which is how I came upon Casetext. Just wasn’t sure if others had experienced accessibility issues or unlabeled buttons. Thanks though. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Vaughn Brown via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello, Melissa, > > Have you tried using the state website or the court of the state's > website? Many lawyers do not have access to fancy databases, instead > they use free resources such as court sites. > > Kind regards, > > Vaughn > >> On 6/8/21, Melissa Allman via BlindLaw wrote: >> Hi everybody. I recall there was a thread recently about the accessibility >> of some case law databases so bear with me if this question was already >> answered. What do folks think about the accessibility of case Text? >> >> I signed up for a free trial and attempted to download a copy of a statute >> that I found as a PDF but the download button is not labeled. I see other >> unlabeled buttons as well. What have other people experienced? I am using >> jaws 2021 and Windows 10. I recall taking a brief look at this database >> about a year ago and thinking it was a bit more accessible. I am doing a >> project that involves researching a large number of state statutes and I >> thought this database might work well for that which is why I was checking >> it out. in my current job I am not actually practicing law so we don’t have >> a subscription to a database like Westlaw or Lexus. Just providing some >> context there. Thanks. for any thoughts . >> Melissa >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/vaughnlbrown87%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/mrallman116%40gmail.com From mwaters104 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 19:32:17 2021 From: mwaters104 at gmail.com (mwaters104 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:32:17 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission Message-ID: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> Questions regarding Law School admissions. I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several questions. My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for the exam? 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, Mike Michael Waters M.D. From pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 19:53:07 2021 From: pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com (pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:53:07 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] more woes of a blind law student... Message-ID: <005d01d75d69$12332550$36996ff0$@gmail.com> Hello all! What did you all do about the bluebook? Seems like an another annoying hurdle that might be managed with the proper blind skills. Any pointers are highly appreciated. Thanx! From sanho817 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 19:57:23 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:57:23 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike, 1. Yes. Everyone does. 2. Bookshare has accessible study materials. My strategy was to look up "LSAT" on Bookshare and run through the books they have. A Bookshare account would be $50 or $70 a year for you until you're a student. Then it would be free. I could write a separate message to explain the most convenient way to open and read a Bookshare book. Then, for the Logic Games section, you'd probably use Microsoft Excel to create an accessible spreadsheet with variables you can rearrange at will. 3. 3. There are. Someone else will know which in particular. I didn't use one. Warmth, Sanho On 6/9/21, mwaters104--- via BlindLaw wrote: > Questions regarding Law School admissions. > > I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 > years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years > ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or > disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several > questions. > > My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT > > 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for > the exam? > > 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? > > Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, > > Mike > > > > Michael Waters M.D. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > From annarwalsh95 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 19:59:38 2021 From: annarwalsh95 at gmail.com (Anna Walsh) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:59:38 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] more woes of a blind law student... In-Reply-To: <005d01d75d69$12332550$36996ff0$@gmail.com> References: <005d01d75d69$12332550$36996ff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22A73A85-C52C-42EE-B69A-9CE9536AC295@gmail.com> I would recommend getting a subscription from legal bluebook. You can find it at https://www.legal bluebook.com I found it to be very accessible and much more navigable than getting it in a PDF format. Anna Walsh > On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Yoon via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello all! What did you all do about the bluebook? Seems like an another annoying hurdle that might be managed with the proper blind skills. Any pointers are highly appreciated. Thanx! > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/annarwalsh95%40gmail.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 20:00:25 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:00:25 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] more woes of a blind law student... In-Reply-To: <005d01d75d69$12332550$36996ff0$@gmail.com> References: <005d01d75d69$12332550$36996ff0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I used their website, though the Bookshare copy in XML is almost as good. You can use the font command on your screen-reader of choice and go word-by-word through each example while you're learning. The font command is insert or capslock plus F. Alternatively, you can set up soundschemes in JAWS to auditorily alert you to font changes in realtime. Warmth, Sanho On 6/9/21, Yoon via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello all! What did you all do about the bluebook? Seems like an another > annoying hurdle that might be managed with the proper blind skills. Any > pointers are highly appreciated. Thanx! > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > From NSingh at cov.com Wed Jun 9 20:02:25 2021 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 20:02:25 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2191ac3c288748bcb79842175b3056f7@CBIvEX11EUS.cov.com> Dr. Waters, Brief responses follow: Yes, you still need to take the exam unless you apply to a law school that has made the LSAT optional. In order to prepare non-visually, you should develop a way to do the logic games. This has been challenging for many individuals without sight, but the fundamental idea depends on your using a non-visual technique whereby you can perform real-time spatial manipulations. For example, you have to decide who sits at a table. Some conditions are given to you; other conditions change, and you have to solve the seating chart based on both sets of conditions, with the ability to go to the next problem and a new condition or conditions at play. I personally used a Braille note taker and moved Braille configurations. Others have used Excel. Just find a method that you can use quickly and accurately. This will probably involve some experimentation, so consulting old tests, available at LSAC, can give you a flavor for what the logic games entail. The other sections are not nearly as anxiety-inducing. Once you have a way to tackle the logic games, prep is taking as many practice tests under timed conditions as you can. LSAC has many prior tests, though I am forgetting their format--HTML, PDF or something else. They should be accessible with a screen reader. In order to build or practice the skills for each section, complete the three Power Score books. These offer actual LSAT problems. Other test prep books do not offer real problems, so they are not a good reflection of the LSAT. As for courses, I do not know. Others here may have better ideas. I hired an independent tutor for 4-5 sessions and was fine. Happy to send you the tutor's contact details off list if that would be helpful. He was great, and he can also review your law school application. Regards, Nikki -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of mwaters104--- via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:32 PM To: blind law list serv Cc: mwaters104 at gmail.com Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission [EXTERNAL] Questions regarding Law School admissions. I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several questions. My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for the exam? 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, Mike Michael Waters M.D. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 20:09:23 2021 From: pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com (pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 16:09:23 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006401d75d6b$57f0ed50$07d2c7f0$@gmail.com> It is my knowledge that all law school applying students need LSAT or GRE scores regardless of life experiences. Unless you apply to a non-ABA accredited law school, in which case you would need to take that school's version of the LSAT exam, there are many test prep material as well as sites and programs that offer to help you for a fee. I thought power score and Kaplan review was a good bang for the buck. And lastly, as a blind student the logical games part is nearly impossible to figure out unless you use Braille. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of mwaters104--- via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:32 PM To: blind law list serv Cc: mwaters104 at gmail.com Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission Questions regarding Law School admissions. I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several questions. My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for the exam? 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, Mike Michael Waters M.D. _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pleaseletmesee2016%40gmail.com From kaybaycar at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 20:25:17 2021 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 16:25:17 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <006401d75d6b$57f0ed50$07d2c7f0$@gmail.com> References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> <006401d75d6b$57f0ed50$07d2c7f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good afternoon, Yes, the LSAT is required by most law schools. Some will accept the GRE, but taking the GRE will involve doing math in an accessible way. I took the HTML version of the LSAT using the JAWS screen reader. I read the questions and answers with my screen reader and had a scribe present who filled out the scantron for me. I actually used Kahn Academy's LSAT prep course. There were a few odd quirks with the program, but it was accessible, and I believe I was able to set it so that I took my practice tests to reflect the actual time constraints I would face rather than the normal time nondisabled test-takers get. When you apply for accommodations, you can apply for extra time on the test. I would highly recommend applying for the double time accommodation as the logic games section in particular will take you a little longer to complete. I also recommend the Powerscore books. I liked studying with them before I got started with Kahn Academy because they gave me some strategies for completing the various sections. I've heard good things about Kaplyn Prep as well, but that costs, so if you don't have the funds, Kahn Academy may be a better fit for you as that is free. Hope that was helpful. Julie On 6/9/21, Yoon via BlindLaw wrote: > It is my knowledge that all law school applying students need LSAT or GRE > scores regardless of life experiences. Unless you apply to a non-ABA > accredited law school, in which case you would need to take that school's > version of the LSAT exam, there are many test prep material as well as sites > and programs that offer to help you for a fee. I thought power score and > Kaplan review was a good bang for the buck. And lastly, as a blind student > the logical games part is nearly impossible to figure out unless you use > Braille. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of mwaters104--- via > BlindLaw > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:32 PM > To: blind law list serv > Cc: mwaters104 at gmail.com > Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission > > Questions regarding Law School admissions. > > I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 > years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years > ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or > disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several > questions. > > My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT > > 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for > the exam? > > 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? > > Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, > > Mike > > > > Michael Waters M.D. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pleaseletmesee2016%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > -- Julie A. McGinnity MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of Law, JD Candidate 2023 From laura.wolk at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 21:24:40 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 17:24:40 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> <006401d75d6b$57f0ed50$07d2c7f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: When are logic games being phased out? Soon, no? On 6/9/21, Julie McGinnity via BlindLaw wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Yes, the LSAT is required by most law schools. Some will accept the > GRE, but taking the GRE will involve doing math in an accessible way. > I took the HTML version of the LSAT using the JAWS screen reader. I > read the questions and answers with my screen reader and had a scribe > present who filled out the scantron for me. > > I actually used Kahn Academy's LSAT prep course. There were a few odd > quirks with the program, but it was accessible, and I believe I was > able to set it so that I took my practice tests to reflect the actual > time constraints I would face rather than the normal time nondisabled > test-takers get. When you apply for accommodations, you can apply for > extra time on the test. I would highly recommend applying for the > double time accommodation as the logic games section in particular > will take you a little longer to complete. > > I also recommend the Powerscore books. I liked studying with them > before I got started with Kahn Academy because they gave me some > strategies for completing the various sections. > > I've heard good things about Kaplyn Prep as well, but that costs, so > if you don't have the funds, Kahn Academy may be a better fit for you > as that is free. > > Hope that was helpful. > > Julie > > > On 6/9/21, Yoon via BlindLaw wrote: >> It is my knowledge that all law school applying students need LSAT or GRE >> scores regardless of life experiences. Unless you apply to a non-ABA >> accredited law school, in which case you would need to take that school's >> version of the LSAT exam, there are many test prep material as well as >> sites >> and programs that offer to help you for a fee. I thought power score and >> Kaplan review was a good bang for the buck. And lastly, as a blind >> student >> the logical games part is nearly impossible to figure out unless you use >> Braille. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of mwaters104--- >> via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:32 PM >> To: blind law list serv >> Cc: mwaters104 at gmail.com >> Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission >> >> Questions regarding Law School admissions. >> >> I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 >> years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 >> years >> ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health >> or >> disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several >> questions. >> >> My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT >> >> 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare >> for >> the exam? >> >> 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? >> >> Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> Michael Waters M.D. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/pleaseletmesee2016%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Julie A. McGinnity > MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of > Law, JD Candidate 2023 > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 23:50:59 2021 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 18:50:59 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> References: <000901d75d66$286739e0$7935ada0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8C9344DC-3BE1-46FD-B335-F826F0287126@gmail.com> Mike and Anyone Else Applying to Law School, I am more than happy to help you. I start law school this Fall and love helping people plan for the LSAT and prepare their applications. Feel free to email me directly or text/ call me at 4132503523. -Syed Syed Mahmud Rizvi SRizvi at jd24.law.Harvard.edu (413)250-3523 JD Candidate, Harvard Law School, Class of 2024 BA in Government, The University of Texas at Austin, Class of 2020 Paul and Daisy Soros Fellow SEO Law Fellow > On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:33 PM, mwaters104--- via BlindLaw wrote: > > Questions regarding Law School admissions. > > I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 > years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years > ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or > disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several > questions. > > My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT > > 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for > the exam? > > 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? > > Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, > > Mike > > > > Michael Waters M.D. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 03:16:08 2021 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 23:16:08 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions regarding Law School admission In-Reply-To: <8C9344DC-3BE1-46FD-B335-F826F0287126@gmail.com> References: <8C9344DC-3BE1-46FD-B335-F826F0287126@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone. Since we are discussing about law school and the LSAT exam, I will be taking the LSAT exam this October.My exam will be Full online due to the pandemic. I already submitted my acommodation request to LSAC three weeks ago, but I haven’t heard from them yet if they approve them or not. I just have some questions, For those how use lawhub website, is it necessary to get the acommodation approve to start practicing the exams, special to have extension for the online practice exams? Do you have any strategies to prepare for the LSAT sections, specially the logic games section of the test? This is my first exam. I did download the Powerscore Bible books, but do you have any other strategies. Now when it comes to applying for law schools, I’m planning to begin law school next year on the Fall. Does this mean I should apply for law schools beginning this September? And lastly this question for the students, when I should begin to ask my Professors for their letter of recommendations? Just wondering. I will really appreciate any help or suggestions. Look forward to hear from you soon. Helga Schreiber Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max > On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw wrote: > > Mike and Anyone Else Applying to Law School, > > I am more than happy to help you. I start law school this Fall and love helping people plan for the LSAT and prepare their applications. Feel free to email me directly or text/ call me at 4132503523. > > -Syed > > > > Syed Mahmud Rizvi > > SRizvi at jd24.law.Harvard.edu > (413)250-3523 > > JD Candidate, Harvard Law School, Class of 2024 > BA in Government, The University of Texas at Austin, Class of 2020 > > Paul and Daisy Soros Fellow > SEO Law Fellow > > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:33 PM, mwaters104--- via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Questions regarding Law School admissions. >> >> I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident 7 >> years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 years >> ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the health or >> disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several >> questions. >> >> My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT >> >> 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare for >> the exam? >> >> 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? >> >> Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> Michael Waters M.D. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jun 10 14:28:39 2021 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. 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Helga if you want to start law school next year 2022, you should start studying for the LSAT and asking for letters of rec, just let your professors know of your plans and that you will require a letter of rec. If I remember correctly some applications open up this August and September, so as soon as you start your applications use the LSAC system to send them the official request. Some professors take longer and so you should send them emails before and after you finish and send your applications. All should be done this year. Apply as soon as possible to law schools, because all law admissions are on a rolling basis, so first come first serve. Oh and do not forget to apply to Notre Dame Law. Good luck! On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:17 PM Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi everyone. Since we are discussing about law school and the LSAT exam, I > will be taking the LSAT exam this October.My exam will be Full online due > to the pandemic. I already submitted my acommodation request to LSAC three > weeks ago, but I haven’t heard from them yet if they approve them or not. > I just have some questions, For those how use lawhub website, is it > necessary to get the acommodation approve to start practicing the exams, > special to have extension for the online practice exams? Do you have any > strategies to prepare for the LSAT sections, specially the logic games > section of the test? This is my first exam. I did download the Powerscore > Bible books, but do you have any other strategies. Now when it comes to > applying for law schools, I’m planning to begin law school next year on the > Fall. Does this mean I should apply for law schools beginning this > September? And lastly this question for the students, when I should begin > to ask my Professors for their letter of recommendations? Just wondering. > I will really appreciate any help or suggestions. Look forward to hear from > you soon. > > Helga Schreiber > Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max > > > > > On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw > wrote: > > > > Mike and Anyone Else Applying to Law School, > > > > I am more than happy to help you. I start law school this Fall and love > helping people plan for the LSAT and prepare their applications. Feel free > to email me directly or text/ call me at 4132503523. > > > > -Syed > > > > > > > > Syed Mahmud Rizvi > > > > SRizvi at jd24.law.Harvard.edu > > (413)250-3523 > > > > JD Candidate, Harvard Law School, Class of 2024 > > BA in Government, The University of Texas at Austin, Class of 2020 > > > > Paul and Daisy Soros Fellow > > SEO Law Fellow > > > > > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:33 PM, mwaters104--- via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> Questions regarding Law School admissions. > >> > >> I am a Physician, with 30 years clinical experience. Due to an accident > 7 > >> years ago I am totally blind . I finished my Undergraduate Degree 39 > years > >> ago. My future endeavor is to pursue a career as a Lawyer, in the > health or > >> disability fields. In order to apply to a Law School, I have several > >> questions. > >> > >> My Questions are: 1. With my experience, do I need to take the LSAT > >> > >> 2. If I need to take the exam, how does a person without vision prepare > for > >> the exam? > >> > >> 3. Are there Prep. Courses that adapt for loss of vision? > >> > >> Thank you in advance for your attention to these questions, > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> > >> Michael Waters M.D. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%40gmail.com > From teresitarios22 at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 19:11:45 2021 From: teresitarios22 at gmail.com (Teresita Rios) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:11:45 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? Message-ID: Hello Friends. This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we are lost. Thank you! From sanho817 at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 19:25:05 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:25:05 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Teresita, What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it crashes. Warmth, Sanho On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: > Hello Friends. > This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. > finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing problem > with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at school they say > my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we are lost. > > Thank you! > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > From teresitarios22 at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 19:45:16 2021 From: teresitarios22 at gmail.com (Teresita Rios) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:45:16 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? Is there anything I can do? I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had to force restart it. I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much material. Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same time? On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Teresita, > > What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may > have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA > being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The > more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and > take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two > different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it > only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The > only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it > crashes. > > Warmth, > Sanho > > On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Friends. > > This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. > > finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing problem > > with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at school they say > > my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we are lost. > > > > Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%40gmail.com > From NSingh at cov.com Thu Jun 10 20:16:53 2021 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:16:53 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35153efc48a249d084c69f75a437e545@CBIvEX11EUS.cov.com> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, that can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Teresita Rios Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? [EXTERNAL] I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? Is there anything I can do? I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had to force restart it. I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much material. Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same time? On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Teresita, > > What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may > have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA > being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The > more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and > take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two > different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it > only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The > only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it > crashes. > > Warmth, > Sanho > > On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello Friends. > > This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. > > finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing > > problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at > > school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we are lost. > > > > Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail > .com > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 20:41:36 2021 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:41:36 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Firm Software Message-ID: <85A4B983-B99B-4C26-97AE-DC96A552A6E8@gmail.com> any tips on using firm software like carpe diem and net docs? Syed From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 21:06:30 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:06:30 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Firm Software In-Reply-To: <85A4B983-B99B-4C26-97AE-DC96A552A6E8@gmail.com> References: <85A4B983-B99B-4C26-97AE-DC96A552A6E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Carpe diem is not accessible. On 6/10/21, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw wrote: > any tips on using firm software like carpe diem and net docs? > > Syed > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From laura.wolk at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 21:08:29 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:08:29 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <35153efc48a249d084c69f75a437e545@CBIvEX11EUS.cov.com> References: <35153efc48a249d084c69f75a437e545@CBIvEX11EUS.cov.com> Message-ID: I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine to crash. On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have > multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, that > can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to > help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal > laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via > BlindLaw > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Teresita Rios > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. > Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was > working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times > during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I > wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? > Is there anything I can do? > I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had > to force restart it. > I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as > soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much > material. > Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same > time? > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> Teresita, >> >> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >> crashes. >> >> Warmth, >> Sanho >> >> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >> > Hello Friends. >> > This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >> > finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >> > problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >> > school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we >> > are lost. >> > >> > Thank you! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> > for >> > BlindLaw: >> > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >> .com >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >> 0gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 02:29:05 2021 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 22:29:05 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in various ways. Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make tools that work right. Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. University at Buffalo School of Law, J.D. anticipated spring 2023 716-563-9882 > On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome > is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many > Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine > to crash. > >> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, that >> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Teresita Rios >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times >> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >> Is there anything I can do? >> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had >> to force restart it. >> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as >> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >> material. >> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same >> time? >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >>> Teresita, >>> >>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>> crashes. >>> >>> Warmth, >>> Sanho >>> >>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> Hello Friends. >>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we >>>> are lost. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>> .com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>> 0gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 02:50:19 2021 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (luis Mendez) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 22:50:19 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5C226BD2-CE67-4919-9A7F-435D6496F756@gmail.com> What Dell machine do you have, and what are its specifications?? Write off line or call if you want. Luis Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in various ways. > > Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make tools that work right. > > Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > University at Buffalo > School of Law, J.D. > anticipated spring 2023 > 716-563-9882 > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >> to crash. >> >>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, that >>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via >>> BlindLaw >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> [EXTERNAL] >>> >>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times >>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>> Is there anything I can do? >>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had >>> to force restart it. >>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as >>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>> material. >>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same >>> time? >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Teresita, >>>> >>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>> crashes. >>>> >>>> Warmth, >>>> Sanho >>>> >>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we >>>>> are lost. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>> .com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From teresitarios22 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 05:11:04 2021 From: teresitarios22 at gmail.com (Teresita Rios) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 01:11:04 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <5C226BD2-CE67-4919-9A7F-435D6496F756@gmail.com> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <5C226BD2-CE67-4919-9A7F-435D6496F756@gmail.com> Message-ID: Maura!!! Me too!! I was so confident when starting law school my grades were awesome, I was ready with a brand new DELL XPS with 1 TB ssd. I was ready to go. and then this thing keeps glitching, overheating and shutting down every 3 to 5 hours. I just don't get it. It hates PDFs, So I only ask for word docs now. I am just a workaholic law student, why can't I work without having to worry about melting my computer and my hand? My GPA is horrible and it matters. I am determined to figure this issue out during summer because I need to bring My GPA up. If anyone knows of any experts let me know I think I am done,Sorry everyone. On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:51 PM luis Mendez via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > What Dell machine do you have, and what are its specifications?? Write > off line or call if you want. > > Luis > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 10, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with > countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on the > part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. The > hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in > various ways. > > > > Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, > PDF and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and > sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design > our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make > tools that work right. > > > > Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has > been the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > > University at Buffalo > > School of Law, J.D. > > anticipated spring 2023 > > 716-563-9882 > > > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> > >> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome > >> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many > >> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine > >> to crash. > >> > >>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > >>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have > >>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, > that > >>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory > to > >>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal > >>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita > Rios via > >>> BlindLaw > >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM > >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List > >>> Cc: Teresita Rios > >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >>> > >>> [EXTERNAL] > >>> > >>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. > >>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was > >>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three > times > >>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I > >>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? > >>> Is there anything I can do? > >>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and > I had > >>> to force restart it. > >>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I > save as > >>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much > >>> material. > >>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at > the same > >>> time? > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < > >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Teresita, > >>>> > >>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may > >>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA > >>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The > >>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and > >>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two > >>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it > >>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The > >>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it > >>>> crashes. > >>>> > >>>> Warmth, > >>>> Sanho > >>>> > >>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: > >>>>> Hello Friends. > >>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. > >>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing > >>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at > >>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so > we > >>>>> are lost. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you! > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>>>> for > >>>>> BlindLaw: > >>>>> > >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail > >>>> .com > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >>>> BlindLaw: > >>>> > >>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 > >>>> 0gmail.com > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >>> BlindLaw: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> BlindLaw mailing list > >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >>> BlindLaw: > >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> BlindLaw mailing list > >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%40gmail.com > From dave146757 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 11 05:47:43 2021 From: dave146757 at yahoo.com (David Freeman) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 22:47:43 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have been using Zoomtext for a number of years and I have gone through periods of having similar issues. As others have mentioned, typically it’s caused by a memory or graphics card issue. Other times it has just been certain software that isn’t loving Zoomtext. My only advice is that I do find the technical support through Zoomtext to be helpful. But, usually it only works when they can coordinate with my employer’s IT on the other side. Not sure this was helpful, but you aren’t alone with the issues you are experiencing. David Freeman Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: > > Maura!!! > Me too!! I was so confident when starting law school my grades > were awesome, I was ready with a brand new DELL XPS with 1 TB ssd. I was > ready to go. and then this thing keeps glitching, overheating and > shutting down every 3 to 5 hours. > I just don't get it. > It hates PDFs, So I only ask for word docs now. > I am just a workaholic law student, why can't I work without having to > worry about melting my computer and my hand? > > My GPA is horrible and it matters. I am determined to figure this issue out > during summer because I need to bring My GPA up. > If anyone knows of any experts let me know > I think I am done,Sorry everyone. > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:51 PM luis Mendez via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >> What Dell machine do you have, and what are its specifications?? Write >> off line or call if you want. >> >> Luis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on the >> part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. The >> hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >> various ways. >>> >>> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, >> PDF and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >> our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make >> tools that work right. >>> >>> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has >> been the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>> University at Buffalo >>> School of Law, J.D. >>> anticipated spring 2023 >>> 716-563-9882 >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>>> to crash. >>>> >>>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >> that >>>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory >> to >>>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita >> Rios via >>>>> BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>>> >>>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>>> >>>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >> times >>>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and >> I had >>>>> to force restart it. >>>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I >> save as >>>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>>> material. >>>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at >> the same >>>>> time? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Teresita, >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>>> crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Warmth, >>>>>> Sanho >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >> we >>>>>>> are lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>>> .com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> >>>>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/dave146757%40yahoo.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 09:42:30 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 04:42:30 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. It's so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both physical and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my state's VocRehab people. Sanho > On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: > > I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in various ways. > > Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make tools that work right. > > Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > University at Buffalo > School of Law, J.D. > anticipated spring 2023 > 716-563-9882 > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >> to crash. >> >>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, that >>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via >>> BlindLaw >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> [EXTERNAL] >>> >>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three times >>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>> Is there anything I can do? >>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I had >>> to force restart it. >>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save as >>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>> material. >>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the same >>> time? >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Teresita, >>>> >>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>> crashes. >>>> >>>> Warmth, >>>> Sanho >>>> >>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so we >>>>> are lost. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>> .com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>> 0gmail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 09:59:44 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:59:44 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Internet can also factor in here. I upgraded my Internet and that vastly reduced my problems. On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. It's > so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at > least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a > year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so > that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact > problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both > machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both physical > and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned > the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once > acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about > these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my > state's VocRehab people. > > Sanho > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on >> the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. >> The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >> various ways. >> >> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF >> and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >> our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make >> tools that work right. >> >> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been >> the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> University at Buffalo >> School of Law, J.D. >> anticipated spring 2023 >> 716-563-9882 >> >>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>> to crash. >>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >>>> that >>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios >>>> via >>>> BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>> >>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >>>> times >>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I >>>> had >>>> to force restart it. >>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save >>>> as >>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>> material. >>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the >>>> same >>>> time? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Teresita, >>>>> >>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>> crashes. >>>>> >>>>> Warmth, >>>>> Sanho >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >>>>>> we >>>>>> are lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From heidicruiz at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 10:00:53 2021 From: heidicruiz at gmail.com (Heidi Contreras Ruiz) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:00:53 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: I also have a dell with 16 gigabytes using jaws/NVDA and it literally has been crashing 3 or 4 hours when using it. I thought I was going crazy because I let a sited family member barro it and it wasn't happening to them. So frustrating and I'm not even in law school yet! On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. It's > so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at > least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a > year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so > that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact > problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both > machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both physical > and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned > the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once > acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about > these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my > state's VocRehab people. > > Sanho > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on >> the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. >> The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >> various ways. >> >> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF >> and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >> our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make >> tools that work right. >> >> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been >> the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> University at Buffalo >> School of Law, J.D. >> anticipated spring 2023 >> 716-563-9882 >> >>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>> to crash. >>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >>>> that >>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios >>>> via >>>> BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>> >>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >>>> times >>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I >>>> had >>>> to force restart it. >>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save >>>> as >>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>> material. >>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the >>>> same >>>> time? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Teresita, >>>>> >>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>> crashes. >>>>> >>>>> Warmth, >>>>> Sanho >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >>>>>> we >>>>>> are lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/heidicruiz%40gmail.com > From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Fri Jun 11 10:42:32 2021 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:42:32 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20210611.104232.344.19@[192.168.1.100]> Are you guys using windows 10? If so, are you running it as it came = installed or Have you used something like winaero tweaker to turn off a = lot of the unnecessary eye candy and other garbage that slows it down? When I got my Dell laptop, the first thing I did was notice the same thing = you guys all did--horrible lagginess after an hour, crashing, etc. Then I = grab a copy of the windows 10 LTSC install media and wiped off the = re-installed windows and installed that. LTSC stands for long term = security channel, and it's only updated with security patches, so you = don't get those annoying update notices every five minutes like you do = with standard windows. Once I did that I ran Winaero Tweaker and turned off a lot of things that = slow the computer down, like telemetry and ads and arrow light and so on. = Now I can run the thing for weeks with no problem. Winaero has great = documentation on every tweak, so you can see what each one does. Highly = recommend doing this if you can. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Contreras Ruiz via BlindLaw To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Heidi Contreras Ruiz Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:00:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > I also have a dell with 16 gigabytes using jaws/NVDA and it literally has been crashing 3 or 4 hours when using it. I thought I was going crazy because I let a sited family member barro it and it wasn't happening to them. So frustrating and I'm not even in law school yet! On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. = It's > so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at > least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a > year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so > that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact > problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both > machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both = physical > and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned > the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once > acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about > these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my > state's VocRehab people. > > Sanho > >> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> ?I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on >> the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. >> The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >> various ways. >> >> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF >> and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >> our software. They have a captive audience and they don=92t care to make >> tools that work right. >> >> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been >> the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >> University at Buffalo >> School of Law, J.D. >> anticipated spring 2023 >> 716-563-9882 >> >>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> ?I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>> to crash. >>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >>>> that >>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory = to >>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios >>>> via >>>> BlindLaw >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>> >>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >>>> times >>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and = I >>>> had >>>> to force restart it. >>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I = save >>>> as >>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>> material. >>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the >>>> same >>>> time? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Teresita, >>>>> >>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>> crashes. >>>>> >>>>> Warmth, >>>>> Sanho >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >>>>>> we >>>>>> are lost. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>> for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>> .com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > = http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/heidicruiz%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for = BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rob_hudson3182%40opopanax.net From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 10:57:00 2021 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:57:00 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433A0226-77E0-40CF-8EE6-B4002D7F567D@gmail.com> Outrageous! I feel vindicated, but no less angry. And it is amazing to hear that so many of you have also been feeling, crazy, in response to these issues. My machine is also a state sponsored active benevolence. Or malevolence. I will keep this brief, but I have to come back to that feeling of, crazy. Throughout my epic journey with this laptop, every time I had to call tech-support, my local Center for assistive tech, I felt like everyone on the other end of the phone was baffled, and assuming that somehow the silly blind girl was pressing the wrong key commands. Likewise, if ever I needed to try and explain issues to professors because of interrupted workflow etc., I could never quite find the language. I despise feeling like I’m making excuses for problems that are entirely out of my control. I will try to resist dropping another rant here. However, this is clearly a pattern. Somehow the unhealthy relationship with delland our VR agencies needs to change. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. University at Buffalo School of Law, J.D. anticipated spring 2023 716-563-9882 > On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Heidi Contreras Ruiz via BlindLaw wrote: > > I also have a dell with 16 gigabytes using jaws/NVDA and it literally > has been crashing 3 or 4 hours when using it. I thought I was going > crazy because I let a sited family member barro it and it wasn't > happening to them. So frustrating and I'm not even in law school yet! > >> On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: >> Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. It's >> so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at >> least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a >> year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so >> that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact >> problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both >> machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both physical >> and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned >> the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once >> acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about >> these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my >> state's VocRehab people. >> >> Sanho >> >>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >>> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on >>> the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. >>> The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >>> various ways. >>> >>> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF >>> and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >>> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >>> our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make >>> tools that work right. >>> >>> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been >>> the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>> University at Buffalo >>> School of Law, J.D. >>> anticipated spring 2023 >>> 716-563-9882 >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>>> to crash. >>>> >>>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >>>>> that >>>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios >>>>> via >>>>> BlindLaw >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>>> >>>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>>> >>>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >>>>> times >>>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I >>>>> had >>>>> to force restart it. >>>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save >>>>> as >>>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>>> material. >>>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the >>>>> same >>>>> time? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Teresita, >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>>> crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Warmth, >>>>>> Sanho >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> are lost. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>>> .com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/heidicruiz%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com From seifs at umich.edu Fri Jun 11 11:02:20 2021 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? Warmly, Seif From sanho817 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 11:05:34 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:05:34 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <433A0226-77E0-40CF-8EE6-B4002D7F567D@gmail.com> References: <433A0226-77E0-40CF-8EE6-B4002D7F567D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Agreed wholeheartedly. And I've reinstalled Windows twice to no effect. I'd be happy to learn another way. > On Jun 11, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw wrote: > > Outrageous! I feel vindicated, but no less angry. And it is amazing to hear that so many of you have also been feeling, crazy, in response to these issues. My machine is also a state sponsored active benevolence. Or malevolence. > > I will keep this brief, but I have to come back to that feeling of, crazy. Throughout my epic journey with this laptop, every time I had to call tech-support, my local Center for assistive tech, I felt like everyone on the other end of the phone was baffled, and assuming that somehow the silly blind girl was pressing the wrong key commands. Likewise, if ever I needed to try and explain issues to professors because of interrupted workflow etc., I could never quite find the language. I despise feeling like I’m making excuses for problems that are entirely out of my control. > > I will try to resist dropping another rant here. However, this is clearly a pattern. Somehow the unhealthy relationship with delland our VR agencies needs to change. > > Sincerely, > > Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. > University at Buffalo > School of Law, J.D. > anticipated spring 2023 > 716-563-9882 > >> On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Heidi Contreras Ruiz via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> I also have a dell with 16 gigabytes using jaws/NVDA and it literally >> has been crashing 3 or 4 hours when using it. I thought I was going >> crazy because I let a sited family member barro it and it wasn't >> happening to them. So frustrating and I'm not even in law school yet! >> >>>> On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: >>> Every. Single. Person I know who's had this issuehas had it on a Dell. It's >>> so good to know I'm not just crazy. I mean, I might still be crazy, but at >>> least this isn't a manifestation of it. Anyway, I've had the problem for a >>> year. I finally got so sick of rebooting JAWS/NVDA every 30 minutes or so >>> that I switched to a top-of-the-line computer, also from Dell. Same exact >>> problems. IT has replaced and updated everything you can imagine in both >>> machines. Still nothing. Both have 7 gigs of memory available both physical >>> and virtual. Everything has been checked. And worst of all, when I loaned >>> the weaker of the two machines to a sighted family member, it's never once >>> acted up for her. It's 100% a screen-reader issue. There's something about >>> these Dell machines that simply isn't working. Now try telling that to my >>> state's VocRehab people. >>> >>> Sanho >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have to chime in! this past year, my one L year, was peppered with >>>> countless, infuriating, crashes and all other manner of bad behavior on >>>> the part of my brand new, souped up, Dell. The motherboard was replaced. >>>> The hard drive was replaced. And even still it is constantly acting up in >>>> various ways. >>>> >>>> Am I the only one who finds this to be outrageous? All I do is email, PDF >>>> and Word document reading, and Internet searching of various shapes and >>>> sizes. I feel like this is a failure on the part of the people who design >>>> our software. They have a captive audience and they don’t care to make >>>> tools that work right. >>>> >>>> Sorry, not wearing my objective, scholarly legal hat. This truly has been >>>> the plague of my year, other than the actual plague that has beset us. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. >>>> University at Buffalo >>>> School of Law, J.D. >>>> anticipated spring 2023 >>>> 716-563-9882 >>>> >>>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have had to upgrade my work laptop for this reason. Google Chrome >>>>> is a massive memory hog as well. I've found that having too many >>>>> Chrome tabs open and Jaws at the same time can cause a weaker machine >>>>> to crash. >>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/10/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>> I use neither program. However, it could be a memory issue. If you have >>>>>> multiple assistive software running, Word docs, browsers, and email, >>>>>> that >>>>>> can be quite demanding on the system. I have always added more memory to >>>>>> help with the demands put on my work laptop, and I try to buy personal >>>>>> laptops with generous solid state memory for the same reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios >>>>>> via >>>>>> BlindLaw >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:45 PM >>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>>> Cc: Teresita Rios >>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>>>> >>>>>> [EXTERNAL] >>>>>> >>>>>> I often get blue screens and lose some of what I was working on. >>>>>> Sometimes I exit ZoomText and restart it, but just two nights ago I was >>>>>> working on a mini note for a competition and it stopped working three >>>>>> times >>>>>> during the night, and crashed or a blue screen appeared right before I >>>>>> wanted to turn my materials in. Do you think it is my Dell? >>>>>> Is there anything I can do? >>>>>> I take timed final exams and in all of them it just blue screened, and I >>>>>> had >>>>>> to force restart it. >>>>>> I lost half of legislation and regulation. The good thing is that I save >>>>>> as >>>>>> soon as I finish a paragraph so for the others I lost time and not much >>>>>> material. >>>>>> Do you think that i also becaus I have a lot of Word docs opened at the >>>>>> same >>>>>> time? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 3:27 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < >>>>>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Teresita, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you mean by crashing? The more specific, the better. I may >>>>>>> have had similar issues. In my case, it appears to be JAWS and NVDA >>>>>>> being incompatible with the graphics drivers on my Dell laptops. The >>>>>>> more I read, the more JAWS and NVDA lag, until they finally crash and >>>>>>> take the Windows environment with them. The problem happens with two >>>>>>> different machines with the same drivers and operating system, and it >>>>>>> only started happening after a Windows update sometime last year. The >>>>>>> only solution for me has been to restart my screen-reader before it >>>>>>> crashes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warmth, >>>>>>> Sanho >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/10/21, Teresita Rios via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Friends. >>>>>>>> This past year my computer started crashing a lot and acting glitchy. >>>>>>>> finals were horrible. Have any of you had this constant crashing >>>>>>>> problem with ZoomText and Fusion? Who did you contact? Because at >>>>>>>> school they say my computer has the IO and hardware to handle it. so >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> are lost. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail >>>>>>> .com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 >>>>>>> 0gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/heidicruiz%40gmail.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Fri Jun 11 11:32:42 2021 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 06:32:42 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: <20210611.113242.338.20@[192.168.1.100]> https://winaerotweaker.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rob Hudson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? > > Warmly, > Seif > From laura.wolk at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 12:20:38 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well worth it. The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > https://winaerotweaker.com/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >> >> Warmly, >> Seif >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net Fri Jun 11 12:40:03 2021 From: rob_hudson3182 at opopanax.net (Rob Hudson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:40:03 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: <20210611.124003.675.21@[192.168.1.100]> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Wolk To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rob Hudson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, > though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a > great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and > you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive > technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't > like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, > then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase > your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal > government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract > or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in > bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 > scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well > worth it. > > The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely > anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as > we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control > the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or > the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. > > On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > > https://winaerotweaker.com/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Rob Hudson > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > > >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? > >> > >> Warmly, > >> Seif > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > > > From NSingh at cov.com Fri Jun 11 12:52:35 2021 From: NSingh at cov.com (Singh, Nandini) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:52:35 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <20210611.124003.675.21@[192.168.1.100]> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@[192.168.1.100]> Message-ID: Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among other things. In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Rob Hudson Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? [EXTERNAL] Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Wolk To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rob Hudson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, > though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a > great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and > you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive > technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't > like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, > then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase > your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal > government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract > or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in > bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 > scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well > worth it. > > The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely > anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as > we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control > the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or > the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. > > On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > > https://winaerotweaker.com/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Rob Hudson > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > > >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? > >> > >> Warmly, > >> Seif > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g > > mail.com > > > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com From laura.wolk at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 13:39:48 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:39:48 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: Yes the wired connection is a great idea. I did that during the height of the pandemic when it seemed like everyone's internet was suffering. If your laptop no longer has an ethernet port you can purchase an usb to ethernet converter cable. On 6/11/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline > right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it > is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory > itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on > staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do > exactly this, among other things. > > In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired > connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not > expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Rob Hudson > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all > the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right > now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >> worth it. >> >> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >> >> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >> > https://winaerotweaker.com/ >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Rob Hudson >> > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >> > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> > >> >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >> >> >> >> Warmly, >> >> Seif >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> > for >> > BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >> > mail.com >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From sanho817 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 13:44:50 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:44:50 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: All, I do have a machine from VocRehab and a much more powerful machine from my school. Both with JAWS and NVDA, both from Dell. Both also have almost literally all of their physical and virtual memory available. When the computer crashes, no form of memory is anywhere near capacity. I know because I've had someone watch the usage display when it was actively crashing. I will need a non-Dell machine. Unfortunately, Visparo, NV Access, and Microsoft have all been no help in diagnosing the actual problem other than saying that it must be a driver issue. All of the drivers have been updated and upgraded, as well, so we're not sure which. I don't want to get a computer from a different manufacturer and have the same problem occur again. It isn't a Visparo issue--NVDA has the same problem on these machines--but it certainly isn't anything close to what I would call equitable access. Sanho On 6/11/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: > Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline > right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it > is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory > itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on > staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do > exactly this, among other things. > > In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired > connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not > expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Rob Hudson > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all > the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right > now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >> worth it. >> >> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >> >> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >> > https://winaerotweaker.com/ >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Rob Hudson >> > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >> > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> > >> >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >> >> >> >> Warmly, >> >> Seif >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> > for >> > BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >> > mail.com >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > From sanho817 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 13:46:07 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:46:07 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@192.168.1.100> Message-ID: The problem also isn't internet related. The problem happens when airplane mode is activated. On 6/11/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart wrote: > All, > > I do have a machine from VocRehab and a much more powerful machine > from my school. Both with JAWS and NVDA, both from Dell. Both also > have almost literally all of their physical and virtual memory > available. When the computer crashes, no form of memory is anywhere > near capacity. I know because I've had someone watch the usage display > when it was actively crashing. > > I will need a non-Dell machine. Unfortunately, Visparo, NV Access, and > Microsoft have all been no help in diagnosing the actual problem other > than saying that it must be a driver issue. All of the drivers have > been updated and upgraded, as well, so we're not sure which. I don't > want to get a computer from a different manufacturer and have the same > problem occur again. It isn't a Visparo issue--NVDA has the same > problem on these machines--but it certainly isn't anything close to > what I would call equitable access. > > Sanho > > On 6/11/21, Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw wrote: >> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline >> right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, >> it >> is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory >> itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on >> staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to >> do >> exactly this, among other things. >> >> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired >> connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not >> expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other >> things. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers >> all >> the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet >> right >> now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laura Wolk >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >>> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >>> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >>> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >>> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >>> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >>> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >>> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >>> worth it. >>> >>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >>> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >>> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >>> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >>> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>> >>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> > https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> > Cc: Rob Hudson >>> > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>> > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> > >>> >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>> >> >>> >> Warmly, >>> >> Seif >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > BlindLaw mailing list >>> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> > for >>> > BlindLaw: >>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>> > mail.com >>> > >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com >> > From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 13:51:28 2021 From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 09:51:28 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@[192.168.1.100]> Message-ID: <05a301d75ec8$e1525b20$a3f71160$@gmail.com> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 and it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong with no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among other things. In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Rob Hudson Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? [EXTERNAL] Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Wolk To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rob Hudson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, > though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a > great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and > you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive > technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't > like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, > then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase > your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal > government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract > or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in > bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 > scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well > worth it. > > The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely > anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as > we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control > the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or > the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. > > On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > > https://winaerotweaker.com/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Rob Hudson > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > > >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? > >> > >> Warmly, > >> Seif > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g > > mail.com > > > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co m From richlchen at hotmail.com Fri Jun 11 15:08:28 2021 From: richlchen at hotmail.com (Richard Chen) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:08:28 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Practice Management software Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if anyone who owns/runs their own law practice has used practice management software that they have found is accessible. I'm been looking at services like Cleo and Practice Panther but would appreciate feedback on accessibility from anyone that has used any of these products. Thanks From laura.wolk at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 15:14:27 2021 From: laura.wolk at gmail.com (Laura Wolk) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 11:14:27 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <05a301d75ec8$e1525b20$a3f71160$@gmail.com> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@192.168.1.100> <05a301d75ec8$e1525b20$a3f71160$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is getting above my paygrade, but there are programs you can install that will monitor your computer and identify what program is crashing or what program is causing Jaws to crash. My firm did this and it was very helpful. Again, I can't be of any assistance as I didn't do it myself, but it was one way we figured out that many chrome tabs plus jaws = high crash likelihood. On 6/11/21, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 > and > it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong > with > no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its > sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver > update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly > recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini > via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline > right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, > it > is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory > itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on > staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do > exactly this, among other things. > > In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired > connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not > expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Rob Hudson > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all > the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right > now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >> worth it. >> >> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >> >> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >> > https://winaerotweaker.com/ >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >> > To: Blind Law Mailing List >> > Cc: Rob Hudson >> > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >> > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> > >> >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >> >> >> >> Warmly, >> >> Seif >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > BlindLaw mailing list >> > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >> > for >> > BlindLaw: >> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >> > mail.com >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com > From maurakutnyak at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 17:12:09 2021 From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:12:09 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <599E1227-D17E-47BF-8108-AAE763AE0425@gmail.com> I love when this list gets riled up. Everyone has fantastic points. I know the problems are complicated and it would be foolish to myopically blame one entity or another. Still, what I see in the wide spread contracting with Dell is some sort of race to the bottom. Contracts that yield a lot of units and sacrifice quality. At the other end of that is us, the people to whom these services are targeted. there are clearly multiple failures along this supply chain when the intended recipients of these machines are being adversely affected. I’m so glad to hear the recommendations regarding HP and software tweaks. These are lifelines that I should have been reaching for, through this list, a long time ago. Being swept up in the flow of the semester kept me from taking such an obvious practical step. Thanks so much everyone for being so engaged. Sincerely, Maura Kutnyak, M.P.A. University at Buffalo School of Law, J.D. anticipated spring 2023 716-563-9882 > On Jun 11, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw wrote: > > This is getting above my paygrade, but there are programs you can > install that will monitor your computer and identify what program is > crashing or what program is causing Jaws to crash. My firm did this > and it was very helpful. Again, I can't be of any assistance as I > didn't do it myself, but it was one way we figured out that many > chrome tabs plus jaws = high crash likelihood. > >> On 6/11/21, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: >> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 >> and >> it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong >> with >> no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its >> sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver >> update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly >> recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini >> via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Singh, Nandini >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline >> right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, >> it >> is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory >> itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on >> staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do >> exactly this, among other things. >> >> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired >> connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not >> expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all >> the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right >> now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laura Wolk >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >>> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >>> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >>> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >>> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >>> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >>> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >>> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >>> worth it. >>> >>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >>> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >>> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >>> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >>> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>> >>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>>> >>>>> Warmly, >>>>> Seif >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com From nmpbrat at aol.com Sat Jun 12 02:22:03 2021 From: nmpbrat at aol.com (nmpbrat at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 02:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <05a301d75ec8$e1525b20$a3f71160$@gmail.com> References: <0A682A40-D17E-48E3-A614-F9E3F20530E8@gmail.com> <20210611.104232.344.19@192.168.1.100> <20210611.113242.338.20@192.168.1.100> <20210611.124003.675.21@[192.168.1.100]> <05a301d75ec8$e1525b20$a3f71160$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers.  I am a Zoomtext user and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP computers at work.   -----Original Message----- From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 and it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong with no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its sound drivers  cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Singh, Nandini Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among other things. In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Rob Hudson Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? [EXTERNAL] Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Wolk To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rob Hudson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here.  But, > though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a > great reminder of two things.  First, your schools should have, and > you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive > technology to deal with these exact scenarios.  Second, if you don't > like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, > then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase > your own computer.  State agencies have contracts.  The federal > government has contracts.  Your eventual employer will have a contract > or a vetted model of computer that it uses.  It allows them to buy in > bulk or at reduced prices.  The time spent applying for a $1,000 > scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well > worth it. > > The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely > anyway.  Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as > we need them to be.  And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control > the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or > the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. > > On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: > > https://winaerotweaker.com/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah > > To: Blind Law Mailing List > > Cc: Rob Hudson > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > > >> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? > >> > >> Warmly, > >> Seif > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g > > mail.com > > > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co m _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com From cannona at fireantproductions.com Sat Jun 12 13:11:33 2021 From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:11:33 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for work (I use my machine primarily for software development) and I am seeing the same thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very slugish after about 3 or so hours of usage, and if I don't reboot promptly, it will crash with out of memory errors, even though the task manager shows that there is plenty of memory. I ran a ram tester a couple days ago, thinking this was possibly unique to my machine. It's actually nice to know it's not just me with this problem. A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a nack for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he would take a look this week. I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the speakers. I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I can't live with. I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can solve this issue. Aaron -- This message was sent from a mobile device > On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw wrote: > > I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext user and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP computers at work. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 and > it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong with > no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its > sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver > update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly > recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline > right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, it > is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory > itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on > staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do > exactly this, among other things. > > In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired > connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not > expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Rob Hudson > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers all > the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet right > now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >> worth it. >> >> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >> >>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Seif >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>> mail.com >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Mon Jun 14 15:15:31 2021 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 15:15:31 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Fellowship Applications are Live! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 6:31 AM Subject: Fellowship Applications are Live! CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. [Securing equal justice for all] The Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law is excited to announce that we are now accepting applications for the 2022-2023 George N. Lindsay Civil Rights Fellowship, and other fellowship opportunities. These fellowships provide opportunities for recent law school graduates to start their careers working with one of the nation’s leading civil rights organizations, gaining invaluable experience while advancing our racial justice mission in one or more critical civil rights areas. More information about our fellowships program can be found on our website. 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From: Perez, Katherine Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:45 AM To: Coelho Center Admin Subject: The Coelho Law Fellowship - APPLICATION The Coelho Law Fellowship Program 2021-2022 ***APPLICATION*** (Please share widely with students who may be interested.) Deadline: Friday, July 2nd What is the Coelho Law Fellowship Program? The 2021-2022 Fellowship will consist of (1) a two-week long intensive summer Disability Rights Law course, (2) an academic-year long webinar course, (3) student projects on a disability topic of their interest, (4) mentorship and academic counseling, and (5) a $1,000 stipend. Summer Intensive Disability Right Law Course Dates: * Monday, July 19 - Friday, July 23, 2021 (4-6pm PT; 6-8pm CT; 7-9pm ET) * Monday, July 26 - Friday, July 30, 2021 (4-6pm PT; 6-8pm CT; 7-9pm ET) (*Applicants must affirm that if chosen they will make an honest effort to attend all fellowship programming or make plans to review recordings.) Eligibility to Apply: The Coelho Center Law Fellowship Program is designed to serve students with disabilities interested in pursuing law school. As such, students who identify as D/deaf, hard-of-hearing and/or disabled are strongly encouraged to apply. Students must be currently enrolled in a community college, college, or university, or be a recent graduate. Applicants do not need to be certain that they would like to attend law school. Only an interest in the law in required. Our Commitment to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion: The Coelho Center for Disability Law, Policy and Innovation has a strong commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion as a core value. As such, we encourage applicants from a broad range of backgrounds with identities intersecting with disability including race, gender, sexual orientation, and immigration status. Applicants from low income backgrounds and applicants who have been involved in the criminal justice system are also encouraged to apply. 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In-Reply-To: <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> Message-ID: All, Any update on how we might fix the problem with consumer-class Dell computers lagging and crashing with screen-readers? Warmth, Sanho On 6/12/21, Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw wrote: > I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for work (I > use my machine primarily for software development) and I am seeing the same > thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very slugish after about 3 or so > hours of usage, and if I don't reboot promptly, it will crash with out of > memory errors, even though the task manager shows that there is plenty of > memory. I ran a ram tester a couple days ago, thinking this was possibly > unique to my machine. It's actually nice to know it's not just me with this > problem. > > A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a nack > for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he would take a > look this week. > > I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. > > As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio > drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the speakers. > I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I can't live > with. > > I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can solve this > issue. > > Aaron > > -- > This message was sent from a mobile device > > >> On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext user >> and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP computers >> at work. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 >> and >> it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong >> with >> no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its >> sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver >> update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly >> recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini >> via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Singh, Nandini >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline >> right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, >> it >> is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory >> itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on >> staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do >> exactly this, among other things. >> >> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired >> connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not >> expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other >> things. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via >> BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers >> all >> the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet >> right >> now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laura Wolk >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >>> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >>> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >>> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >>> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >>> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >>> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >>> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >>> worth it. >>> >>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >>> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >>> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >>> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >>> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>> >>>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>>> >>>>> Warmly, >>>>> Seif >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>>> mail.com >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > From lmendez716 at gmail.com Wed Jun 16 16:04:10 2021 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (lmendez716 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:04:10 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> Message-ID: <001401d762c9$3edf0230$bc9d0690$@gmail.com> Good morning: Are we certain that the problem is: 1. Solely Limited to Dell computers; 2. If so, whether it impacts only certain models or configurations; 3. That variability in either Windows or Freedom Scientific software, or versions thereof, isn't causing or contributing to the problems; and, 4. Are the problems arising without regard to whether the computer is operating within a network environment or as a single machine? By way of further inquiry, is anyone running an Mac equipped with an Intel Processor running Windows on a Boot Camp partition? If so, are the reported problems occurring on this type of setup as well? Perhaps some input from access technology professionals is warranted as an aspect of developing a strategy to address this issue. I'm certain that I have only scratched the surface of factors to consider so please feel free to chime in as appropriate. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 11:37 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? All, Any update on how we might fix the problem with consumer-class Dell computers lagging and crashing with screen-readers? Warmth, Sanho On 6/12/21, Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw wrote: > I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for > work (I use my machine primarily for software development) and I am > seeing the same thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very slugish > after about 3 or so hours of usage, and if I don't reboot promptly, it > will crash with out of memory errors, even though the task manager > shows that there is plenty of memory. I ran a ram tester a couple days > ago, thinking this was possibly unique to my machine. It's actually > nice to know it's not just me with this problem. > > A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a > nack for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he > would take a look this week. > > I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. > > As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio > drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the speakers. > I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I > can't live with. > > I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can solve > this issue. > > Aaron > > -- > This message was sent from a mobile device > > >> On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext >> user and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP >> computers at work. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >> Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >> Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre >> X360 and it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still >> going strong with no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely >> more sluggish, and its sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after >> each and every sound driver update. When this happens, I have to >> tinker with sound settings. I highly recommend investing in HP or >> Lenovo computers. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, >> Nandini via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Singh, Nandini >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a >> decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and >> peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop and >> add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT >> support should have someone on staff who can work with the hardware. >> I requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among other >> things. >> >> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a >> wired connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. >> Power not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used >> for other things. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >> [EXTERNAL] >> >> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on >> computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might >> be the best bet right now. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Laura Wolk >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Rob Hudson >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >> >>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >>> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand >>> out, then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can >>> purchase your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The >>> federal government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have >>> a contract or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows >>> them to buy in bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying >>> for a $1,000 scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer >>> will be well worth it. >>> >>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >>> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >>> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't >>> control the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome >>> hogs, or the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>> >>>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>> >>>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>>> >>>>> Warmly, >>>>> Seif >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>> for >>>> BlindLaw: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40 >>>> g >>>> mail.com >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.co >> m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40g >> mail.co >> m >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.c >> om _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40firea >> ntproductions.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail > .com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From cannona at fireantproductions.com Wed Jun 16 16:10:07 2021 From: cannona at fireantproductions.com (Aaron Cannon) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:10:07 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> Message-ID: Hi all. For my part, I have still been working through this with my friend. It's tough, because I need to connect with him when it starts acting like it's going to crash, and he needs to be available, and it needs to be soon enough so that the computer doesn't crash before he gets on. Also, while it would be convenient to blame Vespero, it appears to be happening with both NVDA and Jaws. What we've been able to determine so far is that it is definitely a memory leak. The ram usage slowly creeps up, but when looking at the different processes, Windows does not show that any particular process is using a lot of memory. Anyway, we plan to keep digging. For reference, I am using a 2020 XPS 13 with 16GB of ram. I did not experience this issue on my 2016 XPS 13. Will keep everyone posted. Aaron On 6/16/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > All, > > Any update on how we might fix the problem with consumer-class Dell > computers lagging and crashing with screen-readers? > > Warmth, > Sanho > > On 6/12/21, Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw wrote: >> I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for work (I >> use my machine primarily for software development) and I am seeing the >> same >> thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very slugish after about 3 or so >> hours of usage, and if I don't reboot promptly, it will crash with out of >> memory errors, even though the task manager shows that there is plenty of >> memory. I ran a ram tester a couple days ago, thinking this was possibly >> unique to my machine. It's actually nice to know it's not just me with >> this >> problem. >> >> A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a nack >> for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he would take a >> look this week. >> >> I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. >> >> As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio >> drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the >> speakers. >> I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I can't >> live >> with. >> >> I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can solve >> this >> issue. >> >> Aaron >> >> -- >> This message was sent from a mobile device >> >> >>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext user >>> and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP computers >>> at work. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre X360 >>> and >>> it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still going strong >>> with >>> no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely more sluggish, and its >>> sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after each and every sound driver >>> update. When this happens, I have to tinker with sound settings. I highly >>> recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, Nandini >>> via >>> BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Singh, Nandini >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a decline >>> right now. HP currently makes better computers and peripherals. Moreover, >>> it >>> is often possible to open up the laptop and add in more memory. Memory >>> itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT support should have someone on >>> staff who can work with the hardware. I requested my law school's IT to >>> do >>> exactly this, among other things. >>> >>> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired >>> connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power not >>> expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other >>> things. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via >>> BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> [EXTERNAL] >>> >>> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on computers >>> all >>> the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be the best bet >>> right >>> now. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Laura Wolk >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >>>> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >>>> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >>>> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >>>> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a contract >>>> or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them to buy in >>>> bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a $1,000 >>>> scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be well >>>> worth it. >>>> >>>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >>>> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >>>> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't control >>>> the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome hogs, or >>>> the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>>> >>>>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>>> >>>>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>>>> >>>>>> Warmly, >>>>>> Seif >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>>>> mail.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.co >>> m >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fireantproductions.com > From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Wed Jun 16 16:46:41 2021 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:46:41 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Seeks Public Input on Removing Barriers to Voting for People with Disabilities In-Reply-To: <16881482.7810@service.govdelivery.com> References: <16881482.7810@service.govdelivery.com> Message-ID: From: United States Access Board Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 9:03 AM Subject: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Seeks Public Input on Removing Barriers to Voting for People with Disabilities CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. 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If you would like to update your contact information, please submit the following information: SCHOOL OR ORGANIZATION: NAME: TITLE: PHONE: EMAIL: WEBSITE: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 19 17:03:13 2021 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 13:03:13 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] New Here. A Question of Alternative Techniques References: <000301d7652c$fe630e70$fb292b50$.ref@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000301d7652c$fe630e70$fb292b50$@sbcglobal.net> Hi BlindLaw Members: I have been totally blind from birth. Although not a law student, I sometimes read law review articles for fun. Yes, I'm a nerd. Anyway, I have two questions for you - 1. How do/did you handle the huge reading requirements for law school? 2. For trial lawyers - how can one be a good lawyer when they can't see the expressions on the jury's faces? Thank you for your time and experiences. Spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Sat Jun 19 19:02:35 2021 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:02:35 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] New Here. A Question of Alternative Techniques In-Reply-To: <000301d7652c$fe630e70$fb292b50$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000301d7652c$fe630e70$fb292b50$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49D7F9B8-0D02-410F-867C-98110EFDDAC3@icloud.com> Hi Jen, As for your first question regarding the expressions on the jury’s’S , I am not sure that you would need to be concerned about that. What matters more is that you are swaying the jury in the direction you want them to go As for the large reading requirements, I get PDF copies of my books from their publishers. I will open them in edge and read with my screen reader. I hope this helps. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Jen via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi BlindLaw Members: > > I have been totally blind from birth. Although not a law student, I > sometimes read law review articles for fun. Yes, I'm a nerd. > > Anyway, I have two questions for you - > > 1. How do/did you handle the huge reading requirements for law school? > 2. For trial lawyers - how can one be a good lawyer when they can't see the > expressions on the jury's faces? > > Thank you for your time and experiences. > > Spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com From spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 22 03:09:30 2021 From: spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net (Jen) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 23:09:30 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] The Bar Exam and LSAT? References: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$.ref@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$@sbcglobal.net> Hi everyone, Well, the subject line says it all. What was it like to take your respective bar exams and LSAT? What alternative techniques are there to study for these tests? From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Tue Jun 22 05:29:10 2021 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:29:10 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions Regarding Drawing diagrams to solve the Logic Games Section Message-ID: <3979DA74-3973-4026-AC24-94AA2F6F5958@gmail.com> Hello everyone. Hope you guys are doing well. I just have some questions regarding dealing with the Logic games section of the exam, when it comes in drawing the diagrams to solve each specific games. For those who use Excel and Microsoft word to create these diagrams, what sort of techniques you use to organize your data, and write your information down on them and also to find each data accordingly to solve each game? I’m just wondering since I am planning to use MS word to write my elements and clues and Excel to create the diagram. I will really appreciate any suggestions you could provide me. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading! Helga Schreiber Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max From awildheir at gmail.com Tue Jun 22 12:59:32 2021 From: awildheir at gmail.com (Aimee Harwood) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:59:32 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions Regarding Drawing diagrams to solve the Logic Games Section Message-ID: It is my understanding that the Logic Games section is no longer a part of the LSAT. Someone correct me if I am missinformed. Warm regards, Aimee Sent from my iPhone Warm regards, Aimee Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:30 AM, Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello everyone. Hope you guys are doing well. I just have some questions regarding dealing with the Logic games section of the exam, when it comes in drawing the diagrams to solve each specific games. For those who use Excel and Microsoft word to create these diagrams, what sort of techniques you use to organize your data, and write your information down on them and also to find each data accordingly to solve each game? I’m just wondering since I am planning to use MS word to write my elements and clues and Excel to create the diagram. I will really appreciate any suggestions you could provide me. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading! > Helga Schreiber > Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com > Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Tue Jun 22 13:16:26 2021 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 09:16:26 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] The Bar Exam and LSAT? In-Reply-To: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9F832D9D-07F8-42A1-A7C1-0476349A6C39@icloud.com> Hi Jen, I found the LSAT to be rather difficult. I got prep books of a book share, and I had best results with the power score bible trilogy. LSAC also partners with con academy and has free prep stuff on their website. I cannot speak for the bar exam yet. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:06 PM, Jen via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Well, the subject line says it all. What was it like to take your respective > bar exams and LSAT? What alternative techniques are there to study for these > tests? > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Tue Jun 22 15:18:39 2021 From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:18:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions Regarding Drawing diagrams to solve the Logic Games Section In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09C58C2F-BF16-4ADD-BD0C-618A55677BA9@gmail.com> Hi Aimee. Hope you are well. In regards of the Logic games, they are still part of the LsAT. What I understand is that LSAC will decide to change it by 2023 or 2024 year. During that time they wil decide to change the Logic games section or not. Thanks for reading! Helga Schreiber Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max > On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw wrote: > > It is my understanding that the Logic Games section is no longer a part of the LSAT. Someone correct me if I am missinformed. > > Warm regards, > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Warm regards, > Aimee > > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:30 AM, Helga Schreiber via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Hello everyone. Hope you guys are doing well. I just have some questions regarding dealing with the Logic games section of the exam, when it comes in drawing the diagrams to solve each specific games. For those who use Excel and Microsoft word to create these diagrams, what sort of techniques you use to organize your data, and write your information down on them and also to find each data accordingly to solve each game? I’m just wondering since I am planning to use MS word to write my elements and clues and Excel to create the diagram. I will really appreciate any suggestions you could provide me. I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading! >> Helga Schreiber >> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com >> Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/awildheir%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com From al.elia at aol.com Tue Jun 22 15:20:34 2021 From: al.elia at aol.com (ALBERT ELIA) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:20:34 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] The Bar Exam and LSAT? In-Reply-To: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$.ref@sbcglobal.net> <000001d76714$0570bbc0$10523340$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi Jen – are you planning to apply to law school and become a practicing attorney, or are you just doing research? There are practice LSAT exams and prep materials on bookshare.org. The bar exam prep companies provide accommodations (digital materials, etc). I took the LSAT with a human reader/scribe, and it was not ideal. I took the MD/MA bar exams using my computer and a screenreader, and a human scribe just for noting my answers, and that was a great improvement. Many people have different studying/learning/test-taking techniques that they employ for these tests, so your and others’ mileage may vary. For example, I found the logic games to be the easiest part of the test, and I took them orally with no scratch material. Others have sued LSAC claiming that blind people can’t do logic games. Most are somewhere in between. On 21 Jun 2021, at 20:09, Jen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Well, the subject line says it all. What was it like to take your > respective > bar exams and LSAT? What alternative techniques are there to study for > these > tests? From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Thu Jun 24 13:20:21 2021 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:20:21 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000201d768fb$b14ea400$13ebec00$@labarrelaw.com> FYI From: DOJlawjobs (OARM) Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:35 AM To: Undisclosed recipients: Subject: Attorney and Legal Internship Vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice Good morning, Below is a list of current attorney and legal internship vacancies at the U.S. Department of Justice. 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If you would like to update your contact information, please submit the following information: SCHOOL OR ORGANIZATION: NAME: TITLE: PHONE: EMAIL: WEBSITE: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 88 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Fri Jun 25 02:51:12 2021 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:51:12 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] NABL Annual Meeting Message-ID: <007801d7696c$f5eccbc0$e1c66340$@labarrelaw.com> Hey Folks, this will be the start of several announcements about our NABL Annual Meeting taking place as part of the NFB National Convention which is being held, of course, entirely on the Zoom Platform. Specifically, our meeting is on Thursday, July 8th at 1:00 PM Eastern. The Zoom info is in the Convention agenda already located on the NFB's website. www.nfb.org/convention If you haven't registered for the Convention, you still can; it's free and makes you eligible for door prizes. We will be publishing the agenda in a couple of days and opening registration for our meeting on our website as well. However, here are a few highlights: 1. We will hear from Trish Refo, President of the American Bar Association. 2. Leaders from the ABA's Practice Forward Group will present the results of a survey of over 4000 lawyers about the effects of the Pandemic and what the future of legal practice holds. 3. The Law School Admissions Council will make a presentation. 4. We will conduct a NFB Legal Lightning round with several NFB lawyers litigating our cases presenting the latest updates and we will discuss our legal program generally. The way the meeting will work is that we will hold our meeting between 1:00 and 4:00 ET and then have a social hour between 4:00 and 5:00. Thank you for your attention to this message. Stay tuned for more. Best, Scott From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 13:13:56 2021 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 18:43:56 +0530 Subject: [blindLaw] Supreme Court E-Committee Takes Steps To Improve Access To Justice For Disabled Message-ID: <37D8EEC5-3298-4DD0-99E5-63A775373BDB@gmail.com> https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/supreme-court-e-committee-takes-steps-to-improve-access-to-justice-for-disabled-176340 Sent from my iPhone From joshl at loevy.com Mon Jun 28 21:18:19 2021 From: joshl at loevy.com (Josh Loevy) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 16:18:19 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Bar prep question Message-ID: <5f81e7cc3a51a9729ab7270a6ce86143@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, Because of an inspiring piece of bureaucratic technicality, Illinois is requiring me to sit for the bar exam rather than permitting me to be admitted on motion. It has been 8 years since I last took the bar, so I’m out of touch with the latest developments in the bar prep world. Is there a consensus on which of the services has the most accessible materials and study aids? Thanks, Josh From morgaynemulkern at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 21:52:21 2021 From: morgaynemulkern at gmail.com (Morgan Mulkernm) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 17:52:21 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Bar prep question In-Reply-To: <5f81e7cc3a51a9729ab7270a6ce86143@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f81e7cc3a51a9729ab7270a6ce86143@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: i'm so sorry to hear you're going through that. i'm studying for it right now. Themis is amazing! i'm no computer expert, and picked it up very quickly with Jaws lol. also,, if they are still doing a remote exam, there, exam soft is not very accessible. I was able to get an accommodation so I don't have to use that. that's just a sidenote. feel free to reach out I'm happy to help if I can, otherwise best of luck to you! !! I'm taking my bar exam this July, but I've taken it before. Just need to get these 10 points to pass 7748267428 morgaynemulkern at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hey all, > > Because of an inspiring piece of bureaucratic technicality, Illinois is > requiring me to sit for the bar exam rather than permitting me to be > admitted on motion. It has been 8 years since I last took the bar, so I’m > out of touch with the latest developments in the bar prep world. Is there a > consensus on which of the services has the most accessible materials and > study aids? > > Thanks, > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/morgaynemulkern%40gmail.com From al.elia at aol.com Tue Jun 29 14:48:41 2021 From: al.elia at aol.com (ALBERT ELIA) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 07:48:41 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Bar prep question In-Reply-To: References: <5f81e7cc3a51a9729ab7270a6ce86143@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <849C0526-DE39-4C5C-9515-EEE560B37378@aol.com> I second both the nod to Themis and the note regarding ExamSoft. I used Themis back in 2014, and while the online portal was not accessible at that time, they provided auxiliary support services (emailing the coaches directly etc) so I could get the same out of the prep as others. That helped me immeasurably, since I had to sit for MA and MD simultaneously. On 28 Jun 2021, at 14:52, Morgan Mulkernm wrote: > i'm so sorry to hear you're going through that. i'm studying for it > right now. Themis is amazing! i'm no computer expert, and picked it > up very quickly with Jaws lol. > also,, if they are still doing a remote exam, there, exam soft is not > very accessible. I was able to get an accommodation so I don't have to > use that. that's just a sidenote. > feel free to reach out I'm happy to help if I can, otherwise best of > luck to you! !! > I'm taking my bar exam this July, but I've taken it before. Just need > to get these 10 points to pass > 7748267428 > morgaynemulkern at gmail.com > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw >> wrote: >> >> Hey all, >> >> Because of an inspiring piece of bureaucratic technicality, Illinois >> is >> requiring me to sit for the bar exam rather than permitting me to be >> admitted on motion. It has been 8 years since I last took the bar, >> so I’m >> out of touch with the latest developments in the bar prep world. Is >> there a >> consensus on which of the services has the most accessible materials >> and >> study aids? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Josh >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/morgaynemulkern%40gmail.com From rene0373 at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 16:24:36 2021 From: rene0373 at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rene) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 09:24:36 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] RE bar exam prep question Message-ID: <99653B9D-6914-46CE-B3FC-FF3DD3133BF9@gmail.com> Try BARMAX for the UBE, Josh, if they offer it for Illinois. You can do it on your iPhone. Using it, I passed the UBE on the first try more than 30 years out of law school. To rephrase an old lawyer saw, don’t let the bar exam get you down. Elizabeth M René Attorney at Law WSBA #10710 KCBA #21824 rene0373 at gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 20:28:38 2021 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (lmendez716 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 16:28:38 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> Message-ID: <367601d76d25$589f9570$09dec050$@gmail.com> Good afternoon: Just another wild thought/question. Does the presence or absence of a commercial antimalware program, other than Windows Defender, seem to make a difference in the behavior of JAWS or NVDA on a Dell machine? I have experienced serious performance degradation whenever I have tried to use commercial antivirus software with Windows based screen readers, hence my question. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 12:10 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Aaron Cannon Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? Hi all. For my part, I have still been working through this with my friend. It's tough, because I need to connect with him when it starts acting like it's going to crash, and he needs to be available, and it needs to be soon enough so that the computer doesn't crash before he gets on. Also, while it would be convenient to blame Vespero, it appears to be happening with both NVDA and Jaws. What we've been able to determine so far is that it is definitely a memory leak. The ram usage slowly creeps up, but when looking at the different processes, Windows does not show that any particular process is using a lot of memory. Anyway, we plan to keep digging. For reference, I am using a 2020 XPS 13 with 16GB of ram. I did not experience this issue on my 2016 XPS 13. Will keep everyone posted. Aaron On 6/16/21, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > All, > > Any update on how we might fix the problem with consumer-class Dell > computers lagging and crashing with screen-readers? > > Warmth, > Sanho > > On 6/12/21, Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw wrote: >> I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for >> work (I use my machine primarily for software development) and I am >> seeing the same thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very >> slugish after about 3 or so hours of usage, and if I don't reboot >> promptly, it will crash with out of memory errors, even though the >> task manager shows that there is plenty of memory. I ran a ram tester >> a couple days ago, thinking this was possibly unique to my machine. >> It's actually nice to know it's not just me with this problem. >> >> A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a >> nack for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he >> would take a look this week. >> >> I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. >> >> As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio >> drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the >> speakers. >> I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I >> can't live with. >> >> I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can >> solve this issue. >> >> Aaron >> >> -- >> This message was sent from a mobile device >> >> >>> On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext >>> user and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP >>> computers at work. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw >>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' >>> Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com >>> Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre >>> X360 and it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still >>> going strong with no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely >>> more sluggish, and its sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after >>> each and every sound driver update. When this happens, I have to >>> tinker with sound settings. I highly recommend investing in HP or >>> Lenovo computers. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, >>> Nandini via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Singh, Nandini >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a >>> decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and >>> peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop >>> and add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and >>> IT support should have someone on staff who can work with the >>> hardware. I requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among >>> other things. >>> >>> In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a >>> wired connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. >>> Power not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used >>> for other things. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson >>> via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM >>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>> [EXTERNAL] >>> >>> Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on >>> computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might >>> be the best bet right now. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Laura Wolk >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>>> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >>>> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >>>> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >>>> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >>>> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you >>>> don't like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they >>>> hand out, then find another way to get a scholarship so that you >>>> can purchase your own computer. State agencies have contracts. >>>> The federal government has contracts. Your eventual employer will >>>> have a contract or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It >>>> allows them to buy in bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent >>>> applying for a $1,000 scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end >>>> computer will be well worth it. >>>> >>>> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, >>>> completely anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as >>>> powerful as we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, >>>> Vispero can't control the bloated nature of windows, or the >>>> resources that Chrome hogs, or the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >>>> >>>>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>>>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>>>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>>>> >>>>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>>>> >>>>>> Warmly, >>>>>> Seif >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> BlindLaw mailing list >>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>>>> for >>>>> BlindLaw: >>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%4 >>>>> 0g >>>>> mail.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.c >>> om >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40 >>> gmail.co >>> m >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol. >>> com _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40fire >>> antproductions.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmai >> l.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40firean > tproductions.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From lmendez716 at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 20:34:47 2021 From: lmendez716 at gmail.com (lmendez716 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 16:34:47 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? In-Reply-To: <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> References: <1873138990.4536578.1623464523745@mail.yahoo.com> <22EF4CAE-F0F9-4FCC-9094-FFB83016963D@fireantproductions.com> Message-ID: <367701d76d26$33d3c3a0$9b7b4ae0$@gmail.com> Good afternoon: My experience is that Dell machines will run very hot unless you make certain that there is a fair amount of room around and underneath them. For the record, in my experience the best Windows machine for a screen reader I ever owned was an Intel based MacBook Pro running Windows in boot camp mode. Luis -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Aaron Cannon via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 9:12 AM To: nmpbrat at aol.com; Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Aaron Cannon Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? I don't mean to pile on to this thread, but I also have a Dell for work (I use my machine primarily for software development) and I am seeing the same thing as the rest of you. My machine gets very slugish after about 3 or so hours of usage, and if I don't reboot promptly, it will crash with out of memory errors, even though the task manager shows that there is plenty of memory. I ran a ram tester a couple days ago, thinking this was possibly unique to my machine. It's actually nice to know it's not just me with this problem. A good friend of mine, who is a very talented IT professional with a nack for figuring out very complex issues like these, promised he would take a look this week. I'll absolutely let you know if we find anything. As for the sound drivers, I had to completely uninstal all Dell audio drivers to get my sound to sound normal through headphones and the speakers. I still experience the occasional audio choppiness, but nothing I can't live with. I love the small formfactor of my XPS13, and I really hope I can solve this issue. Aaron -- This message was sent from a mobile device > On Jun 11, 2021, at 21:23, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw wrote: > > I would concur with the Lenovo and HP computers. I am a Zoomtext user and have had great success with Lenovo computers at home and HP computers at work. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw > To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' > Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2021 9:51 am > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > Agree RE the quality of Dell computers lately. I have an HP Spectre > X360 and it is wonderful! I've had it for five years and it's still > going strong with no issues. The Dell I have for work is definitely > more sluggish, and its sound drivers cause issues with JAWS after > each and every sound driver update. When this happens, I have to > tinker with sound settings. I highly recommend investing in HP or Lenovo computers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Singh, > Nandini via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:53 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Singh, Nandini > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > Adding that Dell products and the company have been on a bit of a > decline right now. HP currently makes better computers and > peripherals. Moreover, it is often possible to open up the laptop and > add in more memory. Memory itself is relatively inexpensive, and IT > support should have someone on staff who can work with the hardware. I > requested my law school's IT to do exactly this, among other things. > > In addition to upgrading internet, you may also consider using a wired > connection when feasible, like completing assignments at home. Power > not expended on maintaining a wireless connection can be used for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rob Hudson > via BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:40 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Rob Hudson > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > > [EXTERNAL] > > Agree with this. Plus, craigslist and ebay have good deals on > computers all the time. With the supply chain shortages, this might be > the best bet right now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laura Wolk > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Rob Hudson > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:20:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? > >> So, I recognize I might be opening up a can of worms here. But, >> though I do have sympathy with those on this thread, I think it's a >> great reminder of two things. First, your schools should have, and >> you should be asking for, a computer outfitted with assistive >> technology to deal with these exact scenarios. Second, if you don't >> like the relationship with voc rehab and the computers they hand out, >> then find another way to get a scholarship so that you can purchase >> your own computer. State agencies have contracts. The federal >> government has contracts. Your eventual employer will have a >> contract or a vetted model of computer that it uses. It allows them >> to buy in bulk or at reduced prices. The time spent applying for a >> $1,000 scholarship so that you can buy a higher-end computer will be >> well worth it. >> >> The other issue is that this cannot be blamed on Vispero, completely >> anyway. Screenreaders have to be huge in order to be as powerful as >> we need them to be. And as Rob has pointed out, Vispero can't >> control the bloated nature of windows, or the resources that Chrome >> hogs, or the fact that Microsoft develops subpar, inaccessible products. >> >>> On 6/11/21, Rob Hudson via BlindLaw wrote: >>> https://winaerotweaker.com/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Rob Hudson >>> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:02:20 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Do any of you use ZoomText or fusion? >>> >>>> Can you please suggest a link for Winaero? >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Seif >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laura.wolk%40g >>> mail.com >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nsingh%40cov.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gm > ail.co > m > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nmpbrat%40aol.co > m _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cannona%40firean > tproductions.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/lmendez716%40gmail.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 20:58:53 2021 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 15:58:53 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] Screen-readers and Dell Machines Message-ID: Luis and others, Just changing the subject line so the powers that be don't need to grumble at us. No, anti-virus programs don't make a difference, and both of my laptops have plenty of space when the problem happens. I actually did a clean install of Windows from a USB this weekend and the problem disappeared... right up to the point Windows Update reloaded the various security patches and driver updates it onboards automatically. Rob mentioned loading on Windows 10 LTSC, the stripped-down operating system without bloatware, etc. Unfortunately, Windows Enterprise will only sell LTSC licenses to authorized businesses and only in packages of 5 product keys. The upshot is that private individuals aren't usually granted licenses, and when they are, they're about $400. At this point I'm considering buying something from a different manufacturer. I'm just afraid of spending many hundreds of dollars just to have the same problem present itself on another machine. Sanho From seifs at umich.edu Tue Jun 29 23:28:16 2021 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:28:16 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Bar prep question In-Reply-To: <849C0526-DE39-4C5C-9515-EEE560B37378@aol.com> References: <5f81e7cc3a51a9729ab7270a6ce86143@mail.gmail.com> <849C0526-DE39-4C5C-9515-EEE560B37378@aol.com> Message-ID: I also prefer Barbri. I was able to have them give me mp4 files and word documents of all the material. I could have studied entirely from my computer without going online for a lot of it. Happy to chat in virtual person. Warmly, Seif On 6/29/21, ALBERT ELIA via BlindLaw wrote: > I second both the nod to Themis and the note regarding ExamSoft. I used > Themis back in 2014, and while the online portal was not accessible at > that time, they provided auxiliary support services (emailing the > coaches directly etc) so I could get the same out of the prep as others. > That helped me immeasurably, since I had to sit for MA and MD > simultaneously. > > On 28 Jun 2021, at 14:52, Morgan Mulkernm wrote: > >> i'm so sorry to hear you're going through that. i'm studying for it >> right now. Themis is amazing! i'm no computer expert, and picked it >> up very quickly with Jaws lol. >> also,, if they are still doing a remote exam, there, exam soft is not >> very accessible. I was able to get an accommodation so I don't have to >> use that. that's just a sidenote. >> feel free to reach out I'm happy to help if I can, otherwise best of >> luck to you! !! >> I'm taking my bar exam this July, but I've taken it before. Just need >> to get these 10 points to pass >> 7748267428 >> morgaynemulkern at gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Because of an inspiring piece of bureaucratic technicality, Illinois >>> is >>> requiring me to sit for the bar exam rather than permitting me to be >>> admitted on motion. It has been 8 years since I last took the bar, >>> so I’m >>> out of touch with the latest developments in the bar prep world. Is >>> there a >>> consensus on which of the services has the most accessible materials >>> and >>> study aids? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Josh >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/morgaynemulkern%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/seifs%40umich.edu > -- Seif Saqallah (Mr.) University of Michigan Juris Doctor/ Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Graduate | 2020 International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu The information in this transmittal (including attachments, if any) is confidential and may contain privileged information protected from disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal, including attachments. Receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Wed Jun 30 13:28:22 2021 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:28:22 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Screen-readers and Dell Machines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all, I have been following this thread for a while. I also have a Dell machine, and I have definitely had apps crash while I am using them and I have also seen an out of memory error box pop up Now that I know others are experiencing this problem, I have done a little digging. I read on a form for NVDA users that this memory leak is caused by dels real tech audio drivers. Essentially, Dell has tweaked the drivers in such a way that it causes a memory leak when NVDA or jaws are running. Given that Dell is a popular brand of computers, it might be wise for the NFB to reach out to Dell regarding this issue. Lauren Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > > Luis and others, > > Just changing the subject line so the powers that be don't need to > grumble at us. > > No, anti-virus programs don't make a difference, and both of my > laptops have plenty of space when the problem happens. I actually did > a clean install of Windows from a USB this weekend and the problem > disappeared... right up to the point Windows Update reloaded the > various security patches and driver updates it onboards automatically. > > Rob mentioned loading on Windows 10 LTSC, the stripped-down operating > system without bloatware, etc. Unfortunately, Windows Enterprise will > only sell LTSC licenses to authorized businesses and only in packages > of 5 product keys. The upshot is that private individuals aren't > usually granted licenses, and when they are, they're about $400. > > At this point I'm considering buying something from a different > manufacturer. I'm just afraid of spending many hundreds of dollars > just to have the same problem present itself on another machine. > > Sanho > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com From teresitarios22 at gmail.com Wed Jun 30 14:24:39 2021 From: teresitarios22 at gmail.com (Teresita Rios) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:24:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Screen-readers and Dell Machines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lauren I like your idea of writing a letter. Perhaps all of us who are having serious issues with Dell computers can write a draft, then we can approach NFB and ask any other affected individuals to join. I think NFB would be more inclined to send the letter if we help. I am usually busy during the week, but I am pretty free on the weekends. Having a job is easier than school. lol. To start, if anyone is interested email me directly so we do not bombard the mailing list with suggestions and edits. Thanks Teresita Rios On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:31 AM Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been following this thread for a while. I also have a Dell machine, > and I have definitely had apps crash while I am using them and I have also > seen an out of memory error box pop up Now that I know others are > experiencing this problem, I have done a little digging. I read on a form > for NVDA users that this memory leak is caused by dels real tech audio > drivers. Essentially, Dell has tweaked the drivers in such a way that it > causes a memory leak when NVDA or jaws are running. Given that Dell is a > popular brand of computers, it might be wise for the NFB to reach out to > Dell regarding this issue. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Luis and others, > > > > Just changing the subject line so the powers that be don't need to > > grumble at us. > > > > No, anti-virus programs don't make a difference, and both of my > > laptops have plenty of space when the problem happens. I actually did > > a clean install of Windows from a USB this weekend and the problem > > disappeared... right up to the point Windows Update reloaded the > > various security patches and driver updates it onboards automatically. > > > > Rob mentioned loading on Windows 10 LTSC, the stripped-down operating > > system without bloatware, etc. Unfortunately, Windows Enterprise will > > only sell LTSC licenses to authorized businesses and only in packages > > of 5 product keys. The upshot is that private individuals aren't > > usually granted licenses, and when they are, they're about $400. > > > > At this point I'm considering buying something from a different > > manufacturer. I'm just afraid of spending many hundreds of dollars > > just to have the same problem present itself on another machine. > > > > Sanho > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%40gmail.com > From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jun 30 16:23:23 2021 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:23:23 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Screen-readers and Dell Machines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001001d76dcc$3fcceeb0$bf66cc10$@labarrelaw.com> Hey folks, I have asked our technology staff to look at this issue, and then we can consider writing a letter and otherwise reaching out to Dell. This won't get checked out until after Convention as I hope you understand, but I wanted to let you know that we, the NFB and our NABL, are more than willing to investigate this and act accordingly. Thanks, Scott -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Teresita Rios via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:25 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Teresita Rios Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Screen-readers and Dell Machines Lauren I like your idea of writing a letter. Perhaps all of us who are having serious issues with Dell computers can write a draft, then we can approach NFB and ask any other affected individuals to join. I think NFB would be more inclined to send the letter if we help. I am usually busy during the week, but I am pretty free on the weekends. Having a job is easier than school. lol. To start, if anyone is interested email me directly so we do not bombard the mailing list with suggestions and edits. Thanks Teresita Rios On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:31 AM Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been following this thread for a while. I also have a Dell > machine, and I have definitely had apps crash while I am using them and I have also > seen an out of memory error box pop up Now that I know others are > experiencing this problem, I have done a little digging. I read on a > form for NVDA users that this memory leak is caused by dels real tech > audio drivers. Essentially, Dell has tweaked the drivers in such a > way that it causes a memory leak when NVDA or jaws are running. Given > that Dell is a popular brand of computers, it might be wise for the > NFB to reach out to Dell regarding this issue. > Lauren > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Luis and others, > > > > Just changing the subject line so the powers that be don't need to > > grumble at us. > > > > No, anti-virus programs don't make a difference, and both of my > > laptops have plenty of space when the problem happens. I actually > > did a clean install of Windows from a USB this weekend and the > > problem disappeared... right up to the point Windows Update reloaded > > the various security patches and driver updates it onboards automatically. > > > > Rob mentioned loading on Windows 10 LTSC, the stripped-down > > operating system without bloatware, etc. Unfortunately, Windows > > Enterprise will only sell LTSC licenses to authorized businesses and > > only in packages of 5 product keys. The upshot is that private > > individuals aren't usually granted licenses, and when they are, they're about $400. > > > > At this point I'm considering buying something from a different > > manufacturer. I'm just afraid of spending many hundreds of dollars > > just to have the same problem present itself on another machine. > > > > Sanho > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%4 > 0icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/teresitarios22%4 > 0gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/slabarre%40labarrelaw.com From slabarre at labarrelaw.com Wed Jun 30 18:49:56 2021 From: slabarre at labarrelaw.com (Scott C. LaBarre) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 12:49:56 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Agenda for Our 2021 Annual Meeting Message-ID: <000601d76de0$b8dd4610$2a97d230$@labarrelaw.com> AGENDA NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND LAWYERS 2021 ANNUAL MEETING ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Thursday, July 8, 2021 Anywhere and Everywhere Zoom Meeting ID: 935 8618 0919 Note: All times are Eastern Daylight. 1:00 PM WELCOME AND MEETING LOGISTICS Scott C. LaBarre, President, NABL, Centennial, CO 1:05 PM THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION: WHAT THE ORGANIZED BAR IS DOING FOR YOU Patricia Lee Refo, President, American Bar Association, Phoenix, AZ 1:30 PM AN UPDATE ON IMPLEMENTING THE MARRAKESH TREATY: A PRESENTATION FROM WIPO Michelle Woods, Director, Copyright Law Division, WIPO, Geneva, Switzerland; Monica Halil, Head, Accessible Books Consortium, WIPO, Geneva Switzerland 2:00 PM NFB LEGAL PROGRAM LIGHTNING ROUNDS: A BRIEF YET THOROUGH OVERVIEW OF NFB'S LEGAL ADVOCACY Scott C. LaBarre, General Counsel, NFB, Centennial, CO; Valerie Yingling, Legal Program Coordinator, NFB, Baltimore, MD; Timothy R. Elder, Founder, TRE Legal, Freemont, CA; Albert Elia, TRE Legal, Seattle, WA; Eve L. Hill, Sharon Krevor Weisbaum, Joseph B. Espo, Jessie Weber, Greg Care, Partners, Brown, Goldstein and Levy, Baltimore, MD 3:15 PM AN UPDATE FROM THE LAW SCHOOL ADMISSIONS COUNCIL Leanne Shank, Senior Vice President for Legal and Corporate Affairs, General Counsel, and Corporate Secretary, LSAC, Newtown, PA; Angela Winfield, Chief Diversity Officer, LSAC, Newtown, PA 3:30 PM EXPLORING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE PRACTICE OF LAW Timothy R. Elder, Second Vice President, NABL, Freemont, CA 3:45 PM PRACTICE FORWARD: A REPORT FROM THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION ON THE FUTURE OF LAW PRACTICE DURING AND AFTER THE PANDEMIC Laura Farber, Co-Chair, ABA Practice Forward Coordinating Group, Pasadena, CA; William R. Bay, Co-Chair, ABA Practice Forward Coordinating Group, St. Louis, MO 4:15 PM NABL VIRTUAL RECEPTION AND SOCIAL HOUR Even though we can't be together in person, let's gather virtually and share some fellowship. Sorry no bar or hors d'oeuvres will be provided by NABL this year, but you can bring your own. 5:00 PM Adjourn From davant1958 at gmail.com Wed Jun 30 20:52:04 2021 From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:52:04 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Senior Attorney Job Announcement In-Reply-To: <548184a89cd99836da15f4848.ab91b6a2b6.20210630204026.114d777263.3cbf3d99@mail61.sea91.rsgsv.net> References: <548184a89cd99836da15f4848.ab91b6a2b6.20210630204026.114d777263.3cbf3d99@mail61.sea91.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: <062001d76df1$c8bfadf0$5a3f09d0$@gmail.com> FYI. Denise Avant, ESQ 1st Vice President National Federation of the Blind of Illinois For more information about NFBI, Go to www.nfbofillinois.org From: ABA Center on Children and the Law Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 3:41 PM To: Davant1958 at gmail.com Subject: Senior Attorney Job Announcement View this email in your browser Senior Attorney Job Opportunity at the Center The Center on Children and the Law is seeking a full-time Senior Attorney to work with our Court Projects team. The Senior Attorney will engage in legal system reform efforts with child welfare stakeholders throughout the country, including Court Improvement Projects (CIPs), agencies, judges, attorneys, federal and state partners, and tribes. The Senior Attorney will work primarily on the Capacity Building Center for Courts, a federally funded grant program to support CIPs in designing, developing, and evaluating court reform efforts. 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