[blindLaw] ABA CLE Verification Codes

tim at timeldermusic.com tim at timeldermusic.com
Mon Jan 31 21:20:02 UTC 2022


Agreed.  My concern is that some states are requiring the codes as a condition of approval, in which case they ought to also require audio/web text alternates as part of the approval standard.  And certainly large providers like ABA should be doing this in an automatic way.  Does anyone who understands the CLE approval process know what ABA is doing or why the codes seem to be applicable to certain states?




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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] ABA CLE Verification Codes

I had a similar experience when taking the required professionalism course to be admitted to the DC bar. I was told at that time that the codes were imbeded into the production. I received a certificate after sending a brief summary of the covered material to my contact with the DC Bar. Part of my frustration with this process stemmed from the fact that it wasn't immediately obvious that the codes would be imbeded in this way, and the process for how to get an accommodation was not obvious. My understanding was that the DC Bar was going to do some work on this process, but I don't know if that ever actually occurred. 

All of this to say that these codes aren't limited to ABA programs. Maybe it is something the division should seek to address. 

Angie 

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> On Jan 31, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Tim Elder via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> What is ABA doing to automate this so that any code displayed via video always has an audio and/or text equivalent in the browser?  I was under the impression that the displayed code was added by the video platform afterward, not part of the actual presenters or original broadcast.  I haven't seen enough of these with codes to know if it is a common practice.
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> To Tim's point about the ABA courses, I did a few of them in 2020 and was not able to access the verification codes. I e-mailed the moderator after the program, told them the situation and was sent the course certificate immediately after I completed the course evaluation. It would be better if they fixed the accessibility issue, but they were completely willing to work with me to get the credit.
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> Tyvm
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>> On Jan 30, 2022, at 12:08 AM, Dennis Clark via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Howard,
>> 
>> Their contact info is as follows:
>> 
>> 
>> 916-550-6253
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.accessmcle.com
>> 
>> Their collection of topics is quite good, and using a screen reader on their website has always gone smoothly.
>> 
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>> Best of luck
>> 
>> Dennis
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>>>> On 1/29/2022 8:58 PM, Howard Adelsberg via BlindLaw wrote:
>>> I would be interested
>>> 
>>> -Howard M. Adelsberg
>>> 
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>>>>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 11:57 PM, Dennis Clark via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> I just finished all 25 of my required hours using a company called Access MCLE. This is the third time I've used them, and they offer several options. The cost was $60, and you can complete them on-line. A 3 digit code is spoken twice during each 1 hour presentation, and you enter this code when the video finishes. I can send you their contact info if you are interested.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis Clark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/29/2022 5:46 PM, Tim Elder via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> U.S. Attorneys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's triennial CLE reporting time for California, which means I'm 
>>>>> scrambling as in years past to complete the substance abuse ethics 
>>>>> CLE unit.  ABA CLE suggests the following about visual 
>>>>> verification codes.  Do these states require these visual verifications in the video content?
>>>>> 
>>>>> DE, LA, IN, NE, NJ, NY, OH, PA, SC, TN, and RI attorneys:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This CLE program contains one or more verification code(s) within the media.
>>>>> To verify your attendance, you must:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.    Write this code down exactly as it appears in the program.
>>>>> 2.    When prompted for the code to earn your certificate, enter the code
>>>>> that appeared in the program.
>>>>> 3.    Click "View Certificate" at any time to access your CLE certificate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If these states are mandating this verification technique, are 
>>>>> they also mandating auditory reading of the code?  If not, does 
>>>>> ABA's CLE center do something about this for their massive library of CLE?
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