From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Tue Aug  1 20:11:47 2023
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 16:11:47 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
In-Reply-To: <403E43C9-9086-4138-A9D9-D1AE0E307555@gmail.com>
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Hi Syed,
I’m sorry you have to go through this. I don’t understand how they could possibly not prepare your accommodations when I am pretty sure all someone has to do is enable a few settings for your specific exam and you timely submitted accommodation requests. I hope you can come to a successful resolution to this. Also, I thought that and CBE approved accommodations? If they do, how can they not be responsible for this?  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help as Pierson is the responsible party. 
> 
> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an incredibly frustrating situation. 
> 
> -Syed 
> 
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From aprevost at sidley.com  Tue Aug  1 20:43:41 2023
From: aprevost at sidley.com (Prevost, Ann Marie)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 20:43:41 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
In-Reply-To: <2D992724-12F1-4709-921C-A60BDF868B52@icloud.com>
References: <403E43C9-9086-4138-A9D9-D1AE0E307555@gmail.com>
 <2D992724-12F1-4709-921C-A60BDF868B52@icloud.com>
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I rarely weigh in on these things but your relationship is not with Pierson. They are a subcontractor. I agree with Lauren. MCBE is responsible.
Don’t they know that there are lawyers looking at this?

ANN MARIE PREVOST
Staff Attorney

SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
+1 212 839 5408
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From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 4:12 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE

Hi Syed, I’m sorry you have to go through this. I don’t understand how they could possibly not prepare your accommodations when I am pretty sure all someone has to do is enable a few settings for your specific exam and you timely submitted


Hi Syed,

I’m sorry you have to go through this. I don’t understand how they could possibly not prepare your accommodations when I am pretty sure all someone has to do is enable a few settings for your specific exam and you timely submitted accommodation requests. I hope you can come to a successful resolution to this. Also, I thought that and CBE approved accommodations? If they do, how can they not be responsible for this?



Sent from my iPhone



> On Jul 31, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help as Pierson is the responsible party.

>

> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an incredibly frustrating situation.

>

> -Syed

>

>

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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Tue Aug  1 20:55:17 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 16:55:17 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
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It's true that liability rests with the NCBE, but remedies for NCBE's inaction are retroactive. I'd prefer a proactive solution if at all possible.  

Sanho 

> On Aug 1, 2023, at 4:45 PM, Prevost, Ann Marie via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I rarely weigh in on these things but your relationship is not with Pierson. They are a subcontractor. I agree with Lauren. MCBE is responsible.
> Don’t they know that there are lawyers looking at this?
> 
> ANN MARIE PREVOST
> Staff Attorney
> 
> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
> +1 212 839 5408
> aprevost at sidley.com<mailto:aprevost at sidley.com>
> 
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 4:12 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
> 
> Hi Syed, I’m sorry you have to go through this. I don’t understand how they could possibly not prepare your accommodations when I am pretty sure all someone has to do is enable a few settings for your specific exam and you timely submitted
> 
> 
> Hi Syed,
> 
> I’m sorry you have to go through this. I don’t understand how they could possibly not prepare your accommodations when I am pretty sure all someone has to do is enable a few settings for your specific exam and you timely submitted accommodation requests. I hope you can come to a successful resolution to this. Also, I thought that and CBE approved accommodations? If they do, how can they not be responsible for this?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Hello,
> 
>> 
> 
>> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help as Pierson is the responsible party.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an incredibly frustrating situation.
> 
>> 
> 
>> -Syed
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
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From timothy.blanchett at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 04:06:12 2023
From: timothy.blanchett at gmail.com (Timothy Blanchett)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 00:06:12 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Need an attorney specializing in ADA and discrimination.
 Also very knowledgeable in first and fourth amendment rights.
Message-ID: <60966AB6-FE90-48C8-AF94-DD1F062AC588@gmail.com>

Hello, I am a blind person in the state of Tennessee. I am working on a current project about the launch and I will need to attain the services of a attorney specializing in ADA compliance discrimination in the hiring processes also first and fourth amendment rights if anyone can point me in the direction of someone that would be licensed in the lower 48 states and able to practice law in all 48 states I would like to talk about retaining their services 

Timothy Blanchett
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From christinebusanelli at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 04:17:37 2023
From: christinebusanelli at gmail.com (Christine Busanelli)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 23:17:37 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
In-Reply-To: <403E43C9-9086-4138-A9D9-D1AE0E307555@gmail.com>
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I am contemplating filing a lawsuit against them. At this time, there are
hundreds of people who are experiencing problems around the country with
the NCBE at this time.


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 3:08 PM Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test
> administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to
> accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for
> accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help as
> Pierson is the responsible party.
>
> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an
> incredibly frustrating situation.
>
> -Syed
>
>
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From al.elia at aol.com  Wed Aug  2 13:28:59 2023
From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 09:28:59 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
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Message-ID: <E5E8F594-1084-4278-BBB4-68370C67D5D8@aol.com>

Syed – are you trying to take it in TX, MA, or elsewhere?

On 31 Jul 2023, at 16:07, Syed Rizvi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help as Pierson is the responsible party.
>
> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an incredibly frustrating situation.
>
> -Syed


From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 15:16:04 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 11:16:04 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Barriers in taking MPRE
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References: <403E43C9-9086-4138-A9D9-D1AE0E307555@gmail.com>
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All,

Writing with Syed's permission. He rescheduled the exam for November
because it turned out that due to an error on their parts, he was
never actually registered for the August administration. They offered
for him to take the August exam with some of his accommodations in
place, but not all, and the risk for what that would mean for his bar
accommodations down the road was too great. (State bar authorities
typically look to the MPRE to determine which accommodations to
provide on the bar.)

Warmth,
Sanho

On 8/2/23, Al Elia via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Syed – are you trying to take it in TX, MA, or elsewhere?
>
> On 31 Jul 2023, at 16:07, Syed Rizvi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was registered to take my MPRE this August. MCBE outsources their test
>> administration to Pierson. Today, they said they are not prepared to
>> accommodate me for the August exam. I submitted my request for
>> accommodations far in advance. MCBE says they cannot do anything to help
>> as Pierson is the responsible party.
>>
>> Does the NFB have any contacts within MCBE or Pierson? This is an
>> incredibly frustrating situation.
>>
>> -Syed
>
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Thu Aug  3 15:02:05 2023
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 15:02:05 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] =?windows-1252?q?New_Low_in_the_Accessibility_=93Indu?=
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https://www.lflegal.com/2023/07/adrian-roselli-slapp-lawsuit/
New Low in the Accessibility “Industry:” Overlay Company Sues Globally-Recognized Accessibility Expert
Law Office of Lainey Feingold
July 11, 2023

This is an article about a lawsuit filed against a digital accessibility advocate named Adrian Roselli.  Adrian has been outspoken against a type of software called an overlay. This type of overlay promises to make websites accessible for disabled people with just one line of code. Lainey has criticized this software too. Adrian was sued by AudioEye, a company that sells overlays.  It is Lainey’s opinion that this lawsuit is a SLAPP suit. Those initials stand for “Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.”  Adrian has been part of an urgent global dialogue about harms caused by overlays. And about their failure to meet the promise of website accessibility. Lainey urges AudioEye and its lawyers at a big global law firm called Akin to drop this lawsuit.

This is an article about a lawsuit filed by AudioEye, a multi-million dollar accessibility company, against Adrian Roselli, a long-time leader in the global digital accessibility community. Adrian has been a vocal critic, as have I, against one-line of code software that claims to make websites accessible.

AudioEye sells (licenses) an overlay. The company has sued Adrian to stop him from expressing his opinions about the Audio Eye overlay product.

It is an opinion shared and documented by many.

Adrian and I are two of 785 people from around the world who, as of today, have signed the Overlay Statement found in the Overlay Factsheet. Please read the Fact Sheet if you are not familiar with this civil rights issue.

I believe AudioEye has filed a SLAPP suit – what’s that?
In my opinion this lawsuit is a classic example of a type of lawsuit known as a SLAPP suit. The abbreviation stands for “Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.” It is a type of lawsuit that targets activists in a number of fields around the globe. See, eg. SLAPPs in Latin America: Strategic lawsuits against public participation in the context of business and human rights.

Another article is SLAPPed but not silenced: Defending human rights in the face of legal risks. This resource contains a global database of “cases that bear the hallmarks of SLAPPs” around the world.”

Adrian has been a leader in a global effort to educate website owners about the limitations and harms of overlays to disabled people. And a global leader in sharing accessibility information generally. The image at the top of this post is of Adrian leading an accessibility workshop in Serbia.  Elsewhere in this article is an image of Adrian speaking at an accessibility event in Hong Kong.

Instead of embracing Adrian Roselli’s expertise to better its product, Audio Eye, in my opinion, has strategically singled out a top leader in this space for his participation in this urgent conversation.

The sound of the SLAPP abbreviation is appropriate. A SLAPP suit is a slap in the face of the person being sued for participating in a public issue. And it is a threatened slap in the face for everyone else participating publicly in that issue.

Things that do not explain why I’m publicizing this lawsuit
Here are some disclosures:

The lawsuit against Adrian mentions me in two places. Paragraph 27 of the complaint says:
Upon information and belief, this article served as the basis for false, tortious statements made on the website of Lainey Feingold, a disability rights lawyer in California.

A “tort” is a wrongful act or an infringement of a right leading to civil legal liability. In this paragraph AudioEye is saying that an article I wrote about an accessibility settlement with ADP (in which I praise the company and the blind consumers for using Structured Negotiation to resolve the claims after the lawsuit was filed), infringes someone’s rights, presumably AudioEye’s.

It also accuses me of making false statements on this website.

The second reference to me in the lawsuit against Adrian is in Paragraph 37. It is also about my ADP article, in which I link to and quote from the settlement reached between software giant ADP and blind people who couldn’t use certain ADP workplace software. The complaint states that “Contrary to Roselli’s statements (and similar statements by Lainey Feingold), the ADP Settlement does not ban ADP TotalSource, Inc. (“ADP”) from using AudioEye.”

But these insults and veiled threats against my writing (and against me) are not the reason I am writing this article.

Adrian is a friend of mine, someone I met and connected with through the digital accessibility community. It is a connection strengthened by attending, speaking at, and sponsoring the same conferences, concerned with the same issues. I put the word accessibility “industry” in quotes in the title of this article because while accessibility has indeed become an industry, it has long been and still is a community. A community that both Adrian and I are part of.
But our friendship is not why I’m publicizing this lawsuit.

Adrian inspired me to write one of the most popular articles on this website — My 2022 piece titled Hitchhiker’s Guide to Global Accessibility Awareness Day. You can read about Adrian’s role in the first paragraph.
But that’s not why I’m posting this article either.

Why I AM writing this article
Digital accessibility is a civil right. It is the bridge that connects people with disabilities to the technology and content of the digital world. Without accessibility disabled people are excluded. With accessibility the promise of disability inclusion is made possible.

This lawsuit against Adrian Roselli impacts every person who cares about including disabled people in the digital world. It impacts all of us who speak, write, and advocate for digital accessibility that is fair, equitable, and ethical.

The lawsuit has what is known as a “chilling effect”. I have personally experienced it, and I know others who have too. Who will be next? What type of conversation is off limits?

AudioEye is not the only company selling an overlay product that has filed this type of lawsuit against an accessibility advocate. My 2021 article Legal Update: Accessibility Overlay Edition, has a section titled French Overlay Company Sues Advocates for Their Role in the Global Overlay Conversation.

In it I talk about two lawsuits filed by a French company called FACIL’iti that sued two French advocates in the French version of a SLAPP suit called poursuites bâillons” (literally “gagging pursuits”). Those cases continue.

The global effort to “gag” respected advocates must be stopped.

This AudioEye lawsuit that seeks to silence a well respected accessibility advocate also impacts potential customers of overlay companies who deserve accurate information about the product they are considering.

It is my belief that the vast majority of organizations (public, private, and non-profit sector) who are buying overlay products want to do what’s best for their customers with disabilities.  Many overlay companies are well-funded by venture money.  A lot of that money is poured into advertising the products.  Potential buyers deserve information from people like Adrian Roselli.

Most significantly, this type of lawsuit hurts people with disabilities. People harmed by overlay products that can create barriers for some disabled people while failing to deliver accessibility as promised for others. People directly impacted when organizations chose a quick fix short-cut instead of baking disability inclusion into their technologies and content.

It is for these reasons that I’m publicizing this case.

I urge AudioEye, whose business does more than license overlay software, to drop this lawsuit. The AudioEye Board of Directors includes Tony Coelho, a primary author and sponsor of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and a longtime champion of people with disabilities. I urge the Board to reconsider this lawsuit strategy.

AudioEye is represented in this case by Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP (Akin), one of the world’s largest law firms with 900 lawyers in 20 offices around the globe. Its website states that the firm has a culture rooted in collaboration and caring. I also urge this reputable firm to consider the harms caused by this type of litigation that stifles public discourse on a global civil rights issue.

Documents Related to AudioEye’s case against Adrian Roselli
white man (Adrian Roselli) speaking in front of a screen at a web access event in Hong KongYou can read the Complaint in the lawsuit filed against Adrian, and the documents Adrian and his lawyers have filed in court, on his website. They are linked in an article there titled “AudioEye is Suing Me.”

On his site, as of the date I’m publishing this article, the most recent documents are related to the July 6, 2023 Motion to Dismiss the case filed by Adrian’s lawyers. These documents include a 34 page legal analysis that starts with this sentence:

This case is a classic strategic lawsuit against public participation, or “SLAPP.” AudioEye, Inc., a massive corporation, has picked out and sued an individual critic explicitly to chill future speech.

The legal papers filed by Adrian’s lawyers also include statements (officially called affidavits and affirmations) from Adrian and other advocates within and outside the United States. These statements, available here, support Adrian’s stated opinion about AudioEye and push back on the idea of a company filing a lawsuit because they don’t like or agree with that opinion.

I think the statement of well-respected British accessibility expert Léonie Watson, a blind person and Director of the accessibility consultancy TetraLogical reflects a sentiment shared by many of us in the global accessibility community.

First Léonie explains that she “agreed with Adrian that “AudioEye’s overlays do not work as advertised. I hold this opinion having verified many of Mr. Roselli’s findings for myself, knowing that he, like all good investigative researchers, shares his results for scrutiny and validation by other members of the accessibility profession.”

Then she said:

Finally, I want to express my disgust at the very idea of an organisation suing an individual who has pointed out flaws in their product that, had they listened and acted, could have meant their product was much improved. The security industry has matured to the point where researchers that identify vulnerabilities in products and services are awarded bounties, not threatened with legal action. One can therefore only speculate why AudioEye has chosen to sue Mr. Roselli instead of responding positively to the feedback Mr. Roselli offered.
Léonie Watson affidavit in AudioEye vs. Adrian Roselli

I’m an optimist. It’s never too late to change course. I hope AudioEye and its lawyers do and drop this case.



From joshl at loevy.com  Fri Aug  4 17:54:23 2023
From: joshl at loevy.com (joshl at loevy.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:54:23 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] digital voice recorder
Message-ID: <06b901d9c6fc$b5708a10$20519e30$@loevy.com>

Hey All,

I'm in the market for a digital voice recorder that will let me export files
to my hard drive, mostly time entries for later transcription. I'm getting a
lot of mixed signals from what I'm seeing online, does anyone have one they
use in their practice and like?

Thanks,

Josh


From sai at fiatfiendum.org  Sat Aug  5 11:10:16 2023
From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 12:10:16 +0100
Subject: [blindLaw] digital voice recorder
In-Reply-To: <06b901d9c6fc$b5708a10$20519e30$@loevy.com>
References: <06b901d9c6fc$b5708a10$20519e30$@loevy.com>
Message-ID: <CAHs-R5zfrBXk9ZMyGoiE5gYf_wMWaaDHJRhbqsVKK2bEDmfxCA@mail.gmail.com>

Given you're not doing this for unusually high audio quality like radio,
why not just use a smartphone or laptop app?

Most will name it by the timestamp, and in any case the date-created or
date-modified timestamp will be on the file metadata.

In some chat apps, like Signal, you can message yourself, and you can
record audio messages. Those would also have timestamps, though it's not as
easy to transfer the files.

Sincerely,
Sai
President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3)

Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision, typos, and
autocorrect errors.

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:55 Josh Loevy via BlindLaw, <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I'm in the market for a digital voice recorder that will let me export
> files
> to my hard drive, mostly time entries for later transcription. I'm getting
> a
> lot of mixed signals from what I'm seeing online, does anyone have one they
> use in their practice and like?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
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From sai at fiatfiendum.org  Sat Aug  5 11:20:55 2023
From: sai at fiatfiendum.org (Sai)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 12:20:55 +0100
Subject: [blindLaw] Need an attorney specializing in ADA and
 discrimination. Also very knowledgeable in first and fourth amendment
 rights.
In-Reply-To: <60966AB6-FE90-48C8-AF94-DD1F062AC588@gmail.com>
References: <60966AB6-FE90-48C8-AF94-DD1F062AC588@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHs-R5zM9=q07c2NVOP2EB7=N6a18MVBT8ZBFPf0R+sW9rNsZw@mail.gmail.com>

It's extremely unlikely that any single person will be barred in that many
states, because becoming barred is a bit of a pain and has (often yearly)
costs. Almost all lawyers are only barred in 1 to 3 states.

But that is not generally a problem, since a lawyer can be allowed to
practice in a given state ad hoc if needed, and one doesn't need a license
in a given state to give advice about that state's laws.

And ADA is federal law. There are state laws that are similar or broader
(e.g. California is well known for this), which may be relevant, but that
depends on the issue.

So, I suggest you drop that part of your requirements. It's not really how
things work.

It would be easier to refer you to someone if you can succinctly state the
topic you need advice about.

Sincerely,
Sai
President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3)

Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision, typos, and
autocorrect errors.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2023, 05:07 Timothy Blanchett via BlindLaw, <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello, I am a blind person in the state of Tennessee. I am working on a
> current project about the launch and I will need to attain the services of
> a attorney specializing in ADA compliance discrimination in the hiring
> processes also first and fourth amendment rights if anyone can point me in
> the direction of someone that would be licensed in the lower 48 states and
> able to practice law in all 48 states I would like to talk about retaining
> their services
>
> Timothy Blanchett
> (423) 441-0982
> timothy.blanchett at gmail.com
> “Those who know do, those who understand teach…” Aristotle
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From al.elia at aol.com  Sat Aug  5 16:11:42 2023
From: al.elia at aol.com (Al Elia)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2023 12:11:42 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] digital voice recorder
In-Reply-To: <CAHs-R5zfrBXk9ZMyGoiE5gYf_wMWaaDHJRhbqsVKK2bEDmfxCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <06b901d9c6fc$b5708a10$20519e30$@loevy.com>
 <CAHs-R5zfrBXk9ZMyGoiE5gYf_wMWaaDHJRhbqsVKK2bEDmfxCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ACF64369-E763-4802-A6AF-181FA9221D60@aol.com>

I use an old (15+ years) Olympus DS recorder (I think its  the DS51, though it might be the DS 61) that has limited voice guidance. It’s pretty great (includes limited noise reduction, has different modes for recording in different settings, and is about the size of half-a-candy bar, but probably difficult to obtain at this point.

I’ve used my phone as Sai suggests, using an app called ClearRecord Premium, which has built-in noise reduction. However, it’s less reliable than a dedicated device because of notifications/calls/etc, occasional hiccups because the phone thinks it should stop when the phone is locked, etc. All of these things can be addressed by tweaking phone settings, but all of that is a pain in the neck when all you want is to be able to press a button and then never have to worry about whether the recording is happening.

If you can stomach the expense, I’d suggests the new Victor Reader Stream 3. It’s very compact, entirely accessible, and uses standard SD cards and USB c to  make transferring files a breeze. It’s a bit overkill for just a voice recorder, but its accessible features make it the best choice if you can expense it (uses standard mp3 files for recording, allows for bookmarking points of interest in an audio file when listening, etc). It also is a fully-functional reader  that can read DAISY and ePub books, as well as Word DOCX and PDF  files. You can add audio bookmarks to those files as well. That is particularly handy when reviewing long PDFs. Note that the PDF’s have to include accessible text, so must be OCRd if they are scanned.

Best of luck.

On 5 Aug 2023, at 7:10, Sai wrote:

> Given you're not doing this for unusually high audio quality like radio,
> why not just use a smartphone or laptop app?
>
> Most will name it by the timestamp, and in any case the date-created or
> date-modified timestamp will be on the file metadata.
>
> In some chat apps, like Signal, you can message yourself, and you can
> record audio messages. Those would also have timestamps, though it's not as
> easy to transfer the files.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sai
> President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3)
>
> Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision, typos, and
> autocorrect errors.
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:55 Josh Loevy via BlindLaw, <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I'm in the market for a digital voice recorder that will let me export
>> files
>> to my hard drive, mostly time entries for later transcription. I'm getting
>> a
>> lot of mixed signals from what I'm seeing online, does anyone have one they
>> use in their practice and like?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> BlindLaw:
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From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com  Sat Aug  5 20:20:00 2023
From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 20:20:00 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] digital voice recorder
In-Reply-To: <ACF64369-E763-4802-A6AF-181FA9221D60@aol.com>
References: <06b901d9c6fc$b5708a10$20519e30$@loevy.com>
 <CAHs-R5zfrBXk9ZMyGoiE5gYf_wMWaaDHJRhbqsVKK2bEDmfxCA@mail.gmail.com>
 <ACF64369-E763-4802-A6AF-181FA9221D60@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BN8PR12MB3507D45D50154BE889DBD41CC50EA@BN8PR12MB3507.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

The basic Voice Memos app on the iPhone would do the job. There is also an app called "Just Press Record" that eliminates a lot of those problems with interruptions. If you have a computer running Windows 11 you can install Intel Unison on the computer and phone which will allow you to share files. When you make a recording on your phone you then choose share and specify Unison, and the file ends up in your computer's downloads folder. 

Brian
Brian C. Unitt
Certified Specialist in Appellate Law
By the State Bar of California

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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Al Elia via BlindLaw
Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2023 9:12 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Al Elia <al.elia at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] digital voice recorder

I use an old (15+ years) Olympus DS recorder (I think its  the DS51, though it might be the DS 61) that has limited voice guidance. It’s pretty great (includes limited noise reduction, has different modes for recording in different settings, and is about the size of half-a-candy bar, but probably difficult to obtain at this point.

I’ve used my phone as Sai suggests, using an app called ClearRecord Premium, which has built-in noise reduction. However, it’s less reliable than a dedicated device because of notifications/calls/etc, occasional hiccups because the phone thinks it should stop when the phone is locked, etc. All of these things can be addressed by tweaking phone settings, but all of that is a pain in the neck when all you want is to be able to press a button and then never have to worry about whether the recording is happening.

If you can stomach the expense, I’d suggests the new Victor Reader Stream 3. It’s very compact, entirely accessible, and uses standard SD cards and USB c to  make transferring files a breeze. It’s a bit overkill for just a voice recorder, but its accessible features make it the best choice if you can expense it (uses standard mp3 files for recording, allows for bookmarking points of interest in an audio file when listening, etc). It also is a fully-functional reader  that can read DAISY and ePub books, as well as Word DOCX and PDF  files. You can add audio bookmarks to those files as well. That is particularly handy when reviewing long PDFs. Note that the PDF’s have to include accessible text, so must be OCRd if they are scanned.

Best of luck.

On 5 Aug 2023, at 7:10, Sai wrote:

> Given you're not doing this for unusually high audio quality like 
> radio, why not just use a smartphone or laptop app?
>
> Most will name it by the timestamp, and in any case the date-created 
> or date-modified timestamp will be on the file metadata.
>
> In some chat apps, like Signal, you can message yourself, and you can 
> record audio messages. Those would also have timestamps, though it's 
> not as easy to transfer the files.
>
> Sincerely,
> Sai
> President, Fiat Fiendum, Inc., a 501(c)(3)
>
> Sent from my mobile phone; please excuse the concision, typos, and 
> autocorrect errors.
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 18:55 Josh Loevy via BlindLaw, 
> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I'm in the market for a digital voice recorder that will let me 
>> export files to my hard drive, mostly time entries for later 
>> transcription. I'm getting a lot of mixed signals from what I'm 
>> seeing online, does anyone have one they use in their practice and 
>> like?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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>> BlindLaw:
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>>

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From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 14:59:36 2023
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:59:36 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
References: <5C4EFADF-BB0E-4AFD-9468-7021BDFD6743.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5C4EFADF-BB0E-4AFD-9468-7021BDFD6743@yahoo.com>

I am trying to get licensed in Ohio via transferred UBE score, and I need to take an Ohio law component in order to do so. As I just learned today, it is primarily—I hope not exclusively—offered through ExamSoft. I remember that this product was inaccessible before, has anything changed? Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone


From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Mon Aug  7 18:17:16 2023
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:17:16 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <5C4EFADF-BB0E-4AFD-9468-7021BDFD6743@yahoo.com>
References: <5C4EFADF-BB0E-4AFD-9468-7021BDFD6743@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FC636FB1-04AC-4D74-BF02-410D90CD58C6@icloud.com>

When I tried to use it in 2020, it was not accessible. I have accommodations to school to submit my exams alternatively. As far as I know, it’s still not accessible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 11:00 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to get licensed in Ohio via transferred UBE score, and I need to take an Ohio law component in order to do so. As I just learned today, it is primarily—I hope not exclusively—offered through ExamSoft. I remember that this product was inaccessible before, has anything changed? Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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From seifs at umich.edu  Mon Aug  7 18:45:01 2023
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:45:01 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <FC636FB1-04AC-4D74-BF02-410D90CD58C6@icloud.com>
References: <5C4EFADF-BB0E-4AFD-9468-7021BDFD6743@yahoo.com>
 <FC636FB1-04AC-4D74-BF02-410D90CD58C6@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3kOQe6ZtRcy_YuydH1cASC7ZvMy80RHpJiQDypXHHGAkGoHw@mail.gmail.com>

Same for me in 2021.


From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  7 19:26:45 2023
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:26:45 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3kOQe6ZtRcy_YuydH1cASC7ZvMy80RHpJiQDypXHHGAkGoHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3kOQe6ZtRcy_YuydH1cASC7ZvMy80RHpJiQDypXHHGAkGoHw@mail.gmail.com>
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From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Mon Aug  7 22:35:50 2023
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 18:35:50 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <4B966192-E661-4A3D-ABEF-D87F07DE266F@yahoo.com>
References: <4B966192-E661-4A3D-ABEF-D87F07DE266F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <34E7EF25-D80B-43EA-A092-4733FE044CF9@icloud.com>

I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?

From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Mon Aug  7 23:49:08 2023
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:49:08 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <34E7EF25-D80B-43EA-A092-4733FE044CF9@icloud.com>
References: <34E7EF25-D80B-43EA-A092-4733FE044CF9@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Taking the 2023 bar exam in New York, I was required to upload my answers through exammplify. I composed my answers in word, and then copied and pasted them into the edit fields. I found that the app, in other words, the interface with examplify was minimally usable/navigable with JAWS. It seemed that tab and shift tab did not do what I expected. Meaning, they did not take me between regions of the window. Perhaps with some training beforehand, I could’ve made it work better. So I would say that, perhaps exemplify is technically accessible, but not necessarily user friendly. 

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?
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From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 00:22:27 2023
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:22:27 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
References: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <827DA453-1368-4947-AAAA-629236DEA957@yahoo.com>

Thanks, that’s actually better than I expected. Has anyone used it for a multiple choice test? That’s what I’ll be facing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Taking the 2023 bar exam in New York, I was required to upload my answers through exammplify. I composed my answers in word, and then copied and pasted them into the edit fields. I found that the app, in other words, the interface with examplify was minimally usable/navigable with JAWS. It seemed that tab and shift tab did not do what I expected. Meaning, they did not take me between regions of the window. Perhaps with some training beforehand, I could’ve made it work better. So I would say that, perhaps exemplify is technically accessible, but not necessarily user friendly. 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?
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From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Tue Aug  8 03:17:58 2023
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 23:17:58 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
References: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0BD48D25-AEC4-4D23-9883-88F86BC2B2D9@icloud.com>

I did a cursory read through the link that James posted, and I noticed there were a lot of hot keys that could use. It appears that from Maura’s experience, it is not accessible still at all, or it is only accessible with the hot keys. Either way you slice it, it’s certainly not accessible. 

From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Tue Aug  8 12:38:10 2023
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:38:10 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
References: <34E7EF25-D80B-43EA-A092-4733FE044CF9@icloud.com>
 <878280FF-1C5B-46C8-A096-37302E5B6BF5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <023201d9c9f5$3383dab0$9a8b9010$@comcast.net>

I know when I took the 2023 bar exam this past week,
I was allowed to let the proctor upload all that stuff for me after I typed the answers in word first.
Just as the past two time I took it,
I requested their assistance on the upload as one of my accommodations; and,
They granted it no problem.
I am in Illinois.



Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon
Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
Ph: 618 783 9331

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 6:49 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?

Hi folks,

Taking the 2023 bar exam in New York, I was required to upload my answers through exammplify. I composed my answers in word, and then copied and pasted them into the edit fields. I found that the app, in other words, the interface with examplify was minimally usable/navigable with JAWS. It seemed that tab and shift tab did not do what I expected. Meaning, they did not take me between regions of the window. Perhaps with some training beforehand, I could’ve made it work better. So I would say that, perhaps exemplify is technically accessible, but not necessarily user friendly. 

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?
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From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  8 13:30:30 2023
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 09:30:30 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <023201d9c9f5$3383dab0$9a8b9010$@comcast.net>
References: <023201d9c9f5$3383dab0$9a8b9010$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B6A85E44-F9C1-4102-BBA8-75D83EA3D2AD@yahoo.com>

That’s great, but that approach will not work for state-specific components administered remotely. Fingers crossed that it is accessible enough to get through 25 multiple choice questions, which is all it needs to do in my case.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2023, at 8:40 AM, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I know when I took the 2023 bar exam this past week,
> I was allowed to let the proctor upload all that stuff for me after I typed the answers in word first.
> Just as the past two time I took it,
> I requested their assistance on the upload as one of my accommodations; and,
> They granted it no problem.
> I am in Illinois.
> 
> 
> 
> Please advise as you like.
> 
> Mike M.
> 
> Mike mcglashon
> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
> Ph: 618 783 9331
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 6:49 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Taking the 2023 bar exam in New York, I was required to upload my answers through exammplify. I composed my answers in word, and then copied and pasted them into the edit fields. I found that the app, in other words, the interface with examplify was minimally usable/navigable with JAWS. It seemed that tab and shift tab did not do what I expected. Meaning, they did not take me between regions of the window. Perhaps with some training beforehand, I could’ve made it work better. So I would say that, perhaps exemplify is technically accessible, but not necessarily user friendly. 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?
>> _______________________________________________
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From seifs at umich.edu  Tue Aug  8 14:28:48 2023
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:28:48 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Gmail Forced Line Breaks?
Message-ID: <CA+3kOQeeGZvGNroDL62Nz7eGAQoAzPEOQTPuDrvYRH2NbzJ-pA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, all.

When writing emails, I and my friends notice that my emails are
received with lines of text cut to <100 characters per line or so
(forced line breaks). This effects paragraph deivisions and visually
does not look good. I use gmail's basic html feature, which is what I
think causes this. When I forward an email I sent, I notice these line
breaks as well. I an fix them, but they re-occur when I send. I am
told that the way my emails look when sent might dissuade some (even
employees from hiring me), or cause clients to look less favorably on
its contents (and generally have trouble reading it). The above is
supposed to be formatted as one paragraph.
Does anyone know how to fix it so sent emails are not
line-wrapped/look like that?

Thanks for helping.
Sincerely,
Seif


From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Tue Aug  8 14:28:53 2023
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:28:53 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
In-Reply-To: <B6A85E44-F9C1-4102-BBA8-75D83EA3D2AD@yahoo.com>
References: <B6A85E44-F9C1-4102-BBA8-75D83EA3D2AD@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BD583925-DB7D-4635-A1FA-2FD16F1AAAD1@gmail.com>

I took New York’s equivalent exam through a state administered website; while the other examinees used Examplify.  This leads me to think it is not accessible for multiple choice.

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 8, 2023, at 9:32 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That’s great, but that approach will not work for state-specific components administered remotely. Fingers crossed that it is accessible enough to get through 25 multiple choice questions, which is all it needs to do in my case.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2023, at 8:40 AM, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I know when I took the 2023 bar exam this past week,
>> I was allowed to let the proctor upload all that stuff for me after I typed the answers in word first.
>> Just as the past two time I took it,
>> I requested their assistance on the upload as one of my accommodations; and,
>> They granted it no problem.
>> I am in Illinois.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please advise as you like.
>> 
>> Mike M.
>> 
>> Mike mcglashon
>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 6:49 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Is ExamSoft still inaccessible?
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Taking the 2023 bar exam in New York, I was required to upload my answers through exammplify. I composed my answers in word, and then copied and pasted them into the edit fields. I found that the app, in other words, the interface with examplify was minimally usable/navigable with JAWS. It seemed that tab and shift tab did not do what I expected. Meaning, they did not take me between regions of the window. Perhaps with some training beforehand, I could’ve made it work better. So I would say that, perhaps exemplify is technically accessible, but not necessarily user friendly. 
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>> 
>>>> On Aug 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope they continue to ensure their software works as JAWS updates. I’m concerned that it only mentions JAWS 2022 when we are coming up on JAWS 2024 and the article was updated 3 months ago. Does anyone have any experience using Examplify recently with JAWS or NVDA?
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Wed Aug  9 17:44:52 2023
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 17:44:52 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] U.S. Department of Education Office of Civil Rights:
 Vacancy Announcement Posting for General Attorney and Equal Opportunity
 Specialist Various Locations (Remote Eligible)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR09MB933722D85C1A879CE78C8B70E812A@SA1PR09MB9337.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR09MB511051365393CD1552193C9C9C6D9@DM6PR09MB5110.namprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Below are the links for OCR USAJOBS vacancy announcements for the General Attorney, GS-0905-11, FPL-13, and Equal Opportunity Specialist, GS-0360-11, FPL-12 in various locations (Remote Eligible).

OCR-HQ-2023-0047 General Attorney (Civil Rights), GS-0905-11 FPL 13 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/742186200>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (100 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/Office for Civil Rights
Location: Remote reporting to DC Metro or Dallas
Series/Grade: GS-0905-11
Who May Apply: Open to US Citizens

OCR-HQ-2023-0050 General Attorney (Civil Rights), GS-0905-11 FPL 13 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/job/742193200>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (75 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/Office for Civil Rights
Location: Remote reporting to Atlanta
Series/Grade: GS-0905-11
Who May Apply: Open to US Citizens

OCR-HQ-2023-0051 General Attorney (Civil Rights), GS-0905-11 FPL 13 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/job/742195000>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (75 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/Office for Civil Rights
Location: Remote reporting to Boston, Denver, or Seattle
Series/Grade: GS-0905-11
Who May Apply: Open to US Citizens

OCR-HQ-2023-0052 General Attorney (Civil Rights), GS-0905-11 FPL 13 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/job/742196400>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (100 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/ Office for Civil Rights
Location: Remote reporting to New York, Kansas City, or San Francisco
Series/Grade: GS-0905-11
Who May Apply: Open to US Citizens

OCR-HQ-2023-0048 (MP) Equal Opportunity Specialist, GS-0360-11 FPL 12 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/job/742189800>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (50 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/Office for Civil Rights
Series/Grade: GS-0360-11
Location: Remote reporting to Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Denver, Kansas City, DC Metro, NY, SF, or Seattle
Who May Apply: Current federal civilian employees in the competitive service on permanent career or career-conditional appointments; Former federal employees with reinstatement eligibility; Current federal employees eligible under Interchange Agreements; and Applicants eligible under special hiring authorities (Schedule A, etc.). If you do not meet one of these categories, you may apply under the concurrently advertised vacancy announcement: OCR-HQ-2023-0049, which is open to all United States Citizens.

OCR-HQ-2023-0049 (DE) Equal Opportunity Specialist, GS-0360-11 FPL 12 (REMOTE ELIGIBLE)<https://www.usajobs.gov/job/742190900>
Open Period: 8/9/2023 - 8/22/2023 (50 applicant limit)
Department/Organization: Department of Education/Office for Civil Rights
Series/Grade: GS-0360-11
Location: Remote reporting to Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Denver, Kansas City, DC Metro, NY, SF, or Seattle
Who May Apply: Open to US citizens. If you are a current or former federal employee or are eligible under a special hiring authority (VEOA, Schedule A, etc.), you may be eligible to apply under the concurrently advertised merit promotion vacancy announcement: OCR-HQ-2023-0048.


From ThomasDukeman at outlook.com  Sat Aug 12 17:43:37 2023
From: ThomasDukeman at outlook.com (Thomas Dukeman)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:43:37 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Discrimination in the Workplace?
Message-ID: <CO1PR06MB791694673A6267FE93327138AD11A@CO1PR06MB7916.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hello all,

I recently attended the 2023 National NFB conference in Texas and it was from attending some of the workshops related to answering the question of when/if one should being up their vision situation in the spirit of transparency and that some less scrupulous employers might try to bring it before we do and get away with violating the ADA. That got me thinking then, are there instances where our vision has been used against us in some way? I am still pretty new to the NFB and don’t really know much about that kind of thing if at all, is made an issue for us to come together against or if that is something in the past? I know a lot of places SAY they are an equal employment opportunity employer, but are they really, at least for us? I thought to ask here because I feel like if anyone would know about legal issues impacting the blind, it would be you guys.

Thanks for your time and input,
Thomas Dukeman

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows


From sanho817 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 18:51:39 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 14:51:39 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Discrimination in the Workplace?
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR06MB791694673A6267FE93327138AD11A@CO1PR06MB7916.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CO1PR06MB791694673A6267FE93327138AD11A@CO1PR06MB7916.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAL6jpezQx1Xw_m93O6hPoEueVO7YXnSaWOGAU7afa1AGeCkSKw@mail.gmail.com>

Thomas,

Are you asking if blindness is still used against us in employment or
potential employment situations? The answer is a resounding yes.

Warmth,
Sanho

Sanho Steele-Louchart, Esq.
Legal Program Coordinator
National Federation of the Blind
Secretary, National Association of Blind Lawyers
He/Him

On 8/12/23, Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recently attended the 2023 National NFB conference in Texas and it was
> from attending some of the workshops related to answering the question of
> when/if one should being up their vision situation in the spirit of
> transparency and that some less scrupulous employers might try to bring it
> before we do and get away with violating the ADA. That got me thinking then,
> are there instances where our vision has been used against us in some way? I
> am still pretty new to the NFB and don’t really know much about that kind of
> thing if at all, is made an issue for us to come together against or if that
> is something in the past? I know a lot of places SAY they are an equal
> employment opportunity employer, but are they really, at least for us? I
> thought to ask here because I feel like if anyone would know about legal
> issues impacting the blind, it would be you guys.
>
> Thanks for your time and input,
> Thomas Dukeman
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>
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>


-- 
He/Him


From jtfetter at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 12 19:00:02 2023
From: jtfetter at yahoo.com (James Fetter)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 15:00:02 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Discrimination in the Workplace?
In-Reply-To: <CAL6jpezQx1Xw_m93O6hPoEueVO7YXnSaWOGAU7afa1AGeCkSKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL6jpezQx1Xw_m93O6hPoEueVO7YXnSaWOGAU7afa1AGeCkSKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AC28CB7E-952C-432B-8F6C-655CBC122C95@yahoo.com>

Indeed! Employment discrimination against the blind is widespread and well-entrenched. My own fun experiences is described at  https://jle.aals.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1748&context=home 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 2:53 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thomas,
> 
> Are you asking if blindness is still used against us in employment or
> potential employment situations? The answer is a resounding yes.
> 
> Warmth,
> Sanho
> 
> Sanho Steele-Louchart, Esq.
> Legal Program Coordinator
> National Federation of the Blind
> Secretary, National Association of Blind Lawyers
> He/Him
> 
>> On 8/12/23, Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I recently attended the 2023 National NFB conference in Texas and it was
>> from attending some of the workshops related to answering the question of
>> when/if one should being up their vision situation in the spirit of
>> transparency and that some less scrupulous employers might try to bring it
>> before we do and get away with violating the ADA. That got me thinking then,
>> are there instances where our vision has been used against us in some way? I
>> am still pretty new to the NFB and don’t really know much about that kind of
>> thing if at all, is made an issue for us to come together against or if that
>> is something in the past? I know a lot of places SAY they are an equal
>> employment opportunity employer, but are they really, at least for us? I
>> thought to ask here because I feel like if anyone would know about legal
>> issues impacting the blind, it would be you guys.
>> 
>> Thanks for your time and input,
>> Thomas Dukeman
>> 
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> -- 
> He/Him
> 
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From rothmanjd at gmail.com  Sat Aug 12 21:52:41 2023
From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (Ronza Othman)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 17:52:41 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Discrimination in the Workplace?
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR06MB791694673A6267FE93327138AD11A@CO1PR06MB7916.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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Absolutely, discrimination still exists for people who are blind or low vision. You can do a surface level search of EEOC cases and find a number of them. Also, the EEOC, just a couple of weeks ago, updated its enforcement guidance on equal employment opportunity for blind and visually impaired workers. This was indirect response to What they were seeing, and also because of the increase in blind people being shut out of job applications due to artificial intelligence in the application process. As an employment lawyer myself who primarily works in the civil rights arena, I would say that the vast majority of discrimination in employment toward blind people  is either because of inaccessible technology or incorrect and negative stereotypes about blindness. 

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> I recently attended the 2023 National NFB conference in Texas and it was from attending some of the workshops related to answering the question of when/if one should being up their vision situation in the spirit of transparency and that some less scrupulous employers might try to bring it before we do and get away with violating the ADA. That got me thinking then, are there instances where our vision has been used against us in some way? I am still pretty new to the NFB and don’t really know much about that kind of thing if at all, is made an issue for us to come together against or if that is something in the past? I know a lot of places SAY they are an equal employment opportunity employer, but are they really, at least for us? I thought to ask here because I feel like if anyone would know about legal issues impacting the blind, it would be you guys.
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From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov  Tue Aug 15 23:24:00 2023
From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 23:24:00 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Disability Advocates Urge Supreme Court Not To Limit ADA
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https://www.disabilityscoop.com/2023/08/15/disability-advocates-urge-supreme-court-not-to-limit-ada-protections/30495/
Disability Advocates Urge Supreme Court Not To Limit ADA Protections
By Michelle Diament
Disability Scoop
August 15, 2023

More than a dozen advocacy groups are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to uphold the rights of people with disabilities to sue under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
In a "friend-of-the-court" brief filed this month, 18 disability organizations argue that so-called testers - or individuals with disabilities who actively seek out ADA violations and pursue legal action - are critical to ensuring that the nation's primary disability rights law is followed.
"Private enforcement is both authorized by the text of the ADA and essential to its effective implementation," reads the filing from The Arc of the United States, the Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund, the National Disability Rights Network and several other organizations.
The brief comes in a case known as Acheson Hotels, LLC v. Laufer that's scheduled to go before the high court this fall. Deborah Laufer, a Florida resident who has a vision impairment and uses a cane or wheelchair, sued Acheson Hotels alleging that the website of the Coast Village Inn and Cottages in Wells, Maine did not offer sufficient information about accommodations for people with disabilities as required under the ADA.
The suit was dismissed by a lower court, which found that Laufer was not injured because she had no plans to visit the hotel. The decision was then overturned on appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit finding that "Laufer's feelings of frustration, humiliation and second-class citizenry" were "'downstream consequences' and 'adverse effects' of the informational injury she experienced."
Now, the Supreme Court is set to consider whether people with disabilities have standing to sue under the ADA if they have no intention of visiting the business in question.
The issue has gained significant attention in recent years as serial testers like Laufer - who has filed more than 600 federal lawsuits since 2018 making similar allegations against hotel owners and operators - have become more prevalent earning the ire of business groups and lower courts have differed on whether such testers have standing to sue.
The Chamber of Commerce, the American Hotel & Lodging Association, the Retail Litigation Center and others have filed amicus briefs siding with Acheson Hotels, characterizing the legal action brought by testers as clogging the courts and targeting small businesses ill-equipped to defend themselves.
However, more than 30 years after passage of the ADA, disability advocates argue that individuals like Laufer are providing a necessary service. And, they note that civil rights testing has been used since the 1950s to ensure that public accommodations are integrated and to weed out housing discrimination.
"Despite the ADA's promise to create equal access, insufficient oversight and enforcement means that businesses frequently ignore the civil rights of disabled people, making their daily lives extremely difficult and undermining the rights guaranteed by the law," said Shira Wakschlag, senior director of legal advocacy and general counsel at The Arc. "ADA testers are essential to ensuring the rights of people with disabilities are enforced and protected and that the full promise of the ADA is realized."
Amy Robertson, an attorney at Fox & Robertson who worked on the disability advocates' amicus brief, noted that once a person with a disability seeks to patronize a business that is not ADA compliant, it's too late for a lawsuit to help them.
"Systemic investigation by those protected by the ADA can accelerate society's progress toward a time when they and others can go about their daily lives expecting - and attaining - access to a wide range of facilities and services," Robertson said.
The case took an unexpected turn in July when Laufer voluntarily opted to drop her claims against Acheson Hotels and asked the Supreme Court to dismiss the matter as moot after an attorney who represented Laufer in other cases was disciplined by a federal court in Maryland.
The Supreme Court declined to dismiss the case last week but indicated that it would consider doing so when oral arguments are presented on Oct. 4.




From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed Aug 16 23:51:26 2023
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 18:51:26 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: FW: Department of Justice Seeks Public Comment on
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Thanks for sending this. I'll look into it, but here is my current thinking, and maybe this would be my public comment. I'm not a fan of giving the government more power than it needs, and it already has plenty in this space. If you ask the government for something, you might not like what you receive in return.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 1:02 PM MIKE MCGLASHON <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net <mailto:michael.mcglashon at comcast.net> > wrote:

Hey dude:
Since you work in this field,
I thought it might be up your alley to provide constructive comment on the matter;
See below for instructions.


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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed Aug 16 23:56:55 2023
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (MIKE MCGLASHON)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 18:56:55 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] here is what my friend said;
Message-ID: <416501d9d09d$5b3bf840$11b3e8c0$@comcast.net>

Thanks for sending this. I'll look into it, but here is my current thinking,
and maybe this would be my public comment. I'm not a fan of giving the
government more power than it needs, and it already has plenty in this
space. If you ask the government for something, you might not like what you
receive in return.

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net <mailto:Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net> 

Ph: 618 783 9331

 


From jdg.gardner2009 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 00:18:47 2023
From: jdg.gardner2009 at gmail.com (John Gardner)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 19:18:47 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations
Message-ID: <CAGJqSigop-Qh=tQ=XNAt_YGOHaMbcouJRCtn--eqTi6S=UODdw@mail.gmail.com>

My name is John Gardner. I have been on this list a couple times before, as
I am legally blind, and am trying to become a law student. I would like to
talk to people who are totally blind, or are losing their vision gradually.
I am wondering what accommodations you guys use to make sure you get the
best score on the LSAT. I would like to email or talk to some people or
somebody or multiple people who would be able to help me one on one. Do you
guys use readers to take the LSAT? Do you guys get to take the test on a
computer with JAWS? How did you guys study for your LSAT? I have a tutor
for the test that I swear by. He is awesome, and I am keeping him. But
truthfully I am wondering what accommodations are totally blind people
allowed to use? I have my LSAC account, and have had it for many years. But
again I am just wondering what accommodations are available, and what
people are using, what is used the most etc. Please let's be in touch.
Thanks so much.

Thanks
John Gardner

From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 00:27:27 2023
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:27:27 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations
In-Reply-To: <CAGJqSigop-Qh=tQ=XNAt_YGOHaMbcouJRCtn--eqTi6S=UODdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGJqSigop-Qh=tQ=XNAt_YGOHaMbcouJRCtn--eqTi6S=UODdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4E40E35-F270-42D8-B53D-06A145C990DA@gmail.com>

Happy to chat. Email me off list or text me at 4132503523 to set a time to talk.

Syed 


Sent from my iPhone.

> On Aug 24, 2023, at 8:19 PM, John Gardner via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My name is John Gardner. I have been on this list a couple times before, as
> I am legally blind, and am trying to become a law student. I would like to
> talk to people who are totally blind, or are losing their vision gradually.
> I am wondering what accommodations you guys use to make sure you get the
> best score on the LSAT. I would like to email or talk to some people or
> somebody or multiple people who would be able to help me one on one. Do you
> guys use readers to take the LSAT? Do you guys get to take the test on a
> computer with JAWS? How did you guys study for your LSAT? I have a tutor
> for the test that I swear by. He is awesome, and I am keeping him. But
> truthfully I am wondering what accommodations are totally blind people
> allowed to use? I have my LSAC account, and have had it for many years. But
> again I am just wondering what accommodations are available, and what
> people are using, what is used the most etc. Please let's be in touch.
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Thanks
> John Gardner
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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From rothmanjd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 11:38:57 2023
From: rothmanjd at gmail.com (rothmanjd at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:38:57 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Job Opportunity: Attorney with ABA Center on Children
 and the Law
Message-ID: <007d01d9d748$bc369090$34a3b1b0$@gmail.com>

Please find a posting for a vacancy with the American Bar Association Center
on Children and the Law.

 

Center on Children and the Law - Staff Attorney 2 - Career Portal
(dayforcehcm.com)
<https://us231.dayforcehcm.com/CandidatePortal/en-US/aba/Posting/View/4205>


 

 

 

 

Ronza Othman, President

National Federation of the Blind of Maryland

443-426-4110

Pronouns: she, her, hers

 

The National Federation of the Blind of Maryland knows that blindness is not
the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
blindness is not what holds you back

 

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From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com  Fri Aug 25 13:27:13 2023
From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:27:13 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Accommodations
In-Reply-To: <CAGJqSigop-Qh=tQ=XNAt_YGOHaMbcouJRCtn--eqTi6S=UODdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGJqSigop-Qh=tQ=XNAt_YGOHaMbcouJRCtn--eqTi6S=UODdw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45B94F14-52C7-45CF-9A73-BC88EF987538@icloud.com>

Hi John, 
I would strongly suggest you reach out to the accommodations team for the LSAT. They are really responsive and are a lot of help. I spoke with someone who is taking the LSAT, and they are still taking the test online. The software they use is accessible with jaws. When I took the online version of the LSAT, I had a reader as an accommodation, and it was during Covid, so I was told I had to provide a reader. Yes, completely illegal, I know.  I hope that this policy has changed and there are options for LSAC, to provide a reader to you in the event that you need it.  My best advice to you is to think about what has made you successful in your prep, and ask for those accommodations.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2023, at 8:20 PM, John Gardner via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My name is John Gardner. I have been on this list a couple times before, as
> I am legally blind, and am trying to become a law student. I would like to
> talk to people who are totally blind, or are losing their vision gradually.
> I am wondering what accommodations you guys use to make sure you get the
> best score on the LSAT. I would like to email or talk to some people or
> somebody or multiple people who would be able to help me one on one. Do you
> guys use readers to take the LSAT? Do you guys get to take the test on a
> computer with JAWS? How did you guys study for your LSAT? I have a tutor
> for the test that I swear by. He is awesome, and I am keeping him. But
> truthfully I am wondering what accommodations are totally blind people
> allowed to use? I have my LSAC account, and have had it for many years. But
> again I am just wondering what accommodations are available, and what
> people are using, what is used the most etc. Please let's be in touch.
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Thanks
> John Gardner
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 16:36:32 2023
From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:36:32 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Braille LSAT Prep Materials
Message-ID: <03BF4D19-1808-47D9-90E3-9E6904409C0B@gmail.com>

Hello All,  

I am preparing to take the LSATs this October. Although I have already submitted my request for accommodations, I am still waiting to hear back. I have requested to take the exam in Braille and have plenty of documentation proving that that this is the format in which I have taken all previous standardized tests, so I am fairly confident that I will be granted this accommodation.

I have purchased prep books from PowerScore, but unfortunately those are no longer available in Braille. I have also been using practice tests that are available online. I am unable to request the four free practice tests available on LawHub to be provided to me in Braille until I have been approved for the accommodation. 

Does anyone have any old Braille LSAT practice tests or other prep material they no longer need or are looking to give away? 

I would be grateful for anything I could potentially get my hands on. 

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Natasha 

From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 04:46:43 2023
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 00:46:43 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Braille LSAT Prep Materials
In-Reply-To: <03BF4D19-1808-47D9-90E3-9E6904409C0B@gmail.com>
References: <03BF4D19-1808-47D9-90E3-9E6904409C0B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25DB8DF5-C9D4-4086-B879-8FA263CBD9E3@gmail.com>

Hello Natasha and all.  Hope you are doing well. That’s great you will be taking the LSAT exam on October this year. I will be taking it this November.  I also requested to take my exam in braille, so I am still waiting for them to approve it. Just one question, I wasn’t aware that there were four free practice tests from LsAC. Could you send me the link where you find them? I will really appreciate it. I may request to get them in Braille in order to practice.   For studying, I am using the PowerScore Bibles as well. I hope you get the Braille practice tests you need to prepare for the test! Look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for reading. 

Helga Schreiber 
Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max 
 


> On Aug 25, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,  
> 
> I am preparing to take the LSATs this October. Although I have already submitted my request for accommodations, I am still waiting to hear back. I have requested to take the exam in Braille and have plenty of documentation proving that that this is the format in which I have taken all previous standardized tests, so I am fairly confident that I will be granted this accommodation.
> 
> I have purchased prep books from PowerScore, but unfortunately those are no longer available in Braille. I have also been using practice tests that are available online. I am unable to request the four free practice tests available on LawHub to be provided to me in Braille until I have been approved for the accommodation. 
> 
> Does anyone have any old Braille LSAT practice tests or other prep material they no longer need or are looking to give away? 
> 
> I would be grateful for anything I could potentially get my hands on. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Natasha 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com

From davant1958 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 09:32:10 2023
From: davant1958 at gmail.com (davant1958 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 04:32:10 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] FW: Equip for Equality/Blind Community Group - Opening
	for civil rights attorney at Access Living
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR07MB418572A51EB8CC42D24DBA1ED9E3A@DM6PR07MB4185.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM6PR07MB418572A51EB8CC42D24DBA1ED9E3A@DM6PR07MB4185.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <035301d9d800$304c32c0$90e49840$@gmail.com>

Hello,

I am sharing the following announcement of a job posting for an attorney
position at Access Living Chicago.

 

 

From: Andrew Webb <AndrewW at equipforequality.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:39 PM
To: Andrew Webb <AndrewW at equipforequality.org>
Subject: Equip for Equality/Blind Community Group - Opening for civil rights
attorney at Access Living

 

Hello, 

 

I am sharing this announcement on the possibility that it may be of interest
to certain list members, and also to encourage folks to share it with others
who might be interested (and who are attorneys). 

 

Access Living, the Center for Independent Living for Chicago, has an opening
for an attorney. This is a great opportunity for someone passionate about
disability rights and about civil rights in general. The attached posting,
and the link below, provide more details. 

   

 
<https://www.accessliving.org/get-involved/job-openings/senior-attorney-jobs
-at-access-living/>
https://www.accessliving.org/get-involved/job-openings/senior-attorney-jobs-
at-access-living/ 

 

 

Kind regards, 

Andrew 

 

 

Andrew R. Webb

Senior Attorney

Equip For Equality

20 N. Michigan Avenue, Suite 300

Chicago, IL  60602

(312) 895-7347

andreww at equipforequality.org <mailto:andreww at equipforequality.org>  

 

 

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From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 26 21:47:55 2023
From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:47:55 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Braille LSAT Prep Materials
In-Reply-To: <25DB8DF5-C9D4-4086-B879-8FA263CBD9E3@gmail.com>
References: <03BF4D19-1808-47D9-90E3-9E6904409C0B@gmail.com>
 <25DB8DF5-C9D4-4086-B879-8FA263CBD9E3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPi4z4GQ3U3F3N0gvk4wVct03jpqr9+qnRKBGUtuQ0VP8tkHYA@mail.gmail.com>

Helga, I just emailed you directly providing you with the information
regarding LSAC’s free practice exams on LawHub.

If anyone has handy suggestions or recommendations for where I can
potentially get my hands on some Braille practice exams and test prep
material, i would be incredibly grateful. According to LSAC, I am unable to
request practice exams in Braille when my accommodations for a Braille test
are still to be approved.

Please reach out if you have any spare materials you are lookin to give
away or if you know anyone who does.

Thank you!

Best,
Natasha

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 12:46 AM Helga Schreiber <
helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Natasha and all.  Hope you are doing well. That’s great you will be
> taking the LSAT exam on October this year. I will be taking it this
> November.  I also requested to take my exam in braille, so I am still
> waiting for them to approve it. Just one question, I wasn’t aware that
> there were four free practice tests from LsAC. Could you send me the link
> where you find them? I will really appreciate it. I may request to get them
> in Braille in order to practice.   For studying, I am using the PowerScore
> Bibles as well. I hope you get the Braille practice tests you need to
> prepare for the test! Look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much
> for reading.
>
> Helga Schreiber
> Email Address: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Sent From my iPhone 11 Pro Max
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw <
> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I am preparing to take the LSATs this October. Although I have already
> submitted my request for accommodations, I am still waiting to hear back. I
> have requested to take the exam in Braille and have plenty of documentation
> proving that that this is the format in which I have taken all previous
> standardized tests, so I am fairly confident that I will be granted this
> accommodation.
>
> I have purchased prep books from PowerScore, but unfortunately those are
> no longer available in Braille. I have also been using practice tests that
> are available online. I am unable to request the four free practice tests
> available on LawHub to be provided to me in Braille until I have been
> approved for the accommodation.
>
> Does anyone have any old Braille LSAT practice tests or other prep
> material they no longer need or are looking to give away?
>
> I would be grateful for anything I could potentially get my hands on.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
> Natasha
>
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> BlindLaw:
>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber26%40gmail.com
>
> --
Thanks,
Natasha Ishaq

“Always try to be nice, but never fail to be kind.”
-Steven Moffat

From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 16:11:48 2023
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:11:48 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>

Good afternoon everyone,

I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
help me learn.

Thanks,

Julie


-- 
Julie A. Orozco
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
Law, JD Candidate 2023


From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 16:30:49 2023
From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:30:49 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DCDF48C4-87ED-4E5A-844A-A0BF1902CF1E@gmail.com>

I'm in evidence this semester as well and am following and will let you know if I find something! 

Sent from my iPhone.

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> -- 
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
> 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 16:32:01 2023
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:32:01 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> -- 
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
> 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/maurakutnyak%40gmail.com


From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 16:34:58 2023
From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:34:58 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017401d9db5f$ea5d2810$bf177830$@gmail.com>

I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible, 
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an 
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are 
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every 
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I 
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through 
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not 
> help me learn.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of 
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
> 
> _______________________________________________
> BlindLaw mailing list
> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
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> mail.com

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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Wed Aug 30 16:49:04 2023
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (sbg sbgaal.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:49:04 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR22MB26318B51D05396D369072A86D9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Could you send those to me as well?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
Fax:  (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:  sbg at sbgaal.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible, 
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an 
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are 
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every 
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I 
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through 
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not 
> help me learn.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of 
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
> 
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From sbg at sbgaal.com  Wed Aug 30 16:50:08 2023
From: sbg at sbgaal.com (sbg sbgaal.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:50:08 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PH0PR22MB263132ACF55DEEFCBAB570ADD9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

I would love a copy as well my email is below

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:  (806) 763-3999
Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible, 
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an 
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are 
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every 
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I 
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through 
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not 
> help me learn.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of 
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
> 
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 16:56:02 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:56:02 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <017401d9db5f$ea5d2810$bf177830$@gmail.com>
References: <017401d9db5f$ea5d2810$bf177830$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD@gmail.com>

I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful. 

Sanho 

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  
> Thanks.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
> 
> Hi Julie,
> 
> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>> 
>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible, 
>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an 
>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are 
>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every 
>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I 
>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through 
>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not 
>> help me learn.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julie A. Orozco
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of 
>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>> 
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From pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 17:22:28 2023
From: pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com (Yoon Kim)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:22:28 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD@gmail.com>
References: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AEBC72DF-334F-4E72-9185-B8D0FF6457B1@gmail.com>

Hello! Can I you send me one as well. Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful. 
> 
> Sanho 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>> 
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible, 
>>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an 
>>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are 
>>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every 
>>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I 
>>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through 
>>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not 
>>> help me learn.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. Orozco
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of 
>>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>>> mail.com
>> 
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From michael.mcglashon at comcast.net  Wed Aug 30 17:23:13 2023
From: michael.mcglashon at comcast.net (Mike Mcglashon)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:23:13 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD@gmail.com>
References: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E9D6E4-5FCF-4800-A10A-58C385C1D54D@comcast.net>


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful.
> 
> Sanho
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com  
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>> 
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>> 
>> Warmly,
>> 
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>>> help me learn.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. Orozco
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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>>> mail.com
>> 
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>> 
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From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 17:51:28 2023
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:51:28 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR22MB26318B51D05396D369072A86D9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
 <PH0PR22MB26318B51D05396D369072A86D9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <c09fec4e-8e06-7626-accd-9ca83e82ad80@gmail.com>

May I have a copy as well. My email address is rthomas48 at gmail.com


Yours Truly


Roderick Thomas(I recently just took the Florida bar exam)

On 8/30/2023 12:49 PM, sbg sbgaal.com via BlindLaw wrote:
> Could you send those to me as well?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>
> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> 1212 Texas Avenue
> Lubbock, Texas 79401
> Office:  (806) 763-3999
> Mobile:  (806) 781-9296
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>
> Warmly,
>
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>> help me learn.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. Orozco
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BlindLaw mailing list
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From seifs at umich.edu  Wed Aug 30 18:23:40 2023
From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:23:40 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <c09fec4e-8e06-7626-accd-9ca83e82ad80@gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
 <PH0PR22MB26318B51D05396D369072A86D9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <c09fec4e-8e06-7626-accd-9ca83e82ad80@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+3kOQf+HZ6-1qRGK3vinm2RvuVSPj5h=BPf3-ew1kDn54pZ-g@mail.gmail.com>

Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
listserve with an attachment?


From rthomas48 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 19:29:51 2023
From: rthomas48 at gmail.com (Roderick Thomas)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:29:51 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] How to Maximize my Linkdain social media
Message-ID: <2779c8c5-76ce-7197-6609-89652d00d865@gmail.com>

Can anyone show me how to maximize my LinkedIn social media page? I have 
over one thousand people in my network, but I am not maximizing every 
opportunity that Likdain has to offer. To be honest, I am not a big fan 
of using social media, except for YouTube, but I realize social media 
can be an excellent way to grow my presence in the legal community. I 
have tried to contact the company to see if they offer seminars or 
classes on-line for blind impaired individuals, but I have had no success.


Yours Truly,


Roderick Thomas



From rashiddeme at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 19:37:44 2023
From: rashiddeme at gmail.com (rashiddeme at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:37:44 -0500
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <CA+3kOQf+HZ6-1qRGK3vinm2RvuVSPj5h=BPf3-ew1kDn54pZ-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHox4DLrsaptirZKhPxi4=_zf4GBts8B9Pb1nw+bLiRGXnqSww@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC@gmail.com>
 <PH0PR22MB26318B51D05396D369072A86D9E6A@PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
 <c09fec4e-8e06-7626-accd-9ca83e82ad80@gmail.com>
 <CA+3kOQf+HZ6-1qRGK3vinm2RvuVSPj5h=BPf3-ew1kDn54pZ-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008e01d9db79$72c8ac60$585a0520$@gmail.com>

Good afternoon,
I wold like a copy as well.

Thank you

A Rashid Dème 

He/his
J.D Candidate
248-508-9146

-----Original Message-----
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Saqallah via BlindLaw
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Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
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Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
listserve with an attachment?

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From maurakutnyak at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 19:55:51 2023
From: maurakutnyak at gmail.com (Maura Kutnyak)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:55:51 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <008e01d9db79$72c8ac60$585a0520$@gmail.com>
References: <008e01d9db79$72c8ac60$585a0520$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message. Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in cooking dinner at the moment.

If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu 

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon,
> I wold like a copy as well.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> A Rashid Dème 
> 
> He/his
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> 
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 19:59:48 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:59:48 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>
References: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC@gmail.com>

If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the FRE and FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. I'll send mine ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment. 

Sanho 

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message. Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in cooking dinner at the moment.
> 
> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon,
>> I wold like a copy as well.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> A Rashid Dème 
>> 
>> He/his
>> J.D Candidate
>> 248-508-9146
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
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>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>> 
>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>> listserve with an attachment?
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 20:25:34 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:25:34 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC@gmail.com>
References: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>
 <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL6jpezb0PxD3Bt8oWwzdjiWahwPtEh2R3UajR8ZE+rYNDvMUQ@mail.gmail.com>

All,

My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word
and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.

Warmth,
Sanho

Warmth,
Sanho

On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the FRE and
> FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. I'll send mine
> ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>
> Sanho
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>> Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in
>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>
>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that
>> I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> A Rashid Dème
>>>
>>> He/his
>>> J.D Candidate
>>> 248-508-9146
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>
>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>>> listserve with an attachment?
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From pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 30 20:57:32 2023
From: pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com (pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:57:32 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <CAL6jpezb0PxD3Bt8oWwzdjiWahwPtEh2R3UajR8ZE+rYNDvMUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>
 <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC@gmail.com>
 <CAL6jpezb0PxD3Bt8oWwzdjiWahwPtEh2R3UajR8ZE+rYNDvMUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002401d9db84$98e6f860$cab4e920$@gmail.com>

Thanx!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

All,

My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.

Warmth,
Sanho

Warmth,
Sanho

On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the 
> FRE and FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. 
> I'll send mine ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>
> Sanho
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>> Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in 
>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>
>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials 
>> that I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw 
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> A Rashid Dème
>>>
>>> He/his
>>> J.D Candidate
>>> 248-508-9146
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>
>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the 
>>> listserve with an attachment?
>>>
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From glnorman15 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 30 21:57:31 2023
From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:57:31 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] BlindLaw Digest, Vol 231, Issue 16
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Sorry to add to this "string."
Request: Would value receiving a copy as well.
Sincerely,
G. Norman, Esq. L.L.M.
Cell: (410) 241-6745
GLNorman15 at hotmail.com

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   1. Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Julie A. Orozco)
   2. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Syed Rizvi)
   3. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Maura Kutnyak)
   4. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com)
   5. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (sbg sbgaal.com)
   6. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (sbg sbgaal.com)
   7. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
   8. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Yoon Kim)
   9. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Mike Mcglashon)
  10. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Roderick Thomas)
  11. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah)
  12. How to Maximize my Linkdain social media (Roderick Thomas)
  13. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (rashiddeme at gmail.com)
  14. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Maura Kutnyak)
  15. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
  16. Re: Super Accessible Rules of Evidence (Sanho Steele-Louchart)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:11:48 -0400
From: "Julie A. Orozco" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Good afternoon everyone,

I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
help me learn.

Thanks,

Julie


--
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MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
Law, JD Candidate 2023



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:30:49 -0400
From: Syed Rizvi <syedrizvinfb at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <DCDF48C4-87ED-4E5A-844A-A0BF1902CF1E at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I'm in evidence this semester as well and am following and will let you know if I find something!

Sent from my iPhone.

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
>
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:32:01 -0400
From: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <DB1EC295-99E4-484E-B3A1-94AA903770CC at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
>
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:34:58 -0400
From: <tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <017401d9db5f$ea5d2810$bf177830$@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
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Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
>
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:49:04 +0000
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Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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Could you send those to me as well?

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
>
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:50:08 +0000
From: sbg sbgaal.com <sbg at sbgaal.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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        <PH0PR22MB263132ACF55DEEFCBAB570ADD9E6A at PH0PR22MB2631.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I would love a copy as well my email is below

Sincerely,

Shannon Brady Geihsler

Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
1212 Texas Avenue
Lubbock, Texas 79401
Office:? (806) 763-3999
Mobile:? (806) 781-9296
Fax:? (806) 749-3752
E-Mail:? sbg at sbgaal.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence

Hi Julie,

I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
> help me learn.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
>
> --
> Julie A. Orozco
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:56:02 -0400
From: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <D8D9D8B9-B941-4AF5-BF15-970F8B18DCDD at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful.

Sanho

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>
> Warmly,
>
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>> help me learn.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. Orozco
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:22:28 -0400
From: Yoon Kim <pleaseletmesee2016 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <AEBC72DF-334F-4E72-9185-B8D0FF6457B1 at gmail.com>
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Hello! Can I you send me one as well. Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful.
>
> Sanho
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>
>> Hi Julie,
>>
>> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>>> help me learn.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie A. Orozco
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:23:13 -0400
From: Mike Mcglashon <michael.mcglashon at comcast.net>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <49E9D6E4-5FCF-4800-A10A-58C385C1D54D at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:57?PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?I have a copy that's searchable by subpart. Let me know if that would be helpful.
>
> Sanho
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?I would also love a copy of this in Word format. My email is tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:32 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>
>> Hi Julie,
>>
>> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>>>
>>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>>> help me learn.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie A. Orozco
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 13:51:28 -0400
From: Roderick Thomas <rthomas48 at gmail.com>
To: "sbg sbgaal.com via BlindLaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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May I have a copy as well. My email address is rthomas48 at gmail.com


Yours Truly


Roderick Thomas(I recently just took the Florida bar exam)

On 8/30/2023 12:49 PM, sbg sbgaal.com via BlindLaw wrote:
> Could you send those to me as well?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shannon Brady Geihsler
>
> Law Office of Shannon Brady Geihsler, PLLC
> 1212 Texas Avenue
> Lubbock, Texas 79401
> Office:? (806) 763-3999
> Mobile:? (806) 781-9296
> Fax:? (806) 749-3752
> E-Mail:? sbg at sbgaal.com
> This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 11:32 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> I have a copy of the federal rules in word. I may also have some other study guides or materials I can share. Would you like me to send them along?
>
> Warmly,
>
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> I am wondering if someone created or has found a super accessible,
>> easy-to-use document of the federal rules of evidence. I am in an
>> Evidentiary Foundations and Objections class this semester, and we are
>> supposed to know the rules of evidence and be ready to object every
>> week in class. I can adapt the documents I have, but I'm hoping I
>> don't have to create something that already exists. Reading through
>> the clunky PDFs of the rules of evidence is such a chore and does not
>> help me learn.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julie A. Orozco
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
>> Law, JD Candidate 2023
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:23:40 -0400
From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID:
        <CA+3kOQf+HZ6-1qRGK3vinm2RvuVSPj5h=BPf3-ew1kDn54pZ-g at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
listserve with an attachment?



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:29:51 -0400
From: Roderick Thomas <rthomas48 at gmail.com>
To: blind law <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blindLaw] How to Maximize my Linkdain social media
Message-ID: <2779c8c5-76ce-7197-6609-89652d00d865 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Can anyone show me how to maximize my LinkedIn social media page? I have
over one thousand people in my network, but I am not maximizing every
opportunity that Likdain has to offer. To be honest, I am not a big fan
of using social media, except for YouTube, but I realize social media
can be an excellent way to grow my presence in the legal community. I
have tried to contact the company to see if they offer seminars or
classes on-line for blind impaired individuals, but I have had no success.


Yours Truly,


Roderick Thomas




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:37:44 -0500
From: <rashiddeme at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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Good afternoon,
I wold like a copy as well.

Thank you

A Rashid D?me

He/his
J.D Candidate
248-508-9146

-----Original Message-----
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Saqallah via BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
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Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
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Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
listserve with an attachment?

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:55:51 -0400
From: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi folks,

I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message. Expect it later tonight. It?s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in cooking dinner at the moment.

If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that I?ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu

Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Good afternoon,
> I wold like a copy as well.
>
> Thank you
>
> A Rashid D?me
>
> He/his
> J.D Candidate
> 248-508-9146
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
> Saqallah via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>
> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
> listserve with an attachment?
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:59:48 -0400
From: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
Message-ID: <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the FRE and FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. I'll send mine ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.

Sanho

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?Hi folks,
>
> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message. Expect it later tonight. It?s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in cooking dinner at the moment.
>
> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that I?ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>
> Warmly,
>
> Maura Kutnyak
> 716-563-9882
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Good afternoon,
>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> A Rashid D?me
>>
>> He/his
>> J.D Candidate
>> 248-508-9146
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>
>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>> listserve with an attachment?
>>
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:25:34 -0400
From: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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All,

My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word
and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.

Warmth,
Sanho

Warmth,
Sanho

On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the FRE and
> FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. I'll send mine
> ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>
> Sanho
>
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi folks,
>>
>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>> Expect it later tonight. It?s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in
>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>
>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that
>> I?ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Maura Kutnyak
>> 716-563-9882
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Good afternoon,
>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> A Rashid D?me
>>>
>>> He/his
>>> J.D Candidate
>>> 248-508-9146
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>
>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>>> listserve with an attachment?
>>>
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From dtomblin at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 31 09:00:34 2023
From: dtomblin at hotmail.com (Darren Tomblin)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 09:00:34 +0000
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
In-Reply-To: <002401d9db84$98e6f860$cab4e920$@gmail.com>
References: <636D80C1-1F99-4DBE-AC62-0EC4C9CAC390@gmail.com>
 <2BD4A26D-523B-4DC7-B92C-ECB22F78CBFC@gmail.com>
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I would also like a copy thanks
Dtomblin at hotmail.com
73,
Darren Tomblin KC9JJJ

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 4:58 PM, Yoon via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Thanx!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 4:26 PM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>
> All,
>
> My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.
>
> Warmth,
> Sanho
>
> Warmth,
> Sanho
>
>> On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the
>> FRE and FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do.
>> I'll send mine ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>>
>> Sanho
>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>>> Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in
>>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials
>>> that I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>>
>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>> 716-563-9882
>>>
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> A Rashid Dème
>>>>
>>>> He/his
>>>> J.D Candidate
>>>> 248-508-9146
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>>
>>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>>>> listserve with an attachment?
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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From howardadelsberg at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 10:56:27 2023
From: howardadelsberg at gmail.com (Howard Adelsberg)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 06:56:27 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
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References: <SCZP152MB7561AEC808B998F7723F7030D4E5A@SCZP152MB7561.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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I would also like a copy. Hadelsberg at subinlaw.com. Thank you 

-Howard M. Adelsberg


> On Aug 31, 2023, at 5:01 AM, Darren Tomblin via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I would also like a copy thanks
> Dtomblin at hotmail.com
> 73,
> Darren Tomblin KC9JJJ
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 4:58 PM, Yoon via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanx!!!
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 4:26 PM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.
>> 
>> Warmth,
>> Sanho
>> 
>> Warmth,
>> Sanho
>> 
>>>> On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the
>>> FRE and FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do.
>>> I'll send mine ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Sanho
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>>>> Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in
>>>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials
>>>> that I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>>> 
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> 
>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Rashid Dème
>>>>> 
>>>>> He/his
>>>>> J.D Candidate
>>>>> 248-508-9146
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>>> 
>>>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>>>>> listserve with an attachment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
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From sanho817 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 31 11:34:21 2023
From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:34:21 -0400
Subject: [blindLaw] Fwd:  Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
References: <CAL6jpezb0PxD3Bt8oWwzdjiWahwPtEh2R3UajR8ZE+rYNDvMUQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
> Date: August 30, 2023 at 4:25:34 PM EDT
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
> 
> All,
> 
> My accessible and searchable rules of evidence are attached in Word
> and Excel. I'll send similar versions of the FRCP next week.
> 
> Warmth,
> Sanho
> 
> Warmth,
> Sanho
> 
>> On 8/30/23, Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If Maura, Julie, or any of the other recent law grads I've sent the FRE and
>> FRCP to would like to share them with the list, please do. I'll send mine
>> ASAP. My laptop's having trouble with the internet at the moment.
>> 
>> Sanho
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I will attach my copy of the federal rules in word to a separate message.
>>> Expect it later tonight. It’s on a hard drive and I am elbow deep in
>>> cooking dinner at the moment.
>>> 
>>> If anyone would like me to share some of the other evidence materials that
>>> I’ve collected just email me at:Maurakut at buffalo.edu
>>> 
>>> Warmly,
>>> 
>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>> 716-563-9882
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 3:38 PM, A. Rashid Deme via BlindLaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>> I wold like a copy as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> A Rashid Dème
>>>> 
>>>> He/his
>>>> J.D Candidate
>>>> 248-508-9146
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Seif-Eldeen
>>>> Saqallah via BlindLaw
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:24 PM
>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah <seifs at umich.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Super Accessible Rules of Evidence
>>>> 
>>>> Me too, please (seifs at umich.edu); or it might be better to email the
>>>> listserve with an attachment?
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> BlindLaw mailing list
>>>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org
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