[blindLaw] Respect for Others

[Sanho Steele-Louchart]

Mike,

I, for one, appreciate your candid and thoughtful response. I was
worried that my question was going to come across as snark. I'm glad
it wasn't taken that way. I agree with what you say in your
clarification. I don't know that I want those laws or policies to stop
existing, but I do see the contrast between where they helped get us
and how far we still have to go, as well as the new, additional
hurdles such laws and policies have created. I want to be valued, not
tolerated, and I want it to be because of who I am, not to avoid a
lawsuit.

Warmth,
Sanho

On 3/10/23, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I think what I am saying is that we have become so entrenched in passing
> policies and laws that we forget that the whole premise here is "how to get
> along with others" on an individual basis.
> It seems to me that in modern times the sighted world is hung up on
> "compliance with the law" rather than the personal interaction with us
> blindees.
> I am old enough to remember life before the ADA and such.  I want to be
> special; I want to be remembered because I am different than everyone else,
> even if the blind factor is what sets me apart.  It is a negotiating tactic
> that the ADA and other laws have taken away from me.
> Whatever happened to negotiating with sighted persons on a personal level?
> I would rather not deal with sighted persons at all if they don't think I
> am
> capable of doing anything rather than they deal with me because the law
> says
> they have too.
> It seems further that I hear the "word" compliance" more now than I ever
> have in my lifetime.
> I would rather have you deal with me because you "want too" rather than
> because you "have too".
> I believe that laws have de-personalized our interactions between we blind
> and sighted.
> I hope this makes sense to you.
> Furthermore, I hope these comments are not demeaning nor discriminatory per
> the list guidelines.
>
>
> Please advise as you like.
>
> Mike M.
>
> Mike mcglashon
> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
> Ph: 618 783 9331
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho
> Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 10:49 AM
> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Respect for Others
>
> Mike,
>
> I'm intrigued by the premise that policies and laws don't solve the problem
> resulting in the conclusion that "so we should stop doing it."
> I'm presuming 'it' means instituting such policies and laws. I'm trying to
> imagine a parallel--getting rid of the ADA, IDEA, and the Social Security
> Act because they don't actually abolish ableism in and of themselves.
>
> Sanho
>
> On 3/10/23, MIKE MCGLASHON via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Quoting:
>> we are not going to achieve inclusion by demeaning others.
>> End quote:
>> And we will not achieve it by policies and laws either.
>> So, we really should stop doing it.
>>
>>
>> Please advise as you like.
>>
>> Mike M.
>>
>> Mike mcglashon
>> Email: Michael.mcglashon at comcast.net
>> Ph: 618 783 9331
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David
>> Andrews via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 10:12 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews920 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Respect for Others
>>
>> There have been some messages lately about Diversity, Equity and
> Inclusion.
>> It has been pointed out that blind persons are sometimes left out of
>> DEI considerations. Further, some messages have not been very
>> respectful of gay and trans-gender persons.
>>
>> I would agree that we are sometimes passed over in DEI considerations,
>> however, we are not going to achieve inclusion by demeaning others.
>>
>> Please treat everybody with the respect you would expect for yourself.
>>
>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>
>>
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