[blindLaw] Shifting to Private Practice and Starting a New Job at K&E

Fri Aug 2 23:42:34 UTC 2024

Hi Rebecca, 

Of course - it would be great to chat with you and know more how it went. I will send you a separate email.

Thank you,
Abdul

> On Aug 3, 2024, at 2:33 AM, Rebecca Arrowood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi AbdulrahmaN,
> 
> I am also happy to connect off-line. I just spent my summer with a large law firm in Boston and would be happy to talk about some of the solutions as well as challenges I encountered.
> Best,
> Rebecca Arrowood
> 
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 6:07 PM, Abdulrahman Bagais via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Many thanks for your email and offering your support, derek.
>> 
>> It is so good to connect with you and other folks here in BlindLaw from various legal backgrounds, it is such a great thing to find people who share the same passion and challenges!
>> 
>> The links you’ve sent are really good timing, I am in the process of replacing NVDA by JAWS.
>> 
>> I will contact you out of the list and once again, greatly appreciate your support.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Abdulrahman
>> 
>> 
>> From: Derek Manners <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2024 3:12 AM
>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Abdulrahman Bagais <abagais1 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Shifting to Private Practice and Starting a New Job at K&E
>> 
>> Hi Abdulrahman,
>> 
>> I am an attorney at Dechert in Washington DC. Nice to meet you.  From what I understand, Jaws 18 has Vocalizer Expressive Voices Version 2, which supports Arabic.
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>> I’ve included a couple of links below that explain how to access languages on Jaws and that shows Jaws 18 purportedly supports Arabic.
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>> https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
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>> Languages with JAWS on the Internet<https://www.freedomscientific.com/SurfsUp/Languages.htm>
>> freedomscientific.com<https://www.freedomscientific.com/SurfsUp/Languages.htm>
>> [favicon.ico]<https://www.freedomscientific.com/SurfsUp/Languages.htm>
>> 
>> Feel free to reach out to me directly if you have other accessibility questions. Having navigated big law for 8 years, I’ve developed some tricks that work for me at least.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Derek
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2024, at 5:16 PM, Abdulrahman Bagais via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> Many thanks for your email and kind words, Tai.
>> 
>> Indeed, I've heard the same about JAWS from other VI lawyers in the UK, but since NVDA is the one used by nearly all blind people here in Saudi, I have been using it for a long time, and when decided to try JAWS I haven't find information about how can it work with bilingual English/Arabic voices, and as I am supposed to work in both languages at Kirkland, I requested NVDA because it's the one I know it can work in both languages and switch between them automatically. I will contact JAWS to check if it works in both languages.
>> 
>> Does anyone have an idea whether JAWS can be also used with English/Arabic bilingual voices or not?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Abdulrahman
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 11:29 PM
>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>>
>> Cc: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com<mailto:tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Shifting to Private Practice and Starting a New Job at K&E
>> 
>> Abdul,
>> Welcome to the list and congratulations on your new role as an associate for Kirkland & Ellis. Most attorneys who use screen readers are using JAWS for Windows due to its advanced handling of larger documents, arguably more robust feature set, and the variety of voices and languages supported. Its commands are quite similar to those of NVDA. I recommend you give it some consideration. It is something your firm should be able to purchase for you.
>> Tai
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Abdulrahman Bagais via BlindLaw
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 3:21 PM
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Abdulrahman Bagais <abagais1 at hotmail.com<mailto:abagais1 at hotmail.com>>
>> Subject: [blindLaw] Shifting to Private Practice and Starting a New Job at K&E
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I hope you are all well!
>> 
>> 
>> I am Abdulrahman Bagais, a totally blind legal practitioner from Saudi Arabia. I am very pleased to join the Blind Lawyers and find a community for visually impaired lawyers.
>> 
>> 
>> After nearly two years in my role as a legal trainee at Zahid Group, I have started a new role as a trainee associate at Kirkland & Ellis - Riyadh Office a month ago. As you can imagine, shifting to the private practice at a global law firm can be a bit challenging in the outset, there are a couple of systems used at K&E that I did not used to deal with in my previous role, the office is fairly newly established, so it takes some time to set up all the needed software and technologies and can be difficult to get accessible training and orientation.
>> 
>> 
>> I am writing generally to check if anyone has been in the same position and can help with any tips/advice, and also to ask about the screen reader that I use (NVDA), is there anyone in the group, by any chance, using/has used Acapela bilingual English/Arabic voices that can be used with NVDA? The IT team struggling to install a good quality version of bilingual English/Arabic version, also I have found it really difficult and not efficient to use the screen reader with large documents even if it's word as it becomes very slow, anyone can help with this issue?
>> 
>> 
>> If anyone has been through the same challenges, please feel free to send me a message out of the group to discuss it further and your support will be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Abdul
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