[blindLaw] Current or recent law school experience

[Aser Tolentino]

I used K1000. My school’s bookstore luckily forwarded the book list as soon as it was compiled, so the requests for books to arrive were fairly timely. I used a combination of scanners and paid readers to fill in the gap and was thankful my last name started with a T and I was fairly lucky on the luck of the draw for cold calls. Happily I never had to be the guy skimming Westlaw headnotes while trying not to sound like he was reading.

> On Jul 25, 2024, at 9:07 PM, Nikki Singh via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi! I just used JAWS once I had the textbooks converted to Word and/or PDF
> files! I note that some law school professors, from either disorganization
> or a misplaced sense of proprietorship over the syllabus, cannot or will
> not share a book list in advance of the course to permit timely conversion
> into an accessible format. It is objectionable, but it will happen, and you
> need to handle it. In that case, try to reach out and become friends with
> the staff of your law school library. I often had the library tie me over
> the first five chapters till the disability office had time to finish its
> work. I made sure that when I graduated, I gave that one particular staff
> member a nice present for all her diligence and work over the years!
> 
> 
> 
> Also, for class, nobody is reading or scrolling through the case. First of
> all, the textbooks rarely print the full case, especially Supreme Court
> cases whose opinion lengths have ballooned recently. Second, it is not a
> good use of time to read the case during an active discussion. You should
> prepare a case brief and be ready to engage in the classroom. Many sighted
> folks highlight—often to kindergarten level of coloring book fervor—but
> drafting your own case brief will be fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Nikki
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:18 AM Christine B via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did utilize Kurzweil 3000 but I believe my school needed lead time for
>> that and our professors weren’t giving book lists far enough in advance, so
>> that was putting undue stress on students with vision disabilities. I
>> finally gave up on that assist as a result.
>> 
>> I graduated in 2021, and thinking back now about trying to navigate law
>> school and the bar and the MPRE with a vision disability and all the
>> roadblocks and hurdles I encountered from the Deans at the school (UIC
>> Law), NCBE and Pierson Vue, gives me great anxiety and sadness. It’s
>> honestly a miracle I am a licensed attorney today given all those who tried
>> to make it impossible for me.
>> 
>> For anyone experiencing similar roadblocks with the NCBE and Pierson Vue,
>> the US Department of Justice is conducting an investigation. Please contact
>> Justin.page2 at usdoj.gov if you have been unfairly treated regarding
>> disability accommodations for the bar and/or the MPRE. Please spread the
>> word also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 10:21 PM omar duncan via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi based on current or previous law  school experience
>>> 
>>> When it comes to reading and scrolling through loads and loads of dense
>>> reading on cases that you have discussions about in class, what  is the
>>> fastest text to speech method to go
>>> About that?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is kurzweil 1000 or 3000 or open book used by you all.
>>> 
>>> Or using jaws or zoomtext  and uploading the reading material on FS
>> reader
>>> to be read through daisy files?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Or do you guys load the reading and books on a pdf software like Adobe
>> or
>>> some other reading system provided by these visually impaired softwares
>> to
>>> read and have it be read to you?
>>> 
>>> Or do you all use a combination of some vision with text speech AS A
>>> COMBINATION like text to speech with a CCTV?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian
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