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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 6244 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 05:50:04 2024 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 11:20:04 +0530 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Message-ID: Hi All, When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source of serious concern. 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. how to prevent this from happening? 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility From nssulca at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 14:19:44 2024 From: nssulca at gmail.com (Natalia Sulca) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:19:44 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004d01da6fd1$56403f30$02c0bd90$@gmail.com> Hi, I suggest updating to the latest jaws version. For the volume, insert space, v j and then you can lower or raise the jaws volume alone with the arrow keys to your liking. You can also use insert space then v then B followed by left or right arrows to move jaws exclusively to one side of your preference. Insert space, V, B and up or down arrow restore the balance. Hope this helps. Natalia -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Hi All, When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source of serious concern. 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. how to prevent this from happening? 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com From BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com Wed Mar 6 17:44:37 2024 From: BrianUnitt at holsteinlaw.com (Brian Unitt) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:44:37 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: <004d01da6fd1$56403f30$02c0bd90$@gmail.com> References: <004d01da6fd1$56403f30$02c0bd90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Wow Natalia, thanks for reminding me of that feature of being able to change Jaws to left or right. I had completely forgotten about that. I have been having problems lately with my laptop headset bleeding into the earbud I use for phone calls and this will solve that problem. Best, Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist in Appellate Law By the State Bar of California Law Office of Brian C. Unitt 6185 Magnolia Ave, PMB 40 Riverside, CA 92506 P: 951-682-7030 E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com Visit my Website NOTICE:  This communication is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain attorney/client information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply email or by telephone and immediately delete this communication and all its attachments. Confidentiality Disclaimer This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the author's intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete all copies, both electronic and printed, and contact the author immediately. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natalia Sulca via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 6:20 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Natalia Sulca Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Hi, I suggest updating to the latest jaws version. For the volume, insert space, v j and then you can lower or raise the jaws volume alone with the arrow keys to your liking. You can also use insert space then v then B followed by left or right arrows to move jaws exclusively to one side of your preference. Insert space, V, B and up or down arrow restore the balance. Hope this helps. Natalia -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Hi All, When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source of serious concern. 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. how to prevent this from happening? 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinlaw.com From nssulca at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 18:09:59 2024 From: nssulca at gmail.com (Natalia Sulca) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:09:59 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <004d01da6fd1$56403f30$02c0bd90$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002f01da6ff1$808ce610$81a6b230$@gmail.com> Hi, I'm so glad it was helpful! I can't even take the credit. My husband teaches Assistive technology and does accessibility auditing so tought me this. Happy jaws isolating! Natalia -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Brian Unitt via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:45 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Brian Unitt Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Wow Natalia, thanks for reminding me of that feature of being able to change Jaws to left or right. I had completely forgotten about that. I have been having problems lately with my laptop headset bleeding into the earbud I use for phone calls and this will solve that problem. Best, Brian Brian C. Unitt Certified Specialist in Appellate Law By the State Bar of California Law Office of Brian C. Unitt 6185 Magnolia Ave, PMB 40 Riverside, CA 92506 P: 951-682-7030 E: brianunitt at holsteinlaw.com Visit my Website NOTICE:  This communication is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain attorney/client information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply email or by telephone and immediately delete this communication and all its attachments. Confidentiality Disclaimer This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the author's intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete all copies, both electronic and printed, and contact the author immediately. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natalia Sulca via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 6:20 AM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Natalia Sulca Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Hi, I suggest updating to the latest jaws version. For the volume, insert space, v j and then you can lower or raise the jaws volume alone with the arrow keys to your liking. You can also use insert space then v then B followed by left or right arrows to move jaws exclusively to one side of your preference. Insert space, V, B and up or down arrow restore the balance. Hope this helps. Natalia -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 12:50 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS Hi All, When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source of serious concern. 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. how to prevent this from happening? 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/brianunitt%40holsteinl aw.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com From tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 18:13:08 2024 From: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com (Tai Tomasi) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:13:08 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FD7862E-A3D1-4681-89CA-4EB087D4E02D@gmail.com> I am optimistic that your second issue would be alleviated by updating to the newest version of Jaws. I don’t believe Jaws 2022 is maximized to work with Windows 11. As for the first issue, are you wearing headphones when interacting with jaws? Could you use a small earbud in one ear and have jaws routed to that ear? Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:51 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi All, > > When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source of > serious concern. > 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. > how to prevent this from happening? > 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and > remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. > > I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. > > Warmly, > > Rahul > > -- > -- > Rahul Bajaj > Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford > Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 08:07:45 2024 From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:37:45 +0530 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: <7FD7862E-A3D1-4681-89CA-4EB087D4E02D@gmail.com> References: <7FD7862E-A3D1-4681-89CA-4EB087D4E02D@gmail.com> Message-ID: i have both jaws 2022 and 2023 on my system. not entirely sure which one is running at present. how do I make that out? On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 23:44, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am optimistic that your second issue would be alleviated by updating to > the newest version of Jaws. I don’t believe Jaws 2022 is maximized to work > with Windows 11. As for the first issue, are you wearing headphones when > interacting with jaws? Could you use a small earbud in one ear and have > jaws routed to that ear? > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:51 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a source > of > > serious concern. > > 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. > > how to prevent this from happening? > > 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task and > > remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. > > > > I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. > > > > Warmly, > > > > Rahul > > > > -- > > -- > > Rahul Bajaj > > Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford > > Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038%40gmail.com > -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility From nssulca at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 11:59:09 2024 From: nssulca at gmail.com (Natalia Sulca) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:59:09 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS In-Reply-To: References: <7FD7862E-A3D1-4681-89CA-4EB087D4E02D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004301da73ab$86b658b0$94230a10$@gmail.com> Insert h and press about. It'll tell you what version you are running. -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 4:08 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Rahul Bajaj Subject: Re: [blindLaw] 2 problems with JAWS i have both jaws 2022 and 2023 on my system. not entirely sure which one is running at present. how do I make that out? On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 23:44, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw wrote: > I am optimistic that your second issue would be alleviated by updating > to the newest version of Jaws. I don’t believe Jaws 2022 is maximized > to work with Windows 11. As for the first issue, are you wearing > headphones when interacting with jaws? Could you use a small earbud in > one ear and have jaws routed to that ear? > Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A. > Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. > > > On Mar 6, 2024, at 12:51 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > When I appear in court with JAWS, there are 2 problems that are a > > source > of > > serious concern. > > 1. In webex and zoom, jaws can be heard by the other persons on the call. > > how to prevent this from happening? > > 2. jaws sometimes stops talking in the middle of an important task > > and remains frozen for a good couple of minutes. this leaves me stranded. > > > > I use JAWS 2022 and windows 11. Thank you. > > > > Warmly, > > > > Rahul > > > > -- > > -- > > Rahul Bajaj > > Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford > > Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/tai.tomasi8%40gm > ail.com _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/rahul.bajaj1038% > 40gmail.com > -- -- Rahul Bajaj Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Tue Mar 12 21:41:11 2024 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 21:41:11 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Charter Communications to Pay $60, 000 in EEOC Disability Discrimination Lawsuit In-Reply-To: <16873233.521@updates.eeoc.gov> References: <16873233.521@updates.eeoc.gov> Message-ID: From: U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 2:39 PM Subject: Charter Communications to Pay $60,000 in EEOC Disability Discrimination Lawsuit FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 12, 2024 Charter Communications to Pay $60,000 in EEOC Disability Discrimination Lawsuit Settles Federal Charges Company Insufficiently Accommodated Vision-Impaired Employee MILWAUKEE – Charter Communications, LLC, a broadband connectivity company and cable operator also known as Spectrum, will pay $60,000 and provide other relief to settle a disability accommodation lawsuit filed by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), the federal agency announced today. According to the lawsuit, Charter violated federal law when it refused to provide an ongoing schedule accommodation for an employee with a disability. The employee, who could not drive at night due to cataracts and night blindness, was assigned a shift ending at 9 p.m. and asked to be moved to an earlier shift. Charter initially granted the request for a shift change, but only for one month. When the accommodation expired, the employee requested an extension. Charter’s internal policy permitted work-schedule changes, but Charter summarily denied this request. According to the EEOC, Charter moved the employee back to the shift ending at 9 p.m. despite the employee’s ongoing disability and need for accommodation, stating that “assistance with your commute” is “not required under the ADA.” Such alleged conduct violated the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which prohibits disability discrimination and requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations for employees with disabilities, including shift accommodations, where appropriate. The EEOC filed suit (EEOC v. Charter Communications, LLC, Civil Action No. 2:18-cv-1333) in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin after first attempting to reach a pre-litigation settlement through its administrative conciliation process. The district court granted Charter summary judgment, finding that the employee did not need any accommodation to perform an essential job function. However, the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit reversed and remanded the dismissal (EEOC v. Charter Communications, LLC, Case No. 22-1231, 75 F.4th 729 (7th Cir. 2023)). “The ADA requires employers to make reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities who are qualified to do their jobs,” said Gregory Gochanour, regional attorney for the EEOC’s Chicago District. “The Seventh Circuit’s decision and the resolution in this case makes clear that if an employer believes that whether an employee can get to work is not their problem, they may run afoul of the ADA. In this case, where attendance was an essential function of the job, Charter would have fared better had it accommodated its employee.” Amrith Kaur Aakre, director of the Chicago District Office, said, “The ADA requires employers to consult with employees who request help in connection with a disability, and to participate in an interactive process to find reasonable accommodations that enable employees with disabilities to do their jobs. In this case, Charter’s efforts fell short.” For more information on disability discrimination, please visit https://www.eeoc.gov/disability-discrimination. The EEOC’s Chicago District Office has jurisdiction over Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota, and South Dakota, with Area Offices in Milwaukee and Minneapolis. The EEOC prevents and remedies unlawful employment discrimination and advances equal opportunity for all. More information is available at www.eeoc.gov. 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April 17 at 8ET, 7 CT, 6MT, 5PT. If you have a topic you’d like to learn about, please reply to this thread or send a message to Rose Warner at Rosesloan920 at gmail.com by March 29. We look forward to connecting with you next month. Best, Rose and Elizabeth National Association of Blind Lawyers Sent from my iPhone From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 15 23:22:57 2024 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 23:22:57 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Washington State Supreme Court Approves Alternative Pathways to Lawyer Licensure in Washington State - Courts.wa.gov - March 15, 2024 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For those of you who are not excited about taking a Bar exam....come to Washington soon (or apparently to Oregon). https://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/?fa=newsinfo.pressdetail&newsid=50389 Supreme Court Approves Alternative Pathways to Lawyer Licensure in Washington State Washington Courts: Press Release Detail Courts.wa.gov March 15, 2024 The Washington Supreme Court today filed a pair of Supreme Court Orders approving alternative pathways to lawyer licensure. This will be the first time in state history that the lawyer admissions rules do not necessitate some form of bar exam to demonstrate competency to earn a law license. While a handful of U.S. states have begun exploring similar alternatives in recent years, Washington's Supreme Court joins only Oregon in officially approving alternatives to the bar exam. A task force, studying options to the traditional bar exam was chartered in November 2020 by then-Chief Justice Debra Stephens following a year of pandemic-related bar-exam modifications that caused many to question the efficacy of the current exam. The Bar Licensure Task Force is chaired by Washington Supreme Court Justice Raquel Montoya-Lewis and Seattle University Law School Dean Anthony Varona. After more than three years of extensive study-bringing together data and research with testimony from scholars and experts-the Task Force came to two important findings: The traditional bar exam disproportionately and unnecessarily blocks marginalized groups from entering the practice of law, and the traditional bar exam is at best minimally effective for ensuring competent lawyers. The main objective of the court's admissions rules is public protection, with recommendations focusing lawyer admissions standards on real-world practice and skills while reducing historical barriers to the profession. "I would like to thank my co-chair Dean Varona and all the members of the Task Force that worked so hard over the past three years to develop this new path forward for Washington," said Justice Montoya-Lewis. "These recommendations come from a diverse body of lawyers in private and public practice, academics, and researchers who contributed immense insight, counterpoints and research to get us where we are today." "With these alternative pathways, we recognize that there are multiple ways to ensure a competent, licensed body of new attorneys who are so desperately needed around the state," she continued. "I am delighted but not surprised that the Washington Supreme Court has adopted the Task Force's recommendations. We are fortunate in Washington to have a Supreme Court that time after time has used innovative approaches to correct injustice and expand the law and legal services to meet the needs of the underserved and marginalized," said Seattle University School of Law Dean Anthony Varona. "The Court's decisions in adopting the NextGen Bar Exam, a revised cut score, and the alternate pathways to licensure will protect the public, allow law school graduates a choice of modalities to demonstrate their competency, and will immediately help address the severe shortage of licensed attorneys in broad swaths of the state, I thank the Court for adopting our recommendations, the Washington State Bar Association for endorsing them, Justice Montoya-Lewis for serving as an excellent Co-Chair, and all of the members of our Task Force for working so thoughtfully and hard for so long. This was a multiyear effort and we are delighted by the outcome," he said. The Court's orders implement these changes: * Adopt the National Conference of Bar Examiners' NextGen bar exam, which addresses many of the identified flaws in the current bar exam by focusing on real-world skills and practice. The NextGen bar exam will be implemented in Washington in summer 2026. * Create three experiential-learning alternatives to the bar exam, one for law-school graduates, one for law-school students, and one for APR 6 law clerks (who are enrolled in a non-law school course of study). * For graduates, this would entail a six-month apprenticeship under the guidance and supervision of a qualified attorney; during that time, the graduates would be required to complete three courses of standardized coursework. * For law students, the experiential pathway would allow them to graduate practice-ready by completing 12 qualifying skills credits and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern; they would be required to submit a portfolio of this work to waive the bar exam. * For law clerks (enrolled in a non-law school course of study), creation of additional standardized educational materials and benchmarks to be completed under the guidance of their tutors that dovetail with the requirements of the law school graduate apprenticeship, and 500 hours of work as a licensed legal intern to be eligible to waive the bar exam. * Call for the investigation and adoption of assessments and programs to help ensure lawyers remain competent throughout their careers, not just upon the moment of licensure. * Reduce the experience requirement for out-of-state licensed attorneys from three to one year to be eligible to be licensed in Washington via admission by motion. * Reduce the bar exam minimum passing score from 270 to 266 (the score adopted during the pandemic). The Court will partner with the Washington State Bar Association, its regulatory agency, to create a plan and implementation timeline, which will likely include outreach and partnership with many stakeholders, to develop/amend relevant Court rules and admissions processes. The Bar Licensure Task Force also looked at the Character and Fitness process for lawyer licensure. The Court expects to discuss and potentially act on those recommendations in April. From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 04:01:58 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 00:01:58 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions Regarding Blindness and Accessibility in Law School & the Legal Profession In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Syed! I am indeed a JAWS and VoiceOver user. I have been exploring various apps that can potentially help with navigating inaccessible documents, such as scanned PDFs or other PDFs that are inaccessible with JAWS. I’ve heard that VoiceDream is great for this. I’m also looking into apps such as Seeing AI or potentially even AIRA to assist with visuals and images. If you have any additional suggestions or recommendations, I’d love to learn about them! Thanks! Regards, Natasha On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 2:38 PM Syed Rizvi wrote: > Hi Natasha, > > > > Congrats on beginning your legal journey! > > > > I am a blind law school student and will try my best to answer your > questions. > > > > Regarding your second question, how do you currently do the bulk of your > reading? Many blind lawyers employ the use of a screen reading software, > such as Job Access With Speech, to quickly and accurately read through > large amounts of text. I think acquiring this skill would also be helpful > for law school and not only for work. You can potentially receive training > in how to use such software from your state’s vocational rehabilitation > agency. I’m happy to jump on a call to show you how I use this tool. > > > > Regarding your first and last questions, I wondered about the same > potential barriers in my own career. While there are ever growing > technological solutions to such visual barriers, sometimes the easiest path > is the low tech one. It is common for sighted attorneys to employ the > services of paralegals and professional assistants. Blind attorneys, like > their sighted counterparts, also receive assistance in their work from such > support staff. However, the type of assistance they may receive from their > support staff for particular tasks may differ. It is most important for you > to do your job efficiently. If that entails asking your support staff to > provide you with a description of an image or check for a signature on a > printed page, then that is a perfectly acceptable solution that does not > hinder your own independence. > > > > I am happy to connect and discuss further if you would like. > > > > Best of luck! > > -Syed > > > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:46 AM Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I will be starting law school in the fall and have a few specific >> questions >> regarding blindness and accessibility in law school and the legal >> profession as a whole. >> >> First, I was wondering whether anyone on this mailing list who is a >> prosecutor, defense attorney or judge would be willing to speak with me >> about navigating accessibility within their work. As someone interested in >> pursuing criminal law, I understand that viewing photographic images and >> videos are often part of the job when it comes to reviewing evidence. I >> would like to know how blind attorneys and judges are best able to >> overcome >> this kind of accessibility barrier and still maintain independence in >> their >> line of work? >> >> Second, what is the best software application that can be used to review >> annd navigate through electronic documents that are hundreds of pages >> long? >> >> Finally, what is the best approach to take when given inaccessible >> documents, such as inaccessible scanned PDFs or handwritten files? >> >> My goal is to have the solutions for the above barriers planned out prior >> to starting law school so that i can better focus on coursework, clinics >> and professional training without having to feel “stuck” because of >> inaccessibility. Essentially, I want to have a plan I can immediately >> follow to prevent these problems from arising in the first place. >> >> I am grateful for any and all insight and help. Thank you all so much. >> >> Warm Regards, >> Natasha >> > _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com >> > From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 12:00:00 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam Message-ID: Hi All, I am reaching out with a question regarding law school and the uniform bar exam. One of my supervisors from a previous legal internship told me that the main purpose of law school is to teach you how to think about the law and how do think like a lawyer. With that in mind, I was wondering whether law school actually helps to prepare its students for the bar? Does it depend on the school? is this a question I should ask while deciding which school to attend? If law schools do, in fact, prepare you for the bar, then am I correct in thinking the following: If I want to have the freedom to practice law in a range of states due to the fact that I do not yet know where I would want to settle down following graduation from law school, it makes sense for me to attend law school in a jurisdiction that offers the under the uniform bar exam. Therefore, attending law school in a state that does not offer the uniform bar exam would drastically limit my options following law school graduation, unless I was willing to take numerous bar exams. Is my frame of thinking correct here? Thank you so much! Warm Regards, Natasha From seifs at umich.edu Sat Mar 16 12:25:19 2024 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:25:19 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning, Natasha, Generally, higher-ranked schools are better for the materials/resources they have and the name recognition. As long as the school is accredited, one can take a bar in any jurisdiction after graduation. (New York has an additional professional responsibility requirement class component thing that many, if not all, law schools can meet.) The Uniform bar exam (UBE) is portable between states, so one need take that once and could transfer a score to another jurisdiction (reciprocity), depending on that jurisdiction’s requirements and the years it allows for one to transfer a score. Some are not UBE states, though and do not except transfers. The bar exam is also changing, with some states adopting the next gen(eration) exam. Honestly, I do not feel law school prepares one for the bar as well; that is why people take commercial bar prep courses afterwards. You do not need to attend a school in a UBE jurisdiction to take the UBE. But attending in a geography where you wish to practice might help you better know and network there. The NCBE website has good reciprocity resources, though much of it is in charts. I recommend choosing a school based on what it has to offer first, rather than on whether it be in a UBE state school. Happy to talk (phone or email) further. Sincerely, Seif -- Seif Saqallah (Mr.) University of Michigan Juris Doctor/ Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Graduate | 2020 International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu The information in this transmittal, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain privileged information protected from disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy all copies of the transmittal, including any attachments. Receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. From kaybaycar at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 19:19:59 2024 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:19:59 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01da77d6$f06c0a50$d1441ef0$@gmail.com> Hi Natasha, I just took the UBE in February, so I can hopefully provide some answers to your questions. First, does law school prepare you for the bar? Well, sort of. I can't provide a better answer because I think law school alone generally doesn't prepare you for the bar. I do think some of my classes in law school prepared me better than others. I took the Barbri prep course this winter, and throughout that course, I really felt which classes prepared me better than others. This was largely because of the professor rather than the school itself. For example, I felt like I learned contracts in a new way in my course that worked for me better than my actual contracts class. But my evidence class prepared me so well for the bar that I generally scored higher in all my evidence question sets. I went to school in a UBE jurisdiction, Washington, DC. But plenty of people at my school planned to take the bar in other places. Virginia, for example, is a popular bar spot over here, even though it's one of the toughest bars in the area. I was planning to take the bar in DC all along, in part because it is a UBE jurisdiction, and in part because it was the most convenient. I was not going to travel hours to the capital of Virginia to take the bar there and stay in a hotel. That wasn't happening. If you don't know where you will land after law school, planning to take the UBE might be a good idea. But I completely agree that you should pick a law school because of its programs rather than because it will prepare you for the bar. It might be a good question to ask when you apply, but I wouldn't put much weight on the answer, unless the school just doesn't care about preparing you at all. I chose my school because of its excellent public interest program, and I wasn't disappointed in that regard. Hope this helps, Julie -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 8:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Natasha Ishaq Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam Hi All, I am reaching out with a question regarding law school and the uniform bar exam. One of my supervisors from a previous legal internship told me that the main purpose of law school is to teach you how to think about the law and how do think like a lawyer. With that in mind, I was wondering whether law school actually helps to prepare its students for the bar? Does it depend on the school? is this a question I should ask while deciding which school to attend? If law schools do, in fact, prepare you for the bar, then am I correct in thinking the following: If I want to have the freedom to practice law in a range of states due to the fact that I do not yet know where I would want to settle down following graduation from law school, it makes sense for me to attend law school in a jurisdiction that offers the under the uniform bar exam. Therefore, attending law school in a state that does not offer the uniform bar exam would drastically limit my options following law school graduation, unless I was willing to take numerous bar exams. Is my frame of thinking correct here? Thank you so much! Warm Regards, Natasha _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 21:50:24 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 17:50:24 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3404E053-FF6A-4C02-BF6B-C3CC6C7629E3@gmail.com> All: Just clarifying that UBE score transfer and reciprocity are two different things. UBE score transfer is available to people who have taken the UBE within a certain amount of time, have received a minimum passing score, and have met any relevant state-specific bar requirements. Reciprocity is typically tied to admission without examination and requires a practitioner in good standing to have practiced X out of the past Y years, etc. UBE score transfer and reciprocity are for two different sets of professionals. I bring this up because it's an important distinction when researching rules around and planning for multi-state licensure. Warmth, Sanho > On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:26 AM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good morning, Natasha, > > > > Generally, higher-ranked schools are better for the materials/resources > they have and the name recognition. As long as the school is accredited, > one can take a bar in any jurisdiction after graduation. (New York has an > additional professional responsibility requirement class component thing > that many, if not all, law schools can meet.) The Uniform bar exam (UBE) is > portable between states, so one need take that once and could transfer a > score to another jurisdiction (reciprocity), depending on that > jurisdiction’s requirements and the years it allows for one to transfer a > score. Some are not UBE states, though and do not except transfers. The bar > exam is also changing, with some states adopting the next gen(eration) exam. > > > > Honestly, I do not feel law school prepares one for the bar as well; that > is why people take commercial bar prep courses afterwards. > > > > You do not need to attend a school in a UBE jurisdiction to take the UBE. > But attending in a geography where you wish to practice might help you > better know and network there. > > > > The NCBE website has good reciprocity resources, though much of it is in > charts. > > > > I recommend choosing a school based on what it has to offer first, rather > than on whether it be in a UBE state school. Happy to talk (phone or email) > further. > > > > Sincerely, > Seif > > > -- > Seif Saqallah > (Mr.) > University of Michigan > Juris Doctor/ > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies > J.D/M.A Graduate | 2020 > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; > Law, Justice, and Social Change > B.A | 2017 > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > The information in this transmittal, including any attachments, is > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the > sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy > all copies of the transmittal, including any attachments. Receipt of this > message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 00:32:48 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:32:48 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: <3404E053-FF6A-4C02-BF6B-C3CC6C7629E3@gmail.com> References: <3404E053-FF6A-4C02-BF6B-C3CC6C7629E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: To clarify, does this mean that the UBE does not automatically allow for multi-state lisencure? I was under the impression that if I took the UBE, I would be able to practice law in one UBE jurisdiction and then practice in another if I so desired. Is this incorrect? Also, is this something I should be thinking about when deciding which law school to attend? Thanks, Natasha Ishaq On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 5:51 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > All: > > Just clarifying that UBE score transfer and reciprocity are two different > things. UBE score transfer is available to people who have taken the UBE > within a certain amount of time, have received a minimum passing score, and > have met any relevant state-specific bar requirements. Reciprocity is > typically tied to admission without examination and requires a practitioner > in good standing to have practiced X out of the past Y years, etc. UBE > score transfer and reciprocity are for two different sets of professionals. > I bring this up because it's an important distinction when researching > rules around and planning for multi-state licensure. > > Warmth, > Sanho > > > On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:26 AM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Good morning, Natasha, > > > > > > > > Generally, higher-ranked schools are better for the materials/resources > > they have and the name recognition. As long as the school is accredited, > > one can take a bar in any jurisdiction after graduation. (New York has an > > additional professional responsibility requirement class component thing > > that many, if not all, law schools can meet.) The Uniform bar exam (UBE) > is > > portable between states, so one need take that once and could transfer a > > score to another jurisdiction (reciprocity), depending on that > > jurisdiction’s requirements and the years it allows for one to transfer a > > score. Some are not UBE states, though and do not except transfers. The > bar > > exam is also changing, with some states adopting the next gen(eration) > exam. > > > > > > > > Honestly, I do not feel law school prepares one for the bar as well; that > > is why people take commercial bar prep courses afterwards. > > > > > > > > You do not need to attend a school in a UBE jurisdiction to take the UBE. > > But attending in a geography where you wish to practice might help you > > better know and network there. > > > > > > > > The NCBE website has good reciprocity resources, though much of it is in > > charts. > > > > > > > > I recommend choosing a school based on what it has to offer first, rather > > than on whether it be in a UBE state school. Happy to talk (phone or > email) > > further. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > > > -- > > Seif Saqallah > > (Mr.) > > University of Michigan > > Juris Doctor/ > > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies > > J.D/M.A Graduate | 2020 > > > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; > > Law, Justice, and Social Change > > B.A | 2017 > > > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > > > The information in this transmittal, including any attachments, is > > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > > disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify > the > > sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and destroy > > all copies of the transmittal, including any attachments. Receipt of this > > message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq2001%40gmail.com > From sanho817 at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 00:58:16 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:58:16 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kaybaycar at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 01:06:58 2024 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:06:58 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam In-Reply-To: References: <3404E053-FF6A-4C02-BF6B-C3CC6C7629E3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <013201da7999$be4bb240$3ae316c0$@gmail.com> Hi Natasha, The answer is that all this is much more complicated than it needs to be. I have actually been looking at transfer rules recently, and you have to look at the jurisdictions separately to see what they require. It's not as simple as getting your bar license in one state and just transferring it over to another with a keyboard stroke. Each state has different rules that govern the transfer process. I'm sorry. I know that's not a good answer, but it's what I discovered only after having to look into it myself. And I still don't know all the answers. I would personally not worry about it and just focus on the general idea that a UBE score will transfer more easily than scores from other jurisdictions. But really, I would recommend not focusing as much on this stuff when you choose a law school. Hope this helps a little, Julie -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 8:33 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Natasha Ishaq Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Law School & Uniform Bar Exam To clarify, does this mean that the UBE does not automatically allow for multi-state lisencure? I was under the impression that if I took the UBE, I would be able to practice law in one UBE jurisdiction and then practice in another if I so desired. Is this incorrect? Also, is this something I should be thinking about when deciding which law school to attend? Thanks, Natasha Ishaq On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 5:51 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > All: > > Just clarifying that UBE score transfer and reciprocity are two > different things. UBE score transfer is available to people who have > taken the UBE within a certain amount of time, have received a minimum > passing score, and have met any relevant state-specific bar > requirements. Reciprocity is typically tied to admission without > examination and requires a practitioner in good standing to have > practiced X out of the past Y years, etc. UBE score transfer and reciprocity are for two different sets of professionals. > I bring this up because it's an important distinction when researching > rules around and planning for multi-state licensure. > > Warmth, > Sanho > > > On Mar 16, 2024, at 8:26 AM, Seif-Eldeen Saqallah via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Good morning, Natasha, > > > > > > > > Generally, higher-ranked schools are better for the > > materials/resources they have and the name recognition. As long as > > the school is accredited, one can take a bar in any jurisdiction > > after graduation. (New York has an additional professional > > responsibility requirement class component thing that many, if not > > all, law schools can meet.) The Uniform bar exam (UBE) > is > > portable between states, so one need take that once and could > > transfer a score to another jurisdiction (reciprocity), depending on > > that jurisdiction’s requirements and the years it allows for one to > > transfer a score. Some are not UBE states, though and do not except > > transfers. The > bar > > exam is also changing, with some states adopting the next > > gen(eration) > exam. > > > > > > > > Honestly, I do not feel law school prepares one for the bar as well; > > that is why people take commercial bar prep courses afterwards. > > > > > > > > You do not need to attend a school in a UBE jurisdiction to take the UBE. > > But attending in a geography where you wish to practice might help > > you better know and network there. > > > > > > > > The NCBE website has good reciprocity resources, though much of it > > is in charts. > > > > > > > > I recommend choosing a school based on what it has to offer first, > > rather than on whether it be in a UBE state school. Happy to talk > > (phone or > email) > > further. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > Seif > > > > > > -- > > Seif Saqallah > > (Mr.) > > University of Michigan > > Juris Doctor/ > > Masters in Middle Eastern and North African Studies J.D/M.A Graduate > > | 2020 > > > > International Studies, Arabic Studies, and Judaic Studies; Law, > > Justice, and Social Change B.A | 2017 > > > > 248-325-7091 | seifs at umich.edu > > > > The information in this transmittal, including any attachments, is > > confidential and may contain privileged information protected from > > disclosure by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please > > notify > the > > sender immediately by reply email, delete this communication, and > > destroy all copies of the transmittal, including any attachments. > > Receipt of this message is not intended to waive any applicable legal privilege. > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > > for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail > .com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq200 > 1%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com From abin.dahal at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 15:34:30 2024 From: abin.dahal at gmail.com (Abin Dahal) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:34:30 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions to prepare for law school Message-ID: Hello- I have been admitted to a few law schools and am currently in the process of making a decision. Accessibility is one of my biggest concerns as I consider my choices. I would love to be able to talk with any current students and recent graduates to learn more about what their experience was with accessibility. I have primarily used Voiceover at my job and I am curious if it would behoove me to become proficient in JAWS before starting law school. I also want to participate in moot court so would it be imperative for me to also become very proficient with braille? I am curious how other blind/vision impaired students and lawyers navigate in court and moot court competitions. Thank you for your time. If you would like to reach out to me individually with general advice about this topic, please feel free to reach me directly at abin.dahal at gmail.com or 7039652308. Best, Abin -- Abin Dahal From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 18:25:34 2024 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 14:25:34 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Questions to prepare for law school In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Abin, congratulations on your acceptance to law school! That is very exciting and I am very happy for you. You are definitely on the right track in your thinking. It would definitely behoove you to become proficient in both JAWS and braille. More likely than not your future employer will use windows machines, which will require you to use JAWS. As you have alluded to, your oral advocacy will be greatly enhanced by your ability to have your notes at your finger tips by being able to read braille. Although we always advocate for greater accessibility, we also accept that we live in a visually oriented world that is ever changing. Therefore, to give yourself the best shot at being successful in law school and after, it would be incumbent upon you to equip yourself with the best toolkit possible. There are a few institutions that really stand out in equipping students such as yourself with the proper skills to be successful. Please feel free to reach out to me off thread if you would like to discuss further. Congratulations again! Best, Syed On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 11:35 AM Abin Dahal via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello- I have been admitted to a few law schools and am currently in the > process of making a decision. Accessibility is one of my biggest concerns > as I consider my choices. I would love to be able to talk with any current > students and recent graduates to learn more about what their experience was > with accessibility. > > I have primarily used Voiceover at my job and I am curious if it would > behoove me to become proficient in JAWS before starting law school. I also > want to participate in moot court so would it be imperative for me to also > become very proficient with braille? I am curious how other blind/vision > impaired students and lawyers navigate in court and moot court > competitions. > > Thank you for your time. If you would like to reach out to me individually > with general advice about this topic, please feel free to reach me directly > at abin.dahal at gmail.com or 7039652308. > > Best, > Abin > > -- > Abin Dahal > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > From sanho817 at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 22:58:32 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 18:58:32 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium: NABL Dinner Message-ID: All: Several people have expressed interest in getting together for dinner during the Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium this week. Let's plan to meet at 7pm Thursday after the reception. I propose Mira's Kitchen Collective on Charles Street, though am open to other suggestions if you have them. Please text or email if you'd like more information. Warmth and see everyone soon, Sanho From glnorman15 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 20 20:48:18 2024 From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 20:48:18 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Panel on 2 April at UB RA and the Bar Exam Message-ID: >From G. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. Dear Friends: Richard E. Shermanski, Esq. (my mentee, who has an invisible disability) and I will co-lead a panel taking place on 2 April at 6 P.M. This will take place physically as well as virtually at UB sch. Of l. We will explore the process for requesting accommodations to the bar exam as well as overall health and wellness, hoping you can join us. Our wonderful Lisa at the MSBA will be one of the co-speakers. If you are interested, Richard has the Zoom related info or the other info physically to attend. My wonderful new dog and I will be at the law school physically. From ThomasDukeman at outlook.com Wed Mar 20 22:25:50 2024 From: ThomasDukeman at outlook.com (Thomas Dukeman) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 22:25:50 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring Message-ID: Hello and good evening! I am just about done with my Associate of Science in Paralegal Studies degree and am wondering about the next step in my legal education. For the lawyers who hire on paralegals, would having just the Associate allow me to go on further up in rank by itself and the professional performance I deliver to the firm, or would there be a possibility I need to go on for my Bachelor degree to be able to move on up? I know there are different pay levels for paralegals to move through and I am wanting to know education wise if I will be limited in how far. If it does not hinder my progression, then that would be great and I would go on to apply for a paralegal position. Does it have to a be a legal studies or paralegal studies degree (I have encountered both names for a paralegal specific Bachelor) or would it need to be just any kind of Bachelor degree in something law related or just a Bachelor in general? The eventual goal is to become an actual attorney, so would for that be an eventuality, would it be worth my time to get a Bachelor degree before applying for law school? I am just trying to see what to do next to get where I want to. Thank you for your time, Thomas Dukeman From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 23:44:12 2024 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:44:12 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Thomas, Congrats on almost being done with your associates degree! I think you are definitely on the right track. A bachelor’s degree is required to apply to law school. However, you can get your bachelor’s degree in whatever subject you like. There are no pre law requirements other than a bachelor’s degree and taking an exam like the LSAT or GRE. Best of luck! -Syed On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 6:26 PM Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hello and good evening! > > I am just about done with my Associate of Science in Paralegal Studies > degree and am wondering about the next step in my legal education. For the > lawyers who hire on paralegals, would having just the Associate allow me to > go on further up in rank by itself and the professional performance I > deliver to the firm, or would there be a possibility I need to go on for my > Bachelor degree to be able to move on up? I know there are different pay > levels for paralegals to move through and I am wanting to know education > wise if I will be limited in how far. If it does not hinder my progression, > then that would be great and I would go on to apply for a paralegal > position. > > Does it have to a be a legal studies or paralegal studies degree (I have > encountered both names for a paralegal specific Bachelor) or would it need > to be just any kind of Bachelor degree in something law related or just a > Bachelor in general? > > The eventual goal is to become an actual attorney, so would for that be an > eventuality, would it be worth my time to get a Bachelor degree before > applying for law school? I am just trying to see what to do next to get > where I want to. > > Thank you for your time, > Thomas Dukeman > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > From jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 23:49:13 2024 From: jeffjayjohnston at gmail.com (J Johnston) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 16:49:13 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <044001da7b21$36e47510$a4ad5f30$@gmail.com> Oregon now allows paralegals to (mostly independently) perform legal work like an attorney--including appear in court. A lawyer must technically oversee the paralegal, and the practice is narrowly restricted to landlord/tenant law and (I think) domestic relations practice. www.osbar.org is the Oregon State Bar's website and it would have details about this new program. Portland Community College's paralegal studies website would probably also have a bunch of info. It is a controversial development that grew out of the greater need for access to justice. Jay -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 3:26 PM To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' Cc: Thomas Dukeman Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring Hello and good evening! I am just about done with my Associate of Science in Paralegal Studies degree and am wondering about the next step in my legal education. For the lawyers who hire on paralegals, would having just the Associate allow me to go on further up in rank by itself and the professional performance I deliver to the firm, or would there be a possibility I need to go on for my Bachelor degree to be able to move on up? I know there are different pay levels for paralegals to move through and I am wanting to know education wise if I will be limited in how far. If it does not hinder my progression, then that would be great and I would go on to apply for a paralegal position. Does it have to a be a legal studies or paralegal studies degree (I have encountered both names for a paralegal specific Bachelor) or would it need to be just any kind of Bachelor degree in something law related or just a Bachelor in general? The eventual goal is to become an actual attorney, so would for that be an eventuality, would it be worth my time to get a Bachelor degree before applying for law school? I am just trying to see what to do next to get where I want to. Thank you for your time, Thomas Dukeman _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/jeffjayjohnston%40gmai l.com From laurenbishop96 at icloud.com Thu Mar 21 01:45:34 2024 From: laurenbishop96 at icloud.com (Lauren Bishop) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 21:45:34 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Thomas, I think there’s a paralegal certification that you can get if you want just to become a paralegal. The caveat being that a lot of places require a bachelors degree because so many people have one. If you want to actually go to law school, you will have to get a bachelors degree. Based on my experience, it really doesn’t matter what the degree is in. I know people that came in With everything from the sciences to education to English, and All did well. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello and good evening! > > I am just about done with my Associate of Science in Paralegal Studies degree and am wondering about the next step in my legal education. For the lawyers who hire on paralegals, would having just the Associate allow me to go on further up in rank by itself and the professional performance I deliver to the firm, or would there be a possibility I need to go on for my Bachelor degree to be able to move on up? I know there are different pay levels for paralegals to move through and I am wanting to know education wise if I will be limited in how far. If it does not hinder my progression, then that would be great and I would go on to apply for a paralegal position. > > Does it have to a be a legal studies or paralegal studies degree (I have encountered both names for a paralegal specific Bachelor) or would it need to be just any kind of Bachelor degree in something law related or just a Bachelor in general? > > The eventual goal is to become an actual attorney, so would for that be an eventuality, would it be worth my time to get a Bachelor degree before applying for law school? I am just trying to see what to do next to get where I want to. > > Thank you for your time, > Thomas Dukeman > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com From nssulca at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 12:29:07 2024 From: nssulca at gmail.com (Natalia Sulca) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 08:29:07 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003901da7b8b$5e911d10$1bb35730$@gmail.com> Hello, I have a music digree and am going to law school. Good luck! Natalia -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Lauren Bishop via BlindLaw Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 9:46 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Lauren Bishop Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Education Requirements for Hiring Hi Thomas, I think there’s a paralegal certification that you can get if you want just to become a paralegal. The caveat being that a lot of places require a bachelors degree because so many people have one. If you want to actually go to law school, you will have to get a bachelors degree. Based on my experience, it really doesn’t matter what the degree is in. I know people that came in With everything from the sciences to education to English, and All did well. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Thomas Dukeman via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello and good evening! > > I am just about done with my Associate of Science in Paralegal Studies degree and am wondering about the next step in my legal education. For the lawyers who hire on paralegals, would having just the Associate allow me to go on further up in rank by itself and the professional performance I deliver to the firm, or would there be a possibility I need to go on for my Bachelor degree to be able to move on up? I know there are different pay levels for paralegals to move through and I am wanting to know education wise if I will be limited in how far. If it does not hinder my progression, then that would be great and I would go on to apply for a paralegal position. > > Does it have to a be a legal studies or paralegal studies degree (I have encountered both names for a paralegal specific Bachelor) or would it need to be just any kind of Bachelor degree in something law related or just a Bachelor in general? > > The eventual goal is to become an actual attorney, so would for that be an eventuality, would it be worth my time to get a Bachelor degree before applying for law school? I am just trying to see what to do next to get where I want to. > > Thank you for your time, > Thomas Dukeman > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/laurenbishop96%40icloud.com _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/nssulca%40gmail.com From maya.cheikh at live.law.cuny.edu Thu Mar 21 12:42:57 2024 From: maya.cheikh at live.law.cuny.edu (Maya cheikh) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:42:57 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I hope this message finds you well., I am reaching out to seek guidance and insights from those who have recently navigated the process of requesting accommodations for the bar exam, particularly in New York. If you have taken the bar exam in New York or any other jurisdiction in the recent past and have gone through the process of securing accommodations, would you be willing to share your experience? Specifically, I am looking for: 1. A sample of the accommodation request you submitted, including any specific language or evidence that you found to be effective. 2. Any insights or tips you gathered through the process that could benefit others in our community. 3. If applicable, feedback on how the accommodations were implemented and any areas where improvement is needed. Understanding that privacy is paramount, please feel free to anonymize any sensitive information in the documents or experiences you choose to share. Thank you in advance for your willingness to help and for the continued support. Warm regards, Maya Maya el Cheikh 6466290154 From glnorman15 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 21 14:05:41 2024 From: glnorman15 at hotmail.com (GL Norman) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:05:41 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Dialogue Process at the BMC Morrow Also Virtually Message-ID: >From G. Norman, Esq. L.L.M. Friends: An important convening process will take place morrow, Friday, either physically or virtually. It is a "tabletop exercise" related to disability integration and others from marginalized communities in disasters. Whole Community Registration link: https://baltometro-org.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZItde2grzsrE9JgFjuPPTqex-CddwHdJP6V#/registration From james.garret.mooney at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 16:18:41 2024 From: james.garret.mooney at gmail.com (James Garret Mooney) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:18:41 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Picking a jury Message-ID: <8FB001E3-D9AC-4FB7-AC9F-324771989E51@gmail.com> Hello, I was wondering if anybody had any tips or tricks for picking a jury? In my jurisdiction, the judge will typically ask the voir dire questions, and the members will stand up when a question applies to them. The attorneys are then to make notes Based off of the jurors answers. Afterwards, each jury member comes up to the judges bench and the attorneys can ask follow-up questions. Additionally, attorneys are given a packet containing jurors information, such as education, age, employment, status, and marital status. This is in a hardcopy form. I was wondering if other jurisdictions function similarly and if anybody has any ideas or accommodations you have used in the past, I appreciate everybody’s thoughts. From amelbialy90 at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 16:28:08 2024 From: amelbialy90 at gmail.com (Ahmed El Bialy) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:28:08 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Picking a jury In-Reply-To: <8FB001E3-D9AC-4FB7-AC9F-324771989E51@gmail.com> References: <8FB001E3-D9AC-4FB7-AC9F-324771989E51@gmail.com> Message-ID: <11F2FB9C-8269-4D69-83FF-C3AAC766E3A5@gmail.com> Hello. I’m happy to share whatever tips I picked up with you. My number 626-825-6347. Feel free to reach out. Please do not distribute the number. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2024, at 12:20 PM, James Garret Mooney via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anybody had any tips or tricks for picking a jury? In my jurisdiction, the judge will typically ask the voir dire questions, and the members will stand up when a question applies to them. The attorneys are then to make notes Based off of the jurors answers. Afterwards, each jury member comes up to the judges bench and the attorneys can ask follow-up questions. Additionally, attorneys are given a packet containing jurors information, such as education, age, employment, status, and marital status. This is in a hardcopy form. I was wondering if other jurisdictions function similarly and if anybody has any ideas or accommodations you have used in the past, I appreciate everybody’s thoughts. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/amelbialy90%40gmail.com From r.g.munro at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 16:52:00 2024 From: r.g.munro at gmail.com (Robert Munro) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:52:00 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Picking a jury In-Reply-To: <8FB001E3-D9AC-4FB7-AC9F-324771989E51@gmail.com> References: <8FB001E3-D9AC-4FB7-AC9F-324771989E51@gmail.com> Message-ID: <707357B9-B0AE-452A-9835-7A744D4E0F1B@gmail.com> I reach out to the Circuit Court clerk and ask him to provide the information for the jury panel as soon as possible: I try for a week or ten days, but three will do. That gives me a chance to look people up on social media, which helps prepare questions to ask during jury selection. The clerk can also help figure out how to let you know who the other attorney is striking. Ask if the bailiff will speak to you discreetly and write down your answer. The only other way is to pass a laptop back and forth where the Attorneys write in a word document or spreadsheet, then have the clerk transcribe the choices to the official paper form. The first way is faster and it works even better if you trust your client to help with the form, or if you have a coworker in court with you. Also, have some way ready for your client to pass you notes during the trial: a tablet or phone locked into a message or chat app. Having someone whisper in your ear while you’re trying to pay attention to witnesses, jurors, Etc distracts me. Sometimes, a client can tell when a particular juror doesn’t like him or isn’t buying an argument, so you need to have a way to get their thoughts in real time. They can also point out when a witness is lying. Good luck. Let us all know how it works out. Robert Munro R.G.Munro at gmail.com > On Mar 21, 2024, at 12:18, James Garret Mooney via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anybody had any tips or tricks for picking a jury? In my jurisdiction, the judge will typically ask the voir dire questions, and the members will stand up when a question applies to them. The attorneys are then to make notes Based off of the jurors answers. Afterwards, each jury member comes up to the judges bench and the attorneys can ask follow-up questions. Additionally, attorneys are given a packet containing jurors information, such as education, age, employment, status, and marital status. This is in a hardcopy form. I was wondering if other jurisdictions function similarly and if anybody has any ideas or accommodations you have used in the past, I appreciate everybody’s thoughts. > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/r.g.munro%40gmail.com From sanho817 at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 18:35:26 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:35:26 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium: NABL Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All: Just confirming that there's a reservation at Mera Kitchen Collective for tonight at 7pm. The restaurant is located at 1301 N. Calvert st, Baltimore, MD 21202. The registration's under Ronza's name, though they know my friends and will probably ask if you'd like to sit with the other blind people. I can't say enough good things about the collective. And they have food from many cuisines all made by local chefs. Truly can't go wrong. Warmth, Sanho > On Mar 19, 2024, at 6:58 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart wrote: > > All: > > Several people have expressed interest in getting together for dinner during the Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium this week. Let's plan to meet at 7pm Thursday after the reception. I propose Mira's Kitchen Collective on Charles Street, though am open to other suggestions if you have them. Please text or email if you'd like more information. > > Warmth and see everyone soon, > Sanho From kaybaycar at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 19:25:30 2024 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 15:25:30 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008a01da7bc5$896e9370$9c4bba50$@gmail.com> Hi Maya, I just took the UBE in February. But I did not take it in New York. I had to fill out a form stating which accommodations I needed and why. Although I sent in a personal statement, it was not necessary. When putting together your packet for requesting accommodations I would count on including the following: any documentation of accommodations in law school, any documentation of accommodations in college and graduate school, any accommodations letters you received concerning the LSAT, any accommodations letters you received for any other standardized test that you took in your life, a doctor's report, high school IEP records if you can find them, and a statement from your rehab agency if you are connected to one. I really wish I was kidding about this list, but except for additional standardized test records, that is a summary of everything I submitted. I recommend checking and double checking any information you are given on requesting accommodations in your state. My law school was able to help me fill out the accommodations form because it was not completely accessible, so if you need further guidance on filling out the forms, your law school might be helpful. I would recommend keeping personal statements concise and simple. For example, you can say "I must use a screen reader, such as Jaws for Windows, to read my exam because I cannot read print." I would then make similar statements about any other accommodation you request. I hope this helps, and good luck. It's definitely not a fun process. Julie -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Maya cheikh via BlindLaw Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 8:43 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Maya cheikh Subject: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations Dear Colleagues, I hope this message finds you well., I am reaching out to seek guidance and insights from those who have recently navigated the process of requesting accommodations for the bar exam, particularly in New York. If you have taken the bar exam in New York or any other jurisdiction in the recent past and have gone through the process of securing accommodations, would you be willing to share your experience? Specifically, I am looking for: 1. A sample of the accommodation request you submitted, including any specific language or evidence that you found to be effective. 2. Any insights or tips you gathered through the process that could benefit others in our community. 3. If applicable, feedback on how the accommodations were implemented and any areas where improvement is needed. Understanding that privacy is paramount, please feel free to anonymize any sensitive information in the documents or experiences you choose to share. Thank you in advance for your willingness to help and for the continued support. Warm regards, Maya Maya el Cheikh 6466290154 _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com From elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 22:54:34 2024 From: elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (Elizabeth Rouse) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 18:54:34 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium: NABL Dinner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update to the plan!!!! We are going to Hersh's, 1843 Light St. Elizabeth Rouse, She/her/hers Board Member | National Association of Blind Lawyers (NABL) blindlawyers.net Board Member | Performing Arts Division nfb-pad.org Elizabethrouse.nfb at gmail.com (563) 210-1854 “If you can see yourself as an artist, and you can see that your life is your own creation, then why not create the most beautiful story for yourself?” - Miguel Ruiz On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 2:36 PM Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > All: > > Just confirming that there's a reservation at Mera Kitchen Collective for > tonight at 7pm. The restaurant is located at 1301 N. Calvert st, > Baltimore, MD 21202 > . > > > The registration's under Ronza's name, though they know my friends and > will probably ask if you'd like to sit with the other blind people. I can't > say enough good things about the collective. And they have food from many > cuisines all made by local chefs. Truly can't go wrong. > > Warmth, > Sanho > > > On Mar 19, 2024, at 6:58 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart > wrote: > > > > All: > > > > Several people have expressed interest in getting together for dinner > during the Jacobus tenBroek Law Symposium this week. Let's plan to meet at > 7pm Thursday after the reception. I propose Mira's Kitchen Collective on > Charles Street, though am open to other suggestions if you have them. > Please text or email if you'd like more information. > > > > Warmth and see everyone soon, > > Sanho > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/elizabethrouse.nfb%40gmail.com > From natel.appledorn at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 12:34:03 2024 From: natel.appledorn at gmail.com (Nate Appledorn) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 06:34:03 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT Message-ID: Greetings All: I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep encountering a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning questions. I have attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, even when double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, or should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and frustration? Best wishes, Nate From blindstein at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 14:54:57 2024 From: blindstein at gmail.com (Justin Harford) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 07:54:57 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10FAD8FC-3124-42D6-9C82-9F1C13C94B32@gmail.com> I never finished this exam, but I did study for it a while back and found that my time on these problems improved quite a bit by simply doing lots of them. I’m not sure how many practice problems you have done, but there are books out there that have several practice exams, and I’d recommend doing all of them. I actually thought that they had eliminated that from the exam. I assume you’re talking about the logic games. Regards Justin Harford Oregon Bell Academy Coordinator > On Mar 22, 2024, at 5:35 AM, Nate Appledorn via BlindLaw wrote: > > Greetings All: > > > I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep > encountering a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning questions. I > have attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, even > when double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, > or should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and > frustration? > > > > Best wishes, > > Nate > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com From kaybaycar at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 16:06:16 2024 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 12:06:16 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013a01da7c72$df1aea50$9d50bef0$@gmail.com> Hi Nate, I used a Braille Note to make lists for the logic games. It worked well for me. I do also recommend completing lots and lots of practice problems. You will get more comfortable with them the more you do. You can also experiment with different methods for working out the logic games. I know people have used magnet boards, a Braille writer, and even a braille note taker. You are a couple months out, so maybe for the next couple weeks, don't stress about the time, and just focus on working the problems and getting the hang of them. Then try to add in the time constraints once you are more comfortable. Hope this helps, Julie -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nate Appledorn via BlindLaw Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 8:34 AM To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org Cc: Nate Appledorn Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT Greetings All: I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep encountering a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning questions. I have attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, even when double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, or should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and frustration? Best wishes, Nate _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com From abin.dahal at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 17:51:11 2024 From: abin.dahal at gmail.com (Abin Dahal) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 13:51:11 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT In-Reply-To: <013a01da7c72$df1aea50$9d50bef0$@gmail.com> References: <013a01da7c72$df1aea50$9d50bef0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I took this exam last year and want to follow up on what Julie suggested. Don't worry about time at first. Do you feel like you have a good conceptual grasp of Analytical Reasoning? If you start completing full sections untimed with 0-1 errors, and you're able to do so without relying on method of elimination per question then that's a good barometer for your mastery of the concepts. Then it is just a matter of doing as many problems as you can to improve your timing. If you get to this point, no harm in taking both the June and later LSATs so that you can use your best score. If however, you feel like analytical reasoning will not help you put your best foot forward, that's ok! Lot of people feel that way about that section. In that case, I would recommend studying logical reasoning and reading comprehension as much as you can to do well in the August exam and beyond. If you're applying this fall for the 2025 class, you're definitely fine to take any exam August - October. Later ones are fine too but anything in that window will be timely enough for early application submissions for early decision or scholarship applications. Some people will say that logical reasoning and reading comprehension are hard to improve but I would disagree. Those sections are very learnable and possible to master with the right training and practice. Hope that helps! Best, Abin Best, Abin On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:08 PM Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Nate, > > I used a Braille Note to make lists for the logic games. It worked well for > me. I do also recommend completing lots and lots of practice problems. You > will get more comfortable with them the more you do. > > You can also experiment with different methods for working out the logic > games. I know people have used magnet boards, a Braille writer, and even a > braille note taker. You are a couple months out, so maybe for the next > couple weeks, don't stress about the time, and just focus on working the > problems and getting the hang of them. Then try to add in the time > constraints once you are more comfortable. > > Hope this helps, > > Julie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Nate Appledorn > via > BlindLaw > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 8:34 AM > To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org > Cc: Nate Appledorn > Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT > > Greetings All: > > > I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep > encountering > a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning questions. I have > attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, even when > double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, or > should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and > frustration? > > > > Best wishes, > > Nate > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/abin.dahal%40gmail.com > -- Abin Dahal From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 19:26:19 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 15:26:19 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Nate, I took the LSAT last November and this past January. I struggled with the analytical reasonin section a well. I actually need up requesting more additional time when I realized that double tme was not enough. I as able to request 150% extended time and I was granted the accommodation. I definitely recommend giving that a try. I definitely recommend taking the exam in August. Save yourself the headache. If you are planning to apply to law school this coming fall, you can take the LSAT anywhere from August-November. To be honest, part of me regrets not waiting until this August to take the exam. As long as you feel comfortable with reading comprehension and logical reasoning, then moving your exam to August may not be such a bad idea. Hope this helps! Best Wishes, Natasha Ishaq On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:35 AM Nate Appledorn via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Greetings All: > > > I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep > encountering a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning questions. I > have attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, even > when double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, > or should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and > frustration? > > > > Best wishes, > > Nate > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq2001%40gmail.com > From oduncan821 at gmail.com Sat Mar 23 05:19:00 2024 From: oduncan821 at gmail.com (omar duncan) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:19:00 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Analytical Reasoning Section on the LSAT In-Reply-To: <10FAD8FC-3124-42D6-9C82-9F1C13C94B32@gmail.com> References: <10FAD8FC-3124-42D6-9C82-9F1C13C94B32@gmail.com> Message-ID: After June it is out the lg section On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 7:56 AM Justin Harford via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > I never finished this exam, but I did study for it a while back and found > that my time on these problems improved quite a bit by simply doing lots of > them. I’m not sure how many practice problems you have done, but there are > books out there that have several practice exams, and I’d recommend doing > all of them. I actually thought that they had eliminated that from the > exam. I assume you’re talking about the logic games. > > Regards > Justin Harford > Oregon Bell Academy Coordinator > > > > On Mar 22, 2024, at 5:35 AM, Nate Appledorn via BlindLaw < > blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > > > Greetings All: > > > > > > I am currently scheduled to take the LSAT this June, but I keep > > encountering a lingering problem with the analytical reasoning > questions. I > > have attempted to utilize Excel, but I just keep running out of time, > even > > when double time is allocated. Can you offer any advice for this section, > > or should I move my exam date to August to save myself the headache and > > frustration? > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Nate > > _______________________________________________ > > BlindLaw mailing list > > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/blindstein%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/oduncan821%40gmail.com > From cdborne at gmail.com Sat Mar 23 13:44:06 2024 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:44:06 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Solo attorney client management systems Message-ID: <7E82D555-0570-4150-9FC3-0F7EE7DC8FAE@gmail.com> Good morning, I have a quick question for those attorneys who are solo practitioners or have very small firms. I am in a state planning attorney and am trying to crawl into the 21st-century. I see many post on Facebook and other outlets regarding client management systems or CRMs. I currently use decision vault as my intake portal. This has been nearly 100% accessible. It allows me to have a client create their own online portal for filling out the intake questionnaire and to upload and download documents as needed. I wish it was a little more versatile and that it would allow for electronic signing of engagement letters and that it could integrate with West laws Lipman's estate planning, which I use. However, the use of a CRM would really assist in managing client files, client emails, possibly integrating payments or invoicing and that electronic documents signing mentioned above. By the way, I use LawPay as a payment platform for clients and Calendly as my scheduling platform. I guess I would really like to find some type of client management software that could integrate successfully with what I am currently using (I. E., Decision vault, Calendly, and LawPay, as well as West law if possible). I've heard of platforms like Cleo Grow, Lawmattics, Lawcus, My Case, etc., But I can't find any information on the Internet regarding their accessibility with screen reading software such as JAWS. Anyone that has any personal experience and would be willing to share, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel and go through a half dozen demos if it's not necessary. Thank you very much! Craig Sent from Craig's iPhone From cdborne at gmail.com Sat Mar 23 15:42:47 2024 From: cdborne at gmail.com (cdborne at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 11:42:47 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Client Management Software In-Reply-To: References: <10FAD8FC-3124-42D6-9C82-9F1C13C94B32@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601da7d38$c1654110$442fc330$@gmail.com> Good morning, I have a quick question for those attorneys who are solo practitioners or have very small firms. I am in a state planning attorney and am trying to crawl into the 21st-century. I see many post on Facebook and other outlets regarding client management systems or CRMs. I currently use decision vault as my intake portal. This has been nearly 100% accessible. It allows me to have a client create their own online portal for filling out the intake questionnaire and to upload and download documents as needed. I wish it was a little more versatile and that it would allow for electronic signing of engagement letters and that it could integrate with West laws Lipman's estate planning, which I use. However, the use of a CRM would really assist in managing client files, client emails, possibly integrating payments or invoicing and that electronic documents signing mentioned above. By the way, I use LawPay as a payment platform for clients and Calendly as my scheduling platform. I guess I would really like to find some type of client management software that could integrate successfully with what I am currently using (I. E., Decision vault, Calendly, and LawPay, as well as West law if possible). I've heard of platforms like Cleo Grow, Lawmattics, Lawcus, My Case, etc., But I can't find any information on the Internet regarding their accessibility with screen reading software such as JAWS. Anyone that has any personal experience and would be willing to share, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel and go through a half dozen demos if it's not necessary. Thank you very much! Craig From seifs at umich.edu Sat Mar 23 19:42:01 2024 From: seifs at umich.edu (Seif-Eldeen Saqallah) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 15:42:01 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations In-Reply-To: <008a01da7bc5$896e9370$9c4bba50$@gmail.com> References: <008a01da7bc5$896e9370$9c4bba50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, Maya, If helpful, I attached a sample accommodations personal statement and grant (pdf and txt files). I took the UBE in 2020. NY's accommodations request packet was more accessible than most (form-fillable pdf); I think they also updated it since then. After submitting your application, I recommend reaching out to Mark Kaplowitz (or the accommodations person--it was he at the time). You should also receive accommodations for the NYLE, including an accessible copy of the law materials pdf. I am happy to discuss accommodations and even bar prep; let me know if a phonecall is helpful. Sincerely, Seif -------------- next part -------------- ��[Name, address, and Date Redacted.] Accommodations Personal Statement To whom it may concern: My name is [redacted]; I have been completely blind almost my entire life. I have had no light perception since infancy (approximately [year redacted]) due to stage 5 retinopathy of prematurity caused by medical malpractice. This condition prevents me from reading or writing any printed material and otherwise interpreting anything that requires vision. As my condition is unchanging, all medical documentation continues to remain valid and accurate. Since the Bar is the most important exam I have yet to take, I respectfully request the following accommodations, historically established through precedent and documented throughout my life, to compensate for my visual deficit. In accordance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 as amended (42 U.S.C.S. � 12101 et seq.), applicable regulations, and state case law, I respectfully request the following: (1) A Screen-readable Microsoft Word exam, readable by a computer with the screen-reader software Jaws 2020 or newer, to take the exam. This format should have headings to facilitate finding content and delineating between separate questions and sections. (2) Extended double time (up to and including +100%) to provide sufficient time to read, process, and answer the exam questions. (3) The use of a laptop computer (I can bring my own) equipped with the screen-reader Jaws 2020 or newer to take the exam. (4) The use of headphones (I can bring my own) to listen to the exam. This ensures accurate audio fidelity, minimizes most auditory errors, and decreases the need to constantly adjust the volume from the computer's speaker. (5) A private room in which to take the exam. This allows me to hear JAWS clearly and reduces distractions for both me and other test-takers, particularly when a scribe verbally transfers my answers to the scantron form. (6) The use of an electronic brailler,  Braillenote (I can bring my own) on all parts (written and multiple-choice) of the exam, to convert, read, and answer the exam. The Braillenote, an accommodation affirmed, offered, and granted by many testing organizations, allows me to write and read my answers to the MPT and MEE questions directly in braille as I have been doing throughout my educational career. There is no substitute for being able to read one's answers oneself, in my case with my own hands; reading and writing my answers in braille on the Braillenote gives me this ability. It also minimizes the time I require to move between many windows and documents on the computer, keeping the exam and answers on separate platforms. (7) Similarly, the ability to electronically take notes (on the Braillenote) during the multiple-choice parts of the examination. This substitutes for cited written notes, highlighting, underlining, ETC. This allows me to verify my selected answers before dictating them to the scribe. Dictating my notes to a scribe who would then repeat them to me is not an efficient or feasible option. (8) The use of a blank flash drive (I can bring my own) to convert and transfer answers between computer and Braillenote. The Braillenote processes in its proprietary KWB format; consequently, I will need a medium by which to transfer the converted braille-to-text files to the computer and upload thereafter. (9) Additional time (not counted against or part of the extended testing time) to convert and format the exam and resulting answers into Braille/Text at the beginning and end of the exam. (Converting to other file types (e.g., txt) is sometimes necessary to remove or fix formatting errors, and a few minutes are required to export from braille KWB to a text file.) (10) The use of a reader/scribe/amanuensis to complete the scantron sheet, as I cannot bubble in the answers without sighted assistance. (11) Waiver of the laptop secure software, as it is not screen-reader friendly and prevents me from accessing both answers and exam simultaneously. (12) Spellcheck and grammar check, including the ability to correct detected errors and verify those words that JAWS and braille do not accurately speak and convert. (13) Religious (Muslim) Prayer breaks for the five daily prayers; food and bathroom breaks for this multi-day exam (see attached letter). Supporting my request, I have enclosed medical documentation and previously received accommodations, including those from the University of [Name Redacted], College Board (ACT, AP, and SAT), LSAC (LSAT), NCBE (MPRE), and primary scholastic education (school IEPs). I thank you for your understanding. Appreciatively yours, most sincerely, [Name and Date Redacted.] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Accommodations Personal Statement Sample.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 75107 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Accommodations Grant Sample.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 191663 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ��New York State Board of Law Examiners Diane F. Bosse, Chair Bryan R. Williams Robert S. McMillen E. Leo Milonas Michael Colodner CORPORATE PLAZA-BUILDING 3 254 WASHINGTON AVENUE EXTENSION ALBANY, N.Y. 12203-5195 518-453-5990 FAX 518-4525729 http://www.nybarexam.org Executive Director [Redacted], 2020 Via E-mail [Name, Address, and Date Redacted.] Re: Determination - REVISED Application for Accommodations Dear [Redacted]: As a threshold matter, since you have indicated that you are considering applying for the September 2020 New York State bar examination (rescheduled from July 2020) please note the following announcement on the Board of Law Examiners' website: Our efforts to seat as many candidates as possible remain ongoing .However, given current conditions in New York - including ongoing public health concerns, social distancing guidelines, and limitations on large gatherings - it is clear that our seating capacity for the September exam will be sharply limited, and therefore the Board likely will not be able to seat all applicants who wish to take the exam. As a result, the application process for the September exam will proceed on a rolling basis as space permits. From Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 12:00 A.M. through Friday, May 15 at 11:59 P.M., applications will be accepted from any J.D. or LL.M. candidate who is sitting for the bar examination for the first time and who has graduated (or will graduate in Spring 2020) from one of the fifteen law schools located in New York State...Given the constraints caused by the public health crisis, candidates are strongly encouraged to consider sitting for the UBE at a later date or in other jurisdictions that may be better positioned to accommodate test-takers. After careful review of your Application for Test Accommodations for the February 2021 New York State bar examination (i.e. the UBE) and the June 2020 New York Law Exam (NYLE) the Board has agreed to grant, in part, your application. Uniform Bar Examination (UBE) You will receive the following reasonable accommodations on the UBE: " Double time (100% extra) for each session of the examination. The examination will be held in accordance with the attached schedule. Please note that the order of your examination components will be MEE, MBE, and then MPT. " Seating in a private room away from the general testing population with a proctor. Page 2 " Board will provide candidate with MEE, MPT, and MBE on external USB flash drives in Microsoft Word format. Proctor will monitor use. Candidate will be required sign Electronic MBE Use Agreement in advance of the exam. " Permission to use candidate's laptop with JAWS for UBE. All notes and study materials must be removed from laptop prior to the exam. No pre-recorded macros may be used during the exam. Board will inspect laptop before and after exam. " Permission to bring/use headphones and/or microphone for use with laptop. " Candidate will submit answers to MEE and MPT via USB drive that Board staff will provide instead of ExamSoft. Candidate is responsible for saving essays onto the USB drive. " Board will provide candidate with a scribe who will record candidate's answers to MBE questions on the scantron answer sheet. " Permission to bring and use candidate's electronic braille reading and writing device for all parts of the UBE (MEE, MPT, and MBE). Candidate may bring and use a blank drive for use with braille device. Candidate may use Microsoft Word's spell and grammar check while composing responses to MEE and MPT. Your testing center will be determined at a subsequent date. You will receive a notice from the Board with your testing center and where to report. These accommodations are awarded for this examination only. Should you request accommodations for a future examination, your request will be re-evaluated. Please note that the New York State bar examination now consists entirely of the Uniform Bar Examination (UBE). Details are on our UBE webpage, located at www.nybarexam.org/UBE/UBE.html. This letter relates only to your test accommodations. It does not confirm that you will be able to apply for the UBE in New York due to limitations on seating that may be imposed as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. It also does not confirm that you are registered or otherwise eligible to sit for the bar examination. Candidates who fail to complete all registration and eligibility requirements that apply to them will not be permitted to sit for the bar examination, regardless of whether they have been awarded test accommodations. You may use the allotted time in the manner set forth in the enclosed Schedule. All testing rooms are in close proximity to restrooms. Your assigned seat number will be on your Seating Ticket which must be accessed on our website approximately two weeks prior to the examination. You will need your BOLE ID and date of birth to access your Seating Ticket. You must bring your Seating Ticket and a government issued photo ID with you to the examination. The Board's Security Policy will be strictly enforced so you should thoroughly review it by Page 3 visiting our website, located at www.nybarexam.org, to familiarize yourself with what may and may not be brought into the examination room. The Security Policy is periodically changed, so we advise you to carefully review it the day before the examination starts so that you are reviewing the most recent version. Notwithstanding the Security Policy, you may bring any additional items that are listed on this letter as accommodations for a disability. Any non- permitted item(s) brought to the exam site must be dropped off in the designated Personal Belongings area and left AT YOUR OWN RISK before you report to your exam room. Please allot enough time to be in your seat by your Report Time as the oral instructions and exam start time will not be delayed if you report late. New York Law Exam (NYLE): June 11, 2020 You will receive the following reasonable accommodations on the NYLE given on the date set forth above: " Double time (100% extra). Your exam will commence at 12:00PM ET and will end at 4:00PM ET. You will have a total of 4 hours to work on the NYLE. " You will be taking the NYLE at https://www.nybarapply.org/NYLE/ instead of using ExamSoft. Please monitor your time carefully. Any answers recorded on the website before the start time or after the end time set forth in this letter will not be counted in your final score. Do not expect the website to automatically close at the end of your alotted time. These accommodations are awarded for the stated NYLE only. Should you request accommodations for a future administration of the NYLE, your request will be re-evaluated. In addition, this letter relates only to your test accommodations. Candidates must still timely complete the New York Law Course (NYLC) and timely register for the NYLE and follow all subsequent instructions, or else will not be eligible to take the examination. Please note: If you take the NYLE with these accommodations and fail, you must submit a re-application and any required supporting documentation by the applicable deadline for any subsequent NYLE, or else you will not receive testing accommodations. The Board has denied your request for additional breaks, as your request for breaks does not appear to be based on your documented disability. Moreover, in comparing the supporting letter from [Name and Date Redacted] to the Schedule, it appears that all required prayer times can be observed before 8:30 AM, after 4:00 PM, or during the lunch break (12:00 Noon to 1:00 PM). Food and beverage may be consumed during the testing session under the Board's Security Policy. The Board's Guidelines for documentation of disabilities may be found in the Handbook for Requesting Test Accommodations (http://www.nybarexam.org/Docs/NTAHandBook.pdf). Page 4 Section 6000.7 (e) of the Rules of the State Board of Law Examiners, a copy of which is enclosed, provides for an appeal of the Board's decision. Should you decide to appeal the decision, it must be in the form of a verified petition, bearing your original signature and the original notarization of your signature. Faxing the appeal is not sufficient to take an appeal. The original appeal petition (and any accompanying documents) must be received in the Board's office by the deadline. In your petition you must swear that its contents are truthful and accurate to the best of your ability under penalty of perjury. Again, the petition must contain your original signature and original notarization of your signature. The appeal may not present any new diagnosis or disability that was not identified in your application. Should you decide to appeal this decision it must be received in the Board's office no later than May 28, 2020. Should you timely appeal this decision, you do not have to return the enclosed Affidavit of Accommodations. If the appeal is granted in whole or in part, you will receive a revised Affidavit to return. If the appeal is denied, you will be given an opportunity to return the enclosed Affidavit with a new deadline. If you choose to accept the accommodations awarded in this letter, please carefully review the enclosed Schedule and Affidavit of Accommodations. Sign the Affidavit before a notary public and return it to our office by May 28, 2020 (keep the Schedule and make a copy of the Affidavit for your records). You must return the original affidavit to our office by the stated deadline or you will be at risk of having the offered accommodations withdrawn and being removed from the accommodated testing site. Please contact us if you have any questions or if we can be of any further assistance. Sincerely, Mark D. Kaplowitz Senior Attorney Enclosures (Synopsis, Board Rule 6000.7 [e]) SCHEDULE for the Uniform Bar Examination (UBE) Double time (100% extra) for the MEE and MPT Double time (100% extra) for the MBE for: [Redacted] DATE SESSION TIME SESSION CONTENT TEST TIME Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2021 Seated By: 8:30AM 9:00AM-12:00PM Secure Lunch 1:00PM-4:00PM MEE Questions 1-6 (all day) 3 hours Secure Lunch 3 hours Wednesday, Feb. 24, 2021 Seated By: 8:30AM 9:00AM-12:00PM Secure Lunch 1:00PM-4:00PM MBE AM (1-100) (all day) 3 hours Secure Lunch 3 hours Thursday, Feb. 25, 2021 Seated By: 8:30AM 9:00AM-12:00PM Secure Lunch 1:00PM-4:00PM MBE PM (101-200) (all day) 3 hours Secure Lunch 3 hours Friday, Feb. 26, 2021 Seated By: 8:30AM 9:00AM-12:00PM Secure Lunch 1:00PM-4:00PM MPT 1 & 2 (all day) 3 hours Secure Lunch 3 hours When to Arrive: You must be in your assigned seat no later than the  Seated By time listed above (30 minutes prior to your scheduled session start time). The oral instructions will proceed whether you are present or not. Any time lost due to late arrival  including time spent setting up your laptop or completing required forms  will not be added to the test session. Taking Breaks: You will not be given additional time for breaks. Any breaks you take during the test session will be on-the-clock. You must also remain in the secure testing area, and you may not discuss the exam with anyone, or access any prohibited items like notes or cell phones. Lunch: Each day there will be a secure, proctored lunch break between the morning and afternoon sessions. Please review the above schedule carefully. You must bring your lunch with you as you will not be allowed to leave the secure exam site, even during the lunch break. During the lunch break, you may not discuss the exam with anyone or access any prohibited items like notes or cell phones. Microwaves and refrigerators are not available at the test site. You are permitted to bring a cooler or tote bag to transport your food and beverage items, but these must be stored in the Personal Belongings Area. If you wish to access your food and beverage items during the lunch break, a proctor will escort you. Laptop Bags: Laptop candidates may bring their laptops only on the day(s) when they take the MEE and MPT. If you use a backpack or laptop bag to bring items to the examination, it must be stored in the Personal Belongings Area. Restrooms: To maintain a secure testing site, a proctor will be placed inside each restroom. STATE OF } AFFIDAVIT OF ACCOMMODATIONS COUNTY OF } ss: Affidavit Instructions: CITY OF } 1. Sign the Affidavit in the presence of a notary. Keep a copy for your records. You MAY fax a copy to 518-452-5729. 2. You MUST mail the original to the New York State Board of Law Examiners (Attn: Test Accommodations Coordinator). [redacted], being duly sworn, deposes and says: A. I agree to accept the following test accommodations on the February 2021 New York State bar examination: " Double time (100% extra) for each session of the examination. The examination will be held in accordance with the attached schedule. Please note that the order of your examination components will be MEE, MBE, and then MPT. " Seating in a private room away from the general testing population with a proctor. " Board will provide candidate with MEE, MPT, and MBE on external USB flash drives in Microsoft Word format. Proctor will monitor use. Candidate will be required sign Electronic MBE Use Agreement in advance of the exam. " Permission to use candidate's laptop with JAWS for UBE. All notes and study materials must be removed from laptop prior to the exam. No pre-recorded macros may be used during the exam. Board will inspect laptop before and after exam. " Permission to bring/use headphones and/or microphone for use with laptop. " Candidate will submit answers to MEE and MPT via USB drive that Board staff will provide instead of ExamSoft. Candidate is responsible for saving essays onto the USB drive. " Board will provide candidate with a scribe who will record candidate's answers to MBE questions on the scantron answer sheet. " Permission to bring and use candidate's electronic braille reading and writing device for all parts of the UBE (MEE, MPT, and MBE). Candidate may bring and use a blank drive for use with braille device. Candidate may use Microsoft Word's spell and grammar check while composing responses to MEE and MPT. I UNDERSTAND that I must be in my exam seat no later than 30 minutes prior to each test session, and that the session start time will NOT be delayed if I arrive late; that the oral instructions will proceed as scheduled whether I am present or not, even if there are no other candidates in the exam room; that any time lost due to late arrival  including time spent setting up my laptop or completing required forms  will NOT be added to the test session; and that if I arrive more than 30 minutes after the start of any session, I will NOT be admitted to that session or any subsequent session. I agree to accept the following test accommodation(s) for the June 2020 New York Law Exam (NYLE): " Double time (100% extra). Your exam will commence at 12:00PM ET and will end at 4:00PM ET. You will have a total of 4 hours to work on the NYLE. " You will be taking the NYLE at https://www.nybarapply.org/NYLE/ instead of using ExamSoft. Please monitor your time carefully. Any answers recorded on the website before the start time or after the end time set forth in this letter will not be counted in your final score. Do not expect the website to automatically close at the end of your alotted time. B. I will receive a total of 6 hours of test time on the MEE, a total of 6 hours of test time for the two MPT items, and a total of 12 hours of test time on the MBE, for a grand total of 24 hours of test time for the New York State bar examination (i.e. UBE); I will receive a total of 4 hours of test time on the NYLE; C These accommodations are necessitated by my disability(ies); [Redacted] [Redacted] From 8:00 AM on Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2021, through 4:30 PM on Friday, Feb. 26, 2021, 1 will not discuss th examination, its subject matter, questions or answers orally, in writing or electronically with any person, nor will seek, obtain or give information concerning the examination, its subject matter, questions or answers from or to an person or source, including but not limited to internet sites, other examination candidates, tutors, or bar review representatives; E. F. G. I will not use any items prohibited by the Board's Security Policy during the examination or secure (proctored) lunc breaks, except for any items expressly awarded as test accommodations; 1 understand that any violation of this agreement may result in the institution of fraud and dishonesty charges pursuan to Board Rule 6000,13; and I have read and understand everything contained in my I >ctcrmination. Sworn to before me this Notary Public Board Rule [22 NYCRR �] 6000.7 Test Accommodations for Applicants with Disabilities (e) Appeals. Any applicant whose application is denied in whole or in part may appeal the determination by filing a verified petition responding to the Board's stated reason(s) for denial. The petition must attest to the truth and accuracy of the statements made therein, be made under penalty of perjury and be notarized. The petition may be supported by a report from the applicant's examiner clarifying facts and identifying documentation, if any, which the Board allegedly overlooked or misapprehended. The appeal may not present any new diagnosis or disability that was not identified in the applicant's application. Original signed and notarized appeals must be received at the Board's office no later than 14 days from the date of the Board's determination. The Board shall decide such appeal and shall notify the applicant of its decision prior to the date of the examination for which the accommodations were requested. From maya.cheikh at live.law.cuny.edu Sat Mar 23 19:51:01 2024 From: maya.cheikh at live.law.cuny.edu (Maya cheikh) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:51:01 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations In-Reply-To: References: <008a01da7bc5$896e9370$9c4bba50$@gmail.com> Message-ID: THANK YOU. looking it through now. Maya el Cheikh 6466290154 ________________________________ From: Seif-Eldeen Saqallah Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:42:01 PM To: Blind Law Mailing List ; Maya cheikh Cc: Julie A. Orozco Subject: Re: [blindLaw] Request for guidance on ube accommodations You don't often get email from seifs at umich.edu. Learn why this is important ***ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.*** Hello, Maya, If helpful, I attached a sample accommodations personal statement and grant (pdf and txt files). I took the UBE in 2020. NY's accommodations request packet was more accessible than most (form-fillable pdf); I think they also updated it since then. After submitting your application, I recommend reaching out to Mark Kaplowitz (or the accommodations person--it was he at the time). You should also receive accommodations for the NYLE, including an accessible copy of the law materials pdf. I am happy to discuss accommodations and even bar prep; let me know if a phonecall is helpful. Sincerely, Seif From sanho817 at gmail.com Sun Mar 24 07:42:39 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:42:39 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Client Management Software In-Reply-To: <002601da7d38$c1654110$442fc330$@gmail.com> References: <002601da7d38$c1654110$442fc330$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Good morning, The only commercial platforms with which I have experience are Clio and LegalServer. Both are now accessible, though the latter is only used by non'Profits. Warmth, Sanho > On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:43 AM, Craig Borne via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good morning, > I have a quick question for those attorneys who are solo practitioners or have very small firms. I am in a state planning attorney and am trying to crawl into the 21st-century. I see many post on Facebook and other outlets regarding client management systems or CRMs. I currently use decision vault as my intake portal. This has been nearly 100% accessible. It allows me to have a client create their own online portal for filling out the intake questionnaire and to upload and download documents as needed. I wish it was a little more versatile and that it would allow for electronic signing of engagement letters and that it could integrate with West laws Lipman's estate planning, which I use. > However, the use of a CRM would really assist in managing client files, client emails, possibly integrating payments or invoicing and that electronic documents signing mentioned above. By the way, I use LawPay as a payment platform for clients and Calendly as my scheduling platform. > I guess I would really like to find some type of client management software that could integrate successfully with what I am currently using (I. E., Decision vault, Calendly, and LawPay, as well as West law if possible). > I've heard of platforms like Cleo Grow, Lawmattics, Lawcus, My Case, etc., But I can't find any information on the Internet regarding their accessibility with screen reading software such as JAWS. > Anyone that has any personal experience and would be willing to share, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel and go through a half dozen demos if it's not necessary. > Thank you very much! > Craig > > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From cdborne at gmail.com Sun Mar 24 13:56:03 2024 From: cdborne at gmail.com (Craig Borne) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 09:56:03 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Client Management Software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B4F72BE-64ED-462F-9BF6-35DCE6233260@gmail.com> Thank you, Sanho. Do you recall which version of Cleo that you used? I think there is something called Cleo grow and some other variation that escapes me. Craig Sent from Craig's iPhone > On Mar 24, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > > Good morning, > > The only commercial platforms with which I have experience are Clio and LegalServer. Both are now accessible, though the latter is only used by non'Profits. > > Warmth, > Sanho > >> On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:43 AM, Craig Borne via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Good morning, >> I have a quick question for those attorneys who are solo practitioners or have very small firms. I am in a state planning attorney and am trying to crawl into the 21st-century. I see many post on Facebook and other outlets regarding client management systems or CRMs. I currently use decision vault as my intake portal. This has been nearly 100% accessible. It allows me to have a client create their own online portal for filling out the intake questionnaire and to upload and download documents as needed. I wish it was a little more versatile and that it would allow for electronic signing of engagement letters and that it could integrate with West laws Lipman's estate planning, which I use. >> However, the use of a CRM would really assist in managing client files, client emails, possibly integrating payments or invoicing and that electronic documents signing mentioned above. By the way, I use LawPay as a payment platform for clients and Calendly as my scheduling platform. >> I guess I would really like to find some type of client management software that could integrate successfully with what I am currently using (I. E., Decision vault, Calendly, and LawPay, as well as West law if possible). >> I've heard of platforms like Cleo Grow, Lawmattics, Lawcus, My Case, etc., But I can't find any information on the Internet regarding their accessibility with screen reading software such as JAWS. >> Anyone that has any personal experience and would be willing to share, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel and go through a half dozen demos if it's not necessary. >> Thank you very much! >> Craig >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/cdborne%40gmail.com From rosesloan920 at gmail.com Sun Mar 24 14:29:39 2024 From: rosesloan920 at gmail.com (Rose Warner) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2024 08:29:39 -0600 Subject: [blindLaw] Quarterly Connection Topic Suggestions Message-ID: <317BFFF0-FA93-4B7B-AD5C-AD7AFFC975C0@gmail.com> Greetings NABL Students and Young Professionals - This is a reminder to please send any topic suggestions for our quarterly connection to Rose at RoseSloan920 at gmail.com. Our next Quarterly Connection will be on Wed. April 17 at 8ET, 7CT, 6MT, 5PT. We will be taking your suggestions until March 29. We look forward to connecting with you next month. Best, Rose and Elizabeth National Association of Blind Lawyers Sent from my iPhone From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 12:00:00 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks Message-ID: Hi All, I reaching out with two questions. First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there for externships, clerkships, etc. How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about choosing a la school? My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law school? I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone is willing or able to offer. Thank you so much! Warm Regards, Natasha From syedrizvinfb at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 13:23:57 2024 From: syedrizvinfb at gmail.com (Syed Rizvi) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:23:57 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Natasha, Congrats on getting into law school! It is great that you are being so proactive and considering all of these very important factors. I’ll address your second question first. Acquiring materials for law school will be very similar to your undergrad experience. Law school is really just more school. Therefore, you’ll use sites like Book Share, leverage your on-campus resources, and contact publishers to retrieve accessible copies. Your law school will have access to a disability services office similar to your undergrad. However, not all schools are equal in regards to how helpful their disability services offices can be. Hopefully your law school will be even better than your undergrad, but if it is not, it will require advocacy, and we are here to support you. Next, choosing which law school to attend is a highly individualized decision. I think all of the factors you have cited are very important. I was like you in that I was not one hundred percent sure about the exact type of law I wanted to practice after law school. Therefore, I think it would be wise to not choose a school just for one specific clinic it may have. I would give yourself the freedom to change your mind in school. More often than not, people have several pivots throughout their careers. Regarding the financial consideration, some schools have loan assistance programs for their graduates that pursue public interest careers, though some programs are better than others. Some people start off in the private sector for a few years to pay down their debt. And, other than school specific scholarships, there are several outside organizations that you can apply to for scholarships, such as the NFB. The ranking topic is a contentious one. There are successful attorneys from a variety of schools. Due to the unfortunately antiquated culture of the legal profession, going to a certain school can garner you preferential treatment in certain career trajectories. Finally, regarding the DC area school, I believe that if you accepted a seat in another school now and then were moved off of the waitlist and offered a seat in the DC school, you could drop your seat in your previous school and accept the DC school seat. I have had many peers in a similar situation who have done this. I would just read the terms of your acceptance to double check. You wouldn’t want to get yourself in trouble and then compromise your position. And, you hit the nail on the head regarding the immense opportunities in a city like DC. Best of luck with making your decision and I’m happy to talk it over on the phone if you’d think it’d be helpful. Syed On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 8:03 AM Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > I reaching out with two questions. > > First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. > On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of > Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it > offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant > scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this > school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has > anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, > I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular > interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships > for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that > has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a > scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that > I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think > about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept > another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC > because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there > for externships, clerkships, etc. > > How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking > truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a > Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student > who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about > choosing a la school? > > My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What is > the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? > Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of > textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in > retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional > y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law > school? > > I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone > is willing or able to offer. > > Thank you so much! > > Warm Regards, > Natasha > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/syedrizvinfb%40gmail.com > From christophergbell at comcast.net Mon Mar 25 13:57:13 2024 From: christophergbell at comcast.net (Chris Bell) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:57:13 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42434C46-3B1B-473A-8628-F87A722F2B08@comcast.net> regarding financial considerations, a blind resident of the state of Minnesota can attend the university of Minnesota law school or any other school at the U, at no cost, except for a student activity fee. May wish contact the University of Minnesota law school to verify this. However, if money is an issue, you might wish to consider this. I also believe there are some few other states that offer free tuition to Blind residence. good luck! Best, Chris Chris Bell, JD Member, Board of Directors American Council of the Blind (612) 859-4938 > On Mar 25, 2024, at 9:25 AM, Syed Rizvi via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hi Natasha, > > > > Congrats on getting into law school! > > > > It is great that you are being so proactive and considering all of these > very important factors. > > > > I’ll address your second question first. Acquiring materials for law school > will be very similar to your undergrad experience. Law school is really > just more school. Therefore, you’ll use sites like Book Share, leverage > your on-campus resources, and contact publishers to retrieve accessible > copies. Your law school will have access to a disability services office > similar to your undergrad. However, not all schools are equal in regards to > how helpful their disability services offices can be. Hopefully your law > school will be even better than your undergrad, but if it is not, it will > require advocacy, and we are here to support you. > > > > Next, choosing which law school to attend is a highly individualized > decision. I think all of the factors you have cited are very important. I > was like you in that I was not one hundred percent sure about the exact > type of law I wanted to practice after law school. Therefore, I think it > would be wise to not choose a school just for one specific clinic it may > have. I would give yourself the freedom to change your mind in school. More > often than not, people have several pivots throughout their careers. > > > > Regarding the financial consideration, some schools have loan assistance > programs for their graduates that pursue public interest careers, though > some programs are better than others. Some people start off in the private > sector for a few years to pay down their debt. And, other than school > specific scholarships, there are several outside organizations that you can > apply to for scholarships, such as the NFB. > > > > The ranking topic is a contentious one. There are successful attorneys from > a variety of schools. Due to the unfortunately antiquated culture of the > legal profession, going to a certain school can garner you preferential > treatment in certain career trajectories. > > > > Finally, regarding the DC area school, I believe that if you accepted a > seat in another school now and then were moved off of the waitlist and > offered a seat in the DC school, you could drop your seat in your previous > school and accept the DC school seat. I have had many peers in a similar From kaybaycar at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 19:53:20 2024 From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie A. Orozco) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:53:20 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008301da7eee$16f67de0$44e379a0$@gmail.com> Hi Natasha, Choosing a law school is quite a huge decision. Have you been able to tour the law schools you're interested in? Have you spoken with any professors or anyone else from the law schools you've applied to? Speaking to people from the school, taking a tour, and sitting in on a class helped me determine which law school to attend. I don't know that I thought about the ranking of the law school I attended exactly. I would have been just as happy at a state school as I would have been at a private law school. I understand the pull of the scholarship though. You can also ask the school if you can speak to current students. The school I attended gave me plenty of students to talk to about the programs I was interested in. As an aside, if you end up near or in Washington, DC, I live in Arlington right outside of DC and would be happy to show you around. As for textbooks, my law school got me accessible copies of the textbooks from the publishers. We had to work on these books sometimes because they weren't always accessible. The page numbers were often unreadable, and the graphics were not labeled properly, which mattered when I took a trial advocacy class. Anyway, I could go on about textbooks, but it might be worth visiting with your prospective school's disability services offices and asking them how they do things. As someone who spent half my 1L year advocating for what I needed, I can tell you that it sounds great in theory not to choose a school based on accessibility needs, but it's just not super realistic in law school, when you'll need every minute you can to actually focus on your school work. I hope this helps. Julie -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 8:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Natasha Ishaq Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks Hi All, I reaching out with two questions. First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there for externships, clerkships, etc. How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about choosing a la school? My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law school? I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone is willing or able to offer. Thank you so much! Warm Regards, Natasha _______________________________________________ BlindLaw mailing list BlindLaw at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com From natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 20:30:27 2024 From: natasha.ishaq2001 at gmail.com (Natasha Ishaq) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:30:27 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: <008301da7eee$16f67de0$44e379a0$@gmail.com> References: <008301da7eee$16f67de0$44e379a0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the advice, Julie! I will definitely be visiting the school and sitting in on a class. I have been in touch with the admissions office and spoke with the director about the school and its programs back in November or December. I’ve already reached out to the individual in charge of accommodations. However, I keep getting sent to the Dean of Students. Do law schools not utilize the disabilities office associated with their respective universities? When I applied to college, it was possible to sometimes ask a university to match the scholarship that another school was offering. Is that something that can be done with law schools? One of the schools I am interested in is offering me a little less than half the amount another school is offering per year. Could I ask the former to match the latter or is this practice frowned upon when it comes to law school admissions? Thanks, Natasha Ishaq On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 3:54 PM Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw < blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Natasha, > > Choosing a law school is quite a huge decision. Have you been able to tour > the law schools you're interested in? Have you spoken with any professors > or anyone else from the law schools you've applied to? Speaking to people > from the school, taking a tour, and sitting in on a class helped me > determine which law school to attend. > > I don't know that I thought about the ranking of the law school I attended > exactly. I would have been just as happy at a state school as I would have > been at a private law school. I understand the pull of the scholarship > though. You can also ask the school if you can speak to current students. > The school I attended gave me plenty of students to talk to about the > programs I was interested in. > > As an aside, if you end up near or in Washington, DC, I live in Arlington > right outside of DC and would be happy to show you around. > > As for textbooks, my law school got me accessible copies of the textbooks > from the publishers. We had to work on these books sometimes because they > weren't always accessible. The page numbers were often unreadable, and the > graphics were not labeled properly, which mattered when I took a trial > advocacy class. Anyway, I could go on about textbooks, but it might be > worth visiting with your prospective school's disability services offices > and asking them how they do things. As someone who spent half my 1L year > advocating for what I needed, I can tell you that it sounds great in theory > not to choose a school based on accessibility needs, but it's just not > super realistic in law school, when you'll need every minute you can to > actually focus on your school work. > > I hope this helps. > > Julie > > -----Original Message----- > From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq > via BlindLaw > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 8:00 AM > To: Blind Law Mailing List > Cc: Natasha Ishaq > Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks > > Hi All, > > I reaching out with two questions. > > First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. > On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of > Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it > offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant > scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this > school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has > anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, > I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular > interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships > for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that > has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a > scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that > I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think > about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept > another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC > because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there > for externships, clerkships, etc. > > How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking > truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a > Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student > who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about > choosing a la school? > > My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What > is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? > Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of > textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in > retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional > y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law > school? > > I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone > is willing or able to offer. > > Thank you so much! > > Warm Regards, > Natasha > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > BlindLaw: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq2001%40gmail.com > From sanho817 at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 20:43:38 2024 From: sanho817 at gmail.com (Sanho Steele-Louchart) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:43:38 -0400 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58F2BF4F-019C-48F5-B539-ABED2C5978DB@gmail.com> natasha: I can't personally speak to most of this, but please be aware that every school will tell you that they can and do properly accommodate blind students. Please do not assume that their confidence is the same as competence. I regularly hear from law students receiving graphically scanned textbooks, pages missing significant amounts of text, and people who receive their materials late if at all. I encourage you to ask around your social networks to learn whether students who need your particular accommodations have actually been receiving them lately. My school was overall a great experience, but the first semester was a disaster. Students will know a great deal more than the DSS office or dean of students. Sanho > On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:31 PM, Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw wrote: > > Thanks for the advice, Julie! I will definitely be visiting the school and > sitting in on a class. I have been in touch with the admissions office and > spoke with the director about the school and its programs back in November > or December. I’ve already reached out to the individual in charge of > accommodations. However, I keep getting sent to the Dean of Students. Do > law schools not utilize the disabilities office associated with their > respective universities? When I applied to college, it was possible to > sometimes ask a university to match the scholarship that another school was > offering. Is that something that can be done with law schools? One of the > schools I am interested in is offering me a little less than half the > amount another school is offering per year. Could I ask the former to match > the latter or is this practice frowned upon when it comes to law school > admissions? > > Thanks, > Natasha Ishaq > > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 3:54 PM Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw < >> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Natasha, >> >> Choosing a law school is quite a huge decision. Have you been able to tour >> the law schools you're interested in? Have you spoken with any professors >> or anyone else from the law schools you've applied to? Speaking to people >> from the school, taking a tour, and sitting in on a class helped me >> determine which law school to attend. >> >> I don't know that I thought about the ranking of the law school I attended >> exactly. I would have been just as happy at a state school as I would have >> been at a private law school. I understand the pull of the scholarship >> though. You can also ask the school if you can speak to current students. >> The school I attended gave me plenty of students to talk to about the >> programs I was interested in. >> >> As an aside, if you end up near or in Washington, DC, I live in Arlington >> right outside of DC and would be happy to show you around. >> >> As for textbooks, my law school got me accessible copies of the textbooks >> from the publishers. We had to work on these books sometimes because they >> weren't always accessible. The page numbers were often unreadable, and the >> graphics were not labeled properly, which mattered when I took a trial >> advocacy class. Anyway, I could go on about textbooks, but it might be >> worth visiting with your prospective school's disability services offices >> and asking them how they do things. As someone who spent half my 1L year >> advocating for what I needed, I can tell you that it sounds great in theory >> not to choose a school based on accessibility needs, but it's just not >> super realistic in law school, when you'll need every minute you can to >> actually focus on your school work. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Julie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq >> via BlindLaw >> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 8:00 AM >> To: Blind Law Mailing List >> Cc: Natasha Ishaq >> Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks >> >> Hi All, >> >> I reaching out with two questions. >> >> First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. >> On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of >> Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it >> offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant >> scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this >> school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has >> anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, >> I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular >> interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships >> for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that >> has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a >> scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that >> I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think >> about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept >> another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC >> because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there >> for externships, clerkships, etc. >> >> How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking >> truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a >> Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student >> who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about >> choosing a la school? >> >> My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What >> is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? >> Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of >> textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in >> retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional >> y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law >> school? >> >> I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone >> is willing or able to offer. >> >> Thank you so much! >> >> Warm Regards, >> Natasha >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> BlindLaw: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq2001%40gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com From paigecmiller6 at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 23:03:56 2024 From: paigecmiller6 at gmail.com (Paige) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:03:56 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: <58F2BF4F-019C-48F5-B539-ABED2C5978DB@gmail.com> References: <58F2BF4F-019C-48F5-B539-ABED2C5978DB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9371C8D4-679C-45F4-8A3A-5A460143A35D@gmail.com> Hi Natasha: I wanted to chime in to say that the disability services office should be approving your accommodations, and the Dean of Students should hypothetically be implementing accommodations but shouldn't be the single person approving your accommodations. At my school, I submit my receipts to the disability services office and receive word docx files of books. I would hesitate to use bookshare files in the app directly, as its a bit harder to take notes and search the files quickly. Also, at least for me, the ranking of the school was less important than making sure I was getting an equal opportunity of education and have the best chance of passing the bar, etc. Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions! > On Mar 25, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via BlindLaw wrote: > > natasha: > > I can't personally speak to most of this, but please be aware that every school will tell you that they can and do properly accommodate blind students. Please do not assume that their confidence is the same as competence. I regularly hear from law students receiving graphically scanned textbooks, pages missing significant amounts of text, and people who receive their materials late if at all. I encourage you to ask around your social networks to learn whether students who need your particular accommodations have actually been receiving them lately. My school was overall a great experience, but the first semester was a disaster. Students will know a great deal more than the DSS office or dean of students. > > Sanho > >> On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:31 PM, Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw wrote: >> >> Thanks for the advice, Julie! I will definitely be visiting the school and >> sitting in on a class. I have been in touch with the admissions office and >> spoke with the director about the school and its programs back in November >> or December. I’ve already reached out to the individual in charge of >> accommodations. However, I keep getting sent to the Dean of Students. Do >> law schools not utilize the disabilities office associated with their >> respective universities? When I applied to college, it was possible to >> sometimes ask a university to match the scholarship that another school was >> offering. Is that something that can be done with law schools? One of the >> schools I am interested in is offering me a little less than half the >> amount another school is offering per year. Could I ask the former to match >> the latter or is this practice frowned upon when it comes to law school >> admissions? >> >> Thanks, >> Natasha Ishaq >> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 3:54 PM Julie A. Orozco via BlindLaw < >>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Natasha, >>> >>> Choosing a law school is quite a huge decision. Have you been able to tour >>> the law schools you're interested in? Have you spoken with any professors >>> or anyone else from the law schools you've applied to? Speaking to people >>> from the school, taking a tour, and sitting in on a class helped me >>> determine which law school to attend. >>> >>> I don't know that I thought about the ranking of the law school I attended >>> exactly. I would have been just as happy at a state school as I would have >>> been at a private law school. I understand the pull of the scholarship >>> though. You can also ask the school if you can speak to current students. >>> The school I attended gave me plenty of students to talk to about the >>> programs I was interested in. >>> >>> As an aside, if you end up near or in Washington, DC, I live in Arlington >>> right outside of DC and would be happy to show you around. >>> >>> As for textbooks, my law school got me accessible copies of the textbooks >>> from the publishers. We had to work on these books sometimes because they >>> weren't always accessible. The page numbers were often unreadable, and the >>> graphics were not labeled properly, which mattered when I took a trial >>> advocacy class. Anyway, I could go on about textbooks, but it might be >>> worth visiting with your prospective school's disability services offices >>> and asking them how they do things. As someone who spent half my 1L year >>> advocating for what I needed, I can tell you that it sounds great in theory >>> not to choose a school based on accessibility needs, but it's just not >>> super realistic in law school, when you'll need every minute you can to >>> actually focus on your school work. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq >>> via BlindLaw >>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 8:00 AM >>> To: Blind Law Mailing List >>> Cc: Natasha Ishaq >>> Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I reaching out with two questions. >>> >>> First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. >>> On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of >>> Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it >>> offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant >>> scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this >>> school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has >>> anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, >>> I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular >>> interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships >>> for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that >>> has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a >>> scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that >>> I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think >>> about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept >>> another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC >>> because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there >>> for externships, clerkships, etc. >>> >>> How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking >>> truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a >>> Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student >>> who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about >>> choosing a la school? >>> >>> My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What >>> is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? >>> Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of >>> textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in >>> retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional >>> y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law >>> school? >>> >>> I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone >>> is willing or able to offer. >>> >>> Thank you so much! >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> Natasha >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BlindLaw mailing list >>> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> BlindLaw: >>> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/natasha.ishaq2001%40gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> BlindLaw mailing list >> BlindLaw at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/sanho817%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/paigecmiller6%40gmail.com From oduncan821 at gmail.com Tue Mar 26 21:40:30 2024 From: oduncan821 at gmail.com (omar duncan) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:40:30 -0700 Subject: [blindLaw] LSAT study partner Message-ID: Hey all hope everyone doing good Does anyone by any chance know of anyone who is in the phase of preparing for the LSAT, and can possibly benefit from A LIGHT LEVEL ACCOUNTABILITY, PARTNER OR BUDDY KIND OF SET UP TO JUST HOLD ON ANOTHER ACCOUNTABLE AND ALSO GO OVER SOME CONCEPTS AND DISCUSS STUFF ABOUT THE TEST. I’M DOWN FOR SOMETHING THAT’S DONE REMOTELY OR THROUGH PHONE OR IN PERSON IF ANYONE ELSE LIVES IN THE WEST COAST – – SPECIFICALLY, SOCAL ? I appreciate any connections or additional information and I am able to provide more information if necessary Thank you for everyone’s attention, and I appreciate any assistance. Best, From marinamrake at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 01:12:34 2024 From: marinamrake at gmail.com (Marina Rake) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:12:34 -0500 Subject: [blindLaw] LSAT study partner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C845286-5F8D-4777-B27E-086F07CAE2FF@gmail.com> Hi, I am getting ready to take the LSAT in April and would love to have a study partner! Feel free to reach out through email, phone call, or text. I live in Houston, TX. My email address is marinamrake at gmail.com . Phone number is (503) 781-9948. Sincerely, Marina > On Mar 26, 2024, at 4:40 PM, omar duncan via BlindLaw wrote: > > Hey all hope everyone doing good > > > > Does anyone by any chance know of anyone who is in the phase of preparing > for the LSAT, and can possibly benefit from A LIGHT LEVEL ACCOUNTABILITY, > PARTNER OR BUDDY KIND OF SET UP TO JUST HOLD ON ANOTHER ACCOUNTABLE AND > ALSO GO OVER SOME CONCEPTS AND DISCUSS STUFF ABOUT THE TEST. > > I’M DOWN FOR SOMETHING THAT’S DONE REMOTELY OR THROUGH PHONE OR IN PERSON > IF ANYONE ELSE LIVES IN THE WEST COAST – – SPECIFICALLY, SOCAL ? > > > I appreciate any connections or additional information and I am able to > provide more information if necessary > > > > Thank you for everyone’s attention, and I appreciate any assistance. > > > Best, > _______________________________________________ > BlindLaw mailing list > BlindLaw at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindlaw_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for BlindLaw: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindlaw_nfbnet.org/marinamrake%40gmail.com From Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov Fri Mar 29 23:26:15 2024 From: Noel.Nightingale at ed.gov (Nightingale, Noel) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:26:15 +0000 Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Natasha , From the perspective of having been on a law firm's hiring committee, My two cents is that the ranking of the law school the applicant attends is very important if the applicant wants to work at a firm (as opposed to opening his or her own practice). It often turned on whether an applicant even received an interview. It matters somewhat less for government jobs but still matters. Best wishes, Noel -----Original Message----- From: BlindLaw On Behalf Of Natasha Ishaq via BlindLaw Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 5:00 AM To: Blind Law Mailing List Cc: Natasha Ishaq Subject: [blindLaw] Selecting a Law School & Textbooks Hi All, I reaching out with two questions. First, I am strugling to decide which law school I should attend come fall. On one hand, I have been offered admission to Liberty University School of Law. This was a school that I applied to because of a particular clinic it offered that was of interest to me. I was offered a fairly significant scholarship as well. However, my research shows me that the ranking of this school is questionable, nor does it appear to be incredibly reputable. Has anyone attended this school or know of anyone who has? On the other hand, I’ve been admitted to Tier 2 schools, one of which is of particular interest to me. I am waiting to receive information regarding scholarships for this particular school. My gut feeling is to go with the school that has the highest ranking, even if the school does not offer me as much of a scholarship. I am also feeling stuck because a school in Washington DC that I was hoping to be admitted to has waitlisted me. I cannot help but think about the possibility that this school might admit me after I accept another’s office. I was hoping to attend law school in Washington DC because of the fact that so many government agencies would be right there for externships, clerkships, etc. How do I ensure that the decision I make is the right one? Does ranking truly matter? if so, will I be doing myself a disservice my attending a Tier 2 school instead of a Tier 1 school? How should a prospective student who is still debating upon which area of law they want to practice go about choosing a la school? My second question is in regards to accessing law school textbooks. What is the best way to acquire law school textbooks in an accessible format? Throughout college, I was often able to retrieve accessible PDF copies of textbooks online or have the accessibility support office assist in retrieving accessible PDF copies directly from the publishers. Occassional y I was able to find textbooks on Bookshare. What is my best et for law school? I apologize for all the questions. I am so thankful for the insight anyone is willing or able to offer. Thank you so much! 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