[blindLaw] attending hearings via vc: dealing with jaws' voice

Thu May 16 06:05:49 UTC 2024

Thanks, all. have decided to take today's hearing via vc on my phone while
using jaws on my laptop. nothing else seems to work with webex. the court
staff keeps muting me otherwise which prevents me from referencing my notes
and making my points.

Rahul

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From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 at 21:16
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] attending hearings via vc: dealing with jaws' voice
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>

Hi Rahul,

I had this problem, even while using headphones, on a Lenovo laptop. It was
not my primary device and so I did not take the time to precisely diagnose
the issue. This was during law school. But I got as far as understanding
that it was likely a setting, somewhere in the depths of my machine which
was causing jaws to bleed into the audio feed on zoom through the
headphones. It was extremely frustrating at times! I hope you can sort out
a fix.
Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak Esq.
716-563-9882

> On May 14, 2024, at 9:29 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I second Al’s suggestion. I have used earbuds in several court
appearances, and I’ve never had a problem with the court (or anyone else)
hearing Jaws.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2024, at 8:52 AM, Al Elia via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>>
>> What kind of headphones and microphone are you using? If you’re using
on/over-ears that are open-back, you may be leaking sound. You may have to
use earbuds instead. also, if you are using the headphone mic, that could
increase the leakage problem. I’d suggest using earbuds with no integrated
mic, and then using your computer’s built-in microphone (presuming you have
a notebook and not a desktop computer).
>>
>> Happy to try to troubleshoot further if you can provide more technical
details on your current computer/headphone/mic tech.
>>
>> /Æ
>>
>>
>> On 13 May 2024, at 6:59, Tai Tomasi wrote:
>>
>> If you can’t figure out a less expensive solution, you might be able to
attach an external sound card and plug-in a noise canceling headset for one
side, while channeling jaws through a different headset on the other side.
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I do use earphones. i set it up for jaws to to speak from one earpiece
and
>> the other audio channels from te other earpiece. but somehow, the court
>> staff still keeps muting me. I assume because the noise from earpiece a
>> carries to the other participants through earpiece b.
>>
>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 at 16:42, derek dittmar via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> That was going to be my recommendation as well. I have never had this
>> issue on either of the platforms you mentioned. However, I always use
>> headphones. If for some reason that isn’t working, maybe a fair
>> accommodation would be to use a separate computer to log into the voice
>> conference and then use your computer for your notes and argument? With
>> headphones of course. Last week I was in superior court here in North
>> Carolina and just used my notes on my iPhone with an AirPod. That worked
>> great, but I did have my laptop with me and available in case the judge
had
>> questions about the file that I did not anticipate. Luckily, it was
smooth
>> sailing.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 6:59 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Do you use a headset? I find using at least one earbud helpful. I use a
>> wired one to avoid latency issues.
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 1:50 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I often have to appear for virtual hearings via webex and zoom. Whatever
>> jaws speaks can be heard by the other participants on the call. I have
>> used
>> the keystroke insert+space+v+arrow keys, but still that doesnot solve
>> the
>> problem. he court administrators keep muting me due to the noise that
>> jaws
>> makes. this prevents me from referencing my notes and arguing
>> effectively.
>> please help.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
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>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
>> Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
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thanks, all. have decided to take today's hearing via vc on my phone while
using jaws on my laptop. nothing else seems to work with webex. the court
staff keeps muting me otherwise which prevents me from referencing my notes
and making my points.

Rahul

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 at 21:16
Subject: Re: [blindLaw] attending hearings via vc: dealing with jaws' voice
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>

Hi Rahul,

I had this problem, even while using headphones, on a Lenovo laptop. It was
not my primary device and so I did not take the time to precisely diagnose
the issue. This was during law school. But I got as far as understanding
that it was likely a setting, somewhere in the depths of my machine which
was causing jaws to bleed into the audio feed on zoom through the
headphones. It was extremely frustrating at times! I hope you can sort out
a fix.
Warmly,

Maura Kutnyak Esq.
716-563-9882

> On May 14, 2024, at 9:29 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I second Al’s suggestion. I have used earbuds in several court
appearances, and I’ve never had a problem with the court (or anyone else)
hearing Jaws.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 14, 2024, at 8:52 AM, Al Elia via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>>
>> What kind of headphones and microphone are you using? If you’re using
on/over-ears that are open-back, you may be leaking sound. You may have to
use earbuds instead. also, if you are using the headphone mic, that could
increase the leakage problem. I’d suggest using earbuds with no integrated
mic, and then using your computer’s built-in microphone (presuming you have
a notebook and not a desktop computer).
>>
>> Happy to try to troubleshoot further if you can provide more technical
details on your current computer/headphone/mic tech.
>>
>> /Æ
>>
>>
>> On 13 May 2024, at 6:59, Tai Tomasi wrote:
>>
>> If you can’t figure out a less expensive solution, you might be able to
attach an external sound card and plug-in a noise canceling headset for one
side, while channeling jaws through a different headset on the other side.
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 7:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <
blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I do use earphones. i set it up for jaws to to speak from one earpiece
and
>> the other audio channels from te other earpiece. but somehow, the court
>> staff still keeps muting me. I assume because the noise from earpiece a
>> carries to the other participants through earpiece b.
>>
>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 at 16:42, derek dittmar via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> That was going to be my recommendation as well. I have never had this
>> issue on either of the platforms you mentioned. However, I always use
>> headphones. If for some reason that isn’t working, maybe a fair
>> accommodation would be to use a separate computer to log into the voice
>> conference and then use your computer for your notes and argument? With
>> headphones of course. Last week I was in superior court here in North
>> Carolina and just used my notes on my iPhone with an AirPod. That worked
>> great, but I did have my laptop with me and available in case the judge
had
>> questions about the file that I did not anticipate. Luckily, it was
smooth
>> sailing.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 6:59 AM, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Do you use a headset? I find using at least one earbud helpful. I use a
>> wired one to avoid latency issues.
>>
>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>>
>> On May 13, 2024, at 1:50 AM, Rahul Bajaj via BlindLaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I often have to appear for virtual hearings via webex and zoom. Whatever
>> jaws speaks can be heard by the other participants on the call. I have
>> used
>> the keystroke insert+space+v+arrow keys, but still that doesnot solve
>> the
>> problem. he court administrators keep muting me due to the noise that
>> jaws
>> makes. this prevents me from referencing my notes and arguing
>> effectively.
>> please help.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Rahul Bajaj
>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
>> Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018), University of Oxford
>> Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility
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Co-Founder, Mission Accessibility