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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS? (Elizabeth Troutman) 2. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS? (Marcos Rodrigues) 3. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS? (Gerard Sadlier) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 12:36:28 +0000 From: Elizabeth Troutman <ETroutman@BrooksPierce.com> To: "blindlaw@nfbnet.org" <blindlaw@nfbnet.org> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS? Message-ID: <CABF6BB5407136429B53A0950AF860BA3A6D6218@GSOEXC1.bpmhl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hi all, Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file, ev= en limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your whole p= roduction. Eclipse can't interface with JAWS, so you have to get somebody e= lse to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not well - so if = you have a larger support staff, it's not a bad idea to teach them how to d= o it). The excel file can include "tags," and other information about each = item, as well as a link to an OCR'd PDF (embedded in the excel) of the docu= ment. You can read and take notes, in the excel, and then run it back throu= gh Relativity or Eclipse so that your notations and tags are incorporated i= nto the platform. Sometimes, if you are working with a massive production, = the excel gets cranky with too many entries, so it's better to do it in bat= ches of about 5,000 documents. I also use this trick to generate an excel l= ist of all documents responsive to a particular request or a privilege log = - you generate the excel without the embedded document and then you can tur= n that into a chart or list. I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and get = our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and circu= late in the next few days. I don't know about any other platforms, and I th= ink there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase access. Elizabeth Elizabeth Troutman etroutman@brookspierce.com Brooks Pierce 2000 Renaissance Plaza 230 North Elm Street Greensboro, NC 27401 T 336-271-3138 F 336-232-9138 http://www.brookspierce.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail transmittal is privileged and confidential intended for the addressee only. If you are neither the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure of this information in any way or taking of any action in reliance on this information is strictly prohibited. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Elizabeth Troutman via BlindLaw <blindlaw@nfb= net.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file, = even limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your whole= production. Eclipse can't interface with JAWS, so you have to get somebody= else to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not well - so i= f you have a larger support staff, it's not a bad idea to teach them how to= do it). The excel file can include "tags," and other information about eac= h item, as well as a link to an OCR'd PDF (embedded in the excel) of the do= cument. You can read and take notes, in the excel, and then run it back thr= ough Relativity or Eclipse so that your notations and tags are incorporated= into the platform. Sometimes, if you are working with a massive production= , the excel gets cranky with too many entries, so it's better to do it in b= atches of about 5,000 documents. I also use this trick to generate an excel= list of all documents responsive to a particular request or a privilege lo= g - you generate the excel without the embedded document and then you can t= urn that into a chart or list. > > I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and ge= t our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and cir= culate in the next few days. I don't know about any other platforms, and I = think there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase access. > > Elizabeth > > Elizabeth Troutman > etroutman@brookspierce.com > > Brooks Pierce > 2000 Renaissance Plaza > 230 North Elm Street > Greensboro, NC 27401 > T 336-271-3138 > F 336-232-9138 > http://www.brookspierce.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Confidentiality Notice: > > The information contained in this e-mail transmittal is privileged and > confidential intended for the addressee only. If you are neither the > intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering > this e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure of this > information in any way or taking of any action in reliance on this > information is strictly prohibited. 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Message-ID: <CAGZitzJS0tRYW9=3DJqiG7C8-1WvCSOHq0Mv3fv7ht5Oxg03jOgw@mail.gmail.c= om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Elizabeth That is extremely helpful and is certainly (limited) progress. I can certainly understand that limited features of these systems e.g. redaction using JAWS may be really tricky. I think one needs to see and be able to redact the original image, since it is the image that will be produced ultimately and I think that in fairness that simply isn't possible with JAWS. (it would of course be possible using magnification but that's not relevant for me.) However, most features should be accessible. The documents being reviewed have been converted to text using (what is usually) state of the art OCR. So, the system has text for all the review documents in it. It is merely a matter of these vendors making a system that is accessible, so that one can conduct searches (which loads of databases manage), navigate to the text view of particular documents - a simple button would suffice and then tag a document as privileged, not privileged, (in Ireland at least responsive to a particular category of discovery - I don't know US Federal or State procedure on this point). That cannot be beyond the powers of computer programmers at this point in t= ime?! Kind regards Ger On 7/6/16, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw <blindlaw@nfbnet.org> wrote: > Can we do document review using relativity? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Elizabeth Troutman via BlindLaw >> <blindlaw@nfbnet.org> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file, >> even limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your >> whole production. Eclipse can't interface with JAWS, so you have to get >> somebody else to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not >> well - so if you have a larger support staff, it's not a bad idea to tea= ch >> them how to do it). The excel file can include "tags," and other >> information about each item, as well as a link to an OCR'd PDF (embedded >> in the excel) of the document. You can read and take notes, in the excel= , >> and then run it back through Relativity or Eclipse so that your notation= s >> and tags are incorporated into the platform. Sometimes, if you are worki= ng >> with a massive production, the excel gets cranky with too many entries, = so >> it's better to do it in batches of about 5,000 documents. I also use thi= s >> trick to generate an excel list of all documents responsive to a >> particular request or a privilege log - you generate the excel without t= he >> embedded document and then you can turn that into a chart or list. >> >> I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and g= et >> our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and >> circulate in the next few days. I don't know about any other platforms, >> and I think there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase >> access. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Troutman >> etroutman@brookspierce.com >> >> Brooks Pierce >> 2000 Renaissance Plaza >> 230 North Elm Street >> Greensboro, NC 27401 >> T 336-271-3138 >> F 336-232-9138 >> http://www.brookspierce.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Confidentiality Notice: >> >> The information contained in this e-mail transmittal is privileged and >> confidential intended for the addressee only. If you are neither the >> intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering >> this e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure of this >> information in any way or taking of any action in reliance on this >> information is strictly prohibited. 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