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Today&#x27;s Topics:

   1. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS?
      (Elizabeth Troutman)
   2. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS?
      (Marcos Rodrigues)
   3. Re: Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using JAWS?
      (Gerard Sadlier)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 12:36:28 +0000
From: Elizabeth Troutman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using
        JAWS?
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Hi all,

Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file, even limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your whole production. Eclipse can&#x27;t interface with JAWS, so you have to get somebody else to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not well - so if you have a larger support staff, it&#x27;s not a bad idea to teach them how to do it). The excel file can include &quot;tags,&quot; and other information about each item, as well as a link to an OCR&#x27;d PDF (embedded in the excel) of the document. You can read and take notes, in the excel, and then run it back through Relativity or Eclipse so that your notations and tags are incorporated into the platform. Sometimes, if you are working with a massive production, the excel gets cranky with too many entries, so it&#x27;s better to do it in batches of about 5,000 documents. I also use this trick to generate an excel list of all documents responsive to a particular request or a privilege log - you generate the excel without the embedded document and then you can turn that into a chart or list.

I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and get our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and circulate in the next few days. I don&#x27;t know about any other platforms, and I think there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase access.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Troutman
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 08:53:46 -0400
From: Marcos Rodrigues &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using
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Can we do document review using relativity?

Sent from my iPhone

&gt; On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Elizabeth Troutman via BlindLaw &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Hi all,
&gt;
&gt; Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file, even limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your whole production. Eclipse can&#x27;t interface with JAWS, so you have to get somebody else to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not well - so if you have a larger support staff, it&#x27;s not a bad idea to teach them how to do it). The excel file can include &quot;tags,&quot; and other information about each item, as well as a link to an OCR&#x27;d PDF (embedded in the excel) of the document. You can read and take notes, in the excel, and then run it back through Relativity or Eclipse so that your notations and tags are incorporated into the platform. Sometimes, if you are working with a massive production, the excel gets cranky with too many entries, so it&#x27;s better to do it in batches of about 5,000 documents. I also use this trick to generate an excel list of all documents responsive to a particular request or a privilege log - you generate the excel without the embedded document and then you can turn that into a chart or list.
&gt;
&gt; I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and get our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and circulate in the next few days. I don&#x27;t know about any other platforms, and I think there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase access.
&gt;
&gt; Elizabeth
&gt;
&gt; Elizabeth Troutman
&gt; [email-masked]
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&gt; 230 North Elm Street
&gt; Greensboro, NC  27401
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 18:52:33 +0100
From: Gerard Sadlier &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessibility of eDiscovery Platforms Using
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Elizabeth

That is extremely helpful and is certainly (limited) progress.

I can  certainly understand that limited features of these systems
e.g. redaction using JAWS may be really tricky. I think one needs to
see and be able to redact the original image, since it is the image
that will be produced ultimately and I think that in fairness that
simply isn&#x27;t possible with JAWS. (it would of course be possible using
magnification but that&#x27;s not relevant for me.)

However, most features should be accessible. The documents being
reviewed have been converted to text using (what is usually) state of
the art OCR. So, the system has text for all the review documents in
it.

It is merely a matter of these vendors making a system that is
accessible, so that one can conduct searches (which loads of databases
manage), navigate to the text view of particular documents - a simple
button would suffice and then tag a document as privileged, not
privileged, (in Ireland at least responsive to a particular category
of discovery - I don&#x27;t know US Federal or State procedure on this
point).

That cannot be beyond the powers of computer programmers at this point in time?!

Kind regards

Ger

On 7/6/16, Marcos Rodrigues via BlindLaw &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
&gt; Can we do document review using relativity?
&gt;
&gt; Sent from my iPhone
&gt;
&gt;&gt; On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Elizabeth Troutman via BlindLaw
&gt;&gt; &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Hi all,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Both Eclipse and Relativity have the capacity to generate an excel file,
&gt;&gt; even limited by a particular search or set of documents - or for your
&gt;&gt; whole production. Eclipse can&#x27;t interface with JAWS, so you have to get
&gt;&gt; somebody else to do it. Relativity does interface with JAWS (though not
&gt;&gt; well - so if you have a larger support staff, it&#x27;s not a bad idea to teach
&gt;&gt; them how to do it). The excel file can include &quot;tags,&quot; and other
&gt;&gt; information about each item, as well as a link to an OCR&#x27;d PDF (embedded
&gt;&gt; in the excel) of the document. You can read and take notes, in the excel,
&gt;&gt; and then run it back through Relativity or Eclipse so that your notations
&gt;&gt; and tags are incorporated into the platform. Sometimes, if you are working
&gt;&gt; with a massive production, the excel gets cranky with too many entries, so
&gt;&gt; it&#x27;s better to do it in batches of about 5,000 documents. I also use this
&gt;&gt; trick to generate an excel list of all documents responsive to a
&gt;&gt; particular request or a privilege log - you generate the excel without the
&gt;&gt; embedded document and then you can turn that into a chart or list.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I will go on Relativity and type out directions on how to do this, and get
&gt;&gt; our litigation support person to type out directions for Eclipse, and
&gt;&gt; circulate in the next few days. I don&#x27;t know about any other platforms,
&gt;&gt; and I think there is a lot more these vendors could be doing to increase
&gt;&gt; access.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Elizabeth
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Elizabeth Troutman
&gt;&gt; [email-masked]
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Brooks Pierce
&gt;&gt; 2000 Renaissance Plaza
&gt;&gt; 230 North Elm Street
&gt;&gt; Greensboro, NC  27401
&gt;&gt; T 336-271-3138
&gt;&gt; F 336-232-9138
&gt;&gt; http://www.brookspierce.com
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