[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 49, Issue 16
John Miller
j8miller at soe.ucsd.edu
Sat Aug 21 18:31:43 UTC 2010
Hello Peter,
I recommend you enroll in a class that you have a good chance of success in. From your own assessment, it sounds like this class would be precalc, trig, or algebra.
In all of my academic courses, I used a perkins mechanical braille writer to do the homeworks and the midterms.
Try out a math homework writing up and solving the problem in hard copy braille with a braille writer.
Although the nemeth braille code is very helpful, in your own braille work it doesn't really matter what symbols you use. Just be consistent. As you learn more nemeth braille code, you can introduce the new symbols and rules as you go along.
I hope that in the meantime you can take a programming class that challenges you and connects you with the excitement of your future career goal.
The math will come with practice and your career goal awaits in computer science.
Very best,
John
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1. Cal questions (Peter Wolfe)
2. Re: Cal questions (Matthew2010)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:58:05 -0500
From: Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Blindmath] Cal questions
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Blind Math List:
It's me Petere again with some calculus issues again. I just moved into my new apartment with recieving my nemeth code book with algebra, trigonometry and geometry textbooks as well. I just started with calculus and quite frankly its overwhelming me right now. First off, I haven't had precalculus in two and a half years from a little community college, which coddled you with a tutor. I don't know nemeth code either and the test on previous knowledge is on Monday with no grade on my overall grade in the course.
So, I'm trying to start off in the right order. I'm not even sure as I don't use precalculus nor have any knowledge in trig to know what all signs I need. Unfortunately timing is a huge issue with the e-mail from the professor being very slow in coming in enough time for me as a blind student to convert over to braille in which I wish to learn calculus in. Moreover, learning the algebra, geometry and trig signs with rules and steps is going to be hard with learning calculus as well. I'm just trying to remember some precalculus but if you don't use it you forget it. Two pieces of advice is wait to see how the test goes or continue onward. Well, I don't remember anything cause like I said "If you don't use it you forget it" and this doesn't matter how smart you think you are either. Its causing me serious faith questions right now with serious fighting with bouts of alcoholic fits with rages and violence as well.
Thanks for anymore advice you guys might charitably give to me.
I'm just trying to know where to start on this monumental problem of mathematics in braille for a computer science and perhaps software engineering student. How much would I just need to memorize in the future or not cause multiple signals constantly found and recieved as well. Damn I just get stumpt as to being a former visual learner and a tactical learning person cause now I'm far slower than I used to be.
I'm even thinking about asking a muslim professor I know in another engineering field to help me out if he can. The apathetic christian elite doesn't apparently give a rats including professors or anybody.
Trying to get a tutor recommmendation is pathetically dragful and pathetic as well. More liberal schools are better in my opinion in this respect just in over my head in the temporary hopefully cause wasting three years and two years of dormitoryt and a year of apartment rent must be a bitch for people that paid for it including social security and grants and etc as well. I'd hate to fail in this far into the game cause its sort of wasting other peoples opportunities.
sincerely,
Peter
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Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
sunspot005 at gmail.com
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:33:07 -0700
From: "Matthew2010" <Matthew_2010 at charter.net>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Cal questions
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In all honesty, you sound like you have way too much on your plate to be taking such an involved class. If you just moved into this new place then it will be a stressful time of course since there's lots of phone calls to be mae and lots of things that have to be organized and completed quickly. You also have alcohol problems which won't make your life any easier. You've not learned Nemeth so that will be another stressor. I'm sure you'll have to adapt to this new school too which is yet another stressor. In short, this calculus class is way too much for you right now. Learn how to access your math content, then learn the actual math. Learning how to read at the same time you will be expected to read E. O. Wilson's Consilience by the end of the month is just too much. There is nothing anyone here on this list that can do anything to help you. If you continue with this mind set that you will force yourself to understand and will emerge a calculus genius with sheer determinatio
n by the end of the quarter is a bit much right now. You might be able to pull this cramming off for a week or two, but once your first midterm comes along you're gonna start blaming the world again for your lack of preparation.
Matthew
From: Peter Wolfe
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:58 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Blindmath] Cal questions
Blind Math List:
It's me Petere again with some calculus issues again. I just
moved into my new apartment with recieving my nemeth code book with
algebra, trigonometry and geometry textbooks as well. I just started
with calculus and quite frankly its overwhelming me right now. First
off, I haven't had precalculus in two and a half years from a little
community college, which coddled you with a tutor. I don't know nemeth
code either and the test on previous knowledge is on Monday with no
grade on my overall grade in the course.
So, I'm trying to start off in the right order. I'm not even sure
as I don't use precalculus nor have any knowledge in trig to know what
all signs I need. Unfortunately timing is a huge issue with the e-mail
from the professor being very slow in coming in enough time for me as
a blind student to convert over to braille in which I wish to learn
calculus in. Moreover, learning the algebra, geometry and trig signs
with rules and steps is going to be hard with learning calculus as
well. I'm just trying to remember some precalculus but if you don't
use it you forget it. Two pieces of advice is wait to see how the test
goes or continue onward. Well, I don't remember anything cause like I
said "If you don't use it you forget it" and this doesn't matter how
smart you think you are either. Its causing me serious faith questions
right now with serious fighting with bouts of alcoholic fits with
rages and violence as well.
Thanks for anymore advice you guys might charitably give to me.
I'm just trying to know where to start on this monumental problem of
mathematics in braille for a computer science and perhaps software
engineering student. How much would I just need to memorize in the
future or not cause multiple signals constantly found and recieved as
well. Damn I just get stumpt as to being a former visual learner and a
tactical learning person cause now I'm far slower than I used to be.
I'm even thinking about asking a muslim professor I know in another
engineering field to help me out if he can. The apathetic christian
elite doesn't apparently give a rats including professors or anybody.
Trying to get a tutor recommmendation is pathetically dragful and
pathetic as well. More liberal schools are better in my opinion in
this respect just in over my head in the temporary hopefully cause
wasting three years and two years of dormitoryt and a year of
apartment rent must be a bitch for people that paid for it including
social security and grants and etc as well. I'd hate to fail in this
far into the game cause its sort of wasting other peoples
opportunities.
sincerely,
Peter
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Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
sunspot005 at gmail.com
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:32:09 -0400
From: "Christine Szostak" <szostak.1 at osu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Cal questions
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Hi Peter,
It sounds like one of the best things right now would bee to consider one
of two things. (a) switch from this to an alg, trig, or pre-calc course. If
you do not remember any of that material, and have not had trig, you are
likely going to benefit a lot more from the above and taking calc in a
semester or two than struggling through it right now. Ask yourself when
making this decision, what grade am I likely to get now, do I want that on
my transcripts, and if I wait, take a catch-up course or two and then take
calc next semester is my grade likely to go up (it sounds like the answer is
probably yes). (b) If a is not an option, the other option you might
consider is to take the semester off. As Matthew notes a bit harshly, you do
sound like you have a lot on your plate and perhaps taking the semester off
would be of help.
If neither of the above will work, you could always see if your school
offers tutoring. Most universities have something like a success center or
other center that is equip with tutors in different fields.
Best of luck,
Christine
Christine M. Szostak
Graduate Student
Language Perception Laboratory
Department of Psychology, Cognitive Area
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio
szostak.1 at osu.edu
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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Cal questions
> In all honesty, you sound like you have way too much on your plate to be
> taking such an involved class. If you just moved into this new place then
> it will be a stressful time of course since there's lots of phone calls to
> be mae and lots of things that have to be organized and completed quickly.
> You also have alcohol problems which won't make your life any easier.
> You've not learned Nemeth so that will be another stressor. I'm sure
> you'll have to adapt to this new school too which is yet another stressor.
> In short, this calculus class is way too much for you right now. Learn how
> to access your math content, then learn the actual math. Learning how to
> read at the same time you will be expected to read E. O. Wilson's
> Consilience by the end of the month is just too much. There is nothing
> anyone here on this list that can do anything to help you. If you continue
> with this mind set that you will force yourself to understand and will
> emerge a calculus genius with sheer determinati!
> on by the end of the quarter is a bit much right now. You might be able to
> pull this cramming off for a week or two, but once your first midterm
> comes along you're gonna start blaming the world again for your lack of
> preparation.
>
> Matthew
>
> From: Peter Wolfe
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:58 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] Cal questions
>
>
> Blind Math List:
>
>
> It's me Petere again with some calculus issues again. I just
> moved into my new apartment with recieving my nemeth code book with
> algebra, trigonometry and geometry textbooks as well. I just started
> with calculus and quite frankly its overwhelming me right now. First
> off, I haven't had precalculus in two and a half years from a little
> community college, which coddled you with a tutor. I don't know nemeth
> code either and the test on previous knowledge is on Monday with no
> grade on my overall grade in the course.
> So, I'm trying to start off in the right order. I'm not even sure
> as I don't use precalculus nor have any knowledge in trig to know what
> all signs I need. Unfortunately timing is a huge issue with the e-mail
> from the professor being very slow in coming in enough time for me as
> a blind student to convert over to braille in which I wish to learn
> calculus in. Moreover, learning the algebra, geometry and trig signs
> with rules and steps is going to be hard with learning calculus as
> well. I'm just trying to remember some precalculus but if you don't
> use it you forget it. Two pieces of advice is wait to see how the test
> goes or continue onward. Well, I don't remember anything cause like I
> said "If you don't use it you forget it" and this doesn't matter how
> smart you think you are either. Its causing me serious faith questions
> right now with serious fighting with bouts of alcoholic fits with
> rages and violence as well.
> Thanks for anymore advice you guys might charitably give to me.
> I'm just trying to know where to start on this monumental problem of
> mathematics in braille for a computer science and perhaps software
> engineering student. How much would I just need to memorize in the
> future or not cause multiple signals constantly found and recieved as
> well. Damn I just get stumpt as to being a former visual learner and a
> tactical learning person cause now I'm far slower than I used to be.
> I'm even thinking about asking a muslim professor I know in another
> engineering field to help me out if he can. The apathetic christian
> elite doesn't apparently give a rats including professors or anybody.
> Trying to get a tutor recommmendation is pathetically dragful and
> pathetic as well. More liberal schools are better in my opinion in
> this respect just in over my head in the temporary hopefully cause
> wasting three years and two years of dormitoryt and a year of
> apartment rent must be a bitch for people that paid for it including
> social security and grants and etc as well. I'd hate to fail in this
> far into the game cause its sort of wasting other peoples
> opportunities.
>
> sincerely,
> Peter
>
>
> --
> Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
>
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