[Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions

Thu Jul 1 17:39:23 UTC 2010

Peter

I am still interested if you are at all interested in math related
issues, or if you merely use this list for ranting about politics
which, btw. is completely inappropriate and irrelevant to this list.
This list is for people interested in math, not politics, and that has
nothing to do with their affiliations to any organization, American or
otherwise, please stay on topic.
-B


On 7/1/10, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jose,
>
>
>     I think at times government intervention is a helpful and yet
> device issue. For example, what can Vocational Rehabilitation do for
> you? yet, others on funding, resources, transportation or whatever on
> training and so forth. I'm merely saying that it's not as easy on this
> list for blind americans as other blind americans. What is so
> controvercial about things? I pointed out facts and had a sound
> argument to put forth that all people aren't endowed with luck or
> fortune like other supressed minorities inside of minorities in this
> nation lack availible funds or resources as well.
>     I agree with you that we shouldn't focus just merely understand
> that all backgrounds aren't equal. If you don't like my message you
> can delete it or just block me via yoru filter. It's quite easy if you
> want or whatever. If you have something bad to say about me just keep
> it off the list. This is what I say to you and the hurtles of getting
> over partisan bickering over ACB, NFB and AFB over serious advocate to
> information resources on training, literature and communication on
> strategies of overcoming particular issues is the main forum on this
> list. I'm not focusing on this topic cause it's by and large pointless
> to argue with people cause their parents, family, religion, God or
> Godess, intuition, life experience has utterly brainwashed them to
> think independently except for a few independent minded people in the
> world. This is all I meant and only Mark got my meaning that is it.
> Thanks for listening to this small explaination and try not to be
> hypocrits people.
>
> cordially,
> Peter
>
> On 6/28/10, Jose Tamayo <jtblas at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Let's just maintain composure.  This list has far more than just NFB
>> people.
>> Let's not forget that we all have our issues and because someone is
>> expressing themselves does not mean they have to be banned off any list.
>>
>> while I don't agree with some of the commentary by Peter, I do have to
>> accept that he has his views and opinions.  We don't necessarily have to
>> get
>> insulted because one person has decided that he dislikes a particular
>> organization.
>>
>> We are here to provide information and the only way to do it is by
>> maintaining  a good nature and understanding one another.
>>
>> I joined this list some time ago and had my opinions. Perhaps one or two
>> times I have made comments that are unbecoming of a gentleman.  I do say
>> that we must try to abstain from insulting  one another but that is
>> difficult at times.
>>
>> I just think the political commentary must remain away from a list that is
>> geared toward solving problems and not creating them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jose
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Peter Wolfe
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:15 AM
>> To: Christine Szostak; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions
>>
>> David Andrews just informed me that I'm wrong about the people on this
>> list not being NFB people. Your wrong about the judgemental peopple
>> though perhaps not on this list as I don't know on this list though.
>>
>> On 6/27/10, Christine Szostak <szostak.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>   I am really confused as to why you have decided to be a member of a
>>> list
>>> created  by people in the organization you portray so much disgust
>>> toward.
>> I
>>> am an ACB-er by nature, but I have high respect for those in the NFB and
>> am
>>> starting to feel offended by these egregious statements when people are
>>> clearly showing their willingness to help and not judge.
>>>
>>>   My personal recommendation,is that if you have that much distrust in
>>> and
>>> dislike of the attitudes of members of the NFB, you might want to
>>> consider
>>> joining a different list.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 8:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions
>>>
>>>
>>> I want the informatyou have to give. You got me all wrong and it's
>>> funny how most NFB people are this way with no comprimise and willing
>>> to throw people out on the rug cause it's not their way. Was I
>>> directing it at you sir? No, I wasn't merelyt wanting understanding
>>> and a little background into the real America that nobody sees on a
>>> day to day bases. I won't get into the details with the prevledged few
>>> in this nation of arrogant individuals. Reminder: I wasn't talking
>>> about you more like gearing it towards the people that might roam on
>>> this list like other e-mail list to clearly point out my stance and
>>> that of most americans against their self-centerism is killing
>>> education in this nation.
>>>
>>> cordially,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 6/27/10, Birkir Rúnar Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If you are truly interested in math-related issues I will post back to
>>>> this list with a few thoughts, if you are using the questions for
>>>> pseudo political preaching, I would wish you to take it elsewhere.
>>>> I find math difficult and applicable because it teaches abstract
>>>> thinking, perhapds better than any other subject. Being a programmer
>>>> is to learn to solve problems in a certain way and approach the task
>>>> from a computer perspective. Therefore you may not use math directly
>>>> in many of your jobs (I used it little in my 4 years of programming
>>>> work) but what you learn from the math courses and the concept and
>>>> strategies are essential for many types of programming.
>>>> So, please tune down the attitude or post those thoughts in a
>>>> different avenue, if you are, indeed, ready to talk math I will post
>>>> back with a few more thoughts.
>>>> cheers
>>>> -B
>>>>
>>>> On 6/27/10, Roopakshi Pathania <r_akshi_tgk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One area where serious Math like integration and differentiation and
>>>>> sometimes even Physics is needed is Gaming.
>>>>> I suppose even blind programmers could work on certain aspects of
>>>>> games,
>>>>> but
>>>>> can't say if they do in the real world.
>>>>> Of course good audio games would also require Math.
>>>>>
>>>>> Continuing with Shane's example, automating platforms that deal with
>> data
>>>>> should in my understanding require calculus
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there is programming mathematical, financial, and physics
>>>>> models.
>>>>> If the model deals with calculus in some way, I suppose the programmer
>>>>> should know about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A typical calculus problem in the course I took anyway
>>>>>> might be 10 or so steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you move on to integration and Differential Equations, problems
>>>>> can
>>>>> become longer.
>>>>> Trig identities and set theory proofs can also be longer, but that is
>> not
>>>>> Calculus.
>>>>> Or just may be I'm imagining things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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