[Blindmath] Nemeth code algebra, ttrig and calculus books for loan?

[Steve Jacobson]

Peter,

I won't say anything more on this after this note.  I truly do feel for your financial problems, but the fact is that most blind 
people going to college, even without major debt, could not affort to pay to get braille or even audio books on their own.  
Some states tend to be tighter than others, and I can't say how tight your state is.  However, part of the federal laws are 
intended to allow state agencies to help with book costs, and the college you attend also has some responsibilities.  I 
was not saying you need a private transcriber, but rather, I was referring to the fact that there are organizations that do 
transcribing to assist with textbooks.  There is such an agency in Minnesota, for example, but they charge for out-of-
state borrowing, and they give priority to persons in-state for transcribing new books.  You didn't say if you have 
contacted your college yet, but you will have to make some contacts to find out what is available already transcribed 
and also if you have any options to get something transcribed.  Your VR counselor may not be of much help, but 
sometimes you have to "play the game" to get whatever help is available, but that option won't work until you know 
what the college is able to do.  I know RFBD has produced some books primarily with audio but with braille 
supplements, and that might be worth investigating.  Some publishers will provide electronic copies of their books, but it 
can be problematic with math.  I believe it is the American Printing House for the Blind that maintains the database of all 
books that have been transcribed by organizations around the country.  NLS does very little of this kind of work.  I just 
don't know what else to say, but I fear if you don't look at some of these other issues very soon, you won't have any 
texts in nemeth and the practice will be of little value.  I truly hope things work out for you, and maybe there are people 
on this list who live nearer to you who can make more specific suggestions than I am able to make.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:51:37 -0500, Peter Wolfe wrote:

>Steve,



>    I'm trying to see how the nemeth code will look like for
>orientation purposes and for the pracctice in my rusty abilities in
>math. I haven't done serious math in almost three years. I have a VR
>counsuler and they are mainly only good in most cases with financial
>support. With the down turn in the economy and my personal financial
>restraints the other option would also be thrown out too. Looking at
>someone transcribing for me is probably way way too expensive for the
>normal blind college student. I also have a house with other debt
>credit card issues and an apartment with utilities including a
>dependent  brother as well. So, needless to say financial restraints
>are a huge problem.

>On 7/17/10, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> What kind of books are you requesting?  Are you looking for books to learn
>> the Nemeth Code or to see how it is used?
>> Have you made contact with the college you will be attending to see if they
>> can help you find out what books you will
>> be needing?  There are databases around that can be searched to see if a
>> given book has been brailled by anyone.
>> Do you have a Vocational Rehabilitation case open with your state agency?
>> Part of what they might be able to do is to
>> help with purchasing braille copies of the books you will need if they are
>> available.  They probably would not buy books
>> for practice, though.  There are some places that will transcribe books for
>> you, but they need lead time and I don't know
>> who serves your state.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:56:10 -0600, Peter Wolfe wrote:
>>
>>>Blind Math list,
>>
>>
>>>    It's me Peter with about a month to go, I am trying to find a
>>>place to have nemeth code braille math books for loan from? I tried
>>>NLS and they have utterly blasted me out of the water via the
>>>telephone. I don't have the kind of money to purchase that sort of
>>>mammoth priced math information either. Most blind people don't have
>>>it either. I'd appreciate any help in this regard. By the way, when
>>>you guys finished your first calculus book, did you keep your notes
>>>and books for the next calculus? Thanks for any hints and tips like
>>>always.
>>
>>
>>>God bless,
>>>Peter, AS
>>
>>>--
>>>Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
>>>sunspot005 at gmail.com
>>
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