[Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions

Sun Jun 27 19:40:00 UTC 2010

The challenge of learning math with no sight versus partial sight are that 
(1) the difficulty in getting advanced textbooks in tactile format, and (2) 
the difficulty in learning in a different format from the instructor -- most 
instructors don't know Nemeth notation and don't want to learn, and so even 
if a student has a transcribed textbook, he/she can may have no way of 
preparing homework assignments for the instructor.
Tactile graphics are also hard and expensive to prepare.
With recent advancements in computerized math instruction and braille 
devices like displays and embossers, the problem is correcting itself slowly 
as people work to unify mathematical representations and better and cheaper 
devices are being developed.
If you know grade2 braille and have that much desire to learn, you will do 
well I'm sure.
Too bad you're not a capitalist; your ambition would take you far in the 
business world*snicker*
Yes I am on the faith-talk list, and I stand up for what I believe in 
whether it agrees with you or not; but I think we have much that we agree on 
if you wouldn't flame so indiscriminantly.
Good luck in your math studies.
--le


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
To: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; "Blind Math list for those interested in 
mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions


I don't know nemeth code at all if that is what you mean by braille
proficiency. I know the Grade One and Two fluently. What do you think
are the unique challenges imposed on the sightless as opposed to the
partially sighted? I want to know how visual the concepts as I didn't
graduate high school and got my general education diploma. Actually
the class struggle and division with about 50% in all major urban
areas of drop outs and a third nationally this is fairly common place.
Judge us middle to upper class cause you don't understand us anymore.
There must be two America's from a structuralist prospective and
capitalism has yet again failed us.
     I'm trying to see about the geometry involved in calculus and
linear algebra? Is it more like algebra or more like geometry? How
long are the problems on the page or pages? I am willing to do almost
anything to learn the material. Moreover, what do you think that blind
programmers must reproduce at work from what they learned in calculus
and linear algebra? This in my opinion is what should guide the
discussion about calculus and advanced mathematics cause if not just
make up a temporary system till you finish with passing grades and go
about it. Lots of my college classes that I've had and surely I will
have in this process of engineering revolve around eliminating
candidates to inflate ranking rarity of degree and that is it. The
whole notion that any of this even according to a NASA software
engineer attest to this online. You aren't that guy from the Faith
list are you? The little bugger that doesn't want to stand for morals?

sincerely,
Peter, AS

On 6/26/10, qubit <lauraeaves at yahoo.com> wrote:
> No one is going to fault you with being proactive in getting the things 
> you
> need for your classes.
> Are you a proficient braille reader?  would you be interested in learning
> latex to produce the math that your instructor requires for homework?
> There are many solutions but nothing universal has yet been produced as a
> standard for blind access to technical books. However there are people on
> this list who I'm sure will give you many avenues to look into.
> I majored in math and computer science when I still had some vision and
> could read magnified print.  It is a whole different world if you have to 
> do
> it only in speech and braaille.
> I tutored all the way through college. It has been a while, but if you run
> into any calculus or linear algebra problems that you can't solve, feel 
> free
> to email me privately and I'll see if I can help.
> Happy reading.
> --le
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:19 PM
> Subject: [Blindmath] Colllege calculus Questions
>
>
> --
> Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
> To Blind NFB Math e-mail list members and others:
>
>
>     My name is Peter, who is a sophomore at a major four year
> university in the south eastern portion of the U.S.A. My major is
> going to be computer science with no minor picked or needed at this
> point in the game right now. I've only taken precalculus at my former
> college and forgot all of it now. I've ordered nemeth code, algebra,
> trig and a calculus book from NLS but with no luck after threee weeks
> for nemeth code and my pen commandments book. I've heard from a
> professor in Massachusetts and from a government institution that RFB
> and D can help me out with math and science in audio. I've not been
> blind for most of my life, so I want your take on my situation on what
> is the most affective way to learn calculus I, II, and III with linear
> algebra in a college level being blind? I don't read print and use
> Window-Eyes version 7.2. I have a talking scientific calculator and
> have about two more months till the fall semester and might have a
> tutor for the fall if I need one. Thanks for any help you can suggest
> or whatever.
> note: any arrogant NFB people don't comment cause I won't listen to
> anymore rude and arrogant NFB members claiming that others are either
> lazy, inferior or whatever your egomanics think of yourselves cause at
> one point we have had all help at one juncture in our lives in this
> respect.
>
> gracias,
> Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
>
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-- 
Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
sunspot005 at gmail.com