[Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Sun Nov 21 09:30:34 UTC 2010

Hi Ramana,
I did get it working, but experienced the same issues you did when trying to copy and paste. Other challenges, like successfully taking notes from this material or adding notes in Nemeth to it if I do get it into a .brf format, still remain. I'll do some more digging and get back to the list, as this may be of interest.
Sarah

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ramana Polavarapu
Sent: November 21, 2010 4:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Sarah:

It appears to me that you have not installed MathPlayer.  Please download it from here:
http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/download.htm?src=mplogo
Let me know if you face any other problems.  

Regards,

Ramana

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Jevnikar
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2010 14:40
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Ramana,
When I opened this file, all I heard was what you tried to copy and paste. Could it be something wrong with my IE and JAWS configuration? I'm using IE 8 with JAWS 11.
Thank you for all your help,
Sarah

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ramana Polavarapu
Sent: November 21, 2010 2:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Sarah:

This is what I have exactly heard in IE:
The Gamma density function

The Gamma density function 

 f,  open x  close,  equals. Fraction x super  alpha  minus 1, end superscript. E super  minus x  slash  beta, end superscript over,  cap gamma,  open  alpha  close.  Beta super  alpha, end fraction.  Comma for  x  greater than 0

However, I could not copy and paste it.  When I have attempted to copy and paste, this is what I have got:
The Gamma density function

f( x )= x α−1 e −x/β Γ( α ) β α , for x>0 MathType at MTEF@5 at 5@+=feaaguart1ev2aqatCvAUfeBSjuyZL2yd9gzLbvyNv2CaerbbjxAHXgaruavP1wzZbItLDhis9wBH5garmWu51MyVX

Thank you and talk to you soon.

Regards,

Ramana

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Jevnikar
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2010 12:49
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Ramana,
>From my limited knowledge of LaTeX, this looks like it's the right formula.
Perhaps I don't know math type/math ml well enough. How did you know that's what it meant?
Thanks for your help,
Sarah
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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ramana Polavarapu
Sent: November 21, 2010 2:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Sarah:

I am not playing with Gamma density functions much these days.  From what I have heard through Jaws, I have got the following:
$f(x) = \frac{x^{\alpha-1} \times e^{-x/\beta}}{\gamma(\alpha) \times \beta^{\alpha}}$, where $x > 0$.
Of course, I have translated it into LaTeX.  

Regards,

Ramana

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Jevnikar
Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2010 12:10
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Hi Birkir and all,
I sent Birkir's instructions to my professor who returned the following file.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12727315/MathTypeSample1.xht

It looks strange to me, but is there something I'm missing?

Thank you for your help,
Sarah

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Birkir Rúnar Gunnarsson
Sent: November 20, 2010 4:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files

Sarah

If your professor uses Math Type in Word he can export the Word document as MathPage, which will be a .xht file (.xhtml). The trick with MathPlayer is that it only works with Internet Explorer at present (you may want to uninstall, and reinstall it, the current version is 2.2 which has improvements over, e.g. 2.1D).
You should be able to emboss the Word document in braille with Nemeth, at least with ViewPlus, and I think you should be able to do this with Duxbury as well, I will inquie about it.
So, to recap:
Export math type equestions to a Word document.
Save the Word document as Math Page, both document text and Math Type formulas are exported to a single .xht file that you can open in IE with MathPlayer and should read just fine (of course this does not solve the problem of graphs).
>From the same Word document (before it is exported as MathPage) you
should be able to emboss it using one of the pgorams above.
Give it a try and see if this works for you.
I hope MathPlayer will support Word nd/or PDF/Powerpoint in future, it would do away with the extra step and simplify the process.
Thanks and good luck.
-Birkir

On 11/20/10, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Alastair,
> I'll do some googling and find out.
> Sarah
>
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> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
> Behalf Of Alastair Irving
> Sent: November 20, 2010 11:28 AM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Math Type formulas in ppt files
>
> Hi Sarah
>
> I believe that Mathtype supports conversion either into MathML, which 
> you can then read with Mathplayer, or LaTeX, which can then be read 
> directly.  Its some time since I used mathtype so I can't tell you how 
> to actually perform the conversions, maybe you'll have to convert to 
> Microsoft Word first.
>
> Alastair
>
>
>
> On 20/11/2010 14:57, Sarah Jevnikar wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> My professor posts lecture slides online using math type for the
formulas,
>> saving them as powerpoint and pdf files. Is there anything I can do 
>> with these files to make them readable with JAWS? He's offered to 
>> convert them
> to
>> Microsoft word; would this help? I have Math Player, but have never 
>> been able to get it working. I also have dbt 10.4.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Thank you,
>> Sarah
>>
>>
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