[Blindmath] Question on MathML accessibility with Kurzweil 3000

Wed Sep 8 03:56:22 UTC 2010

I believe that the problem is that you need to use IE, not Firefox when
reading math.  From
http://www.kurzweiledu.com/files/v12/Kurzweil%203000%20Reference%20Guide.pdf

Reading Web Pages
The Read the Web feature lets you read Web sites using Kurzweil 3000 and one
of two browsers:
Internet Explorer (7 or 8), or Mozilla Firefox. While reading the Web, you
have access to Kurzweil
3000 reading and reference tools. If you want to use Mozilla Firefox, see
online Help or the Installation
and Administration Guide for installation instructions
Kurzweil 3000 includes Design Science MathPlayer™ to support Mathematical
Mark Up Language
(MathML). When using Read the Web in Internet Explorer you can read
Mathematical notation.
To read Web site content:
1. Click the Read the Web button in the Main toolbar, or from the Read menu,
select
Read the Web.
The Web browser opens and connects to your home page. In Internet Explorer,
the Kurzweil
3000 Read the Web toolbar appears at the bottom of the browser. In Firefox,
the Read the
Web toolbar appears below the browser toolbars.
2. Click the Read button to begin reading.
3. Look up a word by selecting it, then clicking the desired Look Up button
in the toolbar.
Change Reading Mode, Read By Unit, and WPM Reading Speed.
Magnify the current word by clicking the button. (Internet Explorer only.)
To read Math and Science notation in Internet Explorer:
Be sure you have Read the Web enabled and you are using Internet Explorer.
Left-click the notation. Kurzweil 3000 reads the notation. At any time, you
can click again to reread
it or click elsewhere to stop reading it.
A Right Mouse Button menu is also available and includes Zoom and Copy.

Note:  we hope to expand MathPlayer to work with Firefox sometime
soon(ish).  I'm sure that once we get that working, K3000 will soon follow
suite and allow you to use Firefox.  Until then, you'll need to use IE.

Neil Soiffer
Senior Scientist
Design Science, Inc.
www.dessci.com
~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Tom Tillo <tomtillo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Birkir and Paul .
>
> K3000 v12 claims to read ML ( atleast thats what I saw in their official
> literature ).
> It has the , I quote,   "Ability to read MathML through a partnership with
> Design Science, Inc"
> It does have the FineReader engine in it , but not the OCR for math
> characters, for which one has to depend on Infty Reader. ( Iam just trying
> to see if I can make K3000  read pages which already have MathML embedded
> into them ) - So far I have been unsuccessful , and I believe its something
> tiny that Iam missing.
>
> MathPlayer does read MathML but I use it in conjunction with a screen
> reader
> to read the whole page. ( As far as I understand, Mathplayer only reads
> anything between the <math> ... </math> tags . ) Am wondering if they have
> exposed its APIs to be used by a developer, so that I could develop
> something with eSpeak+ VB + mathPlayer APIs. ( To make something that can
> read just webpages with MathML in it )
>
> Any inputs are welcome .
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:25 PM, PR Stanley <prstanley at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, the commandline version of the InftyReader is totally free! If
> > anyone wants a copy please don't hesitate to drop me a line.
> > Paul
> >
> > At 15:49 04/09/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >>  Tom
> >>
> >> I am confused.
> >> I thought MathPlayer from Design Science was what you were looking
> >> for. Plays math ml and it is freeware.
> >> I did not know that K3000 played math ml, in any case I find that
> >> product just very expensive, even if it is a good scanner.
> >> For math scanning I'd go with Infty Reader, it is less expensive and I
> >> know they have student pricing.
> >> Thanks
> >> -Birkir
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/4/10, Tom Tillo <tomtillo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi All ,
> >> >
> >> > I have downloaded the trial version of Kurzweil 3000 ( version  12 )
> >> since I
> >> > read that it has extended support for mathml. I tried it out with
> >> several
> >> > sites with MathML embedded in them , but was unable to read the MathML
> >> bit.
> >> > It fails to recognise the math characters. (Even with the firefox
> >> extension
> >> > for K3000 - kesireader.xpi )
> >> >
> >> > I guess Iam overlooking/missing something small. If any one of you
> have
> >> > tried to read mathML using K3000, can you please fill in the missing
> >> link
> >> > for me ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks and Regards
> >> > Tom
> >> > tomtillo at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > P.S: On a different topic - Has anyone tried to link eSpeak / any
> SAPI5s
> >> > compliant synthesisers with the MathPlayer APIs ? I was thinking ..
>  it
> >> > could be developed into a *FREE* reader for MathML, like that provided
> >> by
> >> > K3000 .
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