[Blindmath] Question on MathML accessibility with Kurzweil 3000
cnsbaker at access.k12.wv.us
cnsbaker at access.k12.wv.us
Fri Sep 10 14:10:33 UTC 2010
Hello Neil,
Would you mind sending me the steps to read mathML pages with Kurzweil?
I am an aide for a blind and a low vision student both still in high school but one is taking college Algebra this semester and Trig next semester. Their vision teacher has been teaching them to use Kurzweil.
I have been sending all the info about reading graphs to them that everyone has been suggesting and they are researching them.
My e-mail is: cnsbaker at access.k12.wv.us
Thanks,
Constanza S. Baker
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Tillo <tomtillo at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 9:36 am
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Question on MathML accessibility with Kurzweil 3000
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Hi Niel ,
>
> Thanks for the steps to read mathML Pages with Kurzweil. ( Yeah I was
> using
> Firefox. ). Will try it out with the steps you have provided.
>
> Jamal ,
> I had tried the command line version, and it *worked* with the sample
> files
> provided with the bundle.
> As the documentation says all you have to do is to point to the directory
> where the input files are. Am sure you must have tried with the
> sample file.
> ( in the rare case you haven't, have pasted the command line options
> that
> *worked* for me .
>
> Having said that, When I tried with another scanned file ( tiff, 600
> dpi,
> binary ) it gives the error -
> "Infty Reader can accept only binary files" ,
> Though the same input file *works fine* with the GUI version of the
> InftyReader (version 2.8.3.1 )
> Am not sure why , and as you rightly mentioned , if there is a doc on
> the
> best practices while using the command line version , it would have been
> great .
>
> ( Iam still trying with various conversions and with various threshold
> settings while converting into a binary file . )
>
> Regards
> Tom
>
> Command line options that worked.
> eg : from command line,
> inftyReader D:\InftyReaderE244e_Setup\Samples ( WORKS )
> where D:\InftyReaderE244e_Setup\Samples is the location of the input
> files .
> default output is .iml
> ( if there are more than one input file, it merges the output into a
> single
> .iml file )
>
> There is a whole lot of options available on the output type.
> eg inftyReader D:\InftyReaderE244e_Setup\Samples -f iml ( WORKS )
> inftyReader D:\InftyReaderE244e_Setup\Samples
> -f tex and -f hrtex works fine too but not -f html . ( it crashes while
> trying to write the file )
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Jamal Mazrui <empower at smart.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> > Unfortunately, I have never gotten the command line version to work,
> > despite many hours of effort tinkering with settings. Even with
> file types
> > the documentation says are valid input, the program either does not
> > recognize them or crashes early in the OCR process. I have tried various
> > ways of converting from PDF to TIF or other input formats without success.
> > Please consider writing a tutorial on how to use the command line
> version
> > successfully with PDFs and any other free tools that are needed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jamal
> >
> >
> > On 9/4/2010 10:55 AM, PR Stanley wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, the commandline version of the InftyReader is totally
> free! If
> >> anyone wants a copy please don't hesitate to drop me a line.
> >> Paul
> >> At 15:49 04/09/2010, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> I am confused.
> >>> I thought MathPlayer from Design Science was what you were looking
> >>> for. Plays math ml and it is freeware.
> >>> I did not know that K3000 played math ml, in any case I find that
> >>> product just very expensive, even if it is a good scanner.
> >>> For math scanning I'd go with Infty Reader, it is less expensive
> and I
> >>> know they have student pricing.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -Birkir
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/4/10, Tom Tillo <tomtillo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hi All ,
> >>> >
> >>> > I have downloaded the trial version of Kurzweil 3000 ( version
> 12 )
> >>> since I
> >>> > read that it has extended support for mathml. I tried it out with
> >>> several
> >>> > sites with MathML embedded in them , but was unable to read the
> >>> MathML bit.
> >>> > It fails to recognise the math characters. (Even with the firefox
> >>> extension
> >>> > for K3000 - kesireader.xpi )
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess Iam overlooking/missing something small. If any one of
> you have
> >>> > tried to read mathML using K3000, can you please fill in the missing
> >>> link
> >>> > for me ?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks and Regards
> >>> > Tom
> >>> > tomtillo at gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S: On a different topic - Has anyone tried to link eSpeak / any
> >>> SAPI5s
> >>> > compliant synthesisers with the MathPlayer APIs ? I was
> thinking .. it
> >>> > could be developed into a *FREE* reader for MathML, like that
> >>> provided by
> >>> > K3000 .
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