[Blindmath] mathplayer, jaws, and math in graphics?

Sun Apr 3 00:48:02 UTC 2011

I've been researching this area a lot to figure out what's going to
work the best in  math or science courses.

It looks like based on activity here, www.Access2Science.com and
others; MathML and LaTeX
the two formats for this area.

MathML looks like it's  more for authoring and presenting content,
which requires specific browsers, plug-ins, and screen readers.
There's a lot of syntax and tagging that's involved, which very much
looks like HTML.

LaTeX seems to be what publishers and users use to produce and consume
and is a much friendly format to work with. It seems  that LaTeX has
been around for much longer and is a better area to place more time
and energy on.

Am I completely off base with MathML and LaTeX?

Please clarify of what's best to use when working with math and
science college courses.

Thanks,

Kevin

On 4/2/11, Alex Hall <mehgcap at gmail.com> wrote:
> That will be quite helpful, thanks!
>
> On 4/2/11, John Gardner <john.gardner at orst.edu> wrote:
>> If you want to learn math Latex, there is a good tutorial and a basically
>> complete set of Latex math tables linked from
>> http://www.access2science.com
>> John
>>
>>
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>> On
>> Behalf Of PR Stanley
>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 3:57 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] mathplayer, jaws, and math in graphics?
>>
>> The Latex source on wikibook and wikipedia is an absolute godsend.
>> it really isn't that hard to learn Latex. If anyone need to learn it
>> for a college/university course, please don't hesitate to get in
>> touch with me offlist.
>> Paul
>>
>> At 23:31 02/04/2011, you wrote:
>>>I have run into this on many sites, including bitg ones like wikibooks
>>>and wikipedia, so it would be no small thing for them to convert. It
>>>is a shame that this will not work!
>>>
>>>On 4/2/11, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > MathPlayer can only render MathML (not LaTeX) at this time, and only
>>> > into speech (not into braille). It will show refreshable braille on
>>> > the screen, but it will be the text string that it speaks, such as
>>> > "Ay squared minus 3 x."
>>> >
>>> > A LaTeX source will not help in this regard, and MathML is not very
>>> > suitable for alt text.
>>> > I believe there are Jaws scripts being developed that turn LaTeX
>>> > source code into spoken math (Jose knows more on this and I can dig up
>>> > all the info and send it to you off-list).
>>> > That would probably be your best bet.
>>> > The other option would be to encourage the page designers to use
>>> > MathML to create the images, and you can use MathPlayer to play them.
>>> > They can check out MathJax (http://www.mathjax.org) for a way to
>>> > create good looking math based on MathML that works in every browser
>>> > that support Javascript.
>>> > None of the MathML solutions will get you Nemeth code, however, a Word
>>> > document with the math in it can be translated to Nemeth and embossed
>>> > via Duxbury DBT 11.1 or ViewPlus TSS.
>>> > hth
>>> > -Birkir
>>> >
>>> > On 4/2/11, PR Stanley <prstanley at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> >> could you send us a sample?
>>> >>
>>> >> At 22:49 02/04/2011, you wrote:
>>> >>>Hi all,
>>> >>>I am trying to read some math notation. As is increasingly common,
>>> >>>this notation is in a graphic and has its alt tag set to what appears
>>> >>>to be latex notation. I downloaded Math Player, but it does not even
>>> >>>show up in the list of add-ons (this is ie8, and I did restart the
>>> >>>browser). I just want to read math without all the backslashes,
>>> >>>braces, and commands (vec, frac, and all those). As it stands, I
>>> >>>usually have no idea what the image is trying to say, which, of
>>> >>>course, does me no good at all. I am using jaws 12.
>>> >>>
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