[Blindmath] UEB again (was Braille code urgency)

[Sina Bahram]

I also don't understand why the problem has to be trivialized into complaints such as the letters of the alphabet can't represent
numbers. Is there research about the cognitive load on users of Nemeth, for example, versus another code? Are there cognitive models
built which are based upon actual perceptual psychology, store/recall, or other experimentally validated data that support such a
claim?

A real mathematician, I feel, would balk at signing a petition when so many general claims exist. As a researcher, I find myself
asking, where's the how/why of it? where's the science to back up one over the other? Where's the actual research that shows how a
system for mathematics should be designed based on first principles instead of on anecdotal common wisdom?

Take care,
Sina

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:27 AM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] UEB again (was Braille code urgency)

I think many of us realize that something has to change, even if we're not sure which route should be followed.  Blind 
kids will have no way to deal with many of the texts in education if we cant bring more of the variations of print to 
braille.  They will get the extra information with screen readers instead even if it is less effective.  This isn't a simple 
issue and the future path isn't clear, but just clinging to the past won't work, either.  Send opinions to BANA if you 
have obvious solutions, but the world is changing, print is changing, and we have to find a way for braille to change in 
an organized and reasonable way.  I'm not saying I know which code is best because I truly don't know, but we have 
to take this on as a challenge to our ingenuity and not just kick and scream and wish that the world stopped changing 
in 1960.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:53:35 -0500, Susan Mooney wrote:

>I don't understand why the consumers don't revolt and put their feet firmly
>down.  Where's the rally from the braille readers themselves?

>SM

>On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Susan Jolly <easjolly at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> Those of us who oppose the UEB have tried many tactics and written many
>> words explaining its problems. None of these have worked.
>>
>> I'm wondering if the best tactic is to enlist sighted mathematicians and
>> math teachers to create some sort of manifesto.  One need know nothing
>> about Braille or tactile reading to clearly state that one cannot
>> effectively either understand or do mathematics with a writing system that
>> uses same characters for the decimal digits as for certain letters of the
>> alphabet.  Adoption of the UEB would mean assuming that Braille users have
>> no need to understand mathematics.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Susan Jolly
>>
>> Sent from my wonderful iPad
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