[Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
Sean Loraas
sloraas at austincc.edu
Mon Jul 11 22:39:29 UTC 2011
I didn't see one option, which is nice because it's free!
Mathtrax from NASA, is a freeware graphing tool ..."to graph equations,
physics simulations or plot data files. The graphs have descriptions and
sound so you can hear and read about the graph. Blind and low vision users
can access visual math data and graph or experiment with equations and
datasets." -from the mathtrax website. The program will play an auditory
version of the graph with different sound data for x and y intercepts,
increasing and decreasing data, and it also generates a verbal description
of the data. You can import data sets from a text file, which is what i
believe you are looking for Iddo. It is also accessible to screen readers!
Hope this helps.
Website: http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax/index.html
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> 1. Re: analyze of experimental results (Ken Perry)
> 2. Re: analyze of experimental results (Richard Baldwin)
> 3. Re: analyze of experimental results (Iddo Keret)
> 4. Re: analyze of experimental results (Iddo Keret)
> 5. Re: analyze of experimental results (Ken Perry)
> 6. Re: analyze of experimental results (Ken Perry)
> 7. Re: analyze of experimental results (Iddo Keret)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:17:43 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> You could use:
>
> The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
> calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
> low
> vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable of
> displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
> audibly
> as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots comparable
> to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
> accessible
> in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
> Information]-----Original Message-----
>
>
> You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so that
> you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
> closely stepped table of values can give you.
>
> Ken
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
> hi all,
> i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
> in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
> the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
> numbers)
> does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
> maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
> graph ?
> does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student at
> scientific area ?
> any information or suggestion will be appreciate
> iddo keret
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:51:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> I will ramble on here a bit with a few ideas for you to try.
>
> If you can get that data into an image file, such as a JPG file, the vOICe
> Learning Edition software at http://www.artificialvision.com/ will convert
> it to audio.
>
> If you have it as a printed graph and you have a webcam, such as are often
> built into laptop computers, (or a static digital camera) and a sighted
> friend to assist you, you can take a picture of it, save it in a graphics
> file, and then play it with the vOICe software. (You may need to clean it
> up
> first using graphics software as described below.)
>
> If you need a way to analyze the graph using touch, ask your friend to use
> the Trace Bitmap feature on the Path menu of the free InkScape software to
> convert it into an svg file. Then ask your friend to use the InkScape
> software to add gridlines, tic marks, or anything else that may be needed,
> use the Flip Horizontal item on the InkScape Object menu, enlarge it to fit
> the largest printer that you have access to, print it, emboss it using a
> serrated tracing wheel and give you the embossed image.
>
> If you are fortunate enough to have access to a ViewPlus graphic embossing
> printer, download the free IVEO Viewer software, open the svg file produced
> by InkScape in the Viewer software and print it on the ViewPlus graphic
> embosser.
>
> Insofar as getting that data into an image file, my first thought is to ask
> your friend import it into a spreadsheet program and graph it. If the
> spreadsheet program doesn't have the ability to write it as an output
> graphic file, display it in maximum size on the screen, press
> Shift-PrintScreen (Windows) to copy it onto the clipboard and then paste it
> into any of a number of free graphic programs such as Paint.net. Use that
> program to trim off the excess garbage and write it back out as a jpg, png,
> bmp, or other graphic file for further processing.
>
> I will be interested in the solutions proposed by others on this list.
>
> Dick Baldwin
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Ken Perry <kperry at blinksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > You could use:
> >
> > The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
> > calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
> > low
> > vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
> of
> > displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
> > audibly
> > as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
> comparable
> > to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
> > accessible
> > in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
> > Information]-----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so
> that
> > you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
> > closely stepped table of values can give you.
> >
> > Ken
> > From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Iddo Keret
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> >
> > hi all,
> > i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
> > in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
> > the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
> > numbers)
> > does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
> > maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
> > graph ?
> > does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student
> at
> > scientific area ?
> > any information or suggestion will be appreciate
> > iddo keret
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Iddo Keret <iddokt at netvision.net.il>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:14:38 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> hi,
> thank you Ken for your answer.
> its encourage me .
> can i understand that with those methods you mentioned, blind people can
> analyze data at level wich scientists required?
> iddo
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
>
> You could use:
>>
>> The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
>> calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>> low
>> vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
>> of
>> displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
>> audibly
>> as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
>> comparable
>> to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
>> accessible
>> in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
>> Information]-----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so that
>> you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
>> closely stepped table of values can give you.
>>
>> Ken
>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces@**nfbnet.org<blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>>
>> hi all,
>> i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
>> in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
>> the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
>> numbers)
>> does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
>> maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
>> graph ?
>> does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student at
>> scientific area ?
>> any information or suggestion will be appreciate
>> iddo keret
>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Iddo Keret <iddokt at netvision.net.il>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:42:35 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> thank you Richard for your answer
> iddo
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Baldwin" <
> baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>
> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
>
> I will ramble on here a bit with a few ideas for you to try.
>>
>> If you can get that data into an image file, such as a JPG file, the vOICe
>> Learning Edition software at http://www.artificialvision.**com/<http://www.artificialvision.com/>will convert
>> it to audio.
>>
>> If you have it as a printed graph and you have a webcam, such as are often
>> built into laptop computers, (or a static digital camera) and a sighted
>> friend to assist you, you can take a picture of it, save it in a graphics
>> file, and then play it with the vOICe software. (You may need to clean it
>> up
>> first using graphics software as described below.)
>>
>> If you need a way to analyze the graph using touch, ask your friend to use
>> the Trace Bitmap feature on the Path menu of the free InkScape software to
>> convert it into an svg file. Then ask your friend to use the InkScape
>> software to add gridlines, tic marks, or anything else that may be needed,
>> use the Flip Horizontal item on the InkScape Object menu, enlarge it to
>> fit
>> the largest printer that you have access to, print it, emboss it using a
>> serrated tracing wheel and give you the embossed image.
>>
>> If you are fortunate enough to have access to a ViewPlus graphic embossing
>> printer, download the free IVEO Viewer software, open the svg file
>> produced
>> by InkScape in the Viewer software and print it on the ViewPlus graphic
>> embosser.
>>
>> Insofar as getting that data into an image file, my first thought is to
>> ask
>> your friend import it into a spreadsheet program and graph it. If the
>> spreadsheet program doesn't have the ability to write it as an output
>> graphic file, display it in maximum size on the screen, press
>> Shift-PrintScreen (Windows) to copy it onto the clipboard and then paste
>> it
>> into any of a number of free graphic programs such as Paint.net. Use that
>> program to trim off the excess garbage and write it back out as a jpg,
>> png,
>> bmp, or other graphic file for further processing.
>>
>> I will be interested in the solutions proposed by others on this list.
>>
>> Dick Baldwin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Ken Perry <kperry at blinksoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> You could use:
>>>
>>> The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
>>> calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>>> low
>>> vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
>>> of
>>> displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
>>> audibly
>>> as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
>>> comparable
>>> to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
>>> accessible
>>> in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
>>> Information]-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>> You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so
>>> that
>>> you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
>>> closely stepped table of values can give you.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces@**
>>> nfbnet.org <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>> i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
>>> in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
>>> the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
>>> numbers)
>>> does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
>>> maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
>>> graph ?
>>> does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student
>>> at
>>> scientific area ?
>>> any information or suggestion will be appreciate
>>> iddo keret
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:18:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
> It will depend on how much you want to put into it. For example getting
> something like python with the sympy package allows you to do a lot and
> build on to it as well. The octave and maxima projects are in the same
> ball game as Mathmatica. And if you learn to use them yes you can do
> engeneer level stuff . It's not an easy sit down thing though. To get
> everything out of math as a blind person you almost have to put twice as
> much work into it as your sighted counter parts. This is not always a bad
> thing because when you come out of it you're going to be better than them
> it
> just is not going to be as easy.
>
> I want to encourage you all to go to www.aph.org and go to product
> suggestions and suggest tools in math you think you should have. For
> example when I was taking my Calculus classes over 12 years ago the state
> of
> calculators for the blind were about the same as they are now and that is
> just sad when there are companies like APH that could be filling the gap.
>
> Ken
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
> hi,
> thank you Ken for your answer.
> its encourage me .
> can i understand that with those methods you mentioned, blind people can
> analyze data at level wich scientists required?
> iddo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
>
> > You could use:
> >
> > The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
> > calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
> > low
> > vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
> > of
> > displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
> > audibly
> > as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
> > comparable
> > to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
> > accessible
> > in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
> > Information]-----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so
> that
> > you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
> > closely stepped table of values can give you.
> >
> > Ken
> > From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Iddo Keret
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> >
> > hi all,
> > i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
> > in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
> > the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
> > numbers)
> > does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
> > maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
> > graph ?
> > does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student
> at
> > scientific area ?
> > any information or suggestion will be appreciate
> > iddo keret
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:26:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> The tiger Braille printers also use graphics mode so they should be able
> to
> print a graph no problem.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:52 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
> I will ramble on here a bit with a few ideas for you to try.
>
> If you can get that data into an image file, such as a JPG file, the vOICe
> Learning Edition software at http://www.artificialvision.com/ will convert
> it to audio.
>
> If you have it as a printed graph and you have a webcam, such as are often
> built into laptop computers, (or a static digital camera) and a sighted
> friend to assist you, you can take a picture of it, save it in a graphics
> file, and then play it with the vOICe software. (You may need to clean it
> up
> first using graphics software as described below.)
>
> If you need a way to analyze the graph using touch, ask your friend to use
> the Trace Bitmap feature on the Path menu of the free InkScape software to
> convert it into an svg file. Then ask your friend to use the InkScape
> software to add gridlines, tic marks, or anything else that may be needed,
> use the Flip Horizontal item on the InkScape Object menu, enlarge it to fit
> the largest printer that you have access to, print it, emboss it using a
> serrated tracing wheel and give you the embossed image.
>
> If you are fortunate enough to have access to a ViewPlus graphic embossing
> printer, download the free IVEO Viewer software, open the svg file produced
> by InkScape in the Viewer software and print it on the ViewPlus graphic
> embosser.
>
> Insofar as getting that data into an image file, my first thought is to ask
> your friend import it into a spreadsheet program and graph it. If the
> spreadsheet program doesn't have the ability to write it as an output
> graphic file, display it in maximum size on the screen, press
> Shift-PrintScreen (Windows) to copy it onto the clipboard and then paste it
> into any of a number of free graphic programs such as Paint.net. Use that
> program to trim off the excess garbage and write it back out as a jpg, png,
> bmp, or other graphic file for further processing.
>
> I will be interested in the solutions proposed by others on this list.
>
> Dick Baldwin
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Ken Perry <kperry at blinksoft.com> wrote:
>
> > You could use:
> >
> > The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
> > calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
> > low
> > vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
> of
> > displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
> > audibly
> > as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
> comparable
> > to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
> > accessible
> > in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
> > Information]-----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so
> that
> > you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
> > closely stepped table of values can give you.
> >
> > Ken
> > From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Iddo Keret
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> >
> > hi all,
> > i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
> > in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
> > the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
> > numbers)
> > does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
> > maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
> > graph ?
> > does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student
> at
> > scientific area ?
> > any information or suggestion will be appreciate
> > iddo keret
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Iddo Keret <iddokt at netvision.net.il>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <
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> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:28:56 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
> thank you Ken for your suggestion and encourage
> i will try all things you suggest
> iddo
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>
>
>
>> It will depend on how much you want to put into it. For example getting
>> something like python with the sympy package allows you to do a lot and
>> build on to it as well. The octave and maxima projects are in the same
>> ball game as Mathmatica. And if you learn to use them yes you can do
>> engeneer level stuff . It's not an easy sit down thing though. To get
>> everything out of math as a blind person you almost have to put twice as
>> much work into it as your sighted counter parts. This is not always a bad
>> thing because when you come out of it you're going to be better than them
>> it
>> just is not going to be as easy.
>>
>> I want to encourage you all to go to www.aph.org and go to product
>> suggestions and suggest tools in math you think you should have. For
>> example when I was taking my Calculus classes over 12 years ago the state
>> of
>> calculators for the blind were about the same as they are now and that is
>> just sad when there are companies like APH that could be filling the gap.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces@**nfbnet.org<blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:15 PM
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>>
>> hi,
>> thank you Ken for your answer.
>> its encourage me .
>> can i understand that with those methods you mentioned, blind people can
>> analyze data at level wich scientists required?
>> iddo
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>>
>>
>> You could use:
>>>
>>> The ViewPlus Accessible Graphing Calculator (AGC) is an audible graphing
>>> calculator program designed for use by individuals who are blind or have
>>> low
>>> vision or visual dyslexia. This on-screen graphing calculator is capable
>>> of
>>> displaying graphs or other sets of y-versus-x data both visually and
>>> audibly
>>> as a tone graph. The audio tone plot gives users access to plots
>>> comparable
>>> to that on standard graphing calculators. The program is entirely
>>> accessible
>>> in audio through a variety of non-speech sou...[More
>>> Information]-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>> You might though want to also use something like Maxima or octave so
>>> that
>>> you can table the values. You would be amazed at the information of a
>>> closely stepped table of values can give you.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces@**
>>> nfbnet.org <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Iddo Keret
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:00 PM
>>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>> Subject: [Blindmath] analyze of experimental results
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>> i'm student at department of electrical and electronic engineering.
>>> in my studies i have to analyze experimental results
>>> the graph is only 2 variables but there is a lot of data (some thousand
>>> numbers)
>>> does somebody know the tools exist today for blinds to amalyse graphs?
>>> maybe there is a tuch surface or a method to "hear" and understand the
>>> graph ?
>>> does someone have experience whith this as a scientist or a student
>>> at
>>> scientific area ?
>>> any information or suggestion will be appreciate
>>> iddo keret
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