[Blindmath] JMP accessibility

[Ryan Thomas]

Thank you Jonathan.  That was what I was hoping to know.  I realize
that the command line is a useful way to access such software.  The
problem with that is having to learn a scripting language for each
software.  One of the main advantages JMP has is that it's a very
point and click method of doing statistics.  I realize, as a blind
student, that wouldn't be useful to me, but even having menus that I
could look through would decrease the syntax that I'd have to learn to
get something useful from the software.  That, however, is apparently
not the case with JMP since it seems to be inaccessible.

   Sarah, thank you for your comments.  I wasn't claiming that R is
not used in industry.  I just feel that familiarity with a number of
softwares will benefit me more, especially when looking for a job.  It
wasn't my instructors insistance that I look at other programs, but
instead it was my desire to diversify.  I'll probably end up using R
because it's free, I'm familiar with it and it's what works for the
blind.  Jonathan, I'll check out some of the other softwares you've
suggested and I thank you for your list.

Sincerely,
   Ryan

On 8/19/12, Jonathan Godfrey <a.j.godfrey at massey.ac.nz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I decided that I needed to see a bit of JMP for myself.
>
> I went through the (quite long and unnecessary) process of registering with
> SAS who markets JMP and then downloading a large >400 megabyte installer.
>
> I found that JMP was not accessible with Jaws 13 in that it did not read
> anything I typed, did not read dialogue boxes in a sufficiently useful
> manner, and I could not find the way to ensure that if I could have managed
> to get the menus working for me, that I would see the command syntax. I was
> particularly disappointed to be unable to find the command syntax as this
> is
> a key method for us to access event he most GUI oriented statistics
> software.
>
> In my opinion I now rank JMP behind R, SPlus, Stata, SPSS, Minitab and SAS
> for their accessibility. That isn't a ranking list by the way. I put JMP on
> par with Genstat and Statistica which I count as currently useless to blind
> people wishing to work independently. As with any other software
> evaluations
> I do, I had a sighted PhD student with me. She considered JMP confusing as
> compared to other software she uses. (We use Minitab for our teaching).
>
>
> I would love to learn that this product is or could be made accessible as
> it
> includes a host of tools useful to an industrial statistician that are not
> commonly found in Minitab for example. Anything is possible in R of course
> but that's another story.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ryan Thomas
> Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 10:30 a.m.
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] JMP accessibility
>
> Hello all,
>
>    One of my classes is using JMP statistical software this semester.
> I wonder if anyone has used it before and if anyone knows generally how
> accessible it is.  I've never personally used it before.  If anyone knows
> of
> good resources for the blind and JMP I'd also appreciate if you'd send any
> of those in.  I realize that most or all that can be done in JMP can be
> done
> with software such as R, but I'm really hoping to be able to do as much as
> possible in all of the differing software packages most commonly used by
> universities and in industry.  Thanks for your help.
>
> Sincerely,
>    Ryan
>
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