[Blindmath] STATA

Tue Feb 28 10:59:33 UTC 2012

Hello Jonathan
1. I use Stata's main output screen, so removing the variable window was 
indeed important for it; made the screen uncluttered . May be using the 
browser, you didn't need it. How did you get the output displayed on the 
browser?
2. Stat transfer is a good investment for anyone pursuing a research career. 
Stata has other means of importing data, one can import csv, txt and xml 
files directly, and can then order and manipulate the data. It can be 
smoothly done, but depends on the way the original data file was 
constructed.
 Some data sources, such as the World Bank World Development Indicators for 
example, are available directly through Stata command line.
But all this said, I think, one can save lots of time & effort by automating 
data import with Stat transfer.

                        cheers                    Mazhar

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From: "Jonathan Godfrey" <a.j.godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:43 AM
To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" 
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Blindmath] STATA

> Hello Mazhar et al.,
>
> I'd like to ask two questions for clarity.
>
> 1. You said that sighted assistance to get rid of the variables list was 
> needed. I certainly didn't need sighted assistance to set myself up for my 
> experiment in Stata at the Summer University last year. Is this 
> modification actually necessary? Perhaps we circumvented it by working 
> through the browser.
>
> 2. Are you actually serious that extra software is required to get the 
> data into Stata if it is in Excel format? And people pay for it!?
>
> And one comment about code...
>
> I often hear that R has a steep learning curve, especially from sighted 
> people who want to point and click a mouse around the menus. If a blind 
> person is going to use most statistical software (fully) they are going to 
> need either great access to the menus, or learn the syntax, possibly both. 
> I don't know of any statistical software that can claim to not have a 
> steep learning curve when it comes to the command syntax. For me, the 
> issue is whether I can get at resources that will help me when I get into 
> trouble with coding. This is now my main criticism for those people who 
> may want to use Minitab or SPSS, which if you are prepared to work in 
> command line mode are accessible but painful.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> At 08:26 p.m. 28/02/2012, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>As an  Economics doctoral candidate, I have been using Stata regularly for 
>>some years with various versions of Jaws. Currently using Jaws 11 and 
>>Stata 11 with Windows7.
>>My impression of Stata is that it quite handy for blind users after a 
>>little tweeking:
>>
>>The command line and menus are completely accessible
>>
>>the output screen is accessible with Jaws cursor. Results can be saved in 
>>txt format. There are also some commands to export results in 
>>publication-quality Excel tables.
>>Stata by default has a variables bar on the left of the output screen. 
>>This is kind of useless for a blind user, better get it removed through 
>>sighted assistance.
>>
>>The data editor is not very accessible, but can be bypassed. I get my 
>>initial data in excel or text format and convert it into stata format with 
>>the Stat transfer program (a paid software).
>>
>>I have also tried my luck with R. R is of course free, and everything on 
>>it presumeably be done through command line. But I find its learning curve 
>>for an occasional user quite high.
>>
>>Does someone know if Eviews is accessible or not? This software is 
>>commonly used in research on monetary and financial Economics.
>>                                    kind regards Mazhar
>>
>>
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>>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:33 AM
>>To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>Cc: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] [nfbcs] FW: STATA
>>
>>>It might be a good idea to ask on our BlindMath list, where people who 
>>>use this kind of thing hang out.  In fact, I will forward,  -- 
>>>if you or anyone else wants to subscribe:
>>>
>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 09:06 AM 2/27/2012, you wrote:
>>>>Does anyone have information about this program and its functionality 
>>>>with
>>>>JAWS?
>>>>
>>>>Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   _____
>>>>
>>>>From: Schafer, Carmen [mailto:schafercg at missouri.edu]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:28 PM
>>>>To: jfettgather at alphapointe.org; Gary Wunder (gwunder at earthlink.net)
>>>>Subject: STATA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello Jim & Gary,
>>>>
>>>>We have a Grad student who is using Jaws and will be taking the class
>>>>"Research Methods" in the Fall. This class requires the use of Stata a 
>>>>data
>>>>analysis and statistical software program. She wants to learn the 
>>>>software
>>>>before she takes the class in Fall 2012. We are in search of someone who 
>>>>is
>>>>proficient with Jaws who can help try her on how to use the Stata 
>>>>program.
>>>>Do either of you know of anyone in the Columbia area or someone that we
>>>>could pay to come here and work with her and hopefully one of the
>>>>statisticans in our Mathamatics department?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Carmen Schafer
>>>>University of Missouri - Division of IT
>>>>Adaptive Computing Technology Center
>>>>Direct Phone: (573) 882-8838
>>>>Office Phone: (573) 884-2828
>>>>Toll free: 866-396-2380
>>>>  <mailto:schafercg at missouri.edu> schafercg at missouri.edu
>>>
>>>
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