[Blindmath] Extracting bitmap images from pdf files

Wed Jan 25 21:54:54 UTC 2012

Hi Ben,

I don't know how to emboss sig files on a Tiger, but if you are interested,
I can upload svg versions of the same files that you can open in IE9 and
print on a Tiger.

I'm in conference right now but can upload them within an hour or so.

Dick Baldwin

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, John Gardner <john.gardner at orst.edu> wrote:

> Hi Michael, actually yes.  Just use the IVEO Converter pseudo printer from
> Acrobat Reader.  It will preserve text.  However there are very few PDFs
> with real text in graphics, so I generally don't mention this route.  It
> does not do OCR.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whapples [mailto:mwhapples at aim.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:33 AM
> To: john.gardner at orst.edu; Blind Math list for those interested in
> mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Extracting bitmap images from pdf files
>
> John,
> In some PDF diagrams, normally graphs and such like, the text labels may
> actually be there as text (I could send some examples if you need). In such
> a case will IVEO actually use the text rather than relying on OCR?
>
> Michael Whapples
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:33 PM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics' ;
> accessibleimage at freelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Extracting bitmap images from pdf files
>
> Dick, if someone is fortunate enough to have a ViewPlus embosser and IVEO
> Creator Pro, she can have pretty good access to images.
> * import the PDF into IVEO Creator Pro.
> * Check the PDF to find which pages have images of interest and emboss
> those
> pages.
> * Put the embossed page on the touchpad and "Zoom Rectangle" by clicking on
> diagonally-opposite corners of the image of interest.  This will zoom that
> image to occupy maximum size the page will permit.
> * Emboss the zoomed image and read it using the touchpad.  Horizontal text
> on the image should read when pressed.  The OCR in Creator Pro works really
> well with PDF's so if the resolution is at all decent, the text usually is
> OCRed well.
> * Go back to the original image and do same for any other image on that
> page.  Repeat for images on other pages.
>
> Note that a sighted person can skip the first embossing step and just zoom
> those images.  Handy to have sighted people around, but if there aren't it
> just takes a little longer.  By the way, that sighted person can create
> overlays on important objects on the graphic and label them to improve
> accessibility even more.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:08 AM
> To: BlindMath Mailing List; accessibleimage at freelists.org
> Subject: [Blindmath] Extracting bitmap images from pdf files
>
> Many blind students receive electronic textbooks in pdf format.
>
> Many textbooks contain lots of images.
>
> Many images are poorly described in textbooks.
>
> Various ways to convert bitmap images into tactile images are available --
> some fairly good, some not so good, some very poor. However, regardless of
> the quality of the conversion to tactile format, you must have the original
> image file in order to get anything.
>
> I have tried four or five different online file conversion sites in an
> attempt to find a clean way that a blind student can extract the images
> from a pdf textbook file without success. Different sites have different
> problems, but they all seem to have some kind of problems that make it very
> difficult to extract the images from pdf files.
>
> Has anyone identified an online site or downloadable program that is
> available either free or at a reasonable price to cleanly extract the
> images from pdf files, which often range up to 10 or more megabytes  or
> more in size?
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Baldwin
>
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