[Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought

Wed Mar 28 19:08:07 UTC 2012

On the Ted's talk list I listened to a speech given by an inventor who has developed a speaker that can be aimed at a person and that person be the only one hearing the message, sound, or what ever is being played.   One of His plans is to market it just for the reason stated below. For only one person at a time to hear the message. Take it one step further. Have the software recognize who you are and what kind of things you like to purchase, or what your interest are and a message could be sent to you personally.
Larry

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Senk, Mark J. (CDC/NIOSH/NPPTL)
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought

Could the billboard be programmed to notice a white cane and switch to spoken messages?

It might look at my meager bank balance and tag me as a potential shoplifter - alerting mall security.  <grin>

Maybe this is a reason to wear those oversized sunglasses and attempt to conceal your identity.

Mark

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought

Here is a scary thought.  The software will see your face and recognize who you are then do a check through a comprehensive data base, find out what you have been buying with your credit and debit cards then show you advertisements based on that. 
Larry
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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought

:)
That's what I'm getting at, I'm not sure if the adds are targeting you as an individual, or you as a demographic, then tying it back to what they assume (rightly or wrongly) you'd want to buy.

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought

I don't how they decide what to advertise.

If it were me in the mall, the camera would probably pan down to my waistline and recommend the food court. <grin>

Dick Baldwin

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) < REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:

> Is this a one-to-one ratio or are these bill boards looking for 
> certain features?
>
> If Dick and Amanda were at the mall, the camera would see an old dude 
> and a young lady.
> It might suggest Dick wants an ice cream, where Amanda might want a 
> nice dress.
>
> Or is the technology linked to a database that would say "old dude is 
> Dick, young chick is Amanda, both like math, let's suggest a gaming shop?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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> On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
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> Subject: [Blindmath] Facial recognition -- food for thought
>
> Most of the math courses that I completed in public school and college 
> mainly involved completely deterministic concepts such as finding 
> unknown in sets of algebraic equations, proving theorems in geometry, 
> proving identities in trigonometry, solving triangle problems using 
> trigonometry, differentiating functions, integrating functions, 
> playing around with solids of revolution, etc. They were all good 
> exercises for the brain but were not very close to real-world problems.
>
> When I made it into engineering college, the problems and their 
> solutions were closer to the real world but only barely so.
>
> When I completed my first engineering degree and went to work in the 
> real world, I learned very quickly that problems in the real world are 
> far from deterministics. In other words, there are very few problems 
> in the real world that have deterministic solutions. Problems in the 
> real world usually involve a mix of mathematics, statistics, physics, 
> engineering, computer science, and other technologies, and there is 
> rarely a single correct solution for any problem.
>
> Furthermore, the solution to most problems requires the design and 
> implementation of complex mathematical algorithms, and those 
> algorithms are most commonly implemented using a computer of some 
> sort. (In my opinion, every student that receives a technical degree 
> should be required to learn to program well in at least one 
> programming language.)
>
> By now you must be wondering where this is all heading.
>
> I saw on TV today that shopping malls and large department stores are 
> installing electronic billboards that use facial recognition to 
> display advertisements that are likely to be of interest to those 
> persons who can see the billboard.
>
> I have no idea what the facial recognition algorithm is for 
> categorizing the viewers in a way that allows for a selection of 
> appropriate advertisements. However, this tells me that the algorithm 
> doesn't require a supercomputer to implement. The algorithms must be 
> implemented using modestly priced computer hardware. Otherwise, they 
> would be too expensive to include in such billboards.
>
> This makes me wonder if it might be possible to use a small portable 
> computer to develop a system that will do facial recognition on people 
> whose faces appear in the field of view of a miniature video camera 
> embedded in eyeglass frames and to speak information about those 
> people to the wearer of the glasses.
>
> Science fiction? Maybe so and maybe not.
>
> Dr. Peter Meijer has demonstrated that it is possible to couple a 
> video camera built into eyeglass frames with a small portable computer 
> and an appropriate software program (The vOICe) and to create 
> soundscapes that some blind users find very beneficial (see 
> http://www.seeingwithsound.com/
> )
> as they move through the world.
>
> Not being blind, I can't imagine what it would be like to interact 
> with other people that you can't see. However, it seems to me that it 
> would be beneficial for a blind person to know something about another 
> persons before a conversation begins. Depending on capability, this 
> could range all the way from rudimentary information such as the 
> probable sex and likely age of the person, to detailed information 
> such as the identification of prior acquaintances by name.
>
> Perhaps it is time for a group of blind mathematicians, physicists, 
> engineers, statisticians, and computer scientists to band together to 
> produce such a system and to publish it as an open source 
> hardware/software system.
>
> Food for thought,
> Dick Baldwin
>
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