[Blindmath] mathematica

Sarah Jevnikar sarah.jevnikar at mail.utoronto.ca
Sat Apr 20 11:56:41 CDT 2013


Hi Tylor,
In 2009 I purchased Mathematica and tried to use its command line version. The customer service rep I spoke to only told me that the graphical version was preferred. I haven't looked lately, but when I had checked there weren't many resources for command-line use of Mathematica. I'm not sure what your setup is but assuming you are unable to use a mouse, a command-line version would be ideal. I'd suggest researching that area beforee you decide to use it regularly.
HTH,

Sarah

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From: Blindmath [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Kyle Keane [kylek at wolfram.com]
Sent: April 19, 2013 1:39 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org; tyler at tysdomain.com
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] mathematica

Hi Tyler,

What are you trying to get access to in Mathematica? I have a script that I made for a totally blind physicist who wanted to work with symbolic computation in a text editor. If you would like me to send it to you email me at kylek at wolfram.com and I'll get you up and running. If you need other functionality I would like to hear from you and try to help you develop a solution or workaround.

Sincerely,
Kyle Keane


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      chemistry and SAT prep (Arielle Silverman)
   3. Re: Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen inchemistry
      and SAT prep (Debbie Willis)
   4. Re: Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen inchemistry
      and SAT prep (Arielle Silverman)
   5. mathamatica (Littlefield, Tyler)
   6. Re: mathamatica (Greg Williams)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:55:04 -0600
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
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Hi all,
This was forwarded to me by a cyber-acquaintance. I'm going to respond
to the person directly to ensure she knows about the NFB and about
funding sources for assistive tech and training, but I am wondering if
any of you are qualified and might be willing to mentor this young
woman and help tutor her in chemistry and/or help her prep for the
SAT's? It would be great for her to work with a blind mentor even if
it is long-distance. I would do it but it has been too long since I've
taken the SAT's and my last chem course was in 2005. If you're
qualified or know somebody who is, could you please get in touch with
her by phone? Thanks!

Hi all,

There is a local 17 year old girl who is losing her eyesight. She is
an excellent student and struggling to continue working hard in school
so that she can go to college despite the fact that she is grappling
with losing her eyesight.

She needs to prepare for the SAT's and is also taking Chemistry this
summer so she can lighten her school load for next year. The financial
costs for her parents are becoming insurmountable given all the
additional needs she has now.

Do you tutor or know someone who tutors for the SAT's? We are looking
for someone who might drastically reduce fees or donate SAT prep
services. Also, need chemistry tutor for the summer.

Also want to know about any computer assisted programs you may know
about for the visually impaired and blind? Lastly, if you know any
teenagers or young adults with whom she can talk and get support, that
would be wonderful.

Please let me know. Thanks so much!

Prissi
(310) 871-6440



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:56:29 -0600
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
        <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,    "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of
        blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>, blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen
        in chemistry and SAT prep
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        <CALAYQJAzjd_m6m0ibTRXH+OZEsm6uv6N4B5gsjYgLr-5XxsVSw at mail.gmail.com>
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Ps--if you prefer you can also email this person who is requesting
assistance at:
prissi at taskilicious.com

On 4/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> This was forwarded to me by a cyber-acquaintance. I'm going to respond
> to the person directly to ensure she knows about the NFB and about
> funding sources for assistive tech and training, but I am wondering if
> any of you are qualified and might be willing to mentor this young
> woman and help tutor her in chemistry and/or help her prep for the
> SAT's? It would be great for her to work with a blind mentor even if
> it is long-distance. I would do it but it has been too long since I've
> taken the SAT's and my last chem course was in 2005. If you're
> qualified or know somebody who is, could you please get in touch with
> her by phone? Thanks!
>
> Hi all,
>
> There is a local 17 year old girl who is losing her eyesight. She is
> an excellent student and struggling to continue working hard in school
> so that she can go to college despite the fact that she is grappling
> with losing her eyesight.
>
> She needs to prepare for the SAT's and is also taking Chemistry this
> summer so she can lighten her school load for next year. The financial
> costs for her parents are becoming insurmountable given all the
> additional needs she has now.
>
> Do you tutor or know someone who tutors for the SAT's? We are looking
> for someone who might drastically reduce fees or donate SAT prep
> services. Also, need chemistry tutor for the summer.
>
> Also want to know about any computer assisted programs you may know
> about for the visually impaired and blind? Lastly, if you know any
> teenagers or young adults with whom she can talk and get support, that
> would be wonderful.
>
> Please let me know. Thanks so much!
>
> Prissi
> (310) 871-6440
>



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:18:10 +0000
From: Debbie Willis <dwillis at aph.org>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>, National Association of Blind Students mailing
        list    <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents
        of blind        children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen
        inchemistry and SAT prep
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        <6B8BE87EE67BDB44B8A6F0A8154437E40D8369 at WINSRVEX10.aph.org>
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Do you know what city/state this young lady lives in?

Thank you,
Debbie

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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen inchemistry and SAT prep

Ps--if you prefer you can also email this person who is requesting assistance at:
prissi at taskilicious.com

On 4/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> This was forwarded to me by a cyber-acquaintance. I'm going to respond
> to the person directly to ensure she knows about the NFB and about
> funding sources for assistive tech and training, but I am wondering if
> any of you are qualified and might be willing to mentor this young
> woman and help tutor her in chemistry and/or help her prep for the
> SAT's? It would be great for her to work with a blind mentor even if
> it is long-distance. I would do it but it has been too long since I've
> taken the SAT's and my last chem course was in 2005. If you're
> qualified or know somebody who is, could you please get in touch with
> her by phone? Thanks!
>
> Hi all,
>
> There is a local 17 year old girl who is losing her eyesight. She is
> an excellent student and struggling to continue working hard in school
> so that she can go to college despite the fact that she is grappling
> with losing her eyesight.
>
> She needs to prepare for the SAT's and is also taking Chemistry this
> summer so she can lighten her school load for next year. The financial
> costs for her parents are becoming insurmountable given all the
> additional needs she has now.
>
> Do you tutor or know someone who tutors for the SAT's? We are looking
> for someone who might drastically reduce fees or donate SAT prep
> services. Also, need chemistry tutor for the summer.
>
> Also want to know about any computer assisted programs you may know
> about for the visually impaired and blind? Lastly, if you know any
> teenagers or young adults with whom she can talk and get support, that
> would be wonderful.
>
> Please let me know. Thanks so much!
>
> Prissi
> (310) 871-6440
>

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:21:53 -0600
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
        <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,    "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of
        blind children\)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen
        inchemistry and SAT prep
Message-ID:
        <CALAYQJBAaxk+6V-3O_mOwOMYBV7n+BUQ91euLbZNKqp00wYpkg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I don't know yet but the area code is 310 which makes me suspect it is
Los Angeles area in CA.
Arielle

On 4/18/13, Debbie Willis <dwillis at aph.org> wrote:
> Do you know what city/state this young lady lives in?
>
> Thank you,
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
> Silverman
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:56 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; NFBnet Blind Kid
> Mailing List,(for parents of blind children); blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Looking for someone to tutor newly blind teen
> inchemistry and SAT prep
>
> Ps--if you prefer you can also email this person who is requesting
> assistance at:
> prissi at taskilicious.com
>
> On 4/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> This was forwarded to me by a cyber-acquaintance. I'm going to respond
>> to the person directly to ensure she knows about the NFB and about
>> funding sources for assistive tech and training, but I am wondering if
>> any of you are qualified and might be willing to mentor this young
>> woman and help tutor her in chemistry and/or help her prep for the
>> SAT's? It would be great for her to work with a blind mentor even if
>> it is long-distance. I would do it but it has been too long since I've
>> taken the SAT's and my last chem course was in 2005. If you're
>> qualified or know somebody who is, could you please get in touch with
>> her by phone? Thanks!
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There is a local 17 year old girl who is losing her eyesight. She is
>> an excellent student and struggling to continue working hard in school
>> so that she can go to college despite the fact that she is grappling
>> with losing her eyesight.
>>
>> She needs to prepare for the SAT's and is also taking Chemistry this
>> summer so she can lighten her school load for next year. The financial
>> costs for her parents are becoming insurmountable given all the
>> additional needs she has now.
>>
>> Do you tutor or know someone who tutors for the SAT's? We are looking
>> for someone who might drastically reduce fees or donate SAT prep
>> services. Also, need chemistry tutor for the summer.
>>
>> Also want to know about any computer assisted programs you may know
>> about for the visually impaired and blind? Lastly, if you know any
>> teenagers or young adults with whom she can talk and get support, that
>> would be wonderful.
>>
>> Please let me know. Thanks so much!
>>
>> Prissi
>> (310) 871-6440
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:49:51 -0600
From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Blindmath] mathamatica
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Hello:
Have any of you used Mathamatica with jaws? I tried the gui backend as
well as the mathamatica kernel cli backend. Each has their drawbacks; I
don't mine the cli backend, but it raises exponents up to the line above
it which makes tracking which expression it went with really messy. Any
tips/ideas would be welcome.
Thanks,

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:24:08 -0400
From: Greg Williams <greg.williams.1978 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] mathamatica
Message-ID: <51716198.3040103 at gmail.com>
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It has been a long time since I used Mathematica, so I don't remember
all of the output options, but I know that you can change the output
form to fortran for instance which introduces different issues but is at
least fully linear.  By now they may be other output options which are
better.
Greg

On 4/19/2013 12:49 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> Hello:
> Have any of you used Mathamatica with jaws? I tried the gui backend as
> well as the mathamatica kernel cli backend. Each has their drawbacks;
> I don't mine the cli backend, but it raises exponents up to the line
> above it which makes tracking which expression it went with really
> messy. Any tips/ideas would be welcome.
> Thanks,
>




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 08:43:56 -0700
From: Neil Soiffer <NeilS at dessci.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
        <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] mathamatica
Message-ID:
        <CAESRWkDrOHHwTH0bA71ACc7TT+KJk2NtpTV7KUpixBXCyubKJw at mail.gmail.com>
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I don't have a functional Mathematica at the moment, but I think you can say
$Post = FortranForm

or, I think better,
$Post = InputForm

This will apply FortranForm or InputForm to every output so that you don't
need to write apply it everytime like shown below:
Expand[(x+y)^5]//InputForm


If you use $Post, all of your output will be linear, either like Fortran,
or like the input.  I think the later form is better since that is what you
need type.

Good luck,

Neil Soiffer
Senior Scientist
Design Science, Inc.
www.dessci.com
~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~



On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Greg Williams <greg.williams.1978 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> It has been a long time since I used Mathematica, so I don't remember all
> of the output options, but I know that you can change the output form to
> fortran for instance which introduces different issues but is at least
> fully linear.  By now they may be other output options which are better.
> Greg
>
> On 4/19/2013 12:49 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>> Have any of you used Mathamatica with jaws? I tried the gui backend as
>> well as the mathamatica kernel cli backend. Each has their drawbacks; I
>> don't mine the cli backend, but it raises exponents up to the line above it
>> which makes tracking which expression it went with really messy. Any
>> tips/ideas would be welcome.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>
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