[Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper giids

I. C. Bray i.c.bray at win.net
Sun Dec 1 06:26:35 UTC 2013 

It is not a delusion...
Because Sighted people are afflicted with two eyes, separated by a few 
inches, and the fact the real world is in 3-d, the eyes can be convinced 
they see 3 dimensions when in fact, only two are present.

If you have never seen, it is in my opinion difficult to relate...
Immensely intriguing to hear articulate blind people describe 3-d perception 
however!!

Ian


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From: "sabra1023" <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper giids


:I think if you're going to graphic having the Z axis in the air would be 
the best option. I've been blind from birth, and while I understand that 
sighted people delude themselves into thinking a one dimensional picture is 
a three-dimensional object, I do not understand most of the time how they 
come to their conclusions about this. They continually treat their pictures 
as if they're actually objects, which annoys me to no end. Through school, I 
was just given tactile pictures and taught the way cited people learn. As a 
result, I thought there was something wrong with my brain and that I could 
never succeed in math because I couldn't understand their pictures, methods 
for representing things, and examples. I have come to learn that my brain 
processes information differently then cited people, but I am still debating 
with myself as to whether this means it isn't working or not. The point is 
that now, I can do well in math without their difficult and unnatural ways 
of doing thi!
: ngs holding me back. When sighted people look at three-dimensional 
representations, there really looking at optical illusions. My brain doesn't 
process these illusions. I think it means I'll be better equipped to do math 
beyond the third dimension, but it also means I can't tolerate an accurate 
representation of the third dimension and beyond. The z-axis may appear to 
be floating above the quadrant, but it actually isn't because The quadrant 
is now three-dimensional. That's why I think it's even bad for sighted 
people to represent three dimensions as pictures.
:
: > On Nov 22, 2013, at 4:58 AM, "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net> 
wrote:
: >
: > My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 
weeks) in
: > about a week.  He spent some time searching online with his Math tutor 
for
: > 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that they found that 
worked
: > the best for his vision from what they were able to find in free 3d 
graph
: > paper options.  Does anyone know of a more accessible free (or low cost)
: > option?
: >
: > Thanks,
: >
: > Mary Woodyard
: > Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
: >
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: > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
: > From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
: > To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
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: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
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: > Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on
: > www.access2science.com
: >
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: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Godfrey,
: > Jonathan
: > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
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: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >
: > Hi Paul,
: >
: > I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the exact 
link
: > for you but look for the Summery University held in conjunction with the
: > ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. I'm not sure if the 
2013
: > ones are uploaded yet but the files mentioned should all be there for
: > reference purposes.
: > J
: >
: >
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
: > Chapin
: > Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
: > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: > Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >
: > Hi,
: >
: > I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or anything
: > else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
: >
: > Paul Chapin
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: > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
: > From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
: > To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: > Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
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: > Dear all,
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: > I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance browser 
and
: > e-reader support for MathML.  The project description itself is very
: > detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of accessibility in the
: > motivation section.
: >
: > The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the 
people
: > who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology over the 
last
: > few years, so is best placed to know what the issues are and what the 
next
: > stage in development should be.  So if anyone is going to improved 
matters,
: > he's the best choice.
: >
: > He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating on
: > MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site where 
people
: > can contribute.  The actual amount that he is trying to raise is not
: > actually all that much, particularly given the wide-ranging benefits 
that
: > could follow from this.
: >
: > I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and that 
some
: > of you will actually do so.
: >
: > The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
: >
: > Andrew Stacey
: >
: >
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