[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Andy B. sonfire11 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 1 11:13:55 UTC 2013 

Rubix cube, stress ball, and I don't know what would work for the
octagon.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C.
Bray
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 1:30 AM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

I would suggest starting with a cube, and octahedron, and a sphere... 
they're easilly recognizable...




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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper


: Do you think it would help in a geometry section of a college algebra 
class?
: I wish I could see something like this that was made with a 3d printer. 
Any
: ideas on how to get my hands on some shapes?
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda
: Lacy
: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:50 PM
: To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:
: Pretty well, actually. I'm not quite finished with calculus III, but the
: shapes were very useful for understanding concepts like traces. They were
: very well done - you could actually feel the traces. Maybe the student 
could
: get some of these made?
: ----- Original Message -----
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: To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:38 PM
: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:
:
: > How well did this turn out?
: >
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
: > Amanda Lacy
: > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:36 PM
: > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
: >
: > I have some hypercool 3D calculus shapes representing functions with
: > two independent variables which were produced on a 3D Printer.
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "sabra1023" <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
: > To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
: > <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: > Cc: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:21 AM
: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
: >
: >
: >>I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented
: >>into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's
: >>in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a
: >>3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I
: >>would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important
: > coordinates.
: >>
: >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
: >>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
: >>> wrote:
: >>>
: >>> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.
: >>>
: >>> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH,
: >>> nor am I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically
: >>> speaking, 3-D graphing may be OK for low vision students but not
: >>> appropriate for braille readers because depth information is not
: >>> possible to be represented in tactile graphics."
: >>>
: >>> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
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: >>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
: >>> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
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: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
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: >>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
: >>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with
: >>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper
: >>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they
: >>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know
: >>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
: >>>
: >>> Thanks,
: >>>
: >>> Mary Woodyard
: >>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
: >>>
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: >>> www.access2science.com
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: >>> Godfrey, Jonathan
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
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: >>> Hi Paul,
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: >>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in
: >>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
: >>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files
: >>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
: >>> J
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: >>> Paul Chapin
: >>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
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: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >>>
: >>> Hi,
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: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or
: >>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
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: >>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
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: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
: >>> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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: >>> Dear all,
: >>>
: >>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance
: >>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description
: >>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of
: >>> accessibility in the motivation section.
: >>>
: >>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the
: >>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology
: >>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues
: >>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone
: >>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
: >>>
: >>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time
: >>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a
: >>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount
: >>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much,
: >>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
: this.
: >>>
: >>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and
: >>> that some of you will actually do so.
: >>>
: >>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
: >>>
: >>> Andrew Stacey
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: >>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:05:19 +0000
: >>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: >>>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
: >>>    giids
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: >>> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring
: >>> to the paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph
: >>> board from aph
: >>>
: >>> Maureen Lewicki
: >>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
: >>> Bethlehem Central Schools
: >>> 700 Delaware Avenue
: >>> Delmar, NY 12054
: >>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
: >>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
: >>>
: >>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
: >>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with
: >>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper
: >>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they
: >>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know
: >>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
: >>>
: >>> Thanks,
: >>>
: >>> Mary Woodyard
: >>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
: >>>
: >>> -----Original Message-----
: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
: >>> blindmath-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath-request at nfbnet.org>
: >>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:00 AM
: >>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: >>> Subject: Blindmath Digest, Vol 88, Issue 12
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: >>> "Re: Contents of Blindmath digest..."
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: >>> Today's Topics:
: >>>
: >>>  1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)  2. A project to advance
: >>> MathML support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
: >>> -
: >>> -
: >>>
: >>> Message: 1
: >>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
: >>> From: "John Gardner"
: >>> <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
: >>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
: >>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >>> Message-ID:
: >>> <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu<mailto:00cd01cee671$334eac
: >>> 9
: >>> 0$99ec0
: >>> 5b0$@orst.edu>>
: >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
: >>>
: >>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on
: >>> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> -----Original Message-----
: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
: >>> Godfrey, Jonathan
: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >>>
: >>> Hi Paul,
: >>>
: >>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the
: >>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in
: >>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards.
: >>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files
: >>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
: >>> J
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> -----Original Message-----
: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
: >>> Paul Chapin
: >>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
: >>>
: >>> Hi,
: >>>
: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or
: >>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
: >>>
: >>> Paul Chapin
: >>> Academic Technology Specialist
: >>> Amherst College
: >>> X2144
: >>>
: >>> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including
: >>> by email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost
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: >>> ------------------------------
: >>>
: >>> Message: 2
: >>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
: >>> From: Andrew Stacey
: >>> <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no<mailto:andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>>
: >>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
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: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
: >>>
: >>> Dear all,
: >>>
: >>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance
: >>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description
: >>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of
: >>> accessibility in the motivation section.
: >>>
: >>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the
: >>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology
: >>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues
: >>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone
: >>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
: >>>
: >>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time
: >>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a
: >>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount
: >>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much,
: >>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
: this.
: >>>
: >>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and
: >>> that some of you will actually do so.
: >>>
: >>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
: >>>
: >>> Andrew Stacey
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> ------------------------------
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