[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Andy B. sonfire11 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 2 01:46:01 UTC 2013


The hand size doesn't matter if the student has special problems. In this
case, something a little larger might help them understand what a shape
looks like. The problem is not, in most cases, getting them to know the
shapes, but more of getting them to understand why a shape like this is
important.


-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C.
Bray
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:31 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper

Why too small?  I have no problems with them... and I have HUGE hands...
I would think the smaller fingers would likely be more deft.

Ian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'" 
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper


: Too small... Especially with students with spacial problems. Something the
: size of fuzzy winshield dice would work.
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C.
: Bray
: Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 2:56 PM
: To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:
: OK, this is old-school, and will suprise most all of you, but:
:
: Find a comic-book store, or Role Playing Website.
: Order a Full Set of DICE.
: That set will contain:
: 1 4-sided die  tetrahedron
: 1 6-sided die cube or hexahedron
: 1 8-sided die octahedron
: 2 10-sided die Not needed but are PRISMS
: 1 12-sided die dodecahedron
: 1 20-sided die  icosahedron
:
: You can even find them without numbers on them or "plain".
: Ian
:
: dodecahedron
:
:
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
: To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:13 AM
: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:
:
:: Rubix cube, stress ball, and I don't know what would work for the
:: octagon.....
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of I. C.
:: Bray
:: Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 1:30 AM
:: To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
:: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
::
:: I would suggest starting with a cube, and octahedron, and a sphere...
:: they're easilly recognizable...
::
::
::
::
:: ----- Original Message ----- 
:: From: "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
:: To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
:: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
:: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 3:14 PM
:: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
::
::
::: Do you think it would help in a geometry section of a college algebra
:: class?
::: I wish I could see something like this that was made with a 3d printer.
:: Any
::: ideas on how to get my hands on some shapes?
:::
:::
:::
::: -----Original Message-----
::: From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Amanda
::: Lacy
::: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:50 PM
::: To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:::
::: Pretty well, actually. I'm not quite finished with calculus III, but the
::: shapes were very useful for understanding concepts like traces. They 
were
::: very well done - you could actually feel the traces. Maybe the student
:: could
::: get some of these made?
::: ----- Original Message -----
::: From: "Andy B." <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
::: To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
::: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:38 PM
::: Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
:::
:::
::: > How well did this turn out?
::: >
::: >
::: > -----Original Message-----
::: > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: > Amanda Lacy
::: > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:36 PM
::: > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
::: >
::: > I have some hypercool 3D calculus shapes representing functions with
::: > two independent variables which were produced on a 3D Printer.
::: > ----- Original Message -----
::: > From: "sabra1023" <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
::: > To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
::: > <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: > Cc: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:21 AM
::: > Subject: Re: [Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
::: >
::: >
::: >>I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented
::: >>into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's
::: >>in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a
::: >>3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I
::: >>would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important
::: > coordinates.
::: >>
::: >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
::: >>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
::: >>> wrote:
::: >>>
::: >>> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I
: got.
::: >>>
::: >>> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH,
::: >>> nor am I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically
::: >>> speaking, 3-D graphing may be OK for low vision students but not
::: >>> appropriate for braille readers because depth information is not
::: >>> possible to be represented in tactile graphics."
::: >>>
::: >>> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
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::: >>> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:58:41 -0500
::: >>> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
::: >>> To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
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::: >>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
::: >>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with
::: >>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper
::: >>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they
::: >>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know
::: >>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
::: >>>
::: >>> Thanks,
::: >>>
::: >>> Mary Woodyard
::: >>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
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::: >>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
::: >>> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
::: >>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
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::: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
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::: >>> www.access2science.com
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
::: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: >>> Godfrey, Jonathan
::: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
::: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
::: >>>
::: >>> Hi Paul,
::: >>>
::: >>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the
::: >>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in
::: >>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 
onwards.
::: >>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files
::: >>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
::: >>> J
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
::: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: >>> Paul Chapin
::: >>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
::: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
::: >>>
::: >>> Hi,
::: >>>
::: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or
::: >>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of
: Latex.
::: >>>
::: >>> Paul Chapin
::: >>> Academic Technology Specialist
::: >>> Amherst College
::: >>> X2144
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::: >>> ------------------------------
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::: >>> Message: 2
::: >>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
::: >>> From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
::: >>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
::: >>> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
::: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
::: >>>
::: >>> Dear all,
::: >>>
::: >>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance
::: >>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description
::: >>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of
::: >>> accessibility in the motivation section.
::: >>>
::: >>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the
::: >>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology
::: >>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues
::: >>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone
::: >>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
::: >>>
::: >>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time
::: >>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a
::: >>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount
::: >>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much,
::: >>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
::: this.
::: >>>
::: >>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and
::: >>> that some of you will actually do so.
::: >>>
::: >>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
::: >>>
::: >>> Andrew Stacey
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>>
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::: >>> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
::: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: >>>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing 
paper
::: >>>    giids
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::: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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::: >>> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring
::: >>> to the paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph
::: >>> board from aph
::: >>>
::: >>> Maureen Lewicki
::: >>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
::: >>> Bethlehem Central Schools
::: >>> 700 Delaware Avenue
::: >>> Delmar, NY 12054
::: >>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
::: >>> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
::: >>>
::: >>> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2
::: >>> weeks) in about a week.  He spent some time searching online with
::: >>> his Math tutor for 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper
::: >>> that they found that worked the best for his vision from what they
::: >>> were able to find in free 3d graph paper options.  Does anyone know
::: >>> of a more accessible free (or low cost) option?
::: >>>
::: >>> Thanks,
::: >>>
::: >>> Mary Woodyard
::: >>> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
::: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: >>> blindmath-request at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath-request at nfbnet.org>
::: >>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:00 AM
::: >>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>
::: >>> Subject: Blindmath Digest, Vol 88, Issue 12
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::: >>>
::: >>>  1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)  2. A project to advance
::: >>> MathML support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
::: >>> -
::: >>> -
::: >>>
::: >>> Message: 1
::: >>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
::: >>> From: "John Gardner"
::: >>> <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
::: >>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
::: >>>   <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
::: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
::: >>> Message-ID:
::: >>> <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu<mailto:00cd01cee671$334eac
::: >>> 9
::: >>> 0$99ec0
::: >>> 5b0$@orst.edu>>
::: >>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
::: >>>
::: >>> Another suggestion.  There's lots of Latex materials on
::: >>> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
::: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: >>> Godfrey, Jonathan
::: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
::: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: >>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
::: >>>
::: >>> Hi Paul,
::: >>>
::: >>> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the
::: >>> exact link for you but look for the Summery University held in
::: >>> conjunction with the ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 
onwards.
::: >>> I'm not sure if the 2013 ones are uploaded yet but the files
::: >>> mentioned should all be there for reference purposes.
::: >>> J
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> -----Original Message-----
::: >>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
::: >>> Paul Chapin
::: >>> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
::: >>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
::: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
::: >>>
::: >>> Hi,
::: >>>
::: >>> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or
::: >>> anything else that can be used to teach a student the basics of
: Latex.
::: >>>
::: >>> Paul Chapin
::: >>> Academic Technology Specialist
::: >>> Amherst College
::: >>> X2144
::: >>>
::: >>> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including
::: >>> by email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost
::: >>> certainly bogus. Never click on a link in an email to a site that
::: >>> requires a login as the link may be bogus. Type in the address
::: >>> yourself. Please keep your passwords private to protect yourself and
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::: >>>
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::: >>>
::: >>> ------------------------------
::: >>>
::: >>> Message: 2
::: >>> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
::: >>> From: Andrew Stacey
::: >>> <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no<mailto:andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>>
::: >>> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
::: >>> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
::: >>> Message-ID:
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::: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
::: >>>
::: >>> Dear all,
::: >>>
::: >>> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance
::: >>> browser and e-reader support for MathML.  The project description
::: >>> itself is very detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of
::: >>> accessibility in the motivation section.
::: >>>
::: >>> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang.  He is one of the
::: >>> people who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology
::: >>> over the last few years, so is best placed to know what the issues
::: >>> are and what the next stage in development should be.  So if anyone
::: >>> is going to improved matters, he's the best choice.
::: >>>
::: >>> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time
::: >>> concentrating on MathML development and the website is on a
::: >>> crowd-funding site where people can contribute.  The actual amount
::: >>> that he is trying to raise is not actually all that much,
::: >>> particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that could follow from
::: this.
::: >>>
::: >>> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and
::: >>> that some of you will actually do so.
::: >>>
::: >>> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
::: >>>
::: >>> Andrew Stacey
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>>
::: >>> ------------------------------
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