[Blindmath] Alt description and long description for images

Tue Feb 12 02:08:11 UTC 2013

Dick,

Since I'm not sure what is in your descriptions, I'm not sure what to look for.  Here is how Window-Eyes shows that part of the page in case it helps:

For example, the image in
Image 1
was produced by manipulating and merging the images shown in
Image 2
and
Image 3

Image 1: Result of merging two images.
Result of merging two images.
One of the input images is shown in
Image 2

Image 2: Input image #1.
Image 2: Input image #1.
The other input image is shown in
Image 3

Image 3: Input image #2.
Image 3: Input image #2.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:14:47 -0600, Richard Baldwin wrote:

>On further examination, I believe that I lost the long description but the
>alt should be there. Can anyone with a screen reader confirm that the alt
>either is or is not there for the image at at
>http://cnx.org/content/m44148/latest/#Image_1  (and for three other images
>on that page as well).

>If the alt is there, I know how to restore the long description without too
>much reprogramming. If the alt is not there, I have a more difficult
>problem to solve.

>For anyone who may be interested, documents are uploaded to the
>cnx.orgsite in an xml format where they are then converted to html,
>pdf, epub,
>etc. The alt is in the xml file that I uploaded but the long description is
>missing from that file meaning of course that it will also be missing from
>the final output. I hope you tell me that the alt is in the final output.

>Thanks,
>Dick Baldwin

>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>wrote:

>> Never mind. I think I figured out where the alt and long description are
>> getting lost.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dick Baldwin
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Richard Baldwin <baldwin at dickbaldwin.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm Strange. When I hover my mouse over the flags on he duxbury site I
>>> don't see what you describe in either Google Chrome, Firefox, or IE.
>>>
>>> Can someone with Jaws or NVDA take a look at this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dick Baldwin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, George Bell <George at techno-vision.co.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dick,
>>>>
>>>> Speaking as a sighted user, they don't seem to be appearing as I'd
>>>> expect when hovering the mouse over the images.
>>>>
>>>> The following is an example line from the main page here
>>>> http://www.duxburysystems.com.  You'll see a large selection of flags,
>>>> and if you hover your mouse over a flag, the Alt Text is displayed.
>>>>
>>>> <a href="default.asp?z=lv"><img src="flags/latvia.gif" alt="Latvian
>>>> translation" width="45" height="30" title="Latvian translation"></a>
>>>>
>>>> George Bell
>>>> UKAAF  (UK  Association for Accessible Formats)
>>>>
>>>> e-mail: georgebell at ukaaf.org
>>>> Web: http://www.ukaaf.org
>>>> Direct Tel: 0160 479 2777
>>>> Direct Fax: 0160 479 2726
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Richard Baldwin
>>>> Sent: 11 February 2013 20:47
>>>> To: BlindMath Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] Alt description and long description for images
>>>>
>>>> For the first time ever, I am attempting to put meaningful alt
>>>> descriptions and long descriptions on some images on a web page. However, I
>>>> have no way of knowing if it is working.
>>>>
>>>> If someone could examine the alt description and the long description of
>>>> the image at http://cnx.org/content/m44148/latest/#Image_1 and tell me
>>>> what you find there, that would be very helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dick Baldwin
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>> Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
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>> http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>>
>> Object-Oriented OOP with Java
>> http://cnx.org/content/col11441/latest/
>>
>> Professor of Computer Information Technology
>> Austin Community College
>> (512) 223-4758
>> mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
>> http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
>>

>-- 
>Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
>Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
>http://www.DickBaldwin.com

>Object-Oriented OOP with Java
>http://cnx.org/content/col11441/latest/

>Professor of Computer Information Technology
>Austin Community College
>(512) 223-4758
>mailto:Baldwin at DickBaldwin.com
>http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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