[Blindmath] APH answer to 3d graphing paper
sabra1023
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Fri Nov 22 17:21:19 UTC 2013
I think you mean that the information can't adequately be represented into dimensional form. It can be represented tactilely as long as it's in three dimensions. I don't know if this information can be put on a 3-D coordinate grid, or how helpful it would be, if I were doing it, I would want a 3-D shape of the function, with a table of important coordinates.
> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:00 AM, "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> FYI - I sent this same question to APH and this is the response I got.
>
> "We do not have any 3-D graph paper as shown in your example at APH, nor am
> I aware that it is available anywhere else. Technically speaking, 3-D
> graphing may be OK for low vision students but not appropriate for braille
> readers because depth information is not possible to be represented in
> tactile graphics."
>
> I am going to just hope for the best and be glad it's a short unit!
>
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> From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
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> Subject: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
> giids
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> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 weeks) in
> about a week. He spent some time searching online with his Math tutor for
> 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that they found that worked
> the best for his vision from what they were able to find in free 3d graph
> paper options. Does anyone know of a more accessible free (or low cost)
> option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary Woodyard
> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>
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> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
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> Another suggestion. There's lots of Latex materials on
> www.access2science.com
>
>
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> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
> Jonathan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the exact link
> for you but look for the Summery University held in conjunction with the
> ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. I'm not sure if the 2013
> ones are uploaded yet but the files mentioned should all be there for
> reference purposes.
> J
>
>
>
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> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Chapin
> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or anything
> else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>
> Paul Chapin
> Academic Technology Specialist
> Amherst College
> X2144
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> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
> From: Andrew Stacey <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>
> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
> Message-ID: <20131121080000.GA590 at dhcp-020041.wlan.ntnu.no>
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> Dear all,
>
> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance browser and
> e-reader support for MathML. The project description itself is very
> detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of accessibility in the
> motivation section.
>
> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang. He is one of the people
> who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology over the last
> few years, so is best placed to know what the issues are and what the next
> stage in development should be. So if anyone is going to improved matters,
> he's the best choice.
>
> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating on
> MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site where people
> can contribute. The actual amount that he is trying to raise is not
> actually all that much, particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that
> could follow from this.
>
> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and that some
> of you will actually do so.
>
> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>
> Andrew Stacey
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> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:05:19 +0000
> From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] suggestions for accessible 3d graphing paper
> giids
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> I am not familiar with three d graph paper, unless you are referring to the
> paper from APH? I find my student fare best with the graph board from aph
>
> Maureen Lewicki
> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
> Bethlehem Central Schools
> 700 Delaware Avenue
> Delmar, NY 12054
> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2013, at 5:59 AM, "Mary Woodyard"
> <marywoodyard at comcast.net<mailto:marywoodyard at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> My son will be starting a 3d graphing unit that is fairly short (2 weeks) in
> about a week. He spent some time searching online with his Math tutor for
> 3d Graphing paper and this is the graph paper that they found that worked
> the best for his vision from what they were able to find in free 3d graph
> paper options. Does anyone know of a more accessible free (or low cost)
> option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary Woodyard
> Parent, 17 year old visually impaired student
>
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> 1. Re: Latex training (John Gardner)
> 2. A project to advance MathML support in browsers (Andrew Stacey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:21:50 -0800
> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu<mailto:gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
> Message-ID:
> <00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec05b0$@orst.edu<mailto:00cd01cee671$334eac90$99ec0
> 5b0$@orst.edu>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Another suggestion. There's lots of Latex materials on
> www.access2science.com<http://www.access2science.com>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
> Jonathan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:42 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Latex training
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I haven't got access to the net with sufficient time to find the exact link
> for you but look for the Summery University held in conjunction with the
> ICCHP. Sessions were recorded from 2010 onwards. I'm not sure if the 2013
> ones are uploaded yet but the files mentioned should all be there for
> reference purposes.
> J
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Chapin
> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 8:51 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Subject: [Blindmath] Latex training
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for material, courses, tutorials or anything
> else that can be used to teach a student the basics of Latex.
>
> Paul Chapin
> Academic Technology Specialist
> Amherst College
> X2144
>
> Amherst College IT staff will never ask for your password, including by
> email. Any email asking for any password or username is almost certainly
> bogus. Never click on a link in an email to a site that requires a login as
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> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:00:00 +0100
> From: Andrew Stacey
> <andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no<mailto:andrew.stacey at math.ntnu.no>>
> To: Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
> Subject: [Blindmath] A project to advance MathML support in browsers
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>
> Dear all,
>
> I'd like to bring to everyone's attention a project to advance browser and
> e-reader support for MathML. The project description itself is very
> detailed, and explicitly mentions the issue of accessibility in the
> motivation section.
>
> The person behind this project is Fr?d?ric Wang. He is one of the people
> who has worked hard on MathML support in browser technology over the last
> few years, so is best placed to know what the issues are and what the next
> stage in development should be. So if anyone is going to improved matters,
> he's the best choice.
>
> He's looking for funding so that he can spend some time concentrating on
> MathML development and the website is on a crowd-funding site where people
> can contribute. The actual amount that he is trying to raise is not
> actually all that much, particularly given the wide-ranging benefits that
> could follow from this.
>
> I hope that all of you will consider supporting this project, and that some
> of you will actually do so.
>
> The website is: http://www.ulule.com/mathematics-ebooks/
>
> Andrew Stacey
>
>
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