[Blindmath] Susan Question on Graphing Calculators
Susan Osterhaus
osterhauss at tsbvi.edu
Thu Mar 6 00:02:03 UTC 2014
Hi Mary,
As I replied to Amber privately:
If the school is keeping all of your technology after you are finished in
May, they will probably need to keep the Orion TI-84+ as well. However,
you would have had a chance to learn how to use it and put forth a better
argument to appeal to your local Commission for the Blind or whatever
agency is in your area that assists adults who are blind pursue a career,
including extending their education. For example, here in Texas, college
students can ask their DARS caseworker to purchase one in order for them
to be successful in taking their college math classes and possibly for on
the job if their career requires such a tool. Showing them that you
already know how to use one and are already using it in your high school
math class would be a big plus I would think.
There has been a great demand for these calculators, and many have had to
wait on a back ordered list, so you REALLY want to hurry up and get on
this list if you expect to even get one in your hands before the school
year is over.
All the calculators and other technology that we purchase from APH on
federal quota funds (or otherwise) at TSBVI are retained by the school
after the student graduates so that they can be used for current and
future students. I believe that this is the practice for other
districts/schools in Texas and other states, but I could be wrong.
However, according to the Ex Officio Trustee Handbook:
Retention and Disposal of APH Products Purchased with Federal Quota Funds
APH products purchased with Federal Quota funds remain the property of the
respective Federal Quota account and the responsibility of the Ex Officio
Trustee.
Products purchased with Federal Quota funds revert to the inventory of the
Federal Quota account when students exit instructional programs or no
longer need them.
It is the responsibility of the Ex Officio Trustee to discard outdated or
unusable products purchased with Federal Quota funds.
In order to better leverage federal funds, products purchased with Federal
Quota funds may be loaned to other Federal Quota accounts.
If someone from APH, like Ken perhaps, knows otherwise, I would appreciate
a clarification.
Thanks for asking Mary.
Susan
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My son also uses The TI 84 audio Graphing Calculator which was purchased
for him by the school. My question for Susan is this based on her comment
to the senior to have the school purchase a calculator for her with Quota
funds.
If the school purchases the calculator this way, does the calculator stay
with the school when the student graduates or is it the student's to take
to college?
Mary Woodyard
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:25:22 -0600
From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
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Good morning,
At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one very
little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was hoping
to get a handheld one.
Thank you
--
Thanks
Amber Kraft
"You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:47:45 -0500
From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
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The only hand held Audio graphing Calculator that I know of is the Orion
TI-84 Plus you can find info at APH's web site. www.aph.org . The
calculator's web site is www.aph.org/orion and if you go to the resources
page there are mp3 and video demo's. You do not need to be sited to watch
the videos.
ken
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Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
Good morning,
At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one very
little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was hoping
to get a handheld one.
Thank you
--
Thanks
Amber Kraft
"You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:48:05 -0500 (EST)
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TI-84 Orion. Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use it
all through college
Bente Casile
Math Learning Specialist
Disability Support Services
Wake Technical Community College
Raleigh, NC
> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Good morning,
> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one
> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
> wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was
> hoping to get a handheld one.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Amber Kraft
> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:02:18 -0500 (EST)
From: hpscheffer at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
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My daughter's TVI got one from APH with the state quota. If you have a TVI
they can help with the order, or your special education department from
your school district could do that as well, you have to get through APH
and it should be free. The only one available is the Orion TI-84 Plus.
Here is a review from an 8th grader
Student Review of the Orion TI-84Plus Talking Graphing Calculator By
Jordan Hello. My name is Jordan. I am amiddle-school student and am in the
8th grade. I am in a Math 1class, which means that it?s time to pull out
the graphing calculators.Luckily, when this time came for me, I was
already prepared with my Orion TI-84Plus talking graphing calculator which
my VI teacher, Nita, had given me.
The device is made by Orion and Texas Instruments,who made the original
graphing calculators. This specific calculator, however,is called the
?Orion? calculator because it is able to speak to me and tell mewhat
buttons I?m pressing and the points I?ve plotted. What makes
thiscalculator unique is that in addition to the regular graphing
calculator keys,there is a special set of 10 keys on the top of it called
the Orion keys. Thesekeys help you perform certain functions on the
calculator such as going to thePreferences menu and repeating the playback
of certain equations.
The way that the Orion TI-84 Plus calculatorgraphs is unique and very
convenient. Basically, it uses tones to describe theline or the point I?ve
plotted on a graph. Although this is helpful, it can bea bit confusing
when you?re trying to find a specific point on a line or theintersection
of a linear equation. In this case, you?d switch to ?speech? mode,which
will then tell you each point on the line as you navigate along it
usingthe arrow keys. It will also tell you the intersection of a linear
equationwhen you do the usual ?Graph?, ?Second?, and ?Trace? process.
Also, thanks to aspecial tool that is not limited to the Orion TI-84 Plus
calculator, I can havemy graphs show up on my computer screen and am able
to send them using email.
Besides graphing, whether on an Orion or anormal calculator, you can set
programs, use applications, and do various otherthings.
Overall, I think this calculator is veryuseful. I?m able to easily plot
lines and linear equations, as well as dosimple things like add and
subtract. The speech is helpful, of course, and thetones are accommodating
when wondering what a line looks like on the screen. Idon?t think that
there should be anything changed, except for the fact that itmay
occasionally freeze. To solve this problem, the user has to reset
thecalculator by holding the ?Control? and ?Function? keys which are
particular tothe Orion device. Besides this, I don?t see any flaws and
don?t see why a blindstudent who is either in high school or 8th grade
should not haveone of these to use in their classroom and at home.
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From: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
To: blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 10:26 am
Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
Good morning,
At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one very
little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was hoping
to get a handheld one.
Thank you
--
Thanks
Amber Kraft
"You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:42:19 -0600
From: Susan Osterhaus <osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>
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Cc: Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
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Amber,
Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior in
high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one from APH on
federal quota money. Act quickly.
Susan
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
TI-84 Orion. Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use it
all through college
Bente Casile
Math Learning Specialist
Disability Support Services
Wake Technical Community College
Raleigh, NC
> On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft <amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Good morning,
> At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
> college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
> audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one
> very little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
> wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was
> hoping to get a handheld one.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Amber Kraft
> "You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:44:45 -0500
From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
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Amber I also wanted to mention since I didn't when I posted a response to
your query about hand held calculators, I work for APH and I am the
project Lead for APH on the Orion TI-84 Plus. With that said I am not
really advertising when I say it is the only hand held one. I am also
100% blind and have wanted this thing for almost 20 years.
We continue to improve the access on the Orion TI-84 Plus and we ask
students like yourself to join the beta list and contribute in giving us
ideas of how to make it better.
If you want to talk to me about it feel free to give me a call at (502)
899-2336. There are also people like Susan who has also posted that can
give you a great over view of how the calculator works and there are a few
of our experts and original beta testers on this list. So if you have
questions you can continue to ask them here and one of us will grab them.
I just didn't want people to think I was using this list as an advertising
place. If there are other devices I just don't know of them and I have
looked.
If you want to join the Orion TI-84 Plus user list you can subscribe to
it at Gc-subscribe at tech.aph.org
You can put subscribe in the subject and body so the spam filters don't
stop it from coming through. I am sure there are people that can help you
there to.
Ken
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Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:25 AM
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Subject: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
Good morning,
At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one very
little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was hoping
to get a handheld one.
Thank you
--
Thanks
Amber Kraft
"You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 11:45:06 +0000
From: "Lewicki, Maureen" <mlewicki at bcsd.neric.org>
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What is the best or easiest way to produce graphics? My student is
starting a unit on rotations, etc of geometric shapes. Using the aph mat
is good for instructional, but the classroom teacher is going to plow
through the diagrams MUCH faster than I can set them up. I always feel
like Lucille Ball when the candy conveyor belt got out of control.
I have microsoft paint, a tiger embosser, romeo, a PIAF, quick tac, excel,
etc.
I have used wiki stixs, and aph graph paper, but these are difficult for a
student to read, and the wiki stix don't travel in a backpack too well.
The worksheets I am given are pdf screen shots of used and re used
worksheets, so to enlarge and PIAF is not an option, unless I can get them
to look crisp.
Maureen Murphy Lewicki
Teacher of the Visually Impaired
Bethlehem Central Schools
700 Delaware Avenue
Delmar, NY 12054
http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:43 AM, "Susan Osterhaus"
<osterhauss at tsbvi.edu<mailto:osterhauss at tsbvi.edu>> wrote:
Amber,
Yes to the Orion TI-84+ Talking Graphing Calculator, and as a senior in
high school, you are still eligible to have your TVI order one from APH on
federal quota money. Act quickly.
Susan
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Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] audio graphing calculator
TI-84 Orion. Pricey, but it is worth it, especially since you can use it
all through college
Bente Casile
Math Learning Specialist
Disability Support Services
Wake Technical Community College
Raleigh, NC
On March 4, 2014 at 10:25 AM Amber Kraft
<amber.r.kraft at gmail.com<mailto:amber.r.kraft at gmail.com>>
wrote:
Good morning,
At this time I am a senior in High school and I am getting ready for
college. I know one thing I will be needing in college for math is an
audio graphing calculator. as of right now I have only had to use one very
little and the one I used was on the computer with JAWS, so I was
wondering what audio graphing calculators would be the best? I was hoping
to get a handheld one.
Thank you
--
Thanks
Amber Kraft
"You tell me I can't, I will show you I can."
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