[Blindmath] Math Type Translation Troubles

Sarah Jevnikar sarah.jevnikar at mail.utoronto.ca
Tue Nov 11 01:17:24 UTC 2014


Hi again Bob,
Would you be able to tell me how you did the conversions? I'm not entirely
familiar with Math Type, and sometimes get confused using it. I just want to
be sure that we're following the same process.
Thank you for your help,
Sarah


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Mathews [mailto:bobm at dessci.com] 
Sent: November-04-14 7:07 PM
To: Sarah Jevnikar; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Subject: RE: [Blindmath] Math Type Translation Troubles

Sarah, in addition to the information Caryn provided, this should be of some
help...

First, I need to stress that in MathType's Convert Equations macro, which
DBT uses, there is a bug in MathType 6.9, so it is critical that you upgrade
to MathType 6.9a. You don't need a new product key, and it's a free upgrade,
but you'll see problems until you upgrade.

I processed the document with MathType 6.9a, and it gave me this information
at the end: Converted 488 MathType objects, 10 MS Word "field equations",
and 2 Word 2007 (OMML) equations. I wouldn't expect much trouble with the
488 MathType objects, but I still proof-scanned the document for equations
that weren't converted. Here's what I found (page references are to the
original document, without converted equations): (Except for the equations
that have become pictures, the equations were able to convert with the
Convert Equations command, not Toggle TeX. Sometimes I had to run the
command 2-3 times to get it to correct, but they all did.)

1. Pg 5, beneath the paragraph named "Multiple cash flows", there is an
expression consisting of 3 fractions. This expression has at some point been
converted to an image. It is no longer a MathType object, and will need to
be replaced with a MathType object before you proceed.

2. Pg 43, in Rule 1 there is an equation that did not convert.

3. Pg 44, there are 2 that didn't convert. One of these is in Rule 4 and the
other in Rule 4.1.

4. Pg 53, there are 3 expressions in a table at the bottom of the page. All
3 of these are pictures and will need to be re-created as MathType objects.

5. Pg 62, Appendix. Two equations on this page didn't convert. 

6. Pg 70, Example 2 Solution. Multi-line equation didn't convert. 

7. Pg 72, "Take the variance of both sides:" equation didn't convert.

8. Pg 73, "The variance of this portfolio is:" equation didn't convert.

8. Pg 89, Equation following "To simplify..." didn't convert.

9. Pg 90, "Using equation 1..." equation didn't convert. Also equation
following "Solving out B..."

10. Pg 91, Example, equation following "From the budget line..." didn't
convert.

That's just under half the document, but the points are that 1) if the
equation has become a picture, it's not going to convert and 2) some of the
others (probably randomly) won't convert.

Hope that's of some help.

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Jevnikar [mailto:sarah.jevnikar at mail.utoronto.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 14:45
To: Bob Mathews; 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Subject: RE: [Blindmath] Math Type Translation Troubles

That's embarrassing ... My apologies. Try this link instead.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12727315/Financial%20Economics%20Course%
20Pack%20-%20Original%20-%20Copy.docx
Thanks,
Sarah


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Mathews [mailto:bobm at dessci.com]
Sent: November-04-14 3:35 PM
To: Sarah Jevnikar; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: RE: [Blindmath] Math Type Translation Troubles

Sarah,

What you uploaded to Dropbox was only the shortcut to your file. The
shortcut still points to a file on your computer. Please upload the actual
docx file and we can look at it.

Thanks,
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Jevnikar via Blindmath [mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 14:26
To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
Subject: [Blindmath] Math Type Translation Troubles

Hi all,
I used MS Word 2010, Math Type 6.9 and DBT 11.2 to translate the file below
into a .brf file with Nemeth code. It worked pretty well, but then I got
further into the document and realized that some formulas were mistranslated
and others were missing entirely. Opening the original file and attempting
the alt-\ command to translate troublesome formulae into LaTeX crashed Word.
Does anyone know what might be going wrong, and what I can do to fix it? The
file can be found at
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12727315/Financial%20Economics%20Course%
20Pack%20-%20Original%20-%20Copy.docx.lnk
A missing formula can be found on page 57, under the paragraph that ends "If
we do so (and you are not required to) then the optimal portfolio of risky
assets will be"
An example of a mistranslated formula (or one that just looks funny) can be
found on page 70 in the solution to Example-1. These are not the only
examples, but it would appear everything before page 57 is readable.

Thank you for your help and suggestions.

Sarah






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