[Blindmath] using math on the apex

Sun Sep 7 00:33:39 UTC 2014

Hi Amanda,

If you are going to get lots of MS Word documents with mathematical stuff in it, why not either invest in a  copy of MathType for yourself or ask your staff to do the following for you.

If you open a  document (even with equations created using the basic equation editor) on a machine with MathType, you will be able to convert all the equations into their LaTeX equivalent in a matter of seconds. Highlight all (Ctrl+A) and then toggle the equations using Alt+\

You can do this in reverse to create the documents yourself if you chose to. I occasionally have to interact with MS Word users for document preparation, especially for such things as exams because the central university systems can't handle LaTeX. I also mark assignments this way. I go back and forth from TeX to MathType regularly. It is possible to save these files with the MathType exposed in TeX for later consumption.

Personally, if I were a student I would invest in my own copy of MathType as I want independence. I can then make use of the LEAN editing tool being worked on by John Gardner which is free to individual blind users. This tool is also braille friendly.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Lacy via Blindmath
Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2014 10:40 a.m.
To: Daniel Gillen; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] using math on the apex

Daniel, Can you assign dot patterns to these symbols in NVDA? Normally I use LaTeX, but I occasionally have the misfortune of meeting a math professor who creates equations in MS word.

Amanda
On 9/6/2014 4:07 PM, Daniel Gillen via Blindmath wrote:
> as I am a college student majoring in physics, I understand that it may be better to stick to computer braille code especially with the higher math courses. This is because many teachers and professors will not be comfortable reading such cumbersome notation, perhaps much more cumbersome than the LaTeX encoding. Also, because of what I am studying, I have assigned many shortcut keys to the extended Unicode characters (Such as the integral sign, the partial differential sign, and many others). This has made the symbols possible to be printed on paper or in word documents. I have done this even before I was in college, especially for my precalculus high school course and a couple before then. Hopefully this is helpful information. You may want to consult the user guide about Unicode character insertion via the Unicode tables and assigning key and dot combinations to these characters for working in computer braille.
>
> Thank you,
> Daniel sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 4:52 PM, "Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> This is a super topic!  Too am looking forward to people's reactions. My students have been using computer braille for years, also, and what ends up printing out for the teachers is MUCH. Better than what prints out with the updated nemith option. I don't know how this will translate, but here goes. If you insert a parenthesis, it prints out with the word open parenthesis, or close parenthesis. If you use a superscript, the word super script appears. It reads in print much like you might hope a sighted person would read a math equation....but to me, it seems a bit much for the sighted teachers to take in! So, for example, 2(3+ x/3) would read 2 open parenthesis 3 +open fraction x fraction line 3 close fraction close parenthesis.
>>
>> As I said, seems to me a bit much for the teacher, but not insurmountable! The question is, does it make more sense to stick to computer braille??
>>
>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>> 700 Delaware Avenue
>> Delmar, NY 12054
>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
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>> On Sep 6, 2014, at 3:33 PM, "petras via Blindmath" <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
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>> Hi all.
>> I recently upgraded to keysoft 9.4 and would like to know how to use math on the apex.  Currently I use the brailler to do it, but I'm just wondering how.
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