From d.hajas.lists at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 12:25:41 2015
From: d.hajas.lists at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Hajas_D=E1niel?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:25:41 +0100
Subject: [Blindmath] math track
Message-ID: <55bf5dc5.4958c20a.a6d5b.ffffd65e@mx.google.com>

Hi All,

 

Recently I downloaded the application developed by NASA called Math track.

 

For those of you who use it, does it work fine? What I experienced is that
both on XP and Windows 7 with JAWS it gives an error message when trying to
plot an equation. It works just fine with y=c and x=c, however, if I enter
any custom equation or pick any equation from the drop down menu other than
the constant plots, it says in the graph description that Math track
encountered a problem and I should restart it. Well, I did a number of times
but all the same result.

 

This is version 1.2. Please let me know if you think I am doing something
wrong or if the application simply doesn't work any longer.

 

Best wishes,

Daniel 

 

 



From jesusloves1966 at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 19:41:50 2015
From: jesusloves1966 at gmail.com (David Moore)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:41:50 -0400
Subject: [Blindmath] math track
In-Reply-To: <55bf5dc5.4958c20a.a6d5b.ffffd65e@mx.google.com>
References: <55bf5dc5.4958c20a.a6d5b.ffffd65e@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAB35765HFdEk+J8PSfyFJCikFNw2wuJOcN9nWUpUuXmxvdsO9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all.
I want to be a math teacher at a community college. I have never heard
of Math Track. I am very interested in what it can do in terms of
editing math and reading math equations. Is this a stand alone math
editor? Is it just a graphing program or can it allow you to
manipulate and edit equations like Math Type and LEAN? Thanks a lot
for asking about this, and I am looking forward to reading all of your
inputs.

On 8/3/15, Hajas D?niel <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Recently I downloaded the application developed by NASA called Math track.
>
>
>
> For those of you who use it, does it work fine? What I experienced is that
> both on XP and Windows 7 with JAWS it gives an error message when trying to
> plot an equation. It works just fine with y=c and x=c, however, if I enter
> any custom equation or pick any equation from the drop down menu other than
> the constant plots, it says in the graph description that Math track
> encountered a problem and I should restart it. Well, I did a number of
> times
> but all the same result.
>
>
>
> This is version 1.2. Please let me know if you think I am doing something
> wrong or if the application simply doesn't work any longer.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blindmath mailing list
> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Blindmath:
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> BlindMath Gems can be found at
> <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>



From ljmaher at swbell.net  Mon Aug  3 19:53:11 2015
From: ljmaher at swbell.net (Louis Maher)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:53:11 -0500
Subject: [Blindmath] math track
In-Reply-To: <CAB35765HFdEk+J8PSfyFJCikFNw2wuJOcN9nWUpUuXmxvdsO9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55bf5dc5.4958c20a.a6d5b.ffffd65e@mx.google.com>
	<CAB35765HFdEk+J8PSfyFJCikFNw2wuJOcN9nWUpUuXmxvdsO9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002201d0ce26$07be5e60$173b1b20$@swbell.net>

The MathTrax software can be found at:
NASA MathTrax  Audible Graphing Calculator http://learn.arc.nasa.gov/mathtrax/index.html  

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Moore via Blindmath
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 2:42 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Cc: David Moore <jesusloves1966 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] math track

Hi all.
I want to be a math teacher at a community college. I have never heard of Math Track. I am very interested in what it can do in terms of editing math and reading math equations. Is this a stand alone math editor? Is it just a graphing program or can it allow you to manipulate and edit equations like Math Type and LEAN? Thanks a lot for asking about this, and I am looking forward to reading all of your inputs.

On 8/3/15, Hajas D?niel <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Recently I downloaded the application developed by NASA called Math track.
>
>
>
> For those of you who use it, does it work fine? What I experienced is 
> that both on XP and Windows 7 with JAWS it gives an error message when 
> trying to plot an equation. It works just fine with y=c and x=c, 
> however, if I enter any custom equation or pick any equation from the 
> drop down menu other than the constant plots, it says in the graph 
> description that Math track encountered a problem and I should restart 
> it. Well, I did a number of times but all the same result.
>
>
>
> This is version 1.2. Please let me know if you think I am doing 
> something wrong or if the application simply doesn't work any longer.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Blindmath:
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> 40gmail.com
> BlindMath Gems can be found at
> <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>

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From d.hajas.lists at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 21:25:15 2015
From: d.hajas.lists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Hajas_D=C3=A1niel?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:25:15 +0100
Subject: [Blindmath] math track
In-Reply-To: <CAB35765HFdEk+J8PSfyFJCikFNw2wuJOcN9nWUpUuXmxvdsO9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55bf5dc5.4958c20a.a6d5b.ffffd65e@mx.google.com>
	<CAB35765HFdEk+J8PSfyFJCikFNw2wuJOcN9nWUpUuXmxvdsO9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55bfdc3b.c709c20a.db9f0.ffff9de3@mx.google.com>

Hi David,

Math tracks enables you to input an equation you would like to plot. Then you can view the output either as a textual description of the graph or as a sonified version of it. The audio features offers a number of controls such as, zoom in, zoom out, exploring, and usual limit changing etc. A very handy and well prepared tool. Only if it worked.

Look forward to hearing from people who might use it. I really wonder if it is the software or me who is massing something up.

Bests,
Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Moore via Blindmath
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:42 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] math track

Hi all.
I want to be a math teacher at a community college. I have never heard of Math Track. I am very interested in what it can do in terms of editing math and reading math equations. Is this a stand alone math editor? Is it just a graphing program or can it allow you to manipulate and edit equations like Math Type and LEAN? Thanks a lot for asking about this, and I am looking forward to reading all of your inputs.

On 8/3/15, Hajas D?niel <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Recently I downloaded the application developed by NASA called Math track.
>
>
>
> For those of you who use it, does it work fine? What I experienced is 
> that both on XP and Windows 7 with JAWS it gives an error message when 
> trying to plot an equation. It works just fine with y=c and x=c, 
> however, if I enter any custom equation or pick any equation from the 
> drop down menu other than the constant plots, it says in the graph 
> description that Math track encountered a problem and I should restart 
> it. Well, I did a number of times but all the same result.
>
>
>
> This is version 1.2. Please let me know if you think I am doing 
> something wrong or if the application simply doesn't work any longer.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Blindmath mailing list
> Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Blindmath:
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> 40gmail.com
> BlindMath Gems can be found at
> <http://www.blindscience.org/blindmath-gems-home>
>

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From A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz  Tue Aug  4 00:52:29 2015
From: A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz (Godfrey, Jonathan)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:52:29 +0000
Subject: [Blindmath] FW: Call for Papers: DEIMS2016
In-Reply-To: <201507142254.LXTLZYU8@59.106.19.133>
References: <201507142254.LXTLZYU8@59.106.19.133>
Message-ID: <D59DA89C3CD73C44A799E7087F8E6A9E1899245D@tur-exch-node1.massey.ac.nz>

Some professionals might find this event interesting as authors or just as attendees.
I think blindies should be aware of the events taking place that should lead to changes affecting our futures.
N.B. the webpage for the 2016 event is not available yet, but you can see the details of the first and second events held in 2009 and 2012.
Jonathan


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Call for Papers: DEIMS2016

Dear Friends,

** With apologies for multiple postings. **

We would greatly appreciate it if you could forward this e-mail message to persons or organizations who might be interested in the following event.


CALL FOR PAPERS

The 3rd International Workshop on "Digitization and E-Inclusion in Mathematics and Science 2016" (DEIMS2016)
   February 4-6, 2016
   at Shonan Village Center, Kanagawa, Japan
      http://shonan-village.co.jp/svc/
   Workshop Website: http://workshop.sciaccess.net/DEIMS2016 
      (will open by the end of July, 2015)
   E-mail: deims2016-office at mail.sciaccess.net 


A significant number of online journals and e-textbooks, as well as 
other forms of  academic/educational information are now digitized 
for various purposes.  Computerized processing of such information 
is also being actively studied.  For instance, in Japan, so-called 
"digital textbooks" (the official name of an e-textbook in Japan) are 
supposed to be fully adopted in elementary and junior-high school 
by April, 2020.  Digitization is certainly a keyword in contemporary 
society, in which "Knowledge" forms its foundation.

However, digitization of STEM (science, technology, engineering and 
mathematics) contents and its applications have their own 
problems, different from those in a non-technical field.  For 
example, while many online journals are provided in PDF (Acrobat 
Portable Document Format), a mathematical formula in such 
documents has no semantic representation.  It is only 
depictedvisually as a set of characters/symbols in a two-
dimensional layout or an image.  Thus, we cannot use it for further 
processing such as searching the mathematical expression in PDF 
or reading it out with a screen reader. 

We believe that one of the most serious problems is the poor 
accessibility of digitized STEM contents.  In many cases, it is hard 
for print-disabled people to read/author those contents although 
their accessibility is definitely important to achieve a truly 
inclusive 
society.  In terms of a non-technical document, even if the original 
one is inaccessible, we can usually easily convert it into an 
accessible representation with standard tools such as OCR (optical 
character recognition) technology; however, as far as STEM 
contents are concerned, we cannot at all.

Since a STEM document includes many technical characters, 
symbols and notations such as mathematical expressions, chemical 
formulas, figures, tables, etc., its conversion into accessible format
 
such as LaTeX or MathML is quite beyond the capabilities of the 
standard tools.  In addition, to establish a STEM-accessibility 
environment in education, digital libraries or others, not only 
conversion tools but also many other systems such as authoring 
tools and accessible players should be improved/developed. 

The 3rd International Workshop on "Digitization and E-Inclusion in 
Mathematics and Science 2016" (DEIMS2016), which is supported 
by Nihon University, Junior College Funabashi Campus and the 
Not-for-Profit Organization: Science Accessibility Net, will bring 
together experts from around the world to present and discuss 
state-of-the-art technologies (research and development), novel 
activities and future perspectives on digitization/computerized-
processing of STEM contents, their applications and accessibility.

A similar workshop was held in Fukuoka, December 2009 and in 
Tokyo, February, 2012.  DEIMS2016 is planned to be the third one 
of this series of international workshops.  For more than 15 years, 
the Infty Project, (The primary organisers of this workshop)  has 
also organized a series of annual domestic workshops on scientific-
information processing and its accessibility.  DEIMS16 is also 
regarded as one of this series.
To view information on the previous international workshops in this 
series, please visit 
the DEIMS2012 home page: 
   http://workshop.sciaccess.net/DEIMS2012 and 
the WEIMS2009 home page: 
   http://workshop.sciaccess.net/WEIMS2009.

the main topics of the workshop will include, but not be limited to, 

  - Digitizing and processing printed scientific documents 
    (technology / practice)
  - Digital mathematical / scientific libraries
  - Accessibility of scientific documents (e.g. PDF to DAISY: Digital 
    Accessible Information System)
  - Accessibility of tables and figures
  - Accessible e-books, in particular, accessible e-textbooks
  - E-learning, online services in scientific fields
  - Assistive tools for disabled people
  - Services and technologies for inclusive environments
  - Higher education for disabled students
  - Other related topics.

Keynote Lecture
Prof. Dr. Volker Sorge
   The University of Birmingham, UK.
   Prof. Sorge will present a lecture on his amazing work which has 
   greatly increased the accessibility of chemistry.   His talk will 
   include a description of the new OCR system for chemical 
   formulas developed by his team.

Call for papers:
To submit a paper, please access the DEIMS12 submission page in 
the Easy Chair Conference System:
   https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=deims2016
and upload the extended abstract (ranging from 4 to 6 pages).  If 
you do not as yet possess an Easy Chair account, you will firstly 
need to create it before creating your submission.

If, for any reason, you encounter difficulties in accessing Easy 
Chair, You may send the extended abstract by e-mail to:
   E-mail: deims2016-office at mail.sciaccess.net. 

For more detailed information, please visit the DEIMS2016 web 
page:
   http://workshop.sciaccess.net/DEIMS2016 
      (will open by the end of July, 2015).

Key Dates:
   25 September 2015 (JST) - Submission deadline of extended 
   abstracts,
   30 October 2015 (JST)  - Notification of acceptance and
   18 December 2015 (JST)   - Submission deadline of camera-
   ready versions.

If you have any questions, please contact Katsuhito Yamaguchi 
at The workshop contact e-mail address: 
   deims2016-office at mail.sciaccess.net

Best regards,

Katsuhito Yamaguchi (General Chair) and Masakazu Suzuki (Sub Chair)



--------------------

Katsuhito Yamaguchi
   Conference Chair

The 3rd International Workshop on
"Digitization and E-Inclusion in Mathematics and Science 2016" 
(DEIMS2016)

   URL: http://workshop.sciaccess.net/DEIMS2016
           (will open by the end of July,2015)
   E-mail: DEIMS2016-office at mail.sciaccess.net
           or eugene at gaea.jcn.nihon-u.ac.jp



From startrekcafe at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 01:06:06 2015
From: startrekcafe at gmail.com (Marvin Hunkin)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 10:36:06 +0930
Subject: [Blindmath] accessible uml
Message-ID: <004401d0cf1a$eafb4720$c0f1d560$@gmail.com>

Hi.

Well think I might have found a solution.

And will paste the url below.

Just listened to a utube video.

Called ccni uml editor.

A collaboration between a couple of universities in the uk.

Yes, if this works, it is a java based tool.

And the habtech feedback audio device as well.

Think you can get a academic licence.

Going to provide the link.

As doing a information technology programming course and need to create use,
case, state, class, and sequence diagrams for an assignment, pull the data
from a visual studio c # project and a sql management studio database
project.

Thanks.

 

http://ccmi.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/downloads

 



From jesusloves1966 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 00:12:16 2015
From: jesusloves1966 at gmail.com (David Moore)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:12:16 -0400
Subject: [Blindmath] accessible uml
In-Reply-To: <004401d0cf1a$eafb4720$c0f1d560$@gmail.com>
References: <004401d0cf1a$eafb4720$c0f1d560$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB357644sVDcgRcHHDAGHdQrM=OXjiMgPoQ=sLpX4r3fSGhELw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you so much. I am so interested in being able to teach and
present math in a way that a sighted person would; I will watch this
video and check this out and let you know how it works. Have a great
day.

On 8/4/15, Marvin Hunkin via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Well think I might have found a solution.
>
> And will paste the url below.
>
> Just listened to a utube video.
>
> Called ccni uml editor.
>
> A collaboration between a couple of universities in the uk.
>
> Yes, if this works, it is a java based tool.
>
> And the habtech feedback audio device as well.
>
> Think you can get a academic licence.
>
> Going to provide the link.
>
> As doing a information technology programming course and need to create
> use,
> case, state, class, and sequence diagrams for an assignment, pull the data
> from a visual studio c # project and a sql management studio database
> project.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> http://ccmi.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/downloads
>
>
>
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From steve.jacobson at visi.com  Fri Aug 14 18:57:17 2015
From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:57:17 -0500
Subject: [Blindmath] open position at SAS?
Message-ID: <SNT406-EAS208A64D26C33EE3929EDF19BC7C0@phx.gbl>

This came across a couple other NFBNET lists but I thought it might be of interest here.

> -----Original Message-----
 From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeanine Kay
 Lineback via nfbcs
 Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 1:52 PM
 Subject: [nfbcs] open position at SAS?
> 
> The following job opportunity just came across my desk. If you aren?t
> interested, perhaps you know someone who is.
> 
> Below the email for the job posting, I pasted the details listed when you go
> to the job posting.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ed Summers [mailto:Ed.Summers at sas.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:37 AM
> To: Ed Summers
> Subject: Recommendation for open position at SAS?
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Friends,
> 
> 
> 
> We just posted a job opening for an Accessibility Tester on the SAS
> accessibility team. We are looking for someone that uses assistive technology
> on a daily basis.
> 
> 
> 
> I know that many of you have worked with outstanding students in the past
> that are now in the workforce. I would greatly appreciate it if you could scan
> your memories for the students that stood out as rock stars. Some of the
> hard requirements are tech-savvy, great communication skills, and a
> Bachelors degree. Please feel free to share this email or send me their name
> and contact info.
> 
> 
> 
> Here?s the link to the job posting:
> 
> 
> 
> https://sas.taleo.net/careersection/10000/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en
> <https://sas.taleo.net/careersection/10000/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=2000
> 8291> &job=20008291
> 
> 
> 
> The position will be open for a few days or a few weeks at most. Candidates
> must apply online using the link above to be considered for the position.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ed
> 
> --
> 
> Ed Summers
> 
> Senior Manager, Accessibility and Applied Assistive Technology
> 
> Got data? Get SAS ? THE POWER TO KNOW
> 
> www.sas.com/accessibility
> 
> ed.summers at sas.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Job Description
> 
> Development Tester-20008291
> 
> 
> 
> Description
> 
> The mission of the SAS accessibility team is to enable people of all abilities to
> access the power of analytics. We are creating innovative technology that
> enables students and professionals with disabilities to analyze data, gain
> insights that drive scientific discovery, and make timely informed decisions in
> the business world. Learn more at www.sas.com/accessibility.
> 
> As a tester on the SAS accessibility team, you will use your knowledge of
> users with disabilities, accessibility standards, and assistive technologies to
> improve SAS products, documentation, training, and support materials.
> 
> Primary responsibilities:
> 
> list of 7 items
> 
> ? Test SAS products during development and report accessibility defects
> using SAS? defect tracking system.
> 
> ? Share test results with customers using the Voluntary Product Accessibility
> Template (VPAT) and similar forms.
> 
> ? Collaborate with designers and developers to create interactions that
> delight all SAS users.
> 
> ? Collaborate with development and product managers to prioritize
> accessibility defects and features.
> 
> ? Collaborate with technical writers to share information with end users in
> the form of product documentation, videos, and/or white papers.
> 
> ? Share your accessibility subject matter expertise with SAS RD staff.
> 
> ? Perform other duties as assigned.
> 
> list end
> 
> 
> 
> Qualifications
> 
> 
> 
> Essential qualifications:
> 
> 
> 
> list of 4 items
> 
> ? Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or a related quantitative field.
> 
> ? Excellent working knowledge of at least one screen reader such as
> VoiceOver, JAWS, or NVDA.
> 
> ? Intimate understanding of the ways that people with disabilities use
> technology.
> 
> ? Excellent working knowledge of accessibility standards such as the Web
> Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) or the Section 508 Information and
> Communication Technology Guidelines.
> 
> list end
> 
> 
> 
> Additional qualifications:
> 
> 
> 
> list of 5 items
> 
> ? Familiarity with agile development practices and testing techniques.
> 
> ? Excellent written communication skills and a proven ability to communicate
> complex concepts clearly in writing.
> 
> ? Excellent verbal communication skills and a proven ability to establish
> productive working relationships.
> 
> ? Proven ability to work productively alone or in teams.
> 
> ? Proven ability to identify and complete the most important tasks in a fast-
> paced work environment.
> 
> list end
> 
> 
> 
> Preferences:
> 
> 
> 
> list of 5 items
> 
> ? Experience using SAS products.
> 
> ? Experience writing code using at least one modern programming language.
> 
> ? Experience with web technologies and web component libraries.
> 
> ? Experience with at least one accessibility API.
> 
> ? Experience with accessibility testing tools or APIs.
> 
> list end
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> list of 4 items
> 
> ? SAS is an equal opportunity employer.  All qualified applicants will receive
> consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex,
> national origin, disability status, protected veteran status or any other
> characteristic protected by law.
> 
> ? The level of this position will be determined based on the applicant's
> education, skills and experience.
> 
> ? Resumes may be considered in the order they are received.
> 
> ? SAS employees performing certain job functions may require access to
> technology or software subject to export or import regulations. To comply
> with these regulations, SAS may obtain nationality or citizenship information
> from applicants for employment. SAS collects this information solely for trade
> law compliance purposes and does not use it to discriminate unfairly in the
> hiring process.
> 
> list end
> 
> 
> 
> Job
> 
> Software RD
> 
> 
> 
> Primary Location
> 
> US-NC-Cary
> 
> 
> 
> Organization
> 
> SAS Institute Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> Job Posting
> 
> Jul 29, 2015, 9:42:21 AM
> 
> 
> 
> Unposting Date
> 
> Ongoing
> 
> * Classification Full-time
> 
> 
> 
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From shickeytha at gmail.com  Mon Aug 31 22:55:54 2015
From: shickeytha at gmail.com (Shickeytha Chandler)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:55:54 -0400
Subject: [Blindmath] Stata
Message-ID: <CAFCkBpveHHdGpJ7uMXs5=EPq6hN=At-Ajp_-9_7jGJKUHELd5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am doing a graduate-level research project that involves working
with a rather large data set (99 variables, over 2 million
observations). I am just beginning to learn Stata. Their website
indicates that the software is Section 508 compliant... However, my
correspondence with Stata technical support has proven less than
helpful. First, they advised me that NVDA is much more compatible with
Stata than JAWS. So, since NVDA is available free of charge (and
because I have been wanting to explore NVDA anyway), I downloaded it.
I immediately noticed that NVDA was not reading the results window,
and, in fact, there were some things that JAWS was reading that NVDA
did not read. Then I discovered that I could create a text log and
save my sessions that way, and when I opened the separate text file,
it would read everything from the results window. That seems to be
working, but I am not yet proficient enough with the software to
really know if it is copying everything it is supposed to copy into
the text log (and subsequently reading everything to me via screen
reader). When I told tech support that the results window was not
being read, they advised adjusting the scrollback buffer to 32 under
the "preferences" menu. I went there only to find that this setting
involves a sliding bar and has no alternative way to adjust the
setting (such as check box, combo box, button, etc.) To my knowledge,
no screen reader can adjust slider bars. (Please correct me if I'm
uninformed.)

Anyway, the bottom line is I am wondering if anyone can provide me
with any guidance on using JAWS or NVDA with Stata. Thanks in advance
for any advice or resources.

Cheers,

Shickeytha



From A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz  Mon Aug 31 23:32:42 2015
From: A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz (Godfrey, Jonathan)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:32:42 +0000
Subject: [Blindmath] Stata
In-Reply-To: <CAFCkBpveHHdGpJ7uMXs5=EPq6hN=At-Ajp_-9_7jGJKUHELd5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFCkBpveHHdGpJ7uMXs5=EPq6hN=At-Ajp_-9_7jGJKUHELd5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D59DA89C3CD73C44A799E7087F8E6A9E1BD8172A@tur-exch-node1.massey.ac.nz>

Hello,

It's been a few years since I last tested Stata, but the creation of the text log for your results was the optimal way for anyone using a screen reader to get the output. If you save that log file with a txt extension you will be able to open it in a browser and use the refresh key to update it periodically. Access to the results window is likely to be limited in its usefulness because I suspect you find it hard to extract the results for inclusion in any reports you need to write.

I've held any claims about s508 compliance and statistical software in contempt for some time. I've demonstrated that the VPAT statements made by some companies are either plain wrong, or so far from the truth as to be misleading. There are several exceptions to this (SAS and maybe SPSS) but Minitab has made statements about its software that I have demonstrated to be completely untrue. I have not investigated the formal documentation of Stata because it is not commonly used in undergraduate settings. I'd like to see how Stata makes this claim.

I am interested in the comments from Stata about NVDA being a superior option. I do not see why this is the case given the workflow that is necessary to get the desired output. If you could send copies of any communications received to me off list a.j.godfrey at massey.ac.nz I can follow up on them.

Good luck with Stata,
Jonathan
 



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Subject: [Blindmath] Stata

Hi all,

I am doing a graduate-level research project that involves working with a rather large data set (99 variables, over 2 million observations). I am just beginning to learn Stata. Their website indicates that the software is Section 508 compliant... However, my correspondence with Stata technical support has proven less than helpful. First, they advised me that NVDA is much more compatible with Stata than JAWS. So, since NVDA is available free of charge (and because I have been wanting to explore NVDA anyway), I downloaded it.
I immediately noticed that NVDA was not reading the results window, and, in fact, there were some things that JAWS was reading that NVDA did not read. Then I discovered that I could create a text log and save my sessions that way, and when I opened the separate text file, it would read everything from the results window. That seems to be working, but I am not yet proficient enough with the software to really know if it is copying everything it is supposed to copy into the text log (and subsequently reading everything to me via screen reader). When I told tech support that the results window was not being read, they advised adjusting the scrollback buffer to 32 under the "preferences" menu. I went there only to find that this setting involves a sliding bar and has no alternative way to adjust the setting (such as check box, combo box, button, etc.) To my knowledge, no screen reader can adjust slider bars. (Please correct me if I'm
uninformed.)

Anyway, the bottom line is I am wondering if anyone can provide me with any guidance on using JAWS or NVDA with Stata. Thanks in advance for any advice or resources.

Cheers,

Shickeytha

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