[Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra

Mon Dec 14 17:47:58 UTC 2015

Dood, Chill out. This is not a community for people to bad mouth others.

On 12/14/2015 1:17 AM, Jeremy via Blindmath wrote:
> So you are not a mathematics professor at a college, right?
>
> You are not simply talking to a single person when posting a message
> publicly. You could have written her off list if your goal was to
> communicate with her alone, but that wouldn't have afforded you the
> desperate opportunity to try to wow listers with your self-assessed scary
> mathematical abilities.
>
> It is important people learn to question those trying to pass themselves off
> as authorities in whatever endeavor, so I'm sorry if you are troubled by my
> basic questioning. And you never answered the question but chose to redirect
> focus to something unrelated.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Moore via Blindmath
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 12:05 AM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: David Moore
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra
>
> I did not say that no one needs Braille to do math at all. I was talking to
> Laura and Laura only. I was just telling her to try using a human reader and
> to do steps in her head before taking the time to learn the formal Nemeth
> Code. You are putting words in my mouth that I did not say. Of course people
> learn differently. This is what I preach all the time. I know that Blind
> people need Braille to do math, but not everyone. That is what the normal
> curve is all about. If you did a 90 percent confidence interval around the
> mean, it would show that not all of the blind need Braille. That is all I
> said and end this now. I sent Laura three messages by the way, replying to
> three different messages. I have already talked with Laura and others, and
> Laura and the others agreed that Laura should not quit her class to learn
> Braille right now. Just stick to the subject and quit questioning my
> credentials. Just calm down and take a chill pill. Have a great one.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy via Blindmath
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:51 AM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Cc: Jeremy
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra
>
> Post the faculty website listing you as "college mathematics professor at a
> community college." If this is not the case, I think it may not be legal for
> someone to walk around playing pretend in regards to professional academic
> credentials.
>
> Though you think you may have excelled at mathematics using your technique,
> it is probably very likely that an objective comparison of methods and
> outcomes may not be as generous to your self-assessment of your mathematic
> ability.
>
> If you have truly worked with as many individuals as you claim, it is likely
> you would know by now that people learn in very different ways, and not
> everyone will be as fluent with mathematics as another, so claiming no one
> needs braille and alike to complete math assignments is the type of comment
> coming from an amateur and not a professional. Surely you've heard of the
> normal distribution, if so, why would you dare make such a comment?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Moore via Blindmath
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:36 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: David Moore
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra
>
> Hi Laura,
> I had sight until I was 15. By the way, my name is David Moore. After I lost
> my sight, I learned how to do all the math I had done up through high school
> algebra in my head the way that I had seen it with my eyes. You can learn
> how to concentrate so well, that you could be able to see the algebra in
> your head just how you would see it written and do all of the steps in your
> head and obtain the answer by seeing every step just like it is in front of
> your eyes. I Majored in math by using this method. If someone reads you a
> problem, you can learn how to keep every step straight in your head. If you
> need some braille to write down, just make up any code you want. No one else
> reads the Braille anyway, so as long as you know what it means, you can just
> make up your code. Please email me, Laura. Braille is not needed to do math
> and do not let these Braille crazy people tell you that. If I do write math
> down in Braille, I use some made up code, because I am the only one who
> reads Braille. I will share my experience with you and teach you tricks of
> doing all math in your head. Have a great one, can't wait to talk to you. I
> will help you get an A in that class. I have tutored sighted and blind alike
> just for fun. You will be fine and you can do it. I am a college mathematics
> professor at a community college. I am also totally blind. You can do it, I
> am proof. Take care.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louis Maher via Blindmath
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 10:11 PM
> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> Cc: Louis Maher
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra
>
> You must learn Braille and Nemeth Code which is the Braille mathematics
> code.
>
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone 713-444-7838
> E-mail ljmaher at swbell.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laura
> Etori via Blindmath
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 7:34 PM
> To: Blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Laura Etori <letori.etori6 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] alternative methods of learning college algebra
>
> greetings everyone
>
> I am a college student and i am not proficient in braille. that is because i
> lost my sight recently.
>
> for my core curricular courses i am expected to take college algebra and
> since i do not know math braille i would love to get suggestions from all of
> you on how i can be able to go through my course using alternative methods.
>
> i am totally blind and eager to take up any suggestions.
>
> your input is highly appreciated and thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> --
> for it is Him who works in us, and works through us, and makes everything
> beautiful and marvelous in His time and splendour.
> Kind regards
> Laura Etori
>
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