[Blindmath] MathML and Voiceover

Mon Feb 15 12:54:58 UTC 2016

It depends upon what type of document format you are trying to read. If you are simply trying to read MathML expressions in web pages within the Firefox browser, then MathPlayer and NVDA will do the trick. But if you are trying to read math expressions within a Word document, then you will also need to have MathType installed.

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From: Blindmath [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Amanda Lacy via Blindmath [blindmath at nfbnet.org]
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] MathML and Voiceover

I thought MathType was an MS Word thing and that I could just use
MathPlayer to read expressions in Firefox.

On 2/13/16, Shannon Pruitt via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> This may have been mentioned somewhere already--if so I'm sorry. But you
> will need MathType in addition to math player.
>
> Shannon
>
>> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Allan Mesoga via Blindmath
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sorry to know that.  I installed MathPlayer in my Windows 7 32bit
>> service pack one with MSWord 2007 installed.  Also used NVDA because
>> NVDA is the recommended screen reader according to Design Science
>> website.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Allan
>>
>>> On 2/13/16, Amanda Lacy via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I just tried installing MathPlayer on my XP machine and it gave an
>>> error and quit.
>>>
>>>> On 2/12/16, Allan Mesoga via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I suggest to use NVDA of NV Access together with MathPlayer of Design
>>>> Science if you have windows OS.  I find it easier to read MathML using
>>>> these apps. You can check the download links of these apps at
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.armesoga.xtreemhost.com_index.php_allan_tutorial&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=Occxk9DO_G0SjrXkDlRCat9MDAKCHBoXasB3DQfpSI8&s=dpyUtTOzNyx3yH3UBLCu9xhVhQedgkfr0q_zegAlpnc&e=
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/12/16, Bill Dengler via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I use this tool. YOu’ll need to remove \documentclass\ \begin
>>>>> {document},
>>>>> \end{document}, \usepackage, and \section tags unless you want those
>>>>> raw
>>>>> tags appearing in the output.
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mathtowebonline.com&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=Occxk9DO_G0SjrXkDlRCat9MDAKCHBoXasB3DQfpSI8&s=c8TCPbEQ0_1cl6_A9FRObQ3myBNb7XXvvsHIEsbv3wo&e=
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Maurizio Gabelli via Blindmath
>>>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>> How to convert latex document in mathml?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-02-12 2:19 GMT+01:00 Bill Dengler via Blindmath
>>>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What version of OS X are you using?
>>>>>>> This is fixed in the latest developer beta of 10.11.4 (and I think
>>>>>>> 10.11.3), at least on the LaTeX documents I sometimes convert to
>>>>>>> MathML
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> easier reading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Amanda Lacy via Blindmath <
>>>>>>>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I use (or not use) MathML in Voiceover? I'm reading an online
>>>>>>>> textbook for class, and every time I come to a math expression I get
>>>>>>>> trapped inside it. VO+rightArrow wraps around to the beginning.
>>>>>>>> Right
>>>>>>>> now I have to stop interacting with the expression which I never
>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>> to interact with. Sometimes I end up stopping the interaction with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> entire page. That means I'm taken all the way back to the beginning
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the page! How can I stop this silliness? Also, I'm tired of all the
>>>>>>>> Braille question marks in place of real symbols. VO reads the
>>>>>>>> symbols
>>>>>>>> aloud correctly, so can't I assign something other than dots 1-4-5-6
>>>>>>>> to them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>
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