[Blindmath] [Blind math] MathML and PC with JAWS V. 17

steve.noble at louisville.edu steve.noble at louisville.edu
Mon Feb 15 17:36:02 UTC 2016


If you want to use the braille display to read the math, then you'll either need to use NVDA plus MathPlayer, or use VoiceOver, which also supports Nemeth output in the display. At this time, JAWS isn't supporting braille display for math, although they did say that they were working on it back in October. Not sure if there's any ETA on when it might be available.


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Concerning Math Player, I notice one of the limitations with MathJax-JAWS is
that Braille displays can not read them in proper Nemeth. Is this something
MathPlayer can do? Does Duxburry support importation of MathML files made by
MathJax? What format would the MathML marked-up files have to be in order to
import and translate into Duxburry into Nemeth?

Thanks,

Zac

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Two things...
1) Yes, NVDA plus MathPlayer will give you more flexibility and likely a
richer experience in reading math.
2) But, if you want to stich with JAWS, you should still be able to navigate
when reading MathJax content. See the link below for more details:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__doccenter.freedomscientific.com_doccenter_doccenter_rs25c51746a0cc_20&d=AwICAg&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=4WMck1ZVLo4tV0IVllcBNKXCSGU6lUERtx_4HD4DqmE&m=XvR86sHCls3UNmJJ2-7job6I99GAq-iJYk2N1KWA3cg&s=epSmlwgOxRE0D-zRBGLn84UZmvgyzWMSgJiEW6n5-wU&e=
14-11-05_mathml/02_MathMLWithJAWS.htm

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Would you recommend I demo NVDA with Math Player? I just looked up MathJax
webcite, and relized it doesn't allow me to navigate its equasions
chericter-by-chericter.

Is anyone else out there using IE with MathJax and JAWS?

Zac

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Beginning with JAWS 16, FS gutted support for MathPlayer and instituted
their own math speech. However, this current (16+) JAWS native math support
works only in IE, and only with HTML documents constructed using MathJax.
So, if you are trying to read HTML+MathML or XHTML+MathML documents with the
current version of JAWS, you are not going to hear the math expressions read
correctly. You'll have to switch to NVDA plus the new MathPlayer to read
those (either with Firefox or IE11 in Enterprise Mode) as JAWS does not
current support those formats...only HTML+MathJax in IE.


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Hello,



7+ years ago, my undergrad DSS office helped me set up Math Player on my
7+ XP
running JAWS V. 14, and IE 8 so they could give me my text materials in
formatted XML files. To this day I can still open the files on my XP running
V. 14 and they still work. I tried downloading the latest version of Math
Player on my Windows 7 PC running JAWS V. 16 and IE 11, and I couldn't get
it to read the equations properly. It would give me some jargon I couldn't
understand like Math type at ... <mailto:Mathtype at ...> . This happened both
when I tried opening old files Cornell had made and when I tried opening
files Mississippi State made-although MSU's files were only Word documents.



The latter PC has since been possessed by Satan, and I'm using a new PC,
Window's 7, JAWS 17, and IE 11. If there are suggestions of someone or an
agency who could help me trouble shoot the issues I'm having, it could make
the remainder of my graduate education much, much more present.





Thank you,



Zac

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