[Blindmath] request for providing some information

Thu Mar 24 13:40:43 UTC 2016

Hello Jonathan, , 

Could we talk off-list about a publicly available stock-pile of 3-D images? 

Regards,

Zac

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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Godfrey,
Jonathan via Blindmath
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:33 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] request for providing some information

Hello Sabra,

Your suggestion of using a tactile drawing board is fine if you only intend
to work with tactile graphics while you have that human to make such graphs
for you, and have that person when you want/need them.
In the 21st century there is no reason why a sighted person would ever make
a physical tactile graphic that is on par with what could be made using the
right software and then production via an embosser. That graphic is then
available for re-use by other people who possess an embosser. We need  the
stock pile of tactile graphics ready for embossing to grow faster than the
manual process can ever hope to keep up with.

I accept that completing geometry tasks that sighted students do with pencil
and paper might be best achieved by a blind student using a tactile drawing
board, but surely that is a problem with our community not having sufficient
access to the right drawing software to help us. On a side note, the use of
turtle graphics would be a great start for anyone wanting to draw simple
geometry examples. It is the logo language of the 80's.

I expect that the correct production of tactile graphics will assist many
blind people in their workplaces, and I'm pretty confident that the services
delivered by university  disability support services won't be so readily
available in the workplace. One day, an embosser and all the right graphics
files ready to emboss will be a reality.

 I'm also particularly interested in what a 3d printer can offer because
many institutions will have one when they might not have a suitable braille
embosser. Having a stockpile of files publicly available is on my list of
things to do this year.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sabra
Ewing via Blindmath
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 5:18 p.m.
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: Sabra Ewing
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] request for providing some information

Yes, there are several embossers that make graphics, but they are expensive
and bulky. It is much easier to either make or buy a tactile drawing board
and have someone draw it that way. We don't use the literary braille code
for math because it is a lot harder to produce equations with numbers and
letters and identify other symbols like square roots and angle names. There
aren't many blind mathematicians, but there are also not many sided ones.
However, lots of blind people use math in their careers in science, computer
science, and we even have some blind people breaking into the medical field.

Sabra Ewing

> On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Zach via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hello: 
> 
> I am a Masters student studying animal science. To read mathematic and 
> scientific notation I use Nemeth Braille and MathML encoded HTML files 
> with JAWS V. 17. My undergrad and graduate institutions use a 
> specialized embosser that prints and embosses tactile diagrams on the 
> same page. It is called the SpotDot embosser made by ViewPlus.
> 
> I'm happy to talk more off list. 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Zac
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Iqbal Hosen via Blindmath
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:37 AM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics 
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Iqbal Hosen <iqbalrtbd at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Blindmath] request for providing some information
> 
> Respected administrator and the members,
> 
> I would be very happy and grateful if you kindly provide me following 
> information.
> 
> 1 What braille code for math and science  is mostly used in the world now?
> 
> 2 What are advantages of nemeth code?
> 
> 3 Is there any blind mathematician in the west?if, any, please tell me 
> a few words about them.
> 
> 4 Is there any embosser which can emboss geometric shape and graphs? 
> If any, please specify.
> 
> 5 Are there any members in this group who are studying math and science in
> the higher level?    If any, please tell me something about your study.
> 
> Sorry to ask you many questions. I need the information seriously, 
> because I am from Bangladesh, a resource teacher, work in an 
> integrated education program for the visually impaired. Nobody wants 
> to believe in our country that a visually impaired can do math. So 
> they are trying to omit math for the blind.
> 
> Wishing you all the best and looking forward to hearing from you soon.
> 
> Iqbal hosen.      
> 
> 
> 
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