[Blindmath] request for providing some information

Sun Mar 27 20:44:25 UTC 2016

I also believe that the American Printing House for the Blind has a Tactile
Graphics Library.  Whether it fits what is described here is not something I
know.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
Andrews via Blindmath
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 3:04 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] request for providing some information

You might try the Diagram Center from Benetech, I think they are 
trying to collect standard graphics that could be used by many.

Dave

At 03:10 AM 3/26/2016, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>This idea is still quite embryonic so there isn't much to talk to 
>anyone on or off list yet.
>
>I want a set of images relevant to teaching statistical ideas 
>commonly depicted graphically. They are the sort of images that 
>appear in many texts but they don't have to always be the same exact 
>replicas. The shape of a distribution and stuff like that.
>
>I'll look for contributions one day, but this idea is not an 
>immediate priority for me.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Zach [mailto:zm290 at msstate.edu]
>Sent: Friday, 25 March 2016 2:41 a.m.
>To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
>Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan
>Subject: RE: [Blindmath] request for providing some information
>
>Hello Jonathan, ,
>
>Could we talk off-list about a publicly available stock-pile of 3-D images?
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Zac
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Godfrey, Jonathan via Blindmath
>Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:33 PM
>To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] request for providing some information
>
>Hello Sabra,
>
>Your suggestion of using a tactile drawing board is fine if you only 
>intend to work with tactile graphics while you have that human to 
>make such graphs for you, and have that person when you want/need them.
>In the 21st century there is no reason why a sighted person would 
>ever make a physical tactile graphic that is on par with what could 
>be made using the right software and then production via an 
>embosser. That graphic is then available for re-use by other people 
>who possess an embosser. We need  the stock pile of tactile graphics 
>ready for embossing to grow faster than the manual process can ever 
>hope to keep up with.
>
>I accept that completing geometry tasks that sighted students do 
>with pencil and paper might be best achieved by a blind student 
>using a tactile drawing board, but surely that is a problem with our 
>community not having sufficient access to the right drawing software 
>to help us. On a side note, the use of turtle graphics would be a 
>great start for anyone wanting to draw simple geometry examples. It 
>is the logo language of the 80's.
>
>I expect that the correct production of tactile graphics will assist 
>many blind people in their workplaces, and I'm pretty confident that 
>the services delivered by university  disability support services 
>won't be so readily available in the workplace. One day, an embosser 
>and all the right graphics files ready to emboss will be a reality.
>
>  I'm also particularly interested in what a 3d printer can offer 
> because many institutions will have one when they might not have a 
> suitable braille embosser. Having a stockpile of files publicly 
> available is on my list of things to do this year.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Sabra Ewing via Blindmath
>Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 5:18 p.m.
>To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>Cc: Sabra Ewing
>Subject: Re: [Blindmath] request for providing some information
>
>Yes, there are several embossers that make graphics, but they are 
>expensive and bulky. It is much easier to either make or buy a 
>tactile drawing board and have someone draw it that way. We don't 
>use the literary braille code for math because it is a lot harder to 
>produce equations with numbers and letters and identify other 
>symbols like square roots and angle names. There aren't many blind 
>mathematicians, but there are also not many sided ones.
>However, lots of blind people use math in their careers in science, 
>computer science, and we even have some blind people breaking into 
>the medical field.
>
>Sabra Ewing
>
> > On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Zach via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>wrote:
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I am a Masters student studying animal science. To read mathematic and
> > scientific notation I use Nemeth Braille and MathML encoded HTML files
> > with JAWS V. 17. My undergrad and graduate institutions use a
> > specialized embosser that prints and embosses tactile diagrams on the
> > same page. It is called the SpotDot embosser made by ViewPlus.
> >
> > I'm happy to talk more off list.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Zac
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Iqbal Hosen via Blindmath
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:37 AM
> > To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> > <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Iqbal Hosen <iqbalrtbd at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Blindmath] request for providing some information
> >
> > Respected administrator and the members,
> >
> > I would be very happy and grateful if you kindly provide me following
> > information.
> >
> > 1 What braille code for math and science  is mostly used in the world
now?
> >
> > 2 What are advantages of nemeth code?
> >
> > 3 Is there any blind mathematician in the west?if, any, please tell me
> > a few words about them.
> >
> > 4 Is there any embosser which can emboss geometric shape and graphs?
> > If any, please specify.
> >
> > 5 Are there any members in this group who are studying math and science
in
> > the higher level?    If any, please tell me something about your study.
> >
> > Sorry to ask you many questions. I need the information seriously,
> > because I am from Bangladesh, a resource teacher, work in an
> > integrated education program for the visually impaired. Nobody wants
> > to believe in our country that a visually impaired can do math. So
> > they are trying to omit math for the blind.
> >
> > Wishing you all the best and looking forward to hearing from you soon.
> >
> > Iqbal hosen.

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org

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