[Blindmath] computer code

Greg Aikens gpaikens at gmail.com
Sat Sep 24 14:50:18 UTC 2016


I haven't been following this thread completely, so my apologies if this suggestion has already been made. Look for information on the quorum programming language. There are lots of tutorials that are accessible, including and "hour of code" that is perfect for beginner students.

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Dzhovani Chemishanov via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  I'm working in a software company using python. It is completely
> usable and indentation actually is much better than getting lost in
> curly braces. After all, in nine out of ten cases, putting braces just
> shows where indentation changes.
>  Both JAWS and NVDA have extensive configurations for announcing
> indentation and they could be active only in certain editors or IDE-s.
>  Also, if someone has problems with the four spaces, it is pretty
> easy to convert the indentation to tabs and to set the tabs to a
> preferred width. In some ide-s, this is part of the standard editing
> or view options.
> Regards,
> Dzhovani
> 
>> On 9/24/16, Brandon Keith Biggs via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> This is not correct, python is completely usable for blind people, you just
>> need to set your screen reader to speak tabs and set your tab key to do
>> tabs/4 spaces.
>> Then when you are in a text editor, and there is an indent, you will hear
>> it like:
>> 
>> def hello():
>> tab print("Hello world")
>> 
>> EdSharp is the best text editor for screen readers that I know of.
>> thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Sabra Ewing via Blindmath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried it. The website is accessible, but the puzzles or not. Python is
>>> bad for someone with spatial difficulties because indentation is an actual
>>> part of the language instead of just a stylistic thing. There is a
>>> language
>>> called visual basic, which might be more of what you want. The environment
>>> does a lot of the work for you, and you only have to write some of the
>>> code. I don't know of any websites, but I think there are some apps for
>>> the
>>> iPhone that teach it. I can't remember what they are called though. If you
>>> can't find anything, another thing you could try is having code template
>>> for the student to fill-in. Maybe the website the instructor is using does
>>> have some accessible courses though. They have a link on there called
>>> student diversity, so it would be ironic if they supposedly care about
>>> that, but their stuff isn't accessible. I think you would have better luck
>>> with an Apple device though. I really wish I remembered what it was
>>> called,
>>> but there is this thing where you can use voiceover to move things around
>>> on the screen the same way they teach it on these coding websites. There
>>> is
>>> a computer science list like this one, so maybe they have more information
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Sabra Ewing
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Bill Dengler via Blindmath <
>>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I love the books available on Green Tea press <
>>> http://greenteapress.com <http://greenteapress.com/>>.
>>>> Think Python is great and teaches lots of core programming concepts. The
>>> problems are challenging, but if your student gives them their best effort
>>> and compares their solutions to the author-provided ones, they will
>>> definitely become a better programmer.
>>>> The Turtle World section is (obviously) inaccessible; if your student
>>> has no vision, they will either need to skip that section, or (ideally)
>>> have a sighted person describe what’s happening when they run their
>>> programs.
>>>> The GUI programming section is also inaccessible, since it uses the
>>> Tkinter framework.
>>>> The books are available in LaTeX and HTML. The HTML version is probably
>>> your best bet, but you could probably convert the LaTeX version to Braille
>>> if your student prefers that.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Lewicki, Maureen via Blindmath <
>>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks! Yes bookshare is great but I was hoping to find websites that
>>> are accessible that a student could use to learn some things such as are
>>> presented on code.org<http://code.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>>>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>>>> Bethlehem Central Schools
>>>>> 700 Delaware Avenue<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>>>>> Delmar, NY 12054<x-apple-data-detectors://1/0>
>>>>> http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Smith, Andrew via Blindmath <
>>> blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bookshare is indeed a fantastic resource.  Many books on many
>>>>> different languages.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/23/16, Martin, Vincent F via Blindmath <blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> <mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>> I have been using the programming books on Bookshare for years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Louis
>>>>> Maher via Blindmath
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:40 PM
>>>>> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
>>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>> Cc: Louis Maher <ljmaher at swbell.net<mailto:ljmaher at swbell.net>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] computer code
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maureen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> An excellent source is bookshare.org<http://bookshare.org>.  Search
>>> for the computer language you
>>>>> want to learn.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Louis Maher
>>>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>>>> E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net<mailto:ljmaher at swbell.net>
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Lewicki,
>>>>> Maureen via Blindmath
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 2:02 PM
>>>>> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
>>>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org<mailto:blindmath at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>> Cc: Lewicki, Maureen <MLewicki at bcsd.neric.org<mailto:
>>> MLewicki at bcsd.neric.org>>
>>>>> Subject: [Blindmath] computer code
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone direct me to resources for blind students who want to learn
>>>>> computer code please? A teacher uses Code.org<http://Code.org>. Is it
>>> accessible? Can you
>>>>> direct me to things and websites that are please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maureen Murphy Lewicki
>>>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>>>> Bethlehem Central School District
>>>>> Bethlehem High School
>>>>> 700 Delaware Ave
>>>>> Delmar, NY 12054
>>>>> http://www.bethlehemschools.org<http://www.bethlehemschools.org/>
>>>>> Keep on beginning and failing. Each time you fail, start all over
>>> again, and
>>>>> you will grow stronger until you have accomplished a purpose - not the
>>> one
>>>>> you began with perhaps, but one you'll be glad to remember. Anne
>>> Sullivan
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