# [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math

Doug and Molly Miron mndmrn at hbci.com
Sat Apr 1 14:29:46 UTC 2017

Good day Jonathan,

I have the mixtex 2.9 distribution installed.  In which folder would I find
htlatex?  Do you move the source file to the same folder before execution?
I'm using Windows 10.

Regards,
Doug Miron

-----Original Message-----
From: Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:48 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less
Visual Math

Hello Doug,

The following line is what would be put on a command line to generate html
with suitably rendered math content.
htlatex <file>.tex "xhtml,2,next,mathjax"
I put it into a batch file so that I don't have to type it out over and over
again though.
You will need to put the right filename in where the <file> is in there.
Change the 2 to 1 if you want a single file version. I want chapters split
out with suitable hyperlinks added automatically.

This is available in standard miktex2.9

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug and
Molly Miron via BlindMath
Sent: Friday, 31 March 2017 3:18 p.m.
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: Doug and Molly Miron
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less
Visual Math

Good day Nicholas,

I've been learning to deal with this issue myself since I went from
hard-of-seeing to totally useless sight about two years ago.  You are
correct that hard copy braille books take a lot of space.  There are
multi-line braille displays, see the American Printing House for the Blind
and National Federation for the Blind to see what they have to offer.  I
personally am using LaTeX in Word with MathType and MathPlayer to render
research papers into readable form.  There are allegedly converters from
LaTeX to MathML, but, so far, I haven't been able to make one work.  .pdf
files are useless for equations and figures.  Some people on this list have
been able to get the LaTeX files for books from the authors and that has
apparently been useful.  APHB has been working on a tactile graphics display
which may be available later this year.

If you are located in the U.D. you probably have a State Services for the
Blind available.  Getting them or a national source to braille your books is
probably the most reliable route.  There are other blind students, which I
am not, on this list who can tell you more about this process.  High tech is
almost there, but not quite yet.

Regards,
Doug Miron

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas J via BlindMath
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:01 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Cc: Nicholas J
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less
Visual Math

Thank you for the email about the textbooks Łukasz. Many of the braille
displays I have seen only show one line of a book or text. Are there any
that show multiple lines? If the textbook is a pdf, will the screen reader
be able to read the math notation? If the math notation is not in mathml, is
it easy to make it in mathml?

Thank you,
Nicholas

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’m considering doing a Master’s in statistics, but I do not want to
> go back to the technology that I used before. I used a cctv to view
> the board and zoomtext as a screen magnifier. All the cctvs I have
> used have still left me not able to see what was happening in most of
> my classes before and zoomtext made things slower for me because of so
> much magnification. Right now I am transitioning to using Jaws for the
> computer, but I am not sure what to do for things like the boards in
> classes, writing, and things like that. I don’t write notes because I
> am slow at it since I have to write big and I usually still can’t
> understand what I wrote because of how quickly I wrote it and how
> unreadable it is. I have been looking at doing things in braille, but
> am not sure if that is the best way to go. I thought it might take a
> lot of time also to learn it. I still think it may be helpful in some
> situations (maybe graphics which I could almost never discern
> correctly the more complicated they got). I have been reading through
> all the posts here about latex and having Jaws read them and other
> kinds of technologies, but I am not sure what kinds of technology are
> best for the transition of doing everything visually to doing things
> less visually. My vision has always stayed the same, but the field I
> am working in is statistics and it gets very small and specific for
> notation and everything.
> Main Question: What technology and how can I do math more
> electronically and less visually? I am learning Jaws, braille, and
> Kurzweil.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nicholas
>
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