[BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math

Sat Apr 1 22:31:28 UTC 2017

If you love math and want to do it, maybe one of these more complicated systems will work, but these systems are all very complicated for somebody who just wants to take one class. You can write your math with just a screen reader until you learn braille. 

Sabra Ewing

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 12:59 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Doug,
> The standard installation of miktex puts the necessary folders on the search path.
> You run the command from the command line in the folder where the tex file is.
> The version of windows and the actual location of the executable file are not important.
> Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug and Molly Miron via BlindMath
> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 2:30 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Doug and Molly Miron
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math
> 
> Good day Jonathan,
> 
> I have the mixtex 2.9 distribution installed.  In which folder would I find htlatex?  Do you move the source file to the same folder before execution? 
> I'm using Windows 10.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:48 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math
> 
> Hello Doug,
> 
> The following line is what would be put on a command line to generate html with suitably rendered math content.
>   htlatex <file>.tex "xhtml,2,next,mathjax"
> I put it into a batch file so that I don't have to type it out over and over again though.
> You will need to put the right filename in where the <file> is in there.
> Change the 2 to 1 if you want a single file version. I want chapters split out with suitable hyperlinks added automatically.
> 
> This is available in standard miktex2.9
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug and Molly Miron via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, 31 March 2017 3:18 p.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Doug and Molly Miron
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math
> 
> Good day Nicholas,
> 
> I've been learning to deal with this issue myself since I went from hard-of-seeing to totally useless sight about two years ago.  You are correct that hard copy braille books take a lot of space.  There are multi-line braille displays, see the American Printing House for the Blind and National Federation for the Blind to see what they have to offer.  I personally am using LaTeX in Word with MathType and MathPlayer to render research papers into readable form.  There are allegedly converters from LaTeX to MathML, but, so far, I haven't been able to make one work.  .pdf files are useless for equations and figures.  Some people on this list have been able to get the LaTeX files for books from the authors and that has apparently been useful.  APHB has been working on a tactile graphics display which may be available later this year.
> 
> If you are located in the U.D. you probably have a State Services for the Blind available.  Getting them or a national source to braille your books is probably the most reliable route.  There are other blind students, which I am not, on this list who can tell you more about this process.  High tech is almost there, but not quite yet.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas J via BlindMath
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Nicholas J
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Transitioning from Completely Visual Math to Less Visual Math
> 
> Thank you for the email about the textbooks Łukasz. Many of the braille displays I have seen only show one line of a book or text. Are there any that show multiple lines? If the textbook is a pdf, will the screen reader be able to read the math notation? If the math notation is not in mathml, is it easy to make it in mathml?
> 
> Thank you,
> Nicholas
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Nicholas J <314nick15 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I’m considering doing a Master’s in statistics, but I do not want to 
>> go back to the technology that I used before. I used a cctv to view 
>> the board and zoomtext as a screen magnifier. All the cctvs I have 
>> used have still left me not able to see what was happening in most of 
>> my classes before and zoomtext made things slower for me because of so 
>> much magnification. Right now I am transitioning to using Jaws for the 
>> computer, but I am not sure what to do for things like the boards in 
>> classes, writing, and things like that. I don’t write notes because I 
>> am slow at it since I have to write big and I usually still can’t 
>> understand what I wrote because of how quickly I wrote it and how 
>> unreadable it is. I have been looking at doing things in braille, but 
>> am not sure if that is the best way to go. I thought it might take a 
>> lot of time also to learn it. I still think it may be helpful in some 
>> situations (maybe graphics which I could almost never discern 
>> correctly the more complicated they got). I have been reading through 
>> all the posts here about latex and having Jaws read them and other 
>> kinds of technologies, but I am not sure what kinds of technology are 
>> best for the transition of doing everything visually to doing things 
>> less visually. My vision has always stayed the same, but the field I 
>> am working in is statistics and it gets very small and specific for 
>> notation and everything.
>> Main Question: What technology and how can I do math more 
>> electronically and less visually? I am learning Jaws, braille, and 
>> Kurzweil.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Nicholas
>> 
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