[BlindMath] Statistics and Calculus Accessibility
Mary Woodyard
marywoodyard at comcast.net
Sat Aug 12 13:36:20 UTC 2017
Preston,
I need to research this issue again as my son took Stat once and dropped it
because of the fact that he did not get media in time and the
inaccessibility ofWebAssign. Also his reader for one of the tests did not
come and he did not have the maturity at that time (he does now!) to
reschedule the test. What I would tell you is that you are off to a great
start researching it now!!!! His school (UGA) uses Pearson's My Math Plus
for their regular math classes but uses WebAssign and Stat Crunch for
Statistics. His DRC gave him a lab assistant to help with accessibility
issues. I was just pleasantly surprised when I look at WebAssign again as
they now have a page stating that if you email them at
accessibility at webassign.net, they will work with your DRC, your text
publisher and your instructor to make the class accessible. It can take 8
weeks and publishers obviously retain control of books - but they are
willing to help. That is amazing! I am including the verbage from their
webpage which can be found at this link
https://www.webassign.com/instructors/features/accessibility/ You will
need to work with your coordinator (or do it yourself) to reach out to the
math department to see what they use. Honestly I'm pretty excited about this
as my son still needs to take another Math class. He had one down - but
needs two. I was just talking with a coordinator in his DRC yesterday about
WebAssign and she was commenting on its inaccessibility. If WEBASSIGN will
truly work with students, professors and DRCs then this is a huge step in
accessibility for him. You will need to find out what your school uses and
work with your coordinator or the DRC's IT department to see what solutions
they might find from you. The first step is communication. Talking with my
son's coordinator this spring, she was most interested in trying to find a
Math solution. This will be very exciting for my son's DRC if WebAssign can
make their Math Curriculum accessible for UGA students. Find out what your
school uses and read Jonathon's article. The article helped my son find the
vocabulary to start the discussions he needs to have with his DRC to find
solutions for accessibility in his Math classes. Before you can find the
solution, you need to be able to quantify the challenge and articulate it to
those who can help you.
WebAssign can help you select or create accessible content for your class.
Please email us at accessibility at webassign.net with your request.
WebAssign will work with the instructor, the institution's disability
office, and the publisher of your preferred textbook to create a course that
can be completed with the use of assistive technology, such as the screen
readers mentioned above. Please be aware that this may take up to eight
weeks. We recommend contacting us well before the start of the course.
WebAssign will also help coordinate with the publisher to provide you with
an accessible form of the textbook. Due to copyright and ownership
restrictions, publishers remain in control of the distribution of their
material.
Mary Woodyard
Parent of a VI Student who was just on campus doing O and M for new semester
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1. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
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2. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
(Kaden Colton)
3. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
(Godfrey, Jonathan)
4. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
(Sabra Ewing)
5. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
(Sabra Ewing)
6. my personal assurance (Godfrey, Jonathan)
7. Re: calculus and statistics accomidations and access (David Moore)
8. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
(Godfrey, Jonathan)
9. Re: calculus and statistics accommodations and access
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 11:21:38 -0400
From: Preston Davis III <prestondavis72612 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
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Well if nothing else, the information is helpful in me presenting
ideas to those involved in the process; Ignoring the fact that my
professor was delighted to receive information from such a unique
perspective. I'd also like to point out I was looking for constructive
feedback on my issue, and that was really unhelpful in the grand skeme
of things. It's comments like this that make people hesitate to reach
out to others when they are unsure or need help.
Best
PDIII
On 8/10/17, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Jonathan, this person will be lucky if they can get an accessible
textbook.
> I doubt the professors will read any case studies. Hate to be harsh, but
> just saying.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As well as the blatant self-promotion of my own work in
>>
>> A. Jonathan R. Godfrey and M. Theodor Loots. Advice from blind teachers
>> on how to teach statistics to blind students. Journal of Statistics
>> Education,
>> 23(3):1?28, November 2015.
>>
>> There is a case study in the preceding issue of the same journal which
may
>> be of interest to your professors.
>>
>> HTH
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Preston
>> Davis III via BlindMath
>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:02 p.m.
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Preston Davis III
>> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in some
>> fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I have to
>> take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting accepted into
>> business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting myself into, and
>> what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have taken or teach either
>> of these subject areas to offer some practical advice, or accommodation
>> techniques for situations I?ll face in either of these areas that I
should
>> try out to ensure I have a solid grasp of the material. My community
>> college is not the best when it comes to providing accommodations, (not
>> for lack of caring though), and I don?t think we have the time or money
to
>> spend on some solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I
>> am a braille reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille
>> display. My DSS office has a picture in a flash machine but they are a
>> little less-than competent in its operation. One potential problem I
might
>> run in too is that my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for homework,
>> and quizzes online.
>> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses, in
>> the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor of both
>> courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as much
>> information as I can before then.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> PDIII
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 10:41:13 -0600
From: Kaden Colton <atmosaddict at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
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Hello,
I have taken several calculus and statistics courses as an undergraduate. I
am also a Braille user. Are you looking for techniques others have used to
make it through these classes? What kinds of ideas have you come up with to
figure out how to solve some of the problems that may arise from taking
these courses? The reason I am asking is so I can tell you exactly what I've
done to get through these classes.
Cheers
Kaden
> On 11 Aug 2017, at 09:21, Preston Davis III via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Well if nothing else, the information is helpful in me presenting
> ideas to those involved in the process; Ignoring the fact that my
> professor was delighted to receive information from such a unique
> perspective. I'd also like to point out I was looking for constructive
> feedback on my issue, and that was really unhelpful in the grand skeme
> of things. It's comments like this that make people hesitate to reach
> out to others when they are unsure or need help.
>
> Best
> PDIII
>
>> On 8/10/17, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Jonathan, this person will be lucky if they can get an accessible
textbook.
>> I doubt the professors will read any case studies. Hate to be harsh, but
>> just saying.
>>
>> Sabra Ewing
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As well as the blatant self-promotion of my own work in
>>>
>>> A. Jonathan R. Godfrey and M. Theodor Loots. Advice from blind teachers
>>> on how to teach statistics to blind students. Journal of Statistics
>>> Education,
>>> 23(3):1?28, November 2015.
>>>
>>> There is a case study in the preceding issue of the same journal which
may
>>> be of interest to your professors.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Preston
>>> Davis III via BlindMath
>>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:02 p.m.
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Preston Davis III
>>> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in some
>>> fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I have to
>>> take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting accepted into
>>> business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting myself into, and
>>> what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have taken or teach
either
>>> of these subject areas to offer some practical advice, or accommodation
>>> techniques for situations I?ll face in either of these areas that I
should
>>> try out to ensure I have a solid grasp of the material. My community
>>> college is not the best when it comes to providing accommodations, (not
>>> for lack of caring though), and I don?t think we have the time or money
to
>>> spend on some solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information:
I
>>> am a braille reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille
>>> display. My DSS office has a picture in a flash machine but they are a
>>> little less-than competent in its operation. One potential problem I
might
>>> run in too is that my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for homework,
>>> and quizzes online.
>>> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses, in
>>> the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor of both
>>> courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as much
>>> information as I can before then.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> PDIII
>>>
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:57:16 +0000
From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
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Preston,
Sabra doesn't know it and I've not ever shared it explicitly in public
before now, but her negative experiences and their ongoing airing via this
list were a major source of inspiration for the article Theodor and I wrote.
We believe that there is no reason for a student to fail in statistics
courses due to their blindness, because there are ways to address the
seemingly numerous access barriers. We felt that we needed to be the ones to
write the article because we've been through more statistics courses than
most blind people, we've made it work for us, and now we're both teaching
statistics in those same settings. Demonstrating our own personal successes
offers evidence of the value for the sighted world getting off their chuffs
and helping other blind students. We wrote an article as that is the way to
reach most academics, speaking to them as equals; we present some
challenges, but we were not explicit in challenging them by demanding they
do more. We preferred to show them how they could be helping and let their
moral compass guide them from that point onwards.
The success of a blind person in any discipline will almost certainly rely
on the successful interaction between student and teacher at a level not
necessary for the majority of students in the classroom who just so happen
to be sighted. I accept that in some disciplines this interaction is fairly
minimal, but in STEM disciplines, we need to put in the extra (often hard)
yards. Those efforts will be made all the easier if people do share their
positive experiences, but we ought not lose sight of the more sobering
reality that comes when things don't go so well.
I'm pleased you reached out to the list, as I have been pleased so many
times over the last ten years, by students, their teachers (less often I
admit) and disability support staff. In general, I think you will find list
participants are willing to help and constructive; yes, you might hear some
things that you don't want to hear or look a little daunting but the bad
news will usually come with positive suggestions, advice or strategies based
on real experience of success.
Jonathan
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From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Preston
Davis III via BlindMath
Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:22 a.m.
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: Preston Davis III
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and access
Well if nothing else, the information is helpful in me presenting ideas to
those involved in the process; Ignoring the fact that my professor was
delighted to receive information from such a unique perspective. I'd also
like to point out I was looking for constructive feedback on my issue, and
that was really unhelpful in the grand skeme of things. It's comments like
this that make people hesitate to reach out to others when they are unsure
or need help.
Best
PDIII
On 8/10/17, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Jonathan, this person will be lucky if they can get an accessible
textbook.
> I doubt the professors will read any case studies. Hate to be harsh,
> but just saying.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As well as the blatant self-promotion of my own work in
>>
>> A. Jonathan R. Godfrey and M. Theodor Loots. Advice from blind
>> teachers on how to teach statistics to blind students. Journal of
>> Statistics Education, 23(3):1?28, November 2015.
>>
>> There is a case study in the preceding issue of the same journal
>> which may be of interest to your professors.
>>
>> HTH
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Preston Davis III via BlindMath
>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:02 p.m.
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Preston Davis III
>> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in
>> some fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I
>> have to take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting
>> accepted into business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting
>> myself into, and what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have
>> taken or teach either of these subject areas to offer some practical
>> advice, or accommodation techniques for situations I?ll face in
>> either of these areas that I should try out to ensure I have a solid
>> grasp of the material. My community college is not the best when it
>> comes to providing accommodations, (not for lack of caring though),
>> and I don?t think we have the time or money to spend on some
>> solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a
>> braille reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille
>> display. My DSS office has a picture in a flash machine but they are
>> a little less-than competent in its operation. One potential problem
>> I might run in too is that my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for
homework, and quizzes online.
>> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses,
>> in the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor
>> of both courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as
>> much information as I can before then.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> PDIII
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:32:37 -0500
From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
access
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you should mention in public that you might write articles about people
without their permission. While you may technically be able to do so if you
don't mention their name, people should know that anything they do or say
could end up in One of your articles. I don't know how you could have done a
case study on me when my professor wasn't even interested in cooperating. if
you ever actually discussed doing a case study on me or writing an article
about me, I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure you didn't.
Sabra Ewing
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Preston,
>
> Sabra doesn't know it and I've not ever shared it explicitly in public
before now, but her negative experiences and their ongoing airing via this
list were a major source of inspiration for the article Theodor and I wrote.
We believe that there is no reason for a student to fail in statistics
courses due to their blindness, because there are ways to address the
seemingly numerous access barriers. We felt that we needed to be the ones to
write the article because we've been through more statistics courses than
most blind people, we've made it work for us, and now we're both teaching
statistics in those same settings. Demonstrating our own personal successes
offers evidence of the value for the sighted world getting off their chuffs
and helping other blind students. We wrote an article as that is the way to
reach most academics, speaking to them as equals; we present some
challenges, but we were not explicit in challenging them by demanding they
do more. We preferred to show them how they could be helping and let their
moral compass guide them from that point onwards.
>
> The success of a blind person in any discipline will almost certainly rely
on the successful interaction between student and teacher at a level not
necessary for the majority of students in the classroom who just so happen
to be sighted. I accept that in some disciplines this interaction is fairly
minimal, but in STEM disciplines, we need to put in the extra (often hard)
yards. Those efforts will be made all the easier if people do share their
positive experiences, but we ought not lose sight of the more sobering
reality that comes when things don't go so well.
>
> I'm pleased you reached out to the list, as I have been pleased so many
times over the last ten years, by students, their teachers (less often I
admit) and disability support staff. In general, I think you will find list
participants are willing to help and constructive; yes, you might hear some
things that you don't want to hear or look a little daunting but the bad
news will usually come with positive suggestions, advice or strategies based
on real experience of success.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Preston
Davis III via BlindMath
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:22 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Preston Davis III
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and access
>
> Well if nothing else, the information is helpful in me presenting ideas to
those involved in the process; Ignoring the fact that my professor was
delighted to receive information from such a unique perspective. I'd also
like to point out I was looking for constructive feedback on my issue, and
that was really unhelpful in the grand skeme of things. It's comments like
this that make people hesitate to reach out to others when they are unsure
or need help.
>
> Best
> PDIII
>
>> On 8/10/17, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Jonathan, this person will be lucky if they can get an accessible
textbook.
>> I doubt the professors will read any case studies. Hate to be harsh,
>> but just saying.
>>
>> Sabra Ewing
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As well as the blatant self-promotion of my own work in
>>>
>>> A. Jonathan R. Godfrey and M. Theodor Loots. Advice from blind
>>> teachers on how to teach statistics to blind students. Journal of
>>> Statistics Education, 23(3):1?28, November 2015.
>>>
>>> There is a case study in the preceding issue of the same journal
>>> which may be of interest to your professors.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Preston Davis III via BlindMath
>>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:02 p.m.
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Preston Davis III
>>> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in
>>> some fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I
>>> have to take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting
>>> accepted into business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting
>>> myself into, and what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have
>>> taken or teach either of these subject areas to offer some practical
>>> advice, or accommodation techniques for situations I?ll face in
>>> either of these areas that I should try out to ensure I have a solid
>>> grasp of the material. My community college is not the best when it
>>> comes to providing accommodations, (not for lack of caring though),
>>> and I don?t think we have the time or money to spend on some
>>> solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a
>>> braille reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille
>>> display. My DSS office has a picture in a flash machine but they are
>>> a little less-than competent in its operation. One potential problem
>>> I might run in too is that my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for
homework, and quizzes online.
>>> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses,
>>> in the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor
>>> of both courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as
>>> much information as I can before then.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> PDIII
>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:36:49 -0500
From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
access
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and for the record, I didn't actually fail statistics.
Sabra Ewing
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Preston,
>
> Sabra doesn't know it and I've not ever shared it explicitly in public
before now, but her negative experiences and their ongoing airing via this
list were a major source of inspiration for the article Theodor and I wrote.
We believe that there is no reason for a student to fail in statistics
courses due to their blindness, because there are ways to address the
seemingly numerous access barriers. We felt that we needed to be the ones to
write the article because we've been through more statistics courses than
most blind people, we've made it work for us, and now we're both teaching
statistics in those same settings. Demonstrating our own personal successes
offers evidence of the value for the sighted world getting off their chuffs
and helping other blind students. We wrote an article as that is the way to
reach most academics, speaking to them as equals; we present some
challenges, but we were not explicit in challenging them by demanding they
do more. We preferred to show them how they could be helping and let their
moral compass guide them from that point onwards.
>
> The success of a blind person in any discipline will almost certainly rely
on the successful interaction between student and teacher at a level not
necessary for the majority of students in the classroom who just so happen
to be sighted. I accept that in some disciplines this interaction is fairly
minimal, but in STEM disciplines, we need to put in the extra (often hard)
yards. Those efforts will be made all the easier if people do share their
positive experiences, but we ought not lose sight of the more sobering
reality that comes when things don't go so well.
>
> I'm pleased you reached out to the list, as I have been pleased so many
times over the last ten years, by students, their teachers (less often I
admit) and disability support staff. In general, I think you will find list
participants are willing to help and constructive; yes, you might hear some
things that you don't want to hear or look a little daunting but the bad
news will usually come with positive suggestions, advice or strategies based
on real experience of success.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Preston
Davis III via BlindMath
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 3:22 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Preston Davis III
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and access
>
> Well if nothing else, the information is helpful in me presenting ideas to
those involved in the process; Ignoring the fact that my professor was
delighted to receive information from such a unique perspective. I'd also
like to point out I was looking for constructive feedback on my issue, and
that was really unhelpful in the grand skeme of things. It's comments like
this that make people hesitate to reach out to others when they are unsure
or need help.
>
> Best
> PDIII
>
>> On 8/10/17, Sabra Ewing via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Jonathan, this person will be lucky if they can get an accessible
textbook.
>> I doubt the professors will read any case studies. Hate to be harsh,
>> but just saying.
>>
>> Sabra Ewing
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath
>>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As well as the blatant self-promotion of my own work in
>>>
>>> A. Jonathan R. Godfrey and M. Theodor Loots. Advice from blind
>>> teachers on how to teach statistics to blind students. Journal of
>>> Statistics Education, 23(3):1?28, November 2015.
>>>
>>> There is a case study in the preceding issue of the same journal
>>> which may be of interest to your professors.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Preston Davis III via BlindMath
>>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:02 p.m.
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Preston Davis III
>>> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in
>>> some fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I
>>> have to take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting
>>> accepted into business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting
>>> myself into, and what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have
>>> taken or teach either of these subject areas to offer some practical
>>> advice, or accommodation techniques for situations I?ll face in
>>> either of these areas that I should try out to ensure I have a solid
>>> grasp of the material. My community college is not the best when it
>>> comes to providing accommodations, (not for lack of caring though),
>>> and I don?t think we have the time or money to spend on some
>>> solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a
>>> braille reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille
>>> display. My DSS office has a picture in a flash machine but they are
>>> a little less-than competent in its operation. One potential problem
>>> I might run in too is that my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for
homework, and quizzes online.
>>> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses,
>>> in the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor
>>> of both courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as
>>> much information as I can before then.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> PDIII
>>>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:53:52 +0000
From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [BlindMath] my personal assurance
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Hello all.
I have never written a case study about anyone, with or without their
permission, aside from the joint writings by me and Theodor Loots which
reflect on our own experiences.
Any comment taken from the publicly available archive of this list was
attributed to the author after seeking their permission. If I couldn't track
that person down then the quote was never used. I have retained a copy of
that permission as part of my records for the relevant publication, just in
case an editor asked me for proof.
As an academic who cares deeply about his discipline (nothing unusual in
that) and as a blind person who seeks the best for all blind people, I will
continue to use the best resources I have available to make STEM a more
enjoyable and successful educational experience. I, like many others in the
STEM disciplines, feel a that we have failed our students if they do not
finish their course with a successful outcome. For me (and again) many of
my colleagues, success is not just about a grade at the end of the course
that indicates some degree of understanding of the content being examined.
We contend with a large number of students who not have a positive attitude
towards our subjects, although perhaps it is the compulsory mathematics and
statistics courses that create much of this negativity. My greatest
successes as a teacher come when a student with a negative attitude is
turned onto a subject so much that they continue taking courses in that
subject. I admit that that this is pretty rare but it has happened for me.
I am encouraged by the contributions of many list participants who show me a
different way to do something or present their positive attitude to life as
a blind person; I am also motivated to do what I can by reading the
frustrations expressed by people who can benefit from my help. That's why I
have remained on this list for more than ten years. I still see the
occasional post come from good people who have been on the list even longer.
As a consequence, I attribute this list as a major factor in my personal and
professional development
Have a great weekend everyone,
Jonathan
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:19:33 -0400
From: David Moore <jesusloves1966 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and
access
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Hi!
I am happy to tell you that I tutor Calculus and Sstatistics on line in my
on line tutoring business.
Calculus is not much more than applying algebra to find areas under curves
and so on. Must of calculus is using formulas which they give you.
I use Windows 10 on my laptop, and use the following software:
Math Type along with MS Word. Math Type combined with MS Word, allows me to
type equations and send them to my clients on line.
Also, I use LeTeX a lot.
It is an easy programming like language to type out all math in a text
editor, and then you can run it through a free LaTeX engion, to convert the
text file to equations and all that you would find in a math textbook.
That is how you could type out all of your math to submit to your
instructors on line.
Maybe you could get around using the program that they use. If you could
send your work over an on line service like Dropbox, or Google Drive, that
might satisfy them.
Also, for the text books, you could order a book like it on line that would
be in audio form. You may not be able to get the exact book that they use,
but one very similar to it. You could do the home work problems out of that
book, since it would be the same math concepts.
Book Share, or Learning Ally would have many Calculus and statistics books
that would be very similar to the book they use, and it would be read to
you.
You can right in Braille all of your steps, into the computer, if you have a
Braille display. You could read your work on the Braille display. You could
use a Braille translator to convert your Braille work into print.
The key for you to be able to send your math work is LaTeX. Once you convert
your code that you write into a text editor, you can print it out, and it
will look like you wrote it out yourself.
However, that is what Math Type does along with MS Word as well.
I would try Math Type with MS word first, and see if that meets your needs.
Please email me off list, and I will be able to give you a much better idea
about how I present my math to people that I tutor on Line.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Preston Davis III via BlindMath
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:03 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Cc: Preston Davis III
Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
Hello all,
I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in some
fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I have
to take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting accepted
into business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting myself
into, and what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have taken or
teach either of these subject areas to offer some practical advice, or
accommodation techniques for situations I?ll face in either of these
areas that I should try out to ensure I have a solid grasp of the
material. My community college is not the best when it comes to
providing accommodations, (not for lack of caring though), and I don?t
think we have the time or money to spend on some solutions I?ve heard
of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a braille reader with access
to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille display. My DSS office has a
picture in a flash machine but they are a little less-than competent
in its operation. One potential problem I might run in too is that my
college uses my math lab by Pearson, for homework, and quizzes online.
While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses,
in the others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor of
both courses on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as
much information as I can before then.
Thanks in advance
PDIII
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 23:58:21 +0000
From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
access
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Hello all,
I recommend everyone take a look at the content at
http://access2science.com/indexAccessibility.html
and at the content presented at the NFB Convention last Month in particular.
My own material from that week is available at:
https://r-resources.massey.ac.nz/tutorials/nfb2017/
In particular, I would suggest that when considering your options for
creating math content, that you look at what LEAN and markdown offer as
additions to MS Word with MathType or LaTeX.
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
Moore via BlindMath
Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 11:20 a.m.
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
Hi!
I am happy to tell you that I tutor Calculus and Sstatistics on line in my
on line tutoring business.
Calculus is not much more than applying algebra to find areas under curves
and so on. Must of calculus is using formulas which they give you.
I use Windows 10 on my laptop, and use the following software:
Math Type along with MS Word. Math Type combined with MS Word, allows me to
type equations and send them to my clients on line.
Also, I use LeTeX a lot.
It is an easy programming like language to type out all math in a text
editor, and then you can run it through a free LaTeX engion, to convert the
text file to equations and all that you would find in a math textbook.
That is how you could type out all of your math to submit to your
instructors on line.
Maybe you could get around using the program that they use. If you could
send your work over an on line service like Dropbox, or Google Drive, that
might satisfy them.
Also, for the text books, you could order a book like it on line that would
be in audio form. You may not be able to get the exact book that they use,
but one very similar to it. You could do the home work problems out of that
book, since it would be the same math concepts.
Book Share, or Learning Ally would have many Calculus and statistics books
that would be very similar to the book they use, and it would be read to
you.
You can right in Braille all of your steps, into the computer, if you have a
Braille display. You could read your work on the Braille display. You could
use a Braille translator to convert your Braille work into print.
The key for you to be able to send your math work is LaTeX. Once you convert
your code that you write into a text editor, you can print it out, and it
will look like you wrote it out yourself.
However, that is what Math Type does along with MS Word as well.
I would try Math Type with MS word first, and see if that meets your needs.
Please email me off list, and I will be able to give you a much better idea
about how I present my math to people that I tutor on Line.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Preston Davis III via BlindMath
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:03 PM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Cc: Preston Davis III
Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
Hello all,
I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in some
fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I have to
take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting accepted into
business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting myself into, and
what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have taken or teach either of
these subject areas to offer some practical advice, or accommodation
techniques for situations I?ll face in either of these areas that I should
try out to ensure I have a solid grasp of the material. My community college
is not the best when it comes to providing accommodations, (not for lack of
caring though), and I don?t think we have the time or money to spend on some
solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a braille
reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille display. My DSS
office has a picture in a flash machine but they are a little less-than
competent in its operation. One potential problem I might run in too is that
my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for homework, and quizzes online.
While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses, in the
others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor of both courses
on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as much information as I
can before then.
Thanks in advance
PDIII
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------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 14:20:42 +0530
From: Tilakprasad Joshi <tilakjoshi1990 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accommodations and
access
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Hi Friends,
Can any of you send books in accessible format which will help me to
prepare for exam like GMAT also known as GMAC exam, or any way of
getting these books in Braille?
Warm Regards,
Tilak.
On 8/12/17, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recommend everyone take a look at the content at
> http://access2science.com/indexAccessibility.html
>
> and at the content presented at the NFB Convention last Month in
> particular.
>
> My own material from that week is available at:
> https://r-resources.massey.ac.nz/tutorials/nfb2017/
>
> In particular, I would suggest that when considering your options for
> creating math content, that you look at what LEAN and markdown offer as
> additions to MS Word with MathType or LaTeX.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Moore via BlindMath
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2017 11:20 a.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: David Moore
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>
> Hi!
> I am happy to tell you that I tutor Calculus and Sstatistics on line in my
> on line tutoring business.
> Calculus is not much more than applying algebra to find areas under curves
> and so on. Must of calculus is using formulas which they give you.
> I use Windows 10 on my laptop, and use the following software:
> Math Type along with MS Word. Math Type combined with MS Word, allows me
to
> type equations and send them to my clients on line.
> Also, I use LeTeX a lot.
> It is an easy programming like language to type out all math in a text
> editor, and then you can run it through a free LaTeX engion, to convert
the
> text file to equations and all that you would find in a math textbook.
> That is how you could type out all of your math to submit to your
> instructors on line.
> Maybe you could get around using the program that they use. If you could
> send your work over an on line service like Dropbox, or Google Drive, that
> might satisfy them.
> Also, for the text books, you could order a book like it on line that
would
> be in audio form. You may not be able to get the exact book that they use,
> but one very similar to it. You could do the home work problems out of
that
> book, since it would be the same math concepts.
> Book Share, or Learning Ally would have many Calculus and statistics books
> that would be very similar to the book they use, and it would be read to
> you.
> You can right in Braille all of your steps, into the computer, if you have
a
> Braille display. You could read your work on the Braille display. You
could
> use a Braille translator to convert your Braille work into print.
> The key for you to be able to send your math work is LaTeX. Once you
convert
> your code that you write into a text editor, you can print it out, and it
> will look like you wrote it out yourself.
> However, that is what Math Type does along with MS Word as well.
> I would try Math Type with MS word first, and see if that meets your
needs.
> Please email me off list, and I will be able to give you a much better
idea
> about how I present my math to people that I tutor on Line.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Preston Davis III via BlindMath
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:03 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Preston Davis III
> Subject: [BlindMath] calculus and statistics accomidations and access
>
> Hello all,
>
> I?m sure what I?m about to ask has been asked somewhere before in some
> fashion, but I couldn?t figure out the search feature. Anyway, I have to
> take calculus and statistics as a requirement for getting accepted into
> business school. I really have no idea what I?m getting myself into, and
> what I?m looking for is, best case, people who have taken or teach either
of
> these subject areas to offer some practical advice, or accommodation
> techniques for situations I?ll face in either of these areas that I should
> try out to ensure I have a solid grasp of the material. My community
college
> is not the best when it comes to providing accommodations, (not for lack
of
> caring though), and I don?t think we have the time or money to spend on
some
> solutions I?ve heard of. Here?s some helpful information: I am a braille
> reader with access to a windows pc, Jaws, and a braille display. My DSS
> office has a picture in a flash machine but they are a little less-than
> competent in its operation. One potential problem I might run in too is
that
> my college uses my math lab by Pearson, for homework, and quizzes online.
> While I?m not sure if this is the case for these particular courses, in
the
> others I?ve taken it is. I have a meeting with the professor of both
courses
> on the seventeenth of august, so I?m trying to get as much information as
I
> can before then.
>
> Thanks in advance
> PDIII
>
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