[Blindmath] Accessible Matlab

Wed Feb 1 15:06:52 UTC 2017

        Hi Santi,

I  only found out about thismailing list a week ago.  Unfortunately it's 
unknown to many accessibility people at the various companies and even MN 
State  Services for the Blind.  What version of Mac are you using?  Is 
access through a real keyboard rather than a touch screen?  I suspected that 
an Apple platform with VoiceOver might work, but neither the Apple people 
nor the Matlab people could tell me.  I think I will try Octave since I've 
already invested in a high-end HP Windows 10 system.  I'll keep your route 
in mind though.  Thanks.

Regards to all,
Doug Miron

-----Original Message----- 
From: Santiago Velasquez via Blindmath
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 2:28 AM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Cc: Santiago Velasquez
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Accessible Matlab

Hi Doug, I hope all is well.

I can tell you from experience that Matlab is accessible. However, I can 
only speak about its accessibility when used on a mac with Voice over. With 
regards to its accessibility on Windows, and with the many screen readers 
that exist, I don’t know.

It goes without saying that not 100% of Matlab is accessible, but I would 
say that around 90% is. Either way, most of what you mentioned that you will 
be doing can be performed using Scripts, functions and the built in command 
line. Most of the toolboxes that I have used are accessible. However, if you’re 
planning to use a toolbox that requires some form of graphical input, you 
might want to contact the developers of that particular toolbox to see if 
those functions can be achieved using text commands. As Jonathan stated 
there are other programs, but if you are planning to use Mathematica’s 
Graphical User Interface, I can tell you right now, that at least on the 
mac, it is not accessible at all. Last, you can always use the 
aforementioned programs in Batch mode, and that tends to be more accessible 
depending on the configuration of the software.

I hope I am able to answer some of your questions, and I will be happy to 
answer some more.
Kind regards
Santi

> On 1 Feb 2017, at 11:57 AM, Godfrey, Jonathan via Blindmath 
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Start with Octave then. It uses the same syntax, but may not have every 
> function offered by Matlab. It won't take long to find out though.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug 
> and Molly Miron via Blindmath
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2017 2:38 p.m.
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Doug and Molly Miron
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Accessible Matlab
>
>     Hi,
>
> I'm doing numerical electromagnetics.   No matter what the method, one 
> fills
> a large, dense matrix and a  source vector to solve the problem.  As you 
> probably know, Matlab stands for matrix laboratory, so it is suited to the 
> nature of the problems.  In '84, I had a summer job at IBM Rochester, MN 
> at which I learned APL to work on their code for disk drive read-back 
> error simulation.  Matlab is the diminished stepchild of APL, but it has 
> the advantage of using only ASCII characters.  Anyway, I read of Octave 
> somewhere and sent their people an e-mail inquiring about accessibility, 
> but never heard back.  If you have a suggestion about which to use, I'd be 
> grateful.
>
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Godfrey, Jonathan via Blindmath
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:09 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> Cc: Godfrey, Jonathan
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Accessible Matlab
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Offering advice on what alternatives exist without knowing what you are 
> using Matlab for is a little difficult.
>
> You could use Octave, Maxima or R to do all the functions available on a 
> standard scientific calculator in an interactive mode of working.
>
> You could use Mathematica, R, Octave,  or Maxima if you need to do higher 
> level work; all of these programs can be used in batch mode. Your choice 
> will almost certainly depend on the type of higher level work you are 
> doing as the coverage and user-friendliness will differ among these 
> options.
> See https://r-resources.massey.ac.nz/batchprocessing/
> For instructions on batch processing with these options.
>
> Matlab did have a command line to allow batch processing of script files, 
> but I've not had a machine with Matlab on it for some time to test the 
> current settings needed. I would have thought that you could investigate 
> this with a colleague running a more recent version of Matlab. I'd like to 
> know if you do manage this experiment (successfully or not) so I can 
> update the above web resource.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug 
> and Molly Miron via Blindmath
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2017 8:51 a.m.
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Doug and Molly Miron
> Subject: [Blindmath] Accessible Matlab
>
> Good day all,
>
> Alternatively, does anyone know of a Matlab-like scientific computing 
> package that is audio accessible?  I’ve tried SciLab and FreeMath without 
> success.  I’m presently using an old version of Matlab that is audio 
> accessible, but it’s a 32-bit version that I’m running on a WinXP box, and 
> the 4GB RAM is barely adequate.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Miron
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