[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 141, Issue 15

tolga karatas tolga.karatas2014 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 24 12:13:42 UTC 2018


hi;


for jaws;

you could try to see if the ELOQ;.SBL; file from freedom scientific
would read the equations;

you can download it from  the freedom scientific website;

try this and see how it goes; if you need more info;

please contact me off list; and I will be more than happy to assist;

Regards;

Tolga;



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>    1. Preparing an Online Calculus Class (dslab)
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>    3. Re: Preparing an Online Calculus Class (Brandon Keith Biggs)
>    4. Re: Preparing an Online Calculus Class (Noble,Stephen L.)
>    5. Re: Preparing an Online Calculus Class (Brandon Keith Biggs)
>    6. Re: Preparing an Online Calculus Class (Sabra Ewing)
>    7. Re: Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber (Godfrey, Jonathan)
>    8. Re: Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber (Mathieu Barbe)
>    9. Re: Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber (The Euclidian)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:29:59 +0000
> From: dslab <dslab at cpcc.edu>
> To: "blindmath at nfbnet.org" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
> Message-ID: <2414fa3e53a64de2afbd9e48d29540e6 at mbx9.cpcc.edu>
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> Hello Everyone,
> I've got a teacher trying to prepare their online Calculus class for
> Visually Impaired or blind students.
> I reviewed one of her many assignments for accessibility but had no luck.
> Here is what I tried with both Word Math Editor and Math Type.
>
> *         Windows Narrator
>
> *         Microsoft Speak
>
> *         Zoomtext
>
> *         JAWS
>
> *         Read and Write (just as an experiment)
> None of the readers read the equations from the Words Math Editor correctly.
> JAWS and Narrator read the alternative text I entered with images produced
> by Math Type when starting a new line, but they would not read when I
> selected the specific images. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get
> the software to read appropriately?
> The students would be facing a complex combination of numbers letters and
> symbols that need to read: "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the
> negative two thirds equals one over three times the third root of ex
> squared."
>
> Thanks,
> Alysia Leak, MA, LMFTA
> Assistive Technology Specialists, Disability Services
> Central Campus, Terrell 201
> PO Box 35009 Charlotte, NC  28235
> 704.330.2722 ext 3462
> www.cpcc.edu<http://www.cpcc.edu/>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:56:27 +0000
> From: "Fahlberg, Tim R.  (TCH)" <Tim.Fahlberg at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
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> Hi Alysia,
>
> I don't have a simple answer to your question but I do know that putting
> text and MathML  in an iBook makes it so that the book can be read aloud
> with VoiceOver and accessed using a refreshable braille device. What's
> needed now is an effort to convert math books to MathML & iBook form. Math
> iBooks could then be heard on an iPhone using VoiceOver while being
> displayed on a refreshable braille device for the Nemeth. And instead of a
> single line refreshable braille unit that's $2,000 - $5000 hopefully soon
> this year it'll be possible to display the ebook on a multiline braille
> ebook reader - the upcoming Canute from Bristol Braille (about $1,100 for a
> 9 x 40 = 360 character display - see http://bristolbraille.co.uk/canute.htm
> ).
>
> Tim Fahlberg
> Math Teacher
> WSBVI - Wisconsin School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1700 W. State St.
> Janesville, WI 53546
> 1-608-758-6100 x 5360
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of dslab via
> BlindMath
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 2:30 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: dslab <dslab at cpcc.edu>
> Subject: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I've got a teacher trying to prepare their online Calculus class for
> Visually Impaired or blind students.
> I reviewed one of her many assignments for accessibility but had no luck.
> Here is what I tried with both Word Math Editor and Math Type.
>
> *         Windows Narrator
>
> *         Microsoft Speak
>
> *         Zoomtext
>
> *         JAWS
>
> *         Read and Write (just as an experiment)
> None of the readers read the equations from the Words Math Editor correctly.
> JAWS and Narrator read the alternative text I entered with images produced
> by Math Type when starting a new line, but they would not read when I
> selected the specific images. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get
> the software to read appropriately?
> The students would be facing a complex combination of numbers letters and
> symbols that need to read: "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the
> negative two thirds equals one over three times the third root of ex
> squared."
>
> Thanks,
> Alysia Leak, MA, LMFTA
> Assistive Technology Specialists, Disability Services Central Campus,
> Terrell 201 PO Box 35009 Charlotte, NC  28235
> 704.330.2722 ext 3462
> www.cpcc.edu<http://www.cpcc.edu/>
> [cid:image001.png at 01CCCA1C.75B56920]
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 12:59:23 -0700
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
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> Hello,
> There are two options you should consider if it is online:
> 1. Give the student readable LaTeX files.
> 2. Turn the LaTeX files into mathml with something like pandoc so the
> student can read them in the web browser.
> I think Mathlab is accessible in some way, but I've never used it before.
> Diagrams and graphs need to be raised and put into Braille.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:29 PM, dslab via BlindMath
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I've got a teacher trying to prepare their online Calculus class for
>> Visually Impaired or blind students.
>> I reviewed one of her many assignments for accessibility but had no luck.
>> Here is what I tried with both Word Math Editor and Math Type.
>>
>> *         Windows Narrator
>>
>> *         Microsoft Speak
>>
>> *         Zoomtext
>>
>> *         JAWS
>>
>> *         Read and Write (just as an experiment)
>> None of the readers read the equations from the Words Math Editor
>> correctly. JAWS and Narrator read the alternative text I entered with
>> images produced by Math Type when starting a new line, but they would not
>> read when I selected the specific images. Does anyone have any ideas
>> about
>> how to get the software to read appropriately?
>> The students would be facing a complex combination of numbers letters and
>> symbols that need to read: "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the
>> negative two thirds equals one over three times the third root of ex
>> squared."
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alysia Leak, MA, LMFTA
>> Assistive Technology Specialists, Disability Services
>> Central Campus, Terrell 201
>> PO Box 35009 Charlotte, NC  28235
>> 704.330.2722 ext 3462
>> www.cpcc.edu<http://www.cpcc.edu/>
>> [cid:image001.png at 01CCCA1C.75B56920]
>> We value your feedback. How is our service<http://surveys.cpcc.
>> edu/47408/47408.asp> at CPCC?
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:30:35 +0000
> From: "Noble,Stephen L." <steve.noble at louisville.edu>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
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>
> If the equations were entered with Word's native math editor, then you'll
> need to run the "Convert Equations" command in the MathType ribbon. After
> that, the expressions should be accessible using NVDA if you have both
> MathType and MathPlayer installed on your PC. Once you navigate to an
> expression, then you will use NVDA+Alt+m to focus on the expression, and
> then use the down/up arrow keys to zoom in/out of an expression, and the
> left/right arrow keys to walk though the expression bit by bit. To get out
> of the expression focus, use the escape key. Then continue reading until you
> arrive at another expression you want to explore and do the same routine.
>
>
> So far, only NVDA provides direct access to expressions in Word for blind
> users. The Central Access Reader also works directly in Word, but isn't
> suitable for a blind student as it doesn't work with a screen reader. Plus,
> it doesn't provide the same ability to zoom into an expression. Freedom
> Scientific was working on integrating support into JAWS, but they aren't
> there yet.
>
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
> --Steve Noble
> steve.noble at louisville.edu
> 502-969-3088
> http://louisville.academia.edu/SteveNoble<https://exchange.louisville.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=CdhMttRtdkSZAY1GqZCRu5k28cp7bNAIPUU6wKc1De8y-_GlninyxASwkrwRp4PfcJ9J6C2iqrk.&URL=http%3a%2f%2flouisville.academia.edu%2fSteveNoble>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of dslab via
> BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:29 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: dslab
> Subject: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I've got a teacher trying to prepare their online Calculus class for
> Visually Impaired or blind students.
> I reviewed one of her many assignments for accessibility but had no luck.
> Here is what I tried with both Word Math Editor and Math Type.
>
> *         Windows Narrator
>
> *         Microsoft Speak
>
> *         Zoomtext
>
> *         JAWS
>
> *         Read and Write (just as an experiment)
> None of the readers read the equations from the Words Math Editor correctly.
> JAWS and Narrator read the alternative text I entered with images produced
> by Math Type when starting a new line, but they would not read when I
> selected the specific images. Does anyone have any ideas about how to get
> the software to read appropriately?
> The students would be facing a complex combination of numbers letters and
> symbols that need to read: "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the
> negative two thirds equals one over three times the third root of ex
> squared."
>
> Thanks,
> Alysia Leak, MA, LMFTA
> Assistive Technology Specialists, Disability Services
> Central Campus, Terrell 201
> PO Box 35009 Charlotte, NC  28235
> 704.330.2722 ext 3462
> www.cpcc.edu<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cpcc.edu_&d=DwIFAg&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=67olWPWhVEsI50vpRdydglG2RHA1T81UHrTuRDeUqW4&m=MotmLt1HU6ItnrQm-fzNNODSAWpIcV6TVFkUc_NkYfA&s=Shr-fGOlmtUAaYAh5YSkPoS2b6ve7OvYc8rOLijDZvk&e=>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:30:58 -0700
> From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
> IBooks uses epub3 format which is like the super accessible, very advanced
> PDF format that most books use.
> Basically there are HTML files in the epub format that show mathML.
> You can convert LaTeX to both epub and HTML in pandoc. This allows the user
> to read the math in Braille or using their screen reader.
> Images still need to be made tactile with Braille labels though with either
> a graphics embosser like the View Plus Max or a PIAF machine.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Fahlberg, Tim R. (TCH) via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alysia,
>>
>> I don't have a simple answer to your question but I do know that putting
>> text and MathML  in an iBook makes it so that the book can be read aloud
>> with VoiceOver and accessed using a refreshable braille device. What's
>> needed now is an effort to convert math books to MathML & iBook form.
>> Math
>> iBooks could then be heard on an iPhone using VoiceOver while being
>> displayed on a refreshable braille device for the Nemeth. And instead of
>> a
>> single line refreshable braille unit that's $2,000 - $5000 hopefully soon
>> this year it'll be possible to display the ebook on a multiline braille
>> ebook reader - the upcoming Canute from Bristol Braille (about $1,100 for
>> a
>> 9 x 40 = 360 character display - see http://bristolbraille.co.uk/
>> canute.htm ).
>>
>> Tim Fahlberg
>> Math Teacher
>> WSBVI - Wisconsin School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
>> 1700 W. State St.
>> Janesville, WI 53546
>> 1-608-758-6100 x 5360
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of dslab via
>> BlindMath
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 2:30 PM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: dslab <dslab at cpcc.edu>
>> Subject: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>> I've got a teacher trying to prepare their online Calculus class for
>> Visually Impaired or blind students.
>> I reviewed one of her many assignments for accessibility but had no luck.
>> Here is what I tried with both Word Math Editor and Math Type.
>>
>> *         Windows Narrator
>>
>> *         Microsoft Speak
>>
>> *         Zoomtext
>>
>> *         JAWS
>>
>> *         Read and Write (just as an experiment)
>> None of the readers read the equations from the Words Math Editor
>> correctly. JAWS and Narrator read the alternative text I entered with
>> images produced by Math Type when starting a new line, but they would not
>> read when I selected the specific images. Does anyone have any ideas
>> about
>> how to get the software to read appropriately?
>> The students would be facing a complex combination of numbers letters and
>> symbols that need to read: "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the
>> negative two thirds equals one over three times the third root of ex
>> squared."
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alysia Leak, MA, LMFTA
>> Assistive Technology Specialists, Disability Services Central Campus,
>> Terrell 201 PO Box 35009 Charlotte, NC  28235
>> 704.330.2722 ext 3462
>> www.cpcc.edu<http://www.cpcc.edu/>
>> [cid:image001.png at 01CCCA1C.75B56920]
>> We value your feedback. How is our service<http://surveys.cpcc.
>> edu/47408/47408.asp> at CPCC?
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> This e-mail, including any attachments, is intended only for the
>> addressee's use and may contain confidential and proprietary information.
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>> retention, dissemination, reproduction, or use of the information
>> contained
>> in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail
>> by
>> error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Thank you for
>> your cooperation.
>>
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>> blindmath-gems-home>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:44:01 -0600
> From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Preparing an Online Calculus Class
> Message-ID: <280D617D-EC51-4A32-870D-234AEEEBAA96 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> I don't know what to tell you, but here's how I always wrote my math.
>
> F'(x) = [(1/3)x]^-2/3 = 1/3rt(x) ^2
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:29 PM, dslab via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> "F prime of ex equals one third ex to the negative two thirds equals one
>> over three times the third root of ex squared."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 01:30:53 +0000
> From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
> To: "maths at ishe.chinyoka.com" <maths at ishe.chinyoka.com>, "Blind Math
> 	list for	those interested in mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
> Message-ID:
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> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello,
>
> You can specify the tasks to process a tex file within texnicCenter.
>
> Look at the second to bottom item in the Build menu. "Define output
> profiles..."
>
> To get the tasks done, you would need to know the command lines needed to
> process the tex file. Sorry, I don't know what they are for the bib tool you
> want to use.
>
> HTH
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of The Euclidian
> via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, 20 April 2018 4:46 a.m.
> To: BlindMath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: The Euclidian <maths at ishe.chinyoka.com>
> Subject: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> I hope my issue is not out of topic here. I would like your help in two
> areas. I use NVDA as my screen-reader, and for working with LaTeX, I use
> Texniccenter and Winedt. I like TeXNiccenter as its text control window is
> accessible with NVDA than Winedt. I purchased Winedt as It was maintained
> after 2013.
>
>
> My problem is with Biber and biblatex. While I can produce documents with
> Texniccenter, I do not know how I can configure it to work with biber
> instead of BibTex. I would like to use Biber for it can handle many
> bibliography databases more than BibTex and biber works well with the
> biblatex package.
>
>
> With Winedt, NVDA cannot say the text under selection, such that I end up
> having hard time trying to edit my documents. So I often write my documents
> in TeXNiccenter and run them in Winedt.
>
>
> So my question is: 1. Which accessible LaTeX editor do your recommend which
> works well with biber? and
>
> 2. How can I configure TeXNiccenter to use Biber instead of Bibltex?
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
>
> Ishe
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:03:10 +0200
> From: Mathieu Barbe <mat.barbe at gmail.com>
> To: Robin Williams via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
> Message-ID: <81e27fc5-1d2c-ef20-9837-b37042e1a582 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Robin,
> I very interested about Emacs port on windows.
> Where I could find information and links to test it?
> Thanks.
> ++ Math
>
>
>
> Le 20/04/2018 ? 12:40, Robin Williams via BlindMath a ?crit?:
>> I second Jason's Emacs recommendation, not just for LaTeX, but for any
>> scientific programming (R, C++, etc). I use the Windows port of Emacs with
>> JAWS, which is largely accessible. I gave up on Winedt some time ago as
>> it's accessibility was deteriorating, and it sounds as though that hasn't
>> changed.
>>
>> HTH
>> Robin
>>
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>> Jason J via BlindMath
>> Sent: 19 April 2018 17:59
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>> Cc: White, Jason J <jjwhite at ets.org>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
>>
>> I can't answer your second question. However, you can always run biber and
>> LaTeX from the command line.
>>
>> I generally use Emacs for writing LaTeX. When I last tried it, TeXWorks
>> (supplied as part of the MIKTeX distribution for Microsoft Windows) seemed
>> to be accessible with a screen reader. You didn't mention having access to
>> a Mac, so I suppose TeXShop for Mac OS wouldn't help you - again, it has
>> been recommended as an accessible editor, and it worked with the VoiceOver
>> screen reader when I last tested it on my Mac.
>>
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>>> Euclidian via BlindMath
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>>> Cc: The Euclidian <maths at ishe.chinyoka.com>
>>> Subject: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope my issue is not out of topic here. I would like your help in
>>> two areas. I use NVDA as my screen-reader, and for working with LaTeX,
>>> I use Texniccenter and Winedt. I like TeXNiccenter as its text control
>>> window is accessible with NVDA than Winedt. I purchased Winedt as It was
>>> maintained after 2013.
>>>
>>>
>>> My problem is with Biber and biblatex. While I can produce documents
>>> with Texniccenter, I do not know how I can configure it to work with
>>> biber instead of BibTex. I would like to use Biber for it can handle
>>> many bibliography databases more than BibTex and biber works well with
>>> the biblatex package.
>>>
>>>
>>> With Winedt, NVDA cannot say the text under selection, such that I end
>>> up having hard time trying to edit my documents. So I often write my
>>> documents in TeXNiccenter and run them in Winedt.
>>>
>>>
>>> So my question is: 1. Which accessible LaTeX editor do your recommend
>>> which works well with biber? and
>>>
>>> 2. How can I configure TeXNiccenter to use Biber instead of Bibltex?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ishe
>>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:09:00 +0000
> From: The Euclidian <maths at ishe.chinyoka.com>
> To: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>,	Blind Math list
> 	for those interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
>
> Thanks for the info. However, the problem I am having is not finding the
> Define Profile. My problem is after creating the profile, I don't seem
> to get the button to edit the profile. Seems that the buttons here are
> not clearly labelled and I can only create a profile and that's it.
>
>
> However, on another note, I am using Arara that Java automation tool for
> LaTeX production. I just tell Arara to use biber and that's that. Now I
> do this in my source code as a comment at the beginning of the document.
> My problem now is adding the Arara button to the profiles in
> TeXNiccenter. So currently I am using the TeXWorks editor that comes
> with MiKTeX and I've made it the default typesetting tool in TeXWorks,
> so I just click on the Arara button and it runs everything. Still I
> would be interested to find out how someone using a screen-reader,
> particularly NVDA, can create a profile in TeXNicCenter. I've given up
> so far.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Godfrey, Jonathan:
>> Hello,
>>
>> You can specify the tasks to process a tex file within texnicCenter.
>>
>> Look at the second to bottom item in the Build menu. "Define output
>> profiles..."
>>
>> To get the tasks done, you would need to know the command lines needed to
>> process the tex file. Sorry, I don't know what they are for the bib tool
>> you want to use.
>>
>> HTH
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath <blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of The Euclidian
>> via BlindMath
>> Sent: Friday, 20 April 2018 4:46 a.m.
>> To: BlindMath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: The Euclidian <maths at ishe.chinyoka.com>
>> Subject: [BlindMath] Accessible LaTeX Editor with Biber
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>
>> I hope my issue is not out of topic here. I would like your help in two
>> areas. I use NVDA as my screen-reader, and for working with LaTeX, I use
>> Texniccenter and Winedt. I like TeXNiccenter as its text control window is
>> accessible with NVDA than Winedt. I purchased Winedt as It was maintained
>> after 2013.
>>
>>
>> My problem is with Biber and biblatex. While I can produce documents with
>> Texniccenter, I do not know how I can configure it to work with biber
>> instead of BibTex. I would like to use Biber for it can handle many
>> bibliography databases more than BibTex and biber works well with the
>> biblatex package.
>>
>>
>> With Winedt, NVDA cannot say the text under selection, such that I end up
>> having hard time trying to edit my documents. So I often write my
>> documents in TeXNiccenter and run them in Winedt.
>>
>>
>> So my question is: 1. Which accessible LaTeX editor do your recommend
>> which works well with biber? and
>>
>> 2. How can I configure TeXNiccenter to use Biber instead of Bibltex?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ishe
>>
>>
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