[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 138, Issue 17

Tue Jan 30 14:40:10 UTC 2018

all;

I don't how well texstudio will work with voice over or jaws;

but I can also suggest winshell;  this is much more friendly in terms
of assistive technology use;

if you need more info;

please contact me off list and I can discuss further;


On 30/01/2018, blindmath-request at nfbnet.org
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>    1. Re: Latex? (John G Heim)
>    2. Re: Latex? (John G Heim)
>    3. Re: Latex? (Mike Gorse)
>    4. Re: Latex? (Derek Scott Riemer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:08:16 -0600
> From: John G Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
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> Right. I used to teach a mini-course on latex at the University Of
> Wisconsin. But the department decided it was not worth while because
> most students already know it or they pick it up on their own. One
> larger point to be learned here though: Students are expected to do a
> lot of self-study these days. You're just expected to do things that
> might have been considered extra credit years ago. College always was
> different from high school in that way but I think the difference is
> even greater today.
>
> If I was you I wouldn't b too worried about teaching myself latex
> though. It's way more tedious than difficult. If you work hard enough at
> it, you'll be able to get latex. To get a climatology degree, you'll
> have to learn things way more difficult to comprehend than latex.
>
> On 01/27/2018 04:41 PM, Kendra Schaber via BlindMath wrote:
>> Hi all!
>>   I?m getting ready to go into a climatology degree. As part of that, I
>> have to take some math courses and learn Latex which as far as I know,
>> isn?t tought in computer programing classes at college. Since I no nothing
>> about computer science and have been out of the math loop for a while,
>> what are the best math programs for a Mack computer? Where is the best
>> place to get my hands on the most accessable tutorial for learning Latex?
>> I have already talked to the computer science list and they recamended
>> that I also ask you guys because even though Latex is tech but I also
>> heard that it involves math.
>>
>>
>>
>> Blessed be!!!
>> Kendra Schaber
>> National Federation of the Blind,
>> Capitol Chapter,
>> Salem, Oregon.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:15:00 -0600
> From: John G Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu, Blind Math list for those interested in
> 	mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
> Message-ID: <5ce69a01-e40e-5b27-7606-a33016382fde at math.wisc.edu>
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> Our Mac support guy here at the Math Department at the University Of
> Wisconsin says he puts 3 different latex tools on the department's Macs
> all of which are free:
>
> 1. Texshop
> 2. Texstudio
> 3. Texmaker
>
> Those are listed in order of his perception of how popular they are. I
> personally am a linux user and I simply use a text editor, gedit, with
> the latex plugin.
> On 01/27/2018 07:29 PM, Derek Scott Riemer via BlindMath wrote:
>> I am not sure about how to typeset latex on mac, but you can probably use
>> bibtex or myktex.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM, White, Jason J via BlindMath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Try the following as a first tutorial:
>>> http://latex.silmaril.ie/formattinginformation/index.html
>>>
>>> If you subscribe to Bookshare, then I would recommend More Math into
>>> LaTeX
>>> by George Gr?tzer.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Kendra
>>> Schaber via BlindMath
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:41 PM
>>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Kendra Schaber <redwing731 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [BlindMath] Latex?
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>   I?m getting ready to go into a climatology degree. As part of that, I
>>> have to take some math courses and learn Latex which as far as I know,
>>> isn?t tought in computer programing classes at college. Since I no
>>> nothing
>>> about computer science and have been out of the math loop for a while,
>>> what
>>> are the best math programs for a Mack computer? Where is the best place
>>> to
>>> get my hands on the most accessable tutorial for learning Latex? I have
>>> already talked to the computer science list and they recamended that I
>>> also
>>> ask you guys because even though Latex is tech but I also heard that it
>>> involves math.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blessed be!!!
>>> Kendra Schaber
>>> National Federation of the Blind,
>>> Capitol Chapter,
>>> Salem, Oregon.
>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown.
>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:39:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: Mike Gorse <mike at straddlethebox.org>
> To: John G Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu>, 	Blind Math list for those
> 	interested in mathematics <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
> Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1801291128110.8128 at straddlethebox.org>
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>
> Fwiw, I don't think that I ever really spent a lot of time on learning
> LaTex Specifically. My first exposure to it had to do with taking math
> classes and needing a way to read quizzes and tests. In a lot of cases, my
> professors were using LaTeX to write the tests that they printed out and
> handed out to their students, so, rather than giving me a printed test,
> they could give me a disk containing their original LaTeX file so that I
> could read it with a screen reader. It probably wasn't the most efficient
> way possible to read math--having Nemeth may have been better--but it
> allowed me to read the math. I eventually started to use LaTeX to write
> papers (partly because I mostly wasn't using Windows and didn't want to
> use Word, but it tends to be used in academic circles anyhow), and I would
> learn how to do things as needed.
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, John G Heim via BlindMath wrote:
>
>> Right. I used to teach a mini-course on latex at the University Of
>> Wisconsin. But the department decided it was not worth while because
>> most students already know it or they pick it up on their own. One
>> larger point to be learned here though: Students are expected to do a
>> lot of self-study these days. You're just expected to do things that
>> might have been considered extra credit years ago. College always was
>> different from high school in that way but I think the difference is
>> even greater today.
>>
>> If I was you I wouldn't b too worried about teaching myself latex
>> though. It's way more tedious than difficult. If you work hard enough at
>> it, you'll be able to get latex. To get a climatology degree, you'll
>> have to learn things way more difficult to comprehend than latex.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:48:34 -0700
> From: Derek Scott Riemer <Derek.Riemer at colorado.edu>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> 	<blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Latex?
> Message-ID:
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> make it habit to ask your professors to make sure they remove any solutions
> or answers from the la tex before sending it to you. I have had this happen
> on multiple occasions, including once, horrifyingly, a test. Fortunately,
> the professor was trusting, and didn't try to accuse me of cheating,
> because I was able to verify with a proctor that I literally walked away
> from the computer when I saw \begin{answer} on the test, to make it clear
> that I was not cheating. Just something you should be cautious of.
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Mike Gorse via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Fwiw, I don't think that I ever really spent a lot of time on learning
>> LaTex Specifically. My first exposure to it had to do with taking math
>> classes and needing a way to read quizzes and tests. In a lot of cases,
>> my
>> professors were using LaTeX to write the tests that they printed out and
>> handed out to their students, so, rather than giving me a printed test,
>> they could give me a disk containing their original LaTeX file so that I
>> could read it with a screen reader. It probably wasn't the most efficient
>> way possible to read math--having Nemeth may have been better--but it
>> allowed me to read the math. I eventually started to use LaTeX to write
>> papers (partly because I mostly wasn't using Windows and didn't want to
>> use
>> Word, but it tends to be used in academic circles anyhow), and I would
>> learn how to do things as needed.
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, John G Heim via BlindMath wrote:
>>
>> Right. I used to teach a mini-course on latex at the University Of
>>> Wisconsin. But the department decided it was not worth while because
>>> most
>>> students already know it or they pick it up on their own. One larger
>>> point
>>> to be learned here though: Students are expected to do a lot of
>>> self-study
>>> these days. You're just expected to do things that might have been
>>> considered extra credit years ago. College always was different from
>>> high
>>> school in that way but I think the difference is even greater today.
>>>
>>> If I was you I wouldn't b too worried about teaching myself latex
>>> though.
>>> It's way more tedious than difficult. If you work hard enough at it,
>>> you'll
>>> be able to get latex. To get a climatology degree, you'll have to learn
>>> things way more difficult to comprehend than latex.
>>>
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